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'Yats is the guy'

Ukrainian neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok with (left) Victoria Nuland (center), Yarsenyi Yatsenyuk, and (right) Vitali Klitschko (rear).

During the Maidan coup, the notorious "F the EU" conversation between State Dept employees Victoria Nuland and Amb Pyatt when they were deciding on which puppet to make Prime Minister, Nuland said, "Yats is the guy. He's got the governing experience bla bla bla". Well, "Yats", or Arseniy Yatsenyuk apparently now has had an epiphany about Nazism in Ukraine. Is he ambling for a job in a post-Zelensky Ukraine? RobSGive Peace a chance 20:10, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

France looks like Bakhmut

[3][4][5][6] Is this the end result of supplying Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine in a hybrid war? What goes around comes around.

The US and NATO have a 9 year head start in spreading terrorism in Russian and Ukraine. Maybe the Russians are only getting started. And the US "color revolution" playbook is largely stolen from the global communist National Liberation Movement playbook, with modern technology upgrades. The KGB taught the CIA everything it knows.
"Zelensky may be an SOB, but he's our SOB." RobSGive Peace a chance 16:16, June 30, 2023 (EDT)
Just as the United States trains terrorists to subvert a society from within, as they did in Ukraine and Libya, attempted in Syria, are now actively doing in Belarus, Russia, Armenia and other former Soviet Republics, are doing in Thailand, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, it's an old trick they learned from the Soviet Communists. The USSR did it in the United States in the 1960s during the Vietnam war - and eventually won the war when they convinced American public opinion to turn against the war and their leaders (you all just witnessed the CIA's amateurish and lame attempts to get the Russian people to turn against Putin and the war with a drone strike on the Kremlin and the Wagner mutiny. It had the opposite effect of strengthening public support for the war against NATO, and seeing NATO as an existential threat to Russia's existence. None of that was censored in Russia's supposed "dictatorship" or media). This is why talk of a "negotiated settlement" in Ukraine is ridiculous, cause the hybrid terrorist attacks will continue in Russia, and eventually reprisal actions will come to America. This hybrid terrorist war will continue for decades - until we get rid of the globalist fascists from the Davos party who run the planet. We need leaders willing to make peace. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:25, June 30, 2023 (EDT)
UKRAINIAN PROPAGANDIST DMITRY GORDON SAYS THE FRANCE SITUATION IS RUSSIA'S FAULT. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:13, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

Did a mercenary order a pizza with missile topping?

[7] RobSGive Peace a chance 16:55, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Note: What's interesting about Radio Sputnik operating in Washington, D.C. is, it is an agreement dating back to Richard Nixon where each side allows the operation of an uncensored, government-funded propaganda radio station in other's capital (kinda like the exchange of embassies, almost). I forget the American chapter in Moscow, it's probably Radio Liberty, or maybe Radio Free Europe. Could even be NPR but I doubt it. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:58, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Khodorkovsky & Pence Want The World To Think Putin Can’t Control The Russian Military

[8] Hmmm, must not be an absolute dictator, I 'spose. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:44, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

But a racist CIA stooge and peacenik like Navalny can stand up to those armed big brutes who were never communists and survived the collapse of the Soviet Union. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:47, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

60 Minutes Australia: Is Vladimir Putin's Power coming to an End?

"For 24 years there was no dispute about who was the boss in Russia. Vladimir Putin seemed to proudly wear the label of the world’s most feared strongman. But last weekend, all of sudden, his iron rule was challenged. Putin stumbled and for the first time appeared weak and vulnerable.

The man threatening to topple the Russian tyrant was Yevgeny Prigozhin, arguably an even nastier piece of work than Putin himself. As the head of the Wagner group, he controls the brutal mercenaries who have been fighting alongside Russian forces in the illegal war against Ukraine. Tom Steinfort reports that what worries the world now is figuring out what Prigozhin’s next move could be. And where."

From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux98Xl_lIWk NishantXavierFor Christ the King 12:05, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Time for some facts.
(a) Prigozhin was working with Ukrainian and Western intelligence;
(b) the Wagner group formerly had 25,000; about 4,000 went to Belarus with Prigozhin. The remainder were officially incorporated into the Russian armed services yesterday.
Did your source report any of that? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:27, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
The problem with relying on Western MSM is, you get a very distorted picture. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:29, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
(c) Putin's approval rating went from 80% to 90% for his handling of the situation - another Western Itelligence failure - more than a failure - a complete mis-assessment that accomplished the exact opposite of they had hoped and intended. Will anybody be fired? Will there be any investigations in to the intelligence community? Doubtful. That's where the real news story is. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:32, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
And as the Russian Foreign Ministry rightly pointed out, during the J6 protests, Russia did not issue public support for one side or the other, neither covertly offer assistance to the "insurrectionists". Which side abides by the "laws of civilized nations"? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:36, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
(d) Many of the 6,000 troops who went with Prigozhin from Ukraine to Rostov did not know they were being used to participate in mutiny. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:19, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
Unfortunately, because of the propaganda now Western intelligence is putting out to coverup their botched operation, the opportunity now is being lost on the public to gain some understanding about the mysterious internal workings of Russia politics and government. But our intelligence agencies and media don't care about informing you, they are too busy trying to cover their butt and keep up the ruse about Russia. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:24, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine War Analyses

Everyone knows the western media narrative already. The western narrative is that Putin is insane, dying, and trying to rebuild the Soviet Union. If you are content with that, stick with MSNBC. Our normal format is daily reports. This section is for articles, discussions, and data that remain relevant over time. Each is a clickable link to a full article. [9]
RobSGive Peace a chance 01:54, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

The above is a subscription service for qualified updates on Ukraine war news; below is essential background reading on MSM sources.

RobSGive Peace a chance 09:09, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

CSIS: Russia Isn’t Going to Run Out of Missiles

The Quincy Institute link above states:

"Of the 15 think tanks most often mentioned in the coverage, only one—Human Rights Watch—does not take funding from Pentagon contractors. Quincy’s analysis found that the media were seven times more likely to cite think tanks with war industry ties than they were to cite think tanks without war industry ties.
With 157 mentions each, the top two think tanks were the Atlantic Council and the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). Both of these think tanks receive millions from the war industry. The Atlantic Council has long been the brain trust of NATO, the military organization whose expansion towards Russia’s borders was a critical factor in Russia’s decision to invade Ukraine. (See FAIR.org, 3/4/22.) Both think tanks receive hundreds of thousands of dollars from Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, companies which have already been awarded billions of dollars in Pentagon contracts as a result of the war in Ukraine.
CSIS was revealed in a New York Times expose (8/7/16) to produce content that reflected the weapons industry priorities of its funders. It also “initiated meetings with Defense Department officials and congressional staff to push for the recommendations” of military funders."

CSIS: Russia Isn’t Going to Run Out of Missiles RobSGive Peace a chance 09:11, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Alex Christoforou describes the report as a sales brochure for Raytheon & the MIC. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:04, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Top US and NATO Military and other Leaders: Vilnius, 2023, should pave the way for Ukraine to join NATO at Washington, 2024

Recall I said it's quite possible the War will end in about a year, i.e. June 2024. I said that before I knew about the below. That there's been planned a 2024 NATO Summit in Washington, America itself shows imo that would be an excellent time for Ukraine to join. And not in my opinion only, but also in the opinion of these esteemed military/other American/European experts below.

"In Vilnius, the alliance should launch a roadmap that will lead clearly to Ukraine’s membership in NATO at the earliest achievable date. As with Finland and Sweden, the process can bypass the Membership Action Plan in light of the close and ongoing interactions between NATO and Ukraine. NATO heads of state and government should task the Council in permanent session to develop recommendations on the timing and modalities of an accession process for Ukraine for decision at the next NATO summit in Washington in 2024..."

Gen. Philip Breedlove (ret.) U.S. Air Force, 17th Supreme Allied Commander Europe; distinguished professor at the Sam Nunn School, Georgia Institute of Technology ...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/05/ukraine-nato-open-letter-00104575

"esteemed" woke military officers and other neocon warmongers. LOL. RobSGive Peace a chance 09:09, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
The other side of the coin: Radkin Delusions, NATO copes by Andrey Martynov, an American citizen and Russian military expert. Radkin is the commander of British naval forces; the UK doesn't have much of an army - about the twice the size of how many NATO/Ukrainians Russia has killed in the past 30 days. RobSGive Peace a chance 09:14, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
Who will the French recruit for their armed services? the same rioters in the street today? RobSGive Peace a chance 09:17, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
KIEV'S BUXOM NEW SPOKESWOMAN HAS MAJOR WAR UPDATE ON ADVANCES TO MELITOPOL LIVE FROM COMMAND CENTER. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:48, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Stoltenberg explains NATO's view on welcoming Ukraine and Vilnius

Ukraine as long as it takes.PNG As long as it takes.PNG
Lord Austin borrowed the same propaganda fairy tale from the UK's top general 12 years before NATO's hasty exit from Afghanistan, having failed to secure "democracy".

"Good afternoon.

NATO Heads of State and Government will meet in Vilnius next week, at a critical moment for our transatlantic security.

Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine continues to rage on.

For 500 days, Moscow has brought death and destruction to the heart of Europe, seeking to destroy Ukraine and divide NATO.

Our Summit will send a clear message. NATO stands united. And Russia’s aggression will not pay." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1cvPVeVJw NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:04, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Korybko: Pay Attention To What NATO Chief Stoltenberg Conspicuously Omitted From His Latest Speech.
Stoltenberg don't care; he's gone in three months. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:11, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
What Korybko is saying is, gone is the "for as long as it takes" rhetoric. Watch now, over the next few days, which buffoons didn't get the memo and still use that line. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:33, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

No he isn't. His term got extended: "NATO extends boss Stoltenberg's term by a year" https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-agrees-extend-boss-stoltenbergs-term-by-year-stoltenberg-twitter-2023-07-04/ He does care, that's why he's on the Right Side in this Fight. You, sadly, aren't. We'll see where things are 1 year from now, where it would be much clearer for those who really want to see the Truth to actually see it. NishantXavierFor Christ the King

Extended a year? Ok, the end is in sight. Zelensky ought to be safely tucked away in his Italian villa by the time Stoltenberg's contract expires. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:43, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

And Estonia's PM might be the next head of NATO: https://estonianworld.com/security/nyt-estonias-kaja-kallas-a-strong-contender-to-be-the-next-nato-chief/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:46, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Nah, they need somebody qualified who knows what they're talking about. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:49, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Kaja Kallas is a Young Global Leaders stooge. RobSGive Peace a chance 09:18, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Will 11th Hour Diplomacy get Sweden into NATO

Turkey is bargaining and bargaining hard to be sure, but just like they ultimately did with Finland, I believe they'll let Sweden in too.

"With the NATO summit set to begin July 11, Sweden, alongside several allies and Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, are making a last-minute push with high-level meetings in Washington and Brussels to ensure that Stockholm’s membership will get a green light from Turkey—the final big step before it can join the Alliance.

On Wednesday, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson met with US President Joe Biden in Washington DC, followed by a meeting between Swedish, Finnish, and Turkish foreign ministers in Brussels on Thursday. The central message: Sweden is ready to become an ally—immediately.

For several months, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has kept Sweden and NATO allies on the edge of their seats over Swedish extraditions of individuals connected to the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). Stockholm and Ankara have been at an impasse, trading arguments over due process and terrorist threats. Enflaming the whole process has been a series of Quran burnings, something which Kristersson has said is legal, but not respectful.

Just like at the NATO Summit in Madrid last year, Erdogan has placed himself in the role of kingmaker. All allies except Turkey and Hungary have ratified Sweden’s membership, and Hungary is widely considered to be following Turkey’s lead."

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/will-eleventh-hour-diplomacy-get-sweden-into-nato-by-the-vilnius-summit/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:10, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, the neo-fascist Atlantic Council, hmmm. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:23, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Disputed Aegean Islands by NATO allies Greece and Turkiye.

How is it neo-fascist? by the definition given, of a corporation working hand in glove with a government to achieve totalitarian objectives, it is not: "The Atlantic Council promotes constructive leadership and engagement in international affairs based on the Atlantic Community’s central role in meeting global challenges. The Council provides an essential forum for navigating the dramatic economic and political changes defining the twenty-first century by informing and galvanizing its uniquely influential network of global leaders. The Atlantic Council—through the papers it publishes, the ideas it generates, the future leaders it develops, and the communities it builds—shapes policy choices and strategies to create a more free, secure, and prosperous world ... 2022 was the most successful year in the Atlantic Council’s history, with our work helping to provide policymakers and the public with solutions to the world’s most difficult challenges." https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:07, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Read the Atlantic Council page top to bottom and tell me what you think. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:09, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Incidentally, most of it was posted in 2019, including this: "The Atlantic Council was pushing to ramp up the proxy war between Russian Ukrainians and nationalist Ukrainians."
"Russian Ukrainians" would be citizens of the Donbas, and "nationalist Ukrainians" would be "Banderites". RobSGive Peace a chance 16:15, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
"Why would Sweden want to join NATO?" – Colonel Douglas Macgregor. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:09, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
BINGO! Sullivan Says US to Move Forward With $20 Billion F-16 Sale to Turkey. The comments came after Erdogan backed Sweden's NATO bid. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:41, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
So the deal that got Sweden into NATO now leads to increased tensions between NATO ally Turkey and NATO ally Greece. There are no solutions, only trade offs. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:43, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

"Ukraine ‘deserves’ NATO membership, Turkey’s Erdogan says"

Thank you, President Erdogan: well done to you. I stand by my prediction, which is confirmed by Muslim Turkey being so co-operative with the Judeo-Christian West: NATO will welcome (1) Sweden as NATO Member 32 by this year end, if not Vilnius, and (2) Ukraine as Member #33.

If Erdogan is in favor, as the below news shows, it will almost certainly go through when the time comes. Perhaps Washington Summit, 2024, perhaps some where late next year. And yes, I do think Christians - though it might be Atheists doing it - should not burn the Quran, at least not in public, provoking 2 BN Muslims, while gaining nothing. The Christian World and Muslim World should work together. It is possible, and Blessed are the Peace-Makers. Below from Islamic News Site Al Jazeera: "A Fair Peace creates no losers":

"Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also called for a return to peace talks saying, ‘a fair peace creates no losers’."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/8/ukraine-deserves-nato-membership-turkeys-erdogan-says?traffic_source=KeepReading

"Turkey supports Ukraine’s NATO membership aspirations, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelenskyy, but he also urged for a “return to peace efforts” to end the conflict that has now raged for 500 days since Russia invaded Ukraine last year. “There is no doubt that Ukraine deserves membership of NATO,” Erdogan told a joint press conference with the Ukrainian president in Istanbul early on Saturday, adding that the two sides should go back to peace talks." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:16, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Both NATO & the EU are struggling for survival. Both appear hell bent on a suicidal path.
Incidentally, al Jazeera is just another Western propaganda mouthpiece aimed at the Islamic world in the Middle East. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:16, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
What Turkiye likes about Ukraine is, it sells its Bayraktar drones to Ukraine (which actually is American money). But it sells the same drones to Russia, as well. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:20, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Excerpts from the Joint NATO Communique at Vilnius

Zelensky at Vilnius

"3. We welcome Finland as the newest member of our Alliance. This is an historic step for Finland and for NATO. For many years, we worked closely as partners; we now stand together as Allies. NATO membership makes Finland safer, and NATO stronger. 4. We reaffirm our commitment to NATO’s Open Door policy and to Article 10 of the Washington Treaty. Every nation has the right to choose its own security arrangements. We look forward to welcoming Sweden as a full member of the Alliance and, in this regard, welcome the agreement reached between the NATO Secretary General, the President of Türkiye, and the Prime Minister of Sweden ... 6. Strategic competition, pervasive instability and recurrent shocks define our broader security environment. Conflict, fragility and instability in Africa and the Middle East directly affect our security and the security of our partners. The People’s Republic of China’s (PRC) stated ambitions and coercive policies challenge our interests, security and values. We remain open to constructive engagement with the PRC, including to build reciprocal transparency, with a view to safeguarding the Alliance’s security interests. We continue to be confronted by cyber, space, hybrid and other asymmetric threats, and by the malicious use of emerging and disruptive technologies. 7. Russia bears full responsibility for its illegal, unjustifiable, and unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine, which has gravely undermined Euro-Atlantic and global security and for which it must be held fully accountable. We continue to condemn in the strongest terms Russia’s blatant violations of international law, the Charter of the United Nations, and OSCE commitments and principles. We do not and will never recognise Russia’s illegal and illegitimate annexations, including Crimea. There can be no impunity for Russian war crimes and other atrocities, such as attacks against civilians and the destruction of civilian infrastructure that deprives millions of Ukrainians of basic human services. All those responsible must be held accountable for violations and abuses of human rights and international humanitarian law, particularly against Ukraine’s civilian population, including the forced deportation of children and conflict-related sexual violence. The destruction of the Kakhovka dam highlights the brutal consequences of the war started by Russia. Russia’s war has had a profound impact on the environment, nuclear safety, energy and food security, the global economy, and the welfare of billions of people around the world. Allies are working to enable exports of Ukrainian grain and actively support international efforts to alleviate the global food crisis. 8. Russia must immediately stop this illegal war of aggression, cease its use of force against Ukraine, and completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its forces and equipment from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognised borders, extending to its territorial waters. We urge all countries not to provide any kind of assistance to Russia’s aggression and condemn all those who are actively facilitating Russia’s war... 11. We fully support Ukraine’s right to choose its own security arrangements. Ukraine’s future is in NATO. We reaffirm the commitment we made at the 2008 Summit in Bucharest that Ukraine will become a member of NATO, and today we recognise that Ukraine’s path to full Euro-Atlantic integration has moved beyond the need for the Membership Action Plan. Ukraine has become increasingly interoperable and politically integrated with the Alliance, and has made substantial progress on its reform path. In line with the 1997 Charter on a Distinctive Partnership between NATO and Ukraine and the 2009 Complement, Allies will continue to support and review Ukraine’s progress on interoperability as well as additional democratic and security sector reforms that are required. NATO Foreign Ministers will regularly assess progress through the adapted Annual National Programme. The Alliance will support Ukraine in making these reforms on its path towards future membership. We will be in a position to extend an invitation to Ukraine to join the Alliance when Allies agree and conditions are met." https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_217320.htm NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:47, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

RobSGive Peace a chance 21:58, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

$50 bet: We'll soon see photos of Zelensky without his green fatigues. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:48, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Western propaganda's timing is atrocious

14 YO SEX SLAVE WAS SOLD TO MARINES ON U.S. MARINE CORPS BASE - CAMP PENDLETON. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:26, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Breaking: Turkey's Erdogan to back Sweden joining NATO - Stoltenberg!

Finally! This is awesome news for NATO supporters. The next step, after Ukraine, is NATO expanding to Asia, with Japan, South Korea, India, then Australia etc. But this is a day for rejoicing for those who've been supporting NATO. American, European, Transatlantic, and International Security just got stronger by a lot. And btw, a prediction of mine came true to the letter. Maybe I should add it to CP proven right? lol. Anyway, here's the news:

"Turkey's Erdogan to back Sweden joining Nato - Stoltenberg"

"Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has agreed to support Sweden's bid to join Nato, the military alliance's chief Jens Stoltenberg has said.

He said the Turkish leader would forward Sweden's bid to the parliament in Ankara and "ensure ratification".

Meanwhile, Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson said: "I am very happy, it is a good day for Sweden." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66160319 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:35, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

War Pigs. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:45, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
The Nato mindset leads to war. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:58, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Sweden Joins NATO! And Why That’s A Very Bad Thing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:41, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

‘NATO’ is the Nazi Alliance Treaty Organization

The Duran: Don't say you Nazisymps weren't warned weeks ago. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:13, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

Stalin was a sensitive man, eh? You're certifiable, Quint. ConwayIII (talk) 18:45, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
Our Robscist pal here is indeed a certified ☭Comsymp☭. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 18:50, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
Ask him about his Donbas "cauldron" sometime. Destroy the Entire Ukrainian JFO Instantly With This One Weird Trick! ConwayIII (talk) 20:20, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
I don't know much about the Donbas "cauldron," and there's plenty more ways to foil his arguments that result in some interesting confessions from the horse's mouth. His simultaneous defense of Putin-supporting Communists and insistence that calling Putin a commie constitutes "Nazi propaganda" is hilarious. In essence, he's now a fellow traveller. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:25, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
Even Truman, the great protector of Alger Hiss and other spies, wasn't pro-communist enough, according to Zuesse. Hiss engineered the pre-war oil embargo on Japan as a favor to Stalin. Truman had to adjust course after the Republicans won the November 1946 midterms on the issue of anti-Communism. But his natural instinct was always to treat the communists as potential allies against the "fascist" GOP. Don't forget that he fired MacArthur for trying to win the Korean War. The Red Chinese had to save face, don't you know. PeterKa (talk) 22:16, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
That was actually Harry Dexter White in the Treasury Dept, not Hiss. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:05, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
It's funny that most of the internationalist Cold War warriors who made a great talk of anti-Communist action to protect global democracy so bitterly opposed the Dies Committee investigations, McCarthyism, and the Reece Committee. Entrenched establishmentarians such as Eisenhower actively undermined efforts to root out domestic Communist subversion, particularly attempting to derail the Reece Committee's crusade by slandering it as "antisemitic" (according to Norman Dodd, it was merely one staff member who promoted anti-Jewish literature, and they were disciplined). In the U.S. House vote to reestablish the Select Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations, which became known as the Reece Committee, most of the Conservative Coalition rallied behind in support along with a scant amount of liberal Southern Democrats while basically all Northern Democrats and a group of moderate establishment Republicans (Ford, Frelinghuysen, Javits, etc.) comprised much of the opposition.
The reestablishment of the SCITEFCO was necessary; the previous Cox Committee ran an investigation dubbed by Reece, absent for most sessions due to family illnesses, as having "insufficient time for the magnitUde of its task." And years later, neo-Jacksonian liberal Democrat Wright Patman continued the investigations of tax-exempt foundations for tax evasion, as recommended by the report of the Cox Committee. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:28, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Misguided anti-communism led the United States into asinine conflicts like the Vietnam war and Korea. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:34, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
I lack the military-related knowledge to understand the background of those wars, though as a whole, the Old Right was definitely right about sticking to domestic anti-Communist investigations of subversion rather than feeding the warmongering establishment. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:51, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Unfortunately, conservatives were deceived by Goldwater Republicanism, which was nothing more than an outgrowth of the modern Eastern Establishment that developed among internationalist Moderate Republicans during the 1940s. (and also! Goldwater was a 33-degree Freemason, I believe, which means he must've secretly been a Luciferian occultist) "A Choice Not An Echo" only got half the picture right: Robert A. Taft indeed was a diligent opponent of the liberal globalists whose ambitions they destroyed, but Goldwater had no connection with the Taft-aligned Old Right. While the book is popular among New Right, modern conservative discourse, it embraced a deceptive form of "right-wing" thought deviant from the authentic conservative principles of the Old Right. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:55, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
The Vietnam war was insane. Look at Peter's comment, above: Truman's "natural instinct was always to treat the communists as potential allies against the "fascist" GOP. Don't forget that he fired MacArthur for trying to win the Korean War." MacArthur was for a long time a serious GOP challenger for president against both FDR & Truman; when Eisenhower was elected, MacArthur remarked that Ike was the best staff officer he ever had. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:00, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Democratic accusations of the GOP as "fascist" goes back to Henry A. Wallace. The irony here, of course, is that actual Fascists gave quite a glowing review of Henry Wallace's book New Frontiers. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 15:04, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
That's right; anyone not onboard with Russia's war effort against Nazi Germany was deemed a "fascist", for example, union workers who went on strike for higher wages in wartime, which would break wartime wage and price controls, were called "fascists". Just as today anyone who does not support Russia's defense against NATO aggression is a fascist. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:13, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
[EC] [EC] Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha XD- so now you're just parroting New Deal–era left-wing propaganda tactics. The horse's mouth spouts new admissions every day! Karajou hereby is fully vindicated for calling you a liberal two years ago. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 15:17, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
No, that's what America Firster and isolationist John Flynn reported: "Wages were held down in slaughter houses. The workers quit the legitimate slaughterers and went to work for black-market slaughterers at twice the legal wages, or went into munitions plants, and scores of slaughter houses were put out of business. The unfortunate slaughterer or meat dealer or packer who complained was called a fascist." pg 314. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:32, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
There's something wrong with your basic logic and reasoning; everyday you try to draw a straight line from the 19th and early 20th century progressivism to modern day leftist and socialist sentiments. You make arguments about the Old Right, etc. Then you turn a blind eye, using your own rhetoric, logic, and reasoning to your fascist opposition to Vladimir Putin and Russia. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:37, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Get away from the ideologues, and come over to the Realist school. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:38, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
No. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 16:24, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
It's a dead end, cause when you come into conflict with the real world, you're trapped just like leftist dreamers in a world that never existed and never will exist. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:27, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
IOWs, what you think is your "ideology", is an ideology created and defined by leftists. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:30, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, I'm now like a leftist? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 16:31, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
No, your ideology guides you to such conclusions, regardless of facts.
You're right, Trump is not a "conservative"; you're wrong, Trump is not a socialist. Trump is a realist. And he's got the record of personal success to prove it. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:34, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
The bible should be a close enough guide on realism, and it warns you off of false ideologies. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:36, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Yes, the Bible indeed exhorts believers not to believe in sun- er, Sunday worship, Commu-Putinism, "right-wing" populism, "Christian Nationalism," worldly rabble-rousers, and otherwise children of the devil (Matt. 13:38, John 8:44) damned to eternal perdition. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 19:22, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Congrats; you just invented a new false ideology: Commu-Putinism. A lie from the pit of hell. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:54, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Putin was a member of the Soviet KGB. 'Nuff said. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 21:23, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Paul was a persecutor of Christians. 'Nuff said. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:01, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
What do you think it means to "repent" and be "born again"? But thy impenitent and unforgiving heart treasurest up wrath against thyself... RobSGive Peace a chance 22:22, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, you actually think that Putin is some repentant, godly individual? Are you going to ignore all the critics brutally murdered Arkancide-style or the countless civilian deaths by Commuputinist bombs? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 22:27, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, except by the Holy Spirit. Who am I supposed to believe, God or the BBC? RobSGive Peace a chance 22:46, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Let's look at you argument that "Christian nationalism" and "rightwing populism" trace their origins to 19th century Progressivism; or your argument that my failure to "Sieg Heil" contemporary MSM anti-Putin propaganda makes me a comysymp; by that same logic you are a fascist and nazisymp. You leave yourself no flexibility. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:41, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Your argument is as terrible as your grammar. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 19:09, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Sorry. My brain isn't attuned to popular culture and MSM. I know my grammar appears awkward at times. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:54, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
And your brain also clearly isn't attuned to a sound understanding of historical realities. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 21:25, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
yes and no; I understand history and life is organic, and doesn't necessarily follow strict patterns and rules. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:01, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Kiev mistrusts G7 security guarantees

"Ukrainian Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov has expressed skepticism over security guarantees that G7 nations are set to offer Kiev, after NATO’s failure to chart a roadmap to membership for Kiev....“After the Budapest Memorandum, we will not believe or not just trust paper without any cost,” he explained. [10]

Wow. Didn't I just say last week that it was the United States in violation of the Budapest Memorandum? RobSGive Peace a chance 23:28, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

"Ukraine will not repeat the mistake with the Budapest memorandum: it turns out that the signature of the US president is worthless in this world" - Danilov. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:48, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Japan and NATO join hands in new partnership deal at NATO Vilnius summit 2023

Nato should expand Eastward, I.e. in Asia, welcoming Asian Countries like Japan, South Korea, and India, and Oceanic like Australia and New Zealand in time. There are signs of this happening already, but Leftist Liberal and Commie-appeaser Macron is stopping it to please the CCP: Natos planned new office in Japan for e.g. Anyway, Raeganite Peace through Strength works and can stop the ongoing War and the CCP also NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:05, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

"The new partnership programme comes as NATO explores a deeper engagement with Asia while China increases its military presence.

Tokyo: Japan’s Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said on Wednesday he welcomed that Japan and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) had agreed on a new partnership programme, ahead of his attendance at the NATO Vilnius summit.At a joint announcement with NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg, Kishida said he looked forward to furthering cooperation in new areas including cyber-security, and hoped to deepen cooperation with NATO as it increases its engagement with the Indo-Pacific.

The new partnership programme comes as NATO explores a deeper engagement with Asia while China increases its military presence." https://theprint.in/world/japan-and-nato-agree-on-new-partnership-programme-at-nato-vilnius-summit/1665695/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:05, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

China soon to go "ballistic" on NATO/US. Threatens it will protect its Rights. Back off, NATO! RobSGive Peace a chance 20:54, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

So, we're all "rah-rah-commie-ccp" now, are we? Lol. I sure hope not. Btw, those earlier articles you wrote about the CCP were very good. All I can say is I just hope you still hold the same positions, because I do. As for whether Biden, or Kamala, or Newsom, or whoever, will run, that's for the dems to decide. I hope Biden runs because he's the weakest and will be the easiet to defeat. What conservatives should worry about is Positions, not Personalities - whose policies are the best and how we can advance the Pro-Life Cause, Defeat Abortion, promote Peace through Strength, have Good Goverance, and more. As for the Commie CCP, it's not by any means too difficult to defeat, if that was your earlier implication. But the right steps need to be taken. Part of that is NATO expanding East and including Asian Countries like Japan, South Korea, India and the Philippines in the Alliance - countries with which the US already has some kind of arrangement. It's best to do it through NATO, because then also European Countries and Asian Countries, along with the US, can work together for Peace. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:34, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

No. I ain't 'rah rah ccp'. I'm anti-NATO aggression. Taiwan is part of China, according to the US State Department. If the US flipped its position (which wouldn't be the first time), it would be a different matter. Till then, the totalitarian fascist MSM and Biden junta don't speak for me. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:21, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Lavrov warmly greeted in Indonesia

It's only the 4th most populated country in the world, behind China and India. Geez, I wonder what his appeal is? Didn't Biden and Blinken tell us Russia was isolated, and the whole world was against them? RobSGive Peace a chance 01:56, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Surely the Muslims world was more anti-American after 9/11. Of course, liberals didn't connect anti-Americanism to 9/11, but imagined that the world hated Bush as much as they did. PeterKa (talk) 04:03, July 13, 2023 (EDT)
Somethins' up when a 75-year-old foreign minister is greeted as a rock star at a press conference. It's not like the plant the Biden propaganda apparatus has in the crowd that screams, "Wooooooow" as he approaches. RobSGive Peace a chance 07:00, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

What makes US Precision Guided Missiles “FLOP” In Ukraine?

What makes US Precision Guided Missiles “FLOP” In Ukraine? RobSGive Peace a chance 20:25, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Biden Admin seeks "mission accomplished" moment to secure political exit route from Ukraine proxy war

[11] "Calling up the reserves isn't indicative of a coming all out war, but something else entirely.
"America’s proxy war with Russia over Ukraine is becoming increasingly unpopular on the home front, and more and more damaging to reputation of the D.C. Uniparty, and now it appears that the Biden Administration is seeking an exit from the conflict in the coming months ahead." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:33, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Pentagon says Ukraine Counter-Offensive pretty remarkable

I stand by my prediction that Ukraine can and will win this fight, and subsequently join NATO, possibly as early as end of 2024. See below on the progress of the Counter-Offensive thus far, and the Pentagon's remarks that it's pretty remarkable:

"The current pace of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is explained by the fact that the advance is taking place in tough terrain. At the same time, the achievements of the Ukrainian military are pretty remarkable."

“They [Armed Forces of Ukraine]’re using new equipment and they're doing that all while being shot at and bombed, not to mention the … extensive mining that the Russians have put in place. And so where they are gaining hundreds of meters a day, maybe a kilometer a day in some places, they're doing that at great cost in terms of effort,” Lieutenant General Douglas Sims, Director for Operations of the U.S. Joint Staff told a briefing. The Lieutenant General emphasized that the counteroffensive is taking place "in great order across on the battlefield," although may not be at the speed that the United States would prefer."

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3735900-pentagon-says-ukraines-counteroffensive-pretty-remarkable.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 23:05, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Have people not done the Basic Calculation that the Combined GDP of America and Europe, i.e. NATO is around 40 Trillion, whereas that of Russia is less than 2 TN? It's laughable to think Russia can outlast the combined forces of NATO, laughable, mathematically preposterous.

What needs to happen for Peace is Russia should realize it cannot fin this War it started. It should retreat, democratize, and later join NATO itself. A Combined Alliance of America, Europe and Russia is Communist China's, and also Radical Islamism's, Worst Fear. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 23:13, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

The Pentagon is on drugs. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:12, July 15, 2023 (EDT)
The pentagon doesn't just talk like that out of the blue; they are responding to this: Ukrainian reports reveal Zelensky's army is psychologically crushed, suffering "lowest possible effectiveness". There hoping nobody reads the report. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:03, July 15, 2023 (EDT)
During the past two and half weeks alone, Russia suffered 1,500 casualties, of which 200-300 were estimated to be killed, while Ukraine suffered 24,000 to 26,000 combat deaths, with twice that many wounded.. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:06, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

AP Obfuscates The Real Black Sea Grain Deal Numbers

[See The Propaganda Multiplier for reference on AP.] Moon of Alabama reports: [12]

"The grain deal had two parts. One was the access of ships to Ukrainian harbors. The other was the normal export of grain and fertilizer from Russia.
"While Russia had facilitated the first part of the deal the 'West' had collectively blocked the second part.
"The lengthy creation of exclusive payment channels [i.e. Russia sanctions and banning Russia from the SWIFT network of international payment transactions] that can be blocked and controlled by the 'West', as [UN General Secretary] Guterres now offers, is not a solution that Russia will support.
"When you see the next headline about 'Russia blocking Ukrainian exports to hungry people' keep the above in mind." [Bolden in original].
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:33, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Seventy House Republicans vote to end U.S. aid to Ukraine

The list includes Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Lauren Boebert. PeterKa (talk) 22:12, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Praise Jesus! RobSGive Peace a chance 22:32, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

The Hindu Editorial on NATO and Ukraine

The Hindu is one of India's Major Newspapers. It's called the Hindu, but it's a Secular Publication. Anyway, this article, which takes a somewhat neutral stance - (1) it blames Putin and the Kremlin for his unjust aggression and desire for territorial acquisition, but also (2) it claims a partial blame lies on NATO as well, also mentions another important point: (3) If Ukraine does accede to NATO, then Ukraine will have make steps toward democracy, human rights and peace, including showing it treats minorities fairly, develops a free market economy etc. So, those who have concerns about corruption etc in Ukraine should realize, as the process, which will play out slowly, maybe in the next 1-1.5 years or so, as the war gradually ends, there's a good chance a Strong, Free and Democratic Ukraine, with full rights for minorities, and a functioning free-market economy with limited corruption, will join NATO and then the EU as well. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 06:42, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Dream on. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:16, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

"Members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) met in Lithuania to take stock of their military and financial support to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression there, but came away without offering any timetable to induct Ukraine, much to the chagrin of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Mr. Zelenskyy, who vented his frustration after the summit, has only received reassuring words from U.S. President Joe Biden to the effect that Russian President Vladimir Putin “wrongly believes he can outlast Ukraine”. Mr. Zelenskyy’s apparent sense of disappointment is likely to have been multiplied by the fact that as of April, Finland became the 31st member, and with Turkey withdrawing its objections, it is only a matter of time until Sweden signs its documents of accession. In reality, NATO has not only gone to great lengths to support Ukraine’s war efforts directly but has also waived its Membership Action Plan. This plan is a series of political and military steps to ensure that the prospective new entrant is a functioning democracy based on a market economy, that its military is under tight civilian control, that it shows commitment to the peaceful resolution of conflicts, that it treats minority populations fairly, and that it has the ability and willingness to contribute to NATO operations ... "It is true that Mr. Putin is likely to remain undeterred in his ambition for territorial acquisition fuelled by the shadowy inner politics of the Kremlin — yet if NATO is a grouping that genuinely cares about market economies, democracy, human rights, and peace, it needs to work towards changing the very paradigm that set this avoidable conflict in motion in the first place." https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/reflective-pause-the-hindu-editorial-on-nato-and-ukraine/article67076301.ece NishantXavierFor Christ the King To be clear, I don't agree fully with the article myself, but it contains some important information. Let's see how the situation develops. If there are some abuses on the ground or corruption etc in Ukraine, no Ukraine-supporter like myself agrees with those abuses. However, what Russia is doing is far worse, and has caused Millions of innocent people to suffer displacement from their homes, 100s of 1000s to die and be killed etc, and violates the Proportionality Condition in Just War Theory: "[4] the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition." Russia's violated this totally imo, despite its false claims of wanting to support Russian-speakers in Ukraine, whereas it has levelled predominantly Russian-speaking Ukrainian towns like Mariupol, a town of 400,000, predominantly Russian speaking. As a Ukrainian Priest on the ground said: "After the liberation from Russian occupancy of such cities as Bucha, Irpin, and Gostomel, hundreds of corpses of civilians were found there with traces of torture, the bodies of raped and killed women who they tried to burn.

On several occasions, the Russians did not allow humanitarian missions to enter Mariupol or other occupied cities to deliver food or evacuate civilians. This army, which came "to save the Russian-speaking population," almost wiped out Mariupol, a city of more than four hundred thousand people, mostly Russian-speaking." This also violates the "Just Conduct during War" condition of Just War. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 06:48, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Documentary On CIA's MK Ultra In Ukraine. CIA using MK ULTRA program to drug Ukrainian soldiers in order to turn them into demonic killers. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:45, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
Nothing new in terms of propaganda, fake news, and psyops. The simple truth is, it is impossible to defeat Russia. Ukraine will be de-nazified first. If NATO, too wishes to be de-nazified, that too can happen. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:23, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
The West does not have the industrial capacity to compete with Russia in terms of conventional war, let alone the combined strength of Russia and China's industrial capacity. That leaves only nuclear war. And the West cannot win a nuclear war against the world's largest nuclear power.
All the fluff about market economies, democracy, human rights is just that, fluff, propaganda, and BS which Western oligarchs who control Western markets, governments, media, and the people, the oligarchs themselves do not believe in. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:27, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
The stuff about minorities is a joke; we've had 9 years now of NATO and the Kyiv regime making war, with conventional weapons, against the civilian population of Donbas. It has been totally censored in Western "democratic" "free speech" media. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:33, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
Presently, we are waiting for the first report of a cluster bomb attack aimed at civilians. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:55, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
NATO enlargement has become a threat to the United States itself.
"Inviting Kiev to join NATO could mean something entirely new for American foreign policy – a willingness to fight a peer adversary like Russia. Throughout their history, Americans have shied away from this, using other players as battering rams willing to sacrifice and suffer for American interests.“
Zelensky mortgaged Ukraine's sovereignty to Western oligarchs, and NATO chickenhawks are coming home to roost.
" Forever War good, Nuclear War bad. Just as covid hysteria era facilitated a massive windfall for Big Pharma and broader healthcare/medical industrial mega corporations, the Ukraine war has become a major slush fund for the NATO-aligned defense industry, which has been seeking a new surefire, longterm cash cow since the withdrawal from Afghanistan." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:48, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
More news from India: Real news gets censored, propaganda gets unleashed: The sinister alliance. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:07, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
As to your efforts to bolster your arguments with "Just War Theory", It is Corban...Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:21, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Ukrainian Troops Liquidate Civilian In Car

[13] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:53, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

FULL VIDEO BREAKDOWN HOW AFU MURDERED CIVILIAN FAMILY IN COLD BLOOD IN UGLEDAR. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:52, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Seems fairly routine and coordinated (Note: A pregnant woman was also murdered, not reported in the first video). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:56, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Update

NATO bosses at Vilnius gave Zelensky til November 2023 to show results or face funding cuts and begin negotiations with Moscow. Zaluzhny opposes and further push on the Southern front, but Zelensky ordered him to continue suicidal attacks.

Sorry due to security concerns around translations I cannot disclose my sources at this time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:09, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Update: Jake Dreizin says, " It’s public now, directors of the U.S. CIA and Russian SVR recently discussed how to resolve the Ukraine. The Ukraine war ends soon enough, because the U.S. and its hegemonic bloc STRAIGHT UP RUN OUT OF AMMO by the first months of next year, IN THE VERY “BEST” CASE (for them.) That is, they’ll be able to supply the Ukraine minimally after that, but, NOT REMOTELY enough to keep Russia at bay. I’ll publish an audio in which I go over the numbers, as well as newly-disclosed numbers on the Russian side. You’ll hear the IMITATORS pile on shortly, but remember, you heard it HERE FIRST. It’s ending, and that’s NOT up for debate. Russian arms may or may not win this war, but Russian industry (and planning and foresight) certainly will, soon. UNTIL then, the Ukraine’s role is merely that of a SUICIDE BOMBER, a dead-end flunky chump, used by the bosses. AFTER that, ANYTHING is possible, just like after the U.S. lost in Vietnam." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:28, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

China updates

Biological Terrorism: China engineered Covid 19 to purposely infect people, reveals Wuhan researcher

[pls move to Conservapedia Community Portal if that is deemed more suitable for this discussion]

I saw someone say that, because the American Deep State (as opposed to Good Conservative Leaders) is evil (it is), therefore, allegedly, the Communist Party of China, responsible for an ongoing genocide of Uyghur Muslims, is supposedly not evil (it is, too). That's a Non Sequitur.

See: "The Chinese government has reportedly arbitrarily detained more than a million Muslims in reeducation camps since 2017. Most of the people who have been detained are Uyghur, a predominantly Turkic-speaking ethnic group primarily in China’s northwestern region of Xinjiang. Beyond the detentions, Uyghurs in the region have been subjected to intense surveillance, forced labor, and involuntary sterilizations, among other rights abuses. The United States and several other foreign governments have described China’s actions in Xinjiang as genocide, while the UN human rights office said that the violations could constitute crimes against humanity. Chinese officials have said that they have not infringed on Uyghurs’ rights and claimed that they closed the reeducation camps in 2019. However, international journalists and researchers have documented an ongoing system of mass detention throughout the region using satellite images, individual testimonies, and leaked Chinese government documents." https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

On Covid, this just in: one must have a broad international perspective, and not think of the whole world in terms of American domestic politics alone. Just because there are some bad people in the Deep State, and hardly anyone in the know denies there are, this doesn't mean there aren't bad Communist/Dictatorial Regimes in the world, like the Commie CCP is. Neither is it Anti-Chinese people to say so; in fact, we're being the voice of the good and innocent Chinese people who are suffering under the regime when we critique the CCP regime, just as one would be the voice of the voiceless when standing up against abortion etc; remember the millions who died/suffered under Covid and consider fairly whether the below could be true. It's an astonishing claim and worthy of a fair international investigation.

"A researcher from the Wuhan Institute of Virology has made an astonishing claim that coronavirus was purposely engineered by China to infect people. Chao Shao, a researcher, said his colleagues were given four strains of the virus to find out which could spread best."

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/biological-terrorism-china-engineered-covid-19-to-purposely-infect-people-reveals-wuhan-researcher-11687928751255.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 14:34, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

We do need some discussion on this subject, however scapegoating China and the CCP isn't the way to go. It was collaboration between Fauci and certain American private interests along with the Wuhan lab. I would recommend go over CP's Wuhan lab & Fauci articles, and look for information that builds on the sources there.
There is a concerted effort now to take the heat off the American taxpayer money that funded the Wuhan lab, and point the finger at China as solely responsible. This obvious from the CFR pushing Sinophobia now to justify war with China. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:42, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Both the Commie CCP and the Commie Deep State should fall. One of the reasons I support De Santis is I think he is a No-Nonsense Administrator. If you don't follow the agenda of the elected government, you should be packing your bags. The govt. answers to the people. Whom do Deep State Bureacrats answer to? No one/special interests. It's very bad, and I agree it's a perfectly legitimate concern to be concerned about the Deep State, especially given the amount of power it has, the amount of evil it does, and the amount of good it can frustrate. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 14:49, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Well now your getting off topic bringing DeSantis name into it.
Here is a thumbnail sketch of the narrative outfits like CFR are trying to coverup:
In 2015, there were a breakthrough in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab published in scientific journals; the response among many scientists was that this research was too dangerous and people should back away from further research. The Obama administration issued an Executive Order banning more research - but there's a catch - it only banned such research in the United States. So Fauci transferred the research to Wuhan. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:55, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Don't think it is off topic. One of the reasons people supported Trump is to destroy the Deep State. He did do some good things, but he couldn't do that. I think De Santis would, or at least would significantly reduce their power.

Most conservatives don't understand that "laissez-faire" anarchism is not acceptable in government. That's not what "limited government" should mean when it comes to dealing with evildoers. If you can't be tough in dealing with bad guys, you don't belong in government.

Here's what Saint Paul taught on that in the Epistle to the Romans: "3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer. 5Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience" (Roman 13:3-5)

You mentioned Gain of Function research, and that's Exhibit A: "DeSantis signs bills banning vaccine mandates, gain of function research" https://www.thecentersquare.com/florida/article_f0320380-f024-11ed-9f74-7f94c974e2ac.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:01, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

And Fauci should have been fired long ago. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:04, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

The focus of this thread is countering the deep state narrative that China is soley responsible for the pandemic. Let's stick to countering that with facts from re[putable source.
Ideological arguments about conservativism or political candidates go on other threads in other articles, for now. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:57, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. The issue is, how to ensure (1) something like Covid (from the development of the virus, to its release and outbreak, to the Deep State coverup, to the unsafe vaccines) never happens again, and (2) how to hold accountable those whose actions led to the loss of millions of lives, and caused many more millions to suffer worldwide. For that, we need something like (1) a Nuremberg II Tribunal, with (2) bad actors internationally, whether in the US like Fauci, or the Commie CCP, or anywhere else, held accountable for their actions, after a thorough investigation of all malpractice. That is in principle. Procedurally, you're only going to get that with strong Conservative Leadership. Commie Stalin said: "The death of a single person is a tragedy. The death of millions, a statistic". That shows how his warped Commie-mind thought. It isn't true and we conservatives shouldn't allow it to be so. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:09, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) okay, very good. You see a larger picture. Right now we need adequate documentation of the crimes that took place. Remember, the globalists and deep staters have much more powerful influence in media, academia, think tanks, and government. Despite being vastly outgunned, the censorship they employ should be viewed as a sign of weakness. They fear the truth and reality getting out to general public. So we need to focus on the knowledgeable sources and help them, get what they know out.
We can begin with people like Sen. Rand Paul and Rep. Jim Jordan who have a pretty clear understanding of the facts of what happened. Journalists like Lee Smith and Glenn Greenwald and a few others also are very good. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. also has a very clear understanding. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:26, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Nikki Haley on Commie China

Nikki Haley, take a bow. She rightly points out how liberal Blinked allowed Commie Thug Xi to scold him and thus America by extension. Again, conservative brothers and sisters, from the fact that the liberal Biden-Blinken duo is kowtowing to and bootlicking Xi, draw the right conclusion that the truly Conservative Approach/Position toward Commie China is Raeganite Peace through Strength, and inexorable/invincible American/European/NATO Strength, as well as fresh modern Alliances in the Indo-Pacific and Global South.

Here is the Video: https://youtu.be/JVz1mgcayAw Absolutely brutal in criticizing the Biden Administration's bad policies making everything worse. She also mentions how important it is to draw in the Arab World as partners and Biden's foolish policies pushing them away. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Watch between 17-19 mins: "I gave the example. To me, the most glaring is, you don't congratulate the Chinese Communist Party for taking over China 70 years ago. We don't congratulate Communism, we condemn it [makes sense considering Communism is responsible for over 65+ Million Deaths in China alone. See: https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/the-legacy-mao-zedong-mass-murder]. That's the Moral Clarity that I'm talking about. We have to know Right from Wrong. You never go and tell someone who is stealing, "Oh you go get them", Oh keep oppressing", you don't tell a Dictator that the way they sit there and hold their hand down on their People is a Good Thing. You congratulate Freedom, you congratulate Democracy, you congratulate when People have the Individual Liberties ... You NEVER congratulate Communism". NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:37, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

The Heritage Foundation was once a very respected conservative think tank during the Reagan years. However now it has a reputation as being overtaken by globalist views - at least on foreign policy and trade matters. It's stuff on election fraud is excellent, unsurpassed by any other DC think tank, IMO. However its perspectives on Russia and China should be suspect, and not viewed as authoritive (unless at some point there's a big shake up in management. But here again, the globalists got the big bucks to buy think tanks like Heritage, and there's not really any big sources of funding for anti-neocon perspectives). RobSGive Peace a chance 17:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Funding is not as important as Truth. If something is Truth, either the funding will follow, or the Truth will get out anyway, supported by powerful arguments for the Truth: "there is nothing hidden that shall not be brought to light". The Commies and Communist-sympathizers/supporters in the West always tried to diminish/downplay the Victims of Communism. But Truth is slowly getting out, also thanks to the Internet. Nikki Haley on Commie China, continued:

"Indian-American Republican Presidential candidate Nikki Haley said that China is the biggest threat to America since World War II. "Communist China is the greatest threat to American security and prosperity by far," she said. "As president, my top priority will be strengthening America's economy and...military. We'll protect America's prosperity and homeland from Chinese aggression," she added."

https://inshorts.com/en/news/china-is-the-biggest-threat-to-america-since-ww-ii-nikki-haley-1688295043697 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:24, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

China/Taiwan - the Coming War. Within community of security experts, no longer if but when. Most likely by 2027. Prepare

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov comment during Q & A at the Leaders of Russia Management Competition, Moscow, March 19, 2022. [1] NYT journalist Tom Friedman joked, "Grandma always said never fight Russia and China at the same time." [2]

We are in the Great Calm before the Storm. But don't be deceived. The Storm's Coming. Prepare. Don't panic, but prepare. Spiritually, and in every other way. Including by educating and spreading awareness about the Great Evils of Communism, including the 65+ MN dead under the CCP in Mao's time.

Tweets: "Translated from Spanish by Google: "On the possibility of a war, @jmhumir assures that, within the community of security experts, the issue is no longer about if the war between China and the US will happen, but when it will happen" https://twitter.com/AmericanoMedia/status/1674873742797750283

and: "When we talk about China 🇨🇳 #PCC there are three dates that we should all keep in mind:

2049 - Anniversary of the PRC and China wants to dominate the world.

2030 - China wants to be the world economic power.

2027 - China wants to annex Taiwan.

The question is not whether there will be a conflict with China, the question is whether we are prepared to stop them."

https://twitter.com/jmhumire/status/1674903598029783047 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:03, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

China doesn't need to annex Taiwan, it's already part of China. Blinken just said so. [14] RobSGive Peace a chance 22:30, June 30, 2023 (EDT)
This war was originally suppose to happen in 2021, but got cancelled cause of the pandemic, I suppose. Then it was pushed back to 2022; last week we were told 2025, Now it's 2027 cause the globalists and military industrial complex got themselves in a bind in Ukraine, and the original plan was to knock out Russia first. They can't carry out their aggression against China without knocking out Russia first, which will never happen cause Russia will nuke the globalists before that ever happens.
This planned US aggression against China looks more and more like scare tactics, like lockdowns, social distancing, and mask wearing - scare tactics for expanded government surveillance and societal control. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:44, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
The globalists and deep state want people to live in fear, whether it's the pandemic, Russia, China, white supremacists, etc etc etc. It is the source of their power, to get people to beg government for protection. We have not been given a spirit of fear, but of love, power, and a sound mind. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:48, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
Red China has been on the verge of attacking Taiwan for a long time. It's a journalism evergreen. There was more tension in 1996, when China was threatening to nuke Taiwan. Japan is planning a major defense buildup, so time is not necessarily on China's side. PeterKa (talk) 05:21, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
Why is it okay for the US to support Taiwan separatists but Russia can't back Donbas separatists? Oh, and don't gimme this 'Ukraine is a democracy' BS. RobSGive Peace a chance 05:25, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
The options are to be pro-separatist across the board or anti-separatist across the board? That seems rather limiting. PeterKa (talk) 06:39, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
I just have a hard time figuring out if separatists are good guys or bad guys. I note Western propaganda never refers to "US-backed Taiwan separatists" while the US official position recognizes Taiwan as part of China. And it's a little odd, seeing that providing arms to separatists is a violation of Chinese sovereignty and the UN Charter. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:15, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
I mean, I thought Putin was a bad guy cause he provided aid to Donbas, but the US has been doing the same thing to Taiwan for 50 years. RobSGive Peace a chance15:21, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
The real international law is, "the enemy of the my enemy is my friend." As long as China threatens U.S. interests in the South China Sea and elsewhere, Taiwan is America's friend. The legal basis for U.S. policy is the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979 and the "Six Assurances" given by Ronald Reagan in 1982. PeterKa (talk) 09:56, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
Ok, so that is American law; but is it legal under international law to interfere in the domestic affairs of a sovereign nation, China, when the United States officially recognizes Taiwan as part of China? RobSGive Peace a chance 10:02, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
Let's revisit what you said here, "The options are to be pro-separatist across the board or anti-separatist across the board? That seems rather limiting." That was a good observation. "Separatists" evidently is a propaganda term intended to bias the reader against those people labeled as "separatist". For example the Donbas Republics declared independence in early 2014 and were rejected for annexation by the Russian State Duma. The Minsk Accords were negotiated in Feb 2015, and the Donbas Republics rejected separatism agreeing to return to Ukraine, provided they were granted autonomy. In the ensuing years the Kyiv regime failed to implement the agreement and grant them autonomy. The Donbas war persisted (with NATO weapons and training), and Western media called them "separatists". As early as 2015, the people of Donbas could see they were being set-up for NATO aggression, based upon Western media reporting. RobSGive Peace a chance 10:35, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
Side note: Now for those of you asking, "What is autonomy?", it's like the Chechen Republic in the Russian federation. It has its own President, a title equal to Putin's. It agrees to allow Moscow to handle all foreign policy, and Moscow doesn't interfere in its internal affairs. Its legal system is based upon Islamic law, so in matters like abortion or divorce for example, you can expect it to be handled quite differently than it would be in Moscow or St. Peterburg. RobSGive Peace a chance 10:54, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

26 Years since the Hong Kong Handover, the World Learns that the Commie CCP cannot be trusted to keep its Promises

"Twenty-six years ago today, Hong Kong was handed over to China on a promise.

Beijing made the commitment, under an international treaty, to protect Hong Kong’s freedoms, the rule of law, human rights, way of life and autonomy for at least fifty years. Over the past decade, and especially in the past few years, Beijing has completely broken its promises, torn up the treaty and dismantled Hong Kong’s freedoms. It has turned Hong Kong from one of Asia’s most open cities into one of its most repressive police states.

The erosion of Hong Kong’s freedoms began a decade or more ago, but Beijing dealt a hammer-blow to whatever was left of liberty when it imposed a draconian National Security Law on the city, with no debate, no discussion and precious little warning."

From: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/01/twenty-six-years-since-the-hong-kong-handover-china-has-rip/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 07:43, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

It was an open secret that China would break its promises to Hong Kong as soon as it could. Zeng Qinghong tried to impose a national security law in 2003, provoking massive protests. In those days, Hong Kong was more important for China economically than it is now, so Beijing backed down. Not coincidentally, Zeng was Xi Jinping's mentor. Xi's campaign against Hong Kong began in 2012, when he proposed a pro-communist curriculum called "Moral and National Education." PeterKa (talk) 10:14, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
It was a genuine tragedy to sit and watch, as Donald Trump was neutered by the deep state to say or do anything, while those people pleaded for help. RobSGive Peace a chance 10:43, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
A walk down memory lane. The people have spoken RobSGive Peace a chance 11:01, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
In July 2020, Trump signed a law to impose sanctions if China acted against Hong Kong. It was certainly a big deal in Hong Kong. For a few months, it seemed like the crisis was over. From December 2020 to February 2022, the city was under covid lockdown. In May 2021, Hong Kong was caught by surprise when Beijing announced that it would impose a national security law after all. PeterKa (talk) 11:56, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
(a) sanctions don't work, that is one of the lessons of WWII; (b) acting big and tuff ("I'm going to huff, and puff, and blooooww your house down") fails when push comes to shove, and the world sees what a wimp you are. That happened in Hong Kong, and it happened when the US didn't send manpower and blood as it promised to enforce the Budapest Security Memorandum. We've gone from "speak softly and carry a big stick" {like Russia and China do) to "Make threats like a windbag and carry a useless Javelin missile". RobSGive Peace a chance 14:33, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
It's comic tragedy when you hear stuff like "Strategic Ambiguity" when you might as well say "We're only bluffing". RobSGive Peace a chance 14:42, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
All this talk of invasion is a joke, when the CCP learned from the US to do a Maidan-style coup in Taiwan. What? Are US policymakers and the American public that racist that they really believe the Chinese are too stupid to figure that much out? RobSGive Peace a chance 14:47, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
The story of Hong Kong suggests that the Chinese backed off several times for fear of economic consequences and sanctions. I don't think Xi had a plan to take over Hong Kong over the course of ten years. He was thinking that resistance would collapse as soon as he laid down a hard line. Money problems forced Putin to disband the Wagner Group, so sanctions can by given credit for that as well. PeterKa (talk) 22:48, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
In the case of the Wagner group, Russian law prohibits PMCs (private military companies) from operating on Russian territory. (Believe it or not, Russia is a nation of laws). So with the annexation of the Donbas, it became a problem. Wagner group will continue operating in Belarus and Africa eventually under a different name.
Above you stated it was an open secret China would take control. They simply measured the risks and costs against what was to be gained, knowing the US and UK were too weak to do anything about it, and seized the opportunity. And it was done by CCP infiltration into the Hong Kong government. The same thing is happening in Taiwan through the Kuomintang. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:15, July 2, 2023 (EDT)
All the talk of invasion is simply money for the US MIC and its stockholders, paid by the US taxpayer. None of thew weapons will ever be used, and eventually fall into the hands of the PLA. Another Afghan withdrawal scenario. They don't care what happens to the weapons after the US taxpayer gets bilked and the weapons get shipped abroad. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:17, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

"Republican presidential hopeful Ron DeSantis supports revoking China's trade status"

De Santis has Common Sense. Sadly among some others, including former Presidents and Presidential Candidates, who just aren't tough enough on the Commie CCP in China, common sense is a most uncommon virtue these days. De Santis is shining the Light of Truth. China needs to needs to change and become democratic if it wants to retain these privileges, from which it has benefited; and the CCP has used it for Grave Evil.

The US Senate voted in 2000 to grant that status to China as it prepared to join the World Trade Organization. Any step to remove it would also need congressional approval. The status is a legal designation in the United States for free trade with a foreign nation"

https://www.firstpost.com/world/republican-presidential-hopeful-ron-desantis-supports-revoking-chinas-trade-status-12846222.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:02, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

This is a very good and important development. However, it cannot stand alone in isolation. We need names and numbers of US Senators vocalizing the same thing before its ready for MPR. IOWs, follow up by you, the citizen journalist researcher. And the stance is fraught with risks, cause of the accusation of racism. So the public must be brought along and educated step-by-step of the significance and importance of this position.
It likely would take a major precipitating event for the US Senate to cancel the status. We can't just toss off headlines like this without educating the public first of the stakes invovled.
In the old days, Senators defined bipartisanship as being for motherhood and against sin. Headlines that state this or that position of a candidate tell us very little about anything. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:30, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, the people would need to be brought along; some executive action would be possible to kickstart it, but final Congressional approval would probably be needed; will read more about it in the coming days: "I favour doing that. I think we probably need Congress, but I would take executive action as appropriate to be able to move us in that direction," DeSantis said. "We are going to have a new commitment to hard power in the Indo-Pacific. At the end of the day, what China respects is strength," he added." https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/us-republican-candidate-florida-governor-ron-desantis-revoking-china-trade-status-2024-president-election-2404360-2023-07-10 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:45, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

You start here: Most_favored_nation#China.
There's more here and elsewhere in the same article: MAGAnomics#Free_trade_as_a_Cold_War_weapon. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:55, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

African Official Humiliates Kamala

"U.S. vice president went to Zambia, landed on a Chinese-built airport, moved on a Chinese-built road, and spoke in a venue that is China's gift to Zambia and told Zambian people don't work with China." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:42, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

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Supreme Court strikes down affirmative action. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/u-s-supreme-court-strikes-down-affirmative-action/ar-AA1dcM3C --TheNewRight (talk) 10:15, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Also there needs to be a spelling correction, instead of "mayor" it should read "major". Quidam65 (talk) 11:14, June 29, 2023 (EDT)
Thanks.RobSGive Peace a chance 13:17, June 29, 2023 (EDT)
I used the John Solomon link; msn is probably Yahoo news or some other neo-fascist propaganda organ. We need to begin paying attention to to sources and links used. Thanks. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:35, June 30, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you! Also, Supreme Court sides with Christian graphic designer. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-colorado-graphic-designer-who-refused-to-create-same-sex-wedding-websites/ar-AA1dg4M7 --TheNewRight (talk) 10:22, June 30, 2023 (EDT)
What does John Solomon's Just the News or Daily Caller say about it? MSN, Yahoo, and others have little credibility among conservative readers. Thanks. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:16, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

2024 election/Biden updates

If Biden wants to win, he'll win. America certainly has the weapons and the technology. But as we saw in Afghanistan, Biden often prefers to lose. PeterKa (talk) 03:01, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
Looks like Biden's puppet master's will toss him overboard between now and the primaries/convention (in the process Kamala goes, too) and elevate Newsom. 2024 is an Open Seat, they just don't want to announce it. They're trying to give the appearance the GOP side is the only side that's contested. It'll be funny to watch when they toss Biden - they'll have to do to Kamala what they're doing to RFK Jr. now, only for a shorter duration. They have to keep up the appearance of Democrat unity. RobSGive Peace a chance 05:56, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
Biden thinks Afghanistan was a big success (0:36): "All the evidence is coming back to remember what I said about Afghanistan? I said al-Qaeda would not be there. I said it wouldn't be there. I said we get help from the Taliban....I was right."
Remember when Biden used to put on a sad face and claim that Afghanistan was all Trump's fault? Those days are over. Afghanistan is a model. Look at his face! The memory losing a war makes him happy. Ukrainians, he is going to be even happier when you lose. PeterKa (talk) 09:31, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

Biden corruption

With the accession of Romania to NATO, the Biden family became co-owners of Kentucky Fried Chicken franchises in Romania. The multinational corporate conglomerate drove numerous native ethnic Romania mom n pop entrepreneurs, which grew up in Romania since 1991, out of business. This was done under the guise of "capitalism, freedom and democracy" with NATO protecting the multinational corporate conglomerate's financial interests. The same thing is happening in Ukraine. Romanian and Ukrainian entrepreneurs who are victims of this multinational corporate collusion view it as a neo-fascist invasion of their state and loss of sovereignty. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:50, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis outflanks Trump on trans issue

DeSantis's latest ad leans into the gay issue. I don't know what to make of the Brad Pitt clip from the movie Troy. Is this is a reference to the theory that Achilles went on a rampage because Patroclus was his gay lover? Either way, the ad is a tour-de-force. After watching it, I want to get a "Don't say gay" T-shirt. PeterKa (talk) 11:15, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, but is this really a Main page issue? we could all get nuked well before the primaries, convention, or general election. Who's to say our votes will count at all anyway? RobSGive Peace a chance 11:21, July 4, 2023 (EDT)
I expect this video to be a top level news event. There are 24.1 million views already. Then again, I could be wrong. PeterKa (talk) 11:27, July 4, 2023 (EDT)
Ehh, I can't see it. Elon Musk's trouble paying the bills seems like a bigger story for current news. Especially since he's probably gonna have to bail on Twitter by October or give it back to DHS/NSA for surveillance and social media control. RobSGive Peace a chance 11:34, July 4, 2023 (EDT)
I'll try to thumbnail the Musk/Twitter issue as succinctly as possible: whenever you "Like" a tweet, Twitter has to process it in real time to tens and hundreds of thousands of users. Twitter never had the server capacity for that, so the federal government was subsidizing it as part of its domestic surveillance programs. When Musk let Trump back on, that terminated the deal. Now Musk has to pick up the costs. He can't. Twitter will never be financially sound without a US government subsidy. RobSGive Peace a chance 11:44, July 4, 2023 (EDT)
Either way, it appears Twitter will be back in the FBI's hands by October so they can rig another election and re-ban Trump, or maybe ban President DeSantis in 2025 for his transphobic views.
Doesn't seem very democratic to me, that I can't even see a video 24 million of my fellow citizens are seeing right now. RobSGive Peace a chance 11:58, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, thanks for sharing, Peter. Nice video, and I agree with it. It's at 25 MN views now. And I agree with Rob's point also, that Twitter, Social Media, and websites generally, so including Conservapedia, are a big threat to the Radical Left. They will try to clamp down on free speech, because they know they cannot win in a fair and free debate, because Truth will defeat falsehood. But Social Media is playing an important role in getting the Truth out, including on the trans issue and how some in the Radical Left are pushing it too far, for e.g. by wanting to mutilate the genitals of innocent children, or force women to have to accept men in their bathrooms/locker room etc. Exhibit A of why I support De Santis. Thanks for the video. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:05, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Any comment on our lead story headline:
The United States has more political prisoners languishing in prison than Russia and freedom of expression, especially for Christians, is attacked with increasing ferocity by a corporate media eager to shill for the U.S. Government. The U.S. intelligence and military organizations are a woke, hot mess. U.S. military leaders are fixated on promoting transgender degeneracy, routinely failing to meet recruitment goals and destroying the foundation of “uniformity” that is an essential trait of successful armies.
RobSGive Peace a chance 08:30, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Just 3 Words. De Santis 2024. When you support that, I'll know you really want to beat the Woke Left on these issues. Not till then. Watch the 25 MN viewed You Tube Video. Trump didn't defeat the Trans Agenda, he enabled it at every turn. De Santis's Candidacy, and Presidency would be the godsend America needs. As for the godsend Russia needs, it may be Navalny or someone else, but it's extremely unlikely it could be Putin, given his past actions. He's persecuted both Navalny and Nemtsov, beside other Russian leaders. He is bad for Russia. Being Anti-Putin is not being Anti-Russia, otherwise I will say you are Anti-America for being Anti-Biden. I am Anti-Biden, but not Anti-America. I am Anti-Putin, but not Anti-Russia. De Santis 2024, period, to end this woke transgender and child genital mutilation nonsense once and for all. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:02, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

I'd be saying "DeSantis 2024" or "Trump 2024" if there was any evidence that American democracy still exists, but I don't believe in hoaxing tens of millions of American voters with false hope. RobSGive Peace a chance 09:20, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Who left cocaine at the White House?

Honest, it wasn't me. I never go to the White House library. At any rate, I never do blow there. I mean, not that I remember.

There is no part of the White House that isn't under 24-hour surveillance. What about fingerprints and cell phone records? The Secret Service has to know whose cocaine it is. They plan to keep this information secret for as long as possible. Hey, “People walk by there all the time.” Yeah, and sometimes dogs really do eat homework.

In other words, it is Hunter's. No one else on planet Earth has this level of clout. If the coke turns out to be Hunter's, his plea deal will be suspended and he will go to jail. There is nothing that the Biden White House won't do to prevent that from happening. The bookies are treating Hunter as the leading suspect, with odds of +170 compared to +15000 for Joe and +10000 for Jill.

Update: Okay, I think I am off the hook now: "The substance was discovered in the West Wing of the White House in a cubby hole where visitors place their cell phones and other belongings before going on a tour." It was somebody who treated coke as just another thing that you put in a cubby hole before going on a tour. That narrows it down. It also makes it even less likely that the Secret Service doesn't know who it is. PeterKa (talk) 20:15, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

How long ago did Zelensky visit the White house?
Anyway, this story has suspicious parallels to the Democrat IT scandal where Wasserman Schultz's laptop was found in an abandoned House public telephone booth (we'll never get to the bottom of that cause the Capitol Police is not a Executive Branch agency, subject to FOIA).
We can't rule out the possibility it was planted by deep staters to eliminate Biden's chance of surviving a primary challenge. Prosecutions may not be necessary if the MSM is allowed to do its work on public opinion. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:06, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
We're not ready for, Smartest man alive leaves cocaine in White House cubby hole, destroys dad's chances for re-election, developing story. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:13, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
When Joe was nominated in 2020, the media was like, "Don't worry about his age, it will just be for one term." At some point after the election, Jill decided she liked being first lady. Now we have a Hunter-Jill copresidency. PeterKa (talk) 02:46, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Looks like its narrowed down to Joe, Jill, and Hunter. I guess we'll never know: "WH Visitors Go Through 'Multiple Security Checkpoints,' Suggests Cocaine Must Belong to a Biden Member." The more security points, the less secure. PeterKa (talk) 08:27, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
I think it's Anita Dunn running the whole shebang. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:30, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

The Secret Service investigation concludes

Is this even a little bit plausible: "While there’s surveillance around where the bag was found, cameras are not trained directly on the West Wing cubbies near the lower-level entrance where it was discovered, the source said, making it difficult to identify who left the bag behind."[15] PeterKa (talk) 11:21, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, so now we know the Secret Service has a bunch of coke heads in it. Maybe Oswald didn't act alone.... RobSGive Peace a chance 11:54, July 13, 2023 (EDT)
They found marijuana in the White House twice in 2022. PeterKa (talk) 21:42, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

The Atlantic says its time for Joe to go

Check it out: 'Step Aside, Joe Biden': Atlantic Writer Says 80-Year-Old President Has No Business Running for Office' PeterKa (talk) 21:12, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Yep. IMO, he's toast. I said some time ago 2024 was an open seat. The crisis Dems face now is how not to look racist as they dump Kamala for a white boy, Newsom. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:25, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
The solution could be quite simple: Have Joe pull out after a few early primary losses to Newsom and RFK, and it's too late for Kamala to mount a serious effort. Then after California racists in the Democrat party rig the vote between two hometown kids, Newsom and Kamala, the issue's decided fair and square. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:56, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
Alternative scenario: Kamala goes down in the White House cocaine bust, the VP position remains open, and impeachment negotiations between Speaker McCarthy and 17 Dem Senator procced. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:13, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
We live in an age of mass psychosis (not the first time ever). To think Joe Biden could ever get the DNC nomination for 2024 is about as delusional as thinking Ukraine could ever defeat Russia, or that a man could become a woman. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:47, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
  • A week ago, the MSM would have happily sold its firstborn for Biden. Now they sound like disappointed parents. "It’s Seven Grandkids, Mr. President" (Maureen Dowd!, New York Times). This is about Navy Roberts, Hunter's illegitimate daughter. Then there is "When is the optimal time for Biden to drop out of the race?" (The Hill) Ouch!
    So when is the best time for an incumbent president to drop out of the race for reelection? Both Truman in 1952 and Johnson in 1968 dropped out after disappointing results in the New Hampshire primary. In both cases, the New Hampshire result was a pretext, or at least not the whole story. As with Biden, Johnson's health was declining. He died of heart disease in 1973. PeterKa (talk) 17:53, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
God observation. Remember, Biden's a party man, not really an egoist. I think if Anita Dunn and other party bosses go to him and say, "it's time to do the honorable thing," (like the GOP Senators did to Nixon, too) he'll drop out. As to Kamala, they may think they can control her as they did Biden, but then again, maybe not. There certainly is no love lost between her, the White House staff, and the Biden family. So the big problem is to get rid of 'em both at the same time, which is a Truman/LBJ scenario.
So the media's job is to sow disaffection with the public and party loyalists, while still trying to keep RFK down on the farm before they let Newsom out of the gate (kinda of a replay how the GOP party machine brought DeSantis along. But there's still plenty of time). RobSGive Peace a chance 18:42, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
Drip drip drip...Angry Joe Biden Screams at Staffers, Abuses His Aides Behind Closed Doors. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:19, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
Drip drip drip...Biden Is In Trouble: NY Times Writes Hit Piece. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:14, July 10, 2023 (EDT)
With all the yelling, we can call Biden "Old Yeller," according to Axios. The bile that the MSM has been holding down for years is finally coming up. PeterKa (talk) 10:16, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
It's programmed. Somewhere deep in the bowels of the swamp, the deep state politburo made the decision, "My God, this man cannot remain in power". and media attack dogs were given the green light. They already have a chosen successor. Biden will find out, like Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, and Trump learned - what they print doesn't even have to be true. RobSGive Peace a chance 12:44, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Drip drip drip...MSNBC Host Slams Biden Aides for Letting Him Fall Down So Much. It's open season, even on his staff. The Cluster munitions could have the opposite effect of mobilizing the traditional leftwing anti-war movement. RobSGive Peace a chance 11:58, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Drip drip drip...Biden's corruption led to Ukraine's destruction: fmr. Kiev diplomat Andrii Telizhenko. RobSGive Peace a chance 12:03, July 13, 2023 (EDT)
Drip drip drip...Big Donors and Dems Ready To Replace Biden. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:18, July 14, 2023 (EDT)
We all set for a rerun of 1968, with Joe Biden as the sickly Lyndon Johnson and RFK Jr as Eugene McCarthy. Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris are RFK Sr. and Hubert Humphrey. The dominant issue in 1968 was race riots. Hopefully, those don't come back. PeterKa (talk) 07:24, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Very good and insightful analysis. I would say specifically Newsom in the role of HHH once RFK is eliminated (no joke, I wouldn't be surprised to see "extreme measures" taken against RFK Jr or Kamala either, as the stakes are as high or higher today as then, or at least perceived to be so).
Side note: As a kid, I watched this live, wondering who, after having brought the country to chaos and ruin in 5 short years, who he was talking to with those dramatic pauses? Later on I realized it was the New Deal generation, which left me wondering about their capacity to be suckered in with lies. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:35, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Another side note: When LBJ says "President of your country" rather than "President of the United States", he betrays his Confederate "Johnny Reb" roots as he can't bring himself to say, "United States". RobSGive Peace a chance 16:45, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Maybe for us, it's better (unpopular) Biden stays...Telling (talk)
That's what Jake Dreizin says, let the Dems win for another 4 years - it'll lead to the complete self-immolation of Globohomo. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:30, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
... In line that it was radical Obama Nation that pushed the pendulum towards Trump rise...Telling (talk)
Indictment of Dr. Gal Luft: This really is turning into tragi-comedy. Even since the deep state has decided to dump Biden, they indict the whistleblower, not to protect Biden, but to protect from exposure the deep staters who protected and promoted Biden thus far. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:10, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Ambassador/Gov. Haley has raised $34.3 MN - arguably the 3rd Strongest Candidate in the Race, and an Ideal Choice for Vice President

"Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley raised $7.3 million in the second quarter of 2023, her campaign announced Monday.

Haley has raised $15.6 million since launching her run, according to her campaign. Haley’s super PAC, Stand For America Inc., raised $18.7 million this quarter, bringing the total since the campaign launch to $34.3 million." https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4089423-haley-raises-7-3-million-in-second-quarter/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:58, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Doesn't mean much without telling us how much came from donors under $250, and how much from Big Money lobbyists over $250.
Another way to figure it is to take the $34 million and divide by the reported number of donors. But even that's old school, cause it doesn't account for dark money. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:09, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
DeSantis Fires a Dozen Staffers as Campaign Payroll Burn Rate Nears 30%, Meanwhile Two-Thirds of All Campaign Funds Come from Big Donors, 15% from Small Donors. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:26, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
Three Surprises About GOP Candidate Fundraising as They Prepare for Next Quarter. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:00, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
Summary: Here's the globalist donor's strategy: to siphon off early donations to the Trump campaign by funding a bunch of losers (DeSantis, Haley, Scott) and leave Trump with less cash on hand come the primary season in January 2024. No report yet on how well the globalist donors are doing against RFK Jr and Cornel West. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:07, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
From the report: "Ron DeSantis Is PAC Driven: This shouldn't have been a surprise to me if I had been paying closer attention. It was announced that he had raised $150 million and sadly I didn't pay attention to the story. Now that I see only $20 million came to his campaign directly, it's far less impressive that he raised so much from mega-donors to his PAC. Don't get me wrong. $20 million is still very impressive, but it's not like he's blowing away the competition with small donors. He's being propped up heavily by his PAC, which isn't a good sign for his prospects."
RobSGive Peace a Chance!


DeSantis & Haley are sponsored by Big Money globalists to muddy the waters of the stream in advance of the Maga movement. Wanna hear something really funny? listen to Haley and DeSantis talk about globalism and globalists. Both are paid-for shills of the military industrial complex warmongers. Integrity, character, and principles don't enter in. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:15, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

As opposed to Trump, who has bragged about fornication and adultery, and molesting the genitals of multiple women - that too in a very vulgar way? Pls, Trump was a worldling through and through, you remember the Access Hollywood tapes, right? Only those who themselves use vulgarities all the time can't see it, since we live in a liberal/worldly culture. Yes, he became more Conservative as time went by, and as he surrounded himself with Christians etc. Now, he is regressing, and going back to some of his former ways. His weakness on the Woke Issue, Vaccine Issue etc are examples. De Santis, Haley et al have criticized the globalists at the WEF, not to mention Fauci etc, multiple times. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 07:30, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

The election betting markets indicate that Donald Trump has 66.3% chance of winning the Republican primary while Nicky Haley has a 3.1% chance of winning the GOP primary.[16]
Trump's odds of winning the presidency has gone up about 10% points in the last 3 days according to the political betting markets.[17] Trump's odds of winning the presidency have gone up A LOT in 2023 according to the political betting markets.[18]
As a former Catholic, I am guessing you might be praying to St. Jude for Nickey Haley to win the GOP primary and USA presidency. After all, St. Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes and desperate situations.
By the way, according to the political betting markets, DeSantis odds of winning the GOP has been dropping like a rock in 2023.[19]
Your Ukraine cheerleading is a lost cause too. In the war in Ukraine, Ukraine/West has been reduced to soon using cluster bombs due to them soon running out of other more conventional munitions. And if the USA economy worsens (Or knowledge of Biden scandals significantly increases or Biden's deteriorating health gets much worse), Ukraine may face a GOP president who is less favorable to supplying the Ukrainians with arms. Zelinksky/Ukraine should have honored the Minsk Agreements and not done things to provoke Russia. When you are in a cage with a 600 pound gorilla (Russia is a much bigger country with more resources than Ukraine), you don't do things to provoke him. Conservative (talk) 08:20, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
"As a former Catholic" If you reject Roman Catholicism, why do you uphold the false Sunday Sabbath boasted by the Papacy as its mark of authority? At the Council of Trent, the Protestants failed because they were criticized as inconsistent, extolling Sola Scriptura yet refusing to exhort Sabbath observance over the papal doctrine of "Christianized" Sunday worship. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 14:17, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Globalists Want Anyone But Trump And Their Slate of Candidates Proves It. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:51, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
"white non-college voters exhibit the strongest desire to reinstate the policies of the Trump Administration, with a striking 91% considering it important. In contrast, 75% of college-educated whites share the same viewpoint."
Trump is actually expanding his appeal among voters, taking in more young people and Democrats at the expense of Democrats. Brainwashed renegade Republican Nevertrumpers who are slaves to globalists and globalism will come home eventually. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:59, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
How Ron DeSantis Appropriated MILLIONS of Dollars from Trump Supporters to Attack MAGA. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:40, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Predictable: the devil is nearly complete using the thesis, the pro-Ukronazi globalist left, to incite a mass populist revolt which will throw control to the antithesis, aka the syncretic antiwar coalition. And out of that antithesis will the "right-wing" populists, being the antichrists of our time, enact the mark of the beast. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 14:21, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
One flaw: "the pro-Ukronazi globalist" is a bipartisan coalition. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:27, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Okay, fair enough: the thesis is the "old" globalist establishment of neocons on the "right" and typical elitist leftists. The point here is that Satan merely uses both sides, the globalist order and the anti-establishment populists, as puppets: the former is brought to power with all its evils on full display to swing the pendulum hard towards the latter, which will install the final Luciferian, Gnostic beast system. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 14:30, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
The main reason I made the above post is that Niki Haley is an advocate of the West making Ukraine a member of NATO right now which is a crazy position. Not only would it further risk WWIII, but it would lengthen this war considerably.
Secondarily, Haley has a snowball's chance of hell of winning the GOP nomination. User:NishantXavier should put more focus on things that Conservapedia can help change. When I joined Conservapedia, I did so with the intention of helping to kill off the atheist movement. The atheist movement is dead (See: Decline of the atheist movement) and I strongly suspect that there will be no resurrection of it. And since the spark that ignited the schism within atheism was Elevatorgate that later developed into many more schisms within Western atheism (See: Atheist factions), one could argue due to various reasons, that Conservapedia did help speed up the demise of the atheist movement (See: Conservapedia helped cause the atheist movement to die on the information superhighway). Mission accomplished! Olé! Olé! Olé! Conservative (talk) 16:18, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
I think Haley's running for DeSantis' VP. She's a crossbreed of Dick Cheney (and VP Biden) as the "foreign policy expert" and Kamala Harris, the twit with zero chance to win the top of the ticket, but represents an oppressed group. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:38, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

I predicted Sweden would join NATO as member 32 by the end of this year, and that now seems very likely, given that Turkey's approved. I'm not predicting anything here just yet; though, if I were forced to, I think it's quite possible, the last 3 GOP Candidates left standing after the Initial Primaries will in fact be Trump, De Santis and Haley - and from there it's anyone's game. But yes, I do think De Santis/Haley as VP would be a Good Ticket for the Republicans, and a winning one, unlike Trump who'll probably lose to Biden. I'm not a Never Trumper, I supported him last time around, as my earlier posts at Conservapedia will show. Both in '16 and '20 I supported him in fact. But many factors since then have caused me to change my mind; he's still better than Biden for sure, but he's not by any means the strongest Pro-Life, Anti-Woke, Good Governance Candidate in the race - not by a long shot. Trump increased the debt by 8 TN, if I need to remind you of that, whereas both De Santis and Nikky Haley have Good Governance Records in the States where they served as Governor. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:01, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis called the war in Ukraine a "territorial dispute" to express lukewarm support for Ukraine which he later walked back.[20]
DeSantis formerly said: "While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis wrote, echoing how Russia has characterized its ongoing invasion."[21]
On Ukraine, DeSantis puts his finger up in the air to see which way the political winds are blowing and then calibrates his response. Conservative (talk) 20:44, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
So the military industrial complex picks up a new customer in Sweden.
Typically, the first primaries winnows the field down to three, for about a week, and two candidates after the next primary.
If you haven't been reading the news, the knives are out for Biden. As I've said for probably a year already, 2024 is an open seat. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:45, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

De Santis is also a Former Soldier/Veteran who has Combat Experience and has also supported Ukraine in the past. De Santis knows he has to jump through a few hoops on the Ukraine issue; he should read the polls and the majority that support arming Ukraine and Taiwan: "Solid majorities of Americans support providing weaponry to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia and believe that such aid demonstrates to China and other U.S. rivals a will to protect U.S. interests and allies, according to a Reuters/Ipsos survey. The two-day poll that was concluded on Tuesday charted a sharp rise in backing for arming Ukraine, with 65% of the respondents approving of the shipments compared with 46% in a May poll." https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/ This is a very small portion of the US Military Budget, and it greatly advances Us Interests in the region. Yes, I agree all NATO Allies, including European Countries, and Asian Countries too as and when they join, should spend the same proportionate amount of GDP, be it 2% or 2.5% or 3% as is now being talked about, on Military Spending. When the Good Guys are strong, the bad guys. When the bad guys are, the good guys have to fear. And to Rob: in 2016, it was only around March, that there were just 3 candidates left in the race. Finally, around May, Trump won at that time, and Cruz dropped out. Let's see how it goes, a lot will depend on the Campaigns and also the Debates. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:44, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Nobody believes that rot anymore. You're about the only one left, not on the MIC payroll, who does. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:09, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

In 2015, after Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea in Ukraine, De Santis said: "We in the Congress have been urging the president, I've been, to provide arms to Ukraine," DeSantis said in 2015." De Santis holds the classic Peace through Strength position of Reagan imo, although I admit foreign policy is his weakest link. That's also part of why I think Nikki Haley would be his Ideal VP, as that's her strength. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:45, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, and the US 2014 illegal overthrow of Ukrainian democracy is the 'rules based order'. Ok. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:11, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

As for asking Saint Jude's Intercession, that's a Good Idea, lol, though I haven't done it just yet. I have been Praying in general, though. These are dark times and only prayer can give light and strength and cause good to prevail. Btw, the Bible reveals, in Rev 5 and Rev 6, that the Saints in Heaven pray to God, so we can certainly request their Prayers: "8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints." and "10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" (Rev 5:8; 6:10). LT should read these verses too, for they refute the SDA position on Saints. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:48, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Haley is not a natural-born citizen, and thus is not qualified to be president under the U.S. Constitution. Celebrities, athletes, rap musicians, politicians from JFK and LBJ on down, and many others engage in fantasy-type talk routinely and I doubt the so-called Hollywood Tapes changed single vote. Even preachers tell off-color jokes privately.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:07, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Stoltenberg. Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.

Hi Andy. Well, first time I'm hearing that. Not an expert on that, so I'll have to defer to those who are. When I looked it up, I found this: "In the interim, to the question, “Does Nikki Haley qualify as a natural born citizen?”, the answer is a qualified yes!"[22] I don't know. Let me research it further.

As for bad language, Saint Paul says this: "29 Do not let unwholesome [foul, profane, worthless, vulgar] words ever come out of your mouth, but only such speech as is good for building up others, according to the need and the occasion, so that it will be a blessing to those who hear [you speak]." [Eph 4:29, Amp.] Imo, speaking about molesting multiple women goes beyond just mere bad language, and is hardly compatible with Christ's exhortations to be Pure of Heart and not look at a woman with lust etc, let alone multiple women. Look, I agree Trump did good things last time, including appointing Amy Barrett, Pro-Life Catholic and Mother of 7, which I strongly supported and highly commended at the time. Trump did good things in his first 4 year term. That doesn't automatically mean he's the best candidate running this time around imo. That's all. God Bless, Andy. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:17, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

What about that neo-Nazi warmonger Joe Biden who started this whole mess? Are you saying cause the MSM doesn't report it, facts never happened? RobSGive Peace a chance 22:25, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, Biden is in deadly/mortal sin, deprived of the Grace of God, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, not only for this or that, but for his active support of Abortion-killing, the Woke-Agenda etc. I think we all agree that goes without saying on Conservapedia, because, whatever our theological convictions, we mostly agree on that! The question is not whether Biden is evil or not, we all know he is. The issue is who's the best candidate to beat Biden, or whoever else it is the dems may choose in 2024. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:54, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

And what about Zelensky? Do I need to list some of his crimes and sins? RobSGive Peace a chance 22:58, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Like what? Defending his Country instead of running away to personal safety? That's not a crime or a sin, that's a virtue and a merit. Wouldn't you defend your Country if it was invaded? What about Putin's sins, unjustly invading his neighboring country? If America invaded Mexico, would that be a Just War? Or if Europe invaded Ukraine - let's say because Ukraine was negotiating with Russia and considering freely joining it, like Ukraine is negotiating with Europe and now considering freely joining NATO - would that be a Just War? NishantXavierFor Christ the King 23:07, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Let's begin with 40,000 dead at Bakhmut when his top General told him not to do it. But he kept feeding 40,000 lives into the meatgrinder to impress Biden and Lloyd Austin, and to keep the money flowing from Washington.
If I were president of an allegedly "sovereign" state, Joe Biden and Llyod Austin would be probably the last people I'd try to impress (next to Charlie Manson and the Unibomber) or to take other people's money, which is not Biden and Austin's own, to fuel my corrupt regime. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:54, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Now, you can say, "Oh, I didn't know that. I was too busy filling my head with MSM crap." That's nothing more than what the bible calls human pride, trying to make yourself feel intelligent and informed. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:43, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Just created the Just War page for Conservapedia seeing as it didn't exist till now. Just War is a famous Judeo-Christian Moral Theory. St. Thomas and St. Augustine have written about it, and so has the Catechism of the Catholic Church in recent times. Some secular Encyclopedias mention it too. Basically, Christ tells us forgive, and love, and be peaceful and so on, but in the OT, it is clear, in at least some circumstances, some Wars can be justified. The question and challenge of Just War Moral Theory then is to precisely delineate said conditions from a Biblical and Moral Perspective. Just War Theory is accepted and defended by some Christians and some secular people also. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 23:13, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Good luck with that. If you think you're going to promote Nazi propaganda to attack Vladimir Putin and Russia while ignoring the Vietnam war, the Kosovo war, the Iraq war, the Libyan war, and the Syrian war, don't waste your time. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:09, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

That's all you got? Bakhmut? Pathetic. If that's the case, then Putin is guilty of far greater War Crimes, because he sent 100,000 Russian Soldiers to their deaths trying to invade and take Bakhmut: "Russia has exhausted its military stockpiles and its armed forces. Since December alone, we estimate that Russia has suffered more than 100,000 casualties, including more than 20,000 killed in battle, almost half of whom were Wagner Group soldiers." https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/1/7400235/ Putin is responsible for every death in this War on either side. Your argument is like saying the Allied Soldiers who beat the Nazis are also sinners because some of them died. Hitler is responsible for every death on either side, because his invasion was responsible for it. Putin should retreat and go back home.

Just War Theory does not distinguish between America and Russia, or East and West, in any of its conditions. Pope St. John Paul II opposed the Iraq War also, and sent Cardinals to President Bush to tell him not to do it; if the President had listened to it, that War need never have happened. But ultimately they learnt through hard experience the Pope was right; and then they packed up and went home. Russia needs to do the same, just like it also did in Afghanistan, and that was after 10 years, and yet they suffered far fewer casualties in that War than they already have in Ukraine, 1.5 years after Putin's Unjust Invasion, that blatantly completely violates Just War Conditions. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 07:47, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

You got your head up the MSM propaganda sewer, which has absolutely nothing to do with Just War Theory, and cannot be used as a source. RobSGive Peace a chance 07:59, July 13, 2023 (EDT)
Gen. Zaluzhny told Zelensky not to follow Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Austin, Milley, and Stoltenberg's orders. Zaluzhny told Zelensky there was nothing to be gained, and feeding men into the meatgrinder was suicidal for the nation. Zelensky supposedly is the head of a "sovereign state". He did not exercise those duties entrusted to him. He issued Hitleresque orders, ordering men to stand and die for a lost cause. May God have mercy on him.
Now, why? Cause Putin is evil? Sorry, you need to search your own moral conscience if you're going to speak out on these issues. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:08, July 13, 2023 (EDT)
But Zelensky chose to listen to people like Lindsey Graham. Why? RobSGive Peace a chance 08:10, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Biden: Russia should stop attacking Russia

The scary thing is, he actually believes it. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:45, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

How The Uniparty Seeks To Destroy The America First Agenda

The wisdom of Terrence K. Williams. [23] RobSGive Peace a chance 15:11, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine discussion between Tucker Carlson and Mike Pence gets HEATED

Pence peddles Nazi propaganda. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:18, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Here's the full interview on You Tube: https://youtu.be/cC86peIh_Ys It's an important issue and Conservatives must debate it and try to arrive at a Consensus. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:27, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

What's there to debate? Supporting Nazis? Is Ukraine a democracy? Is Ukraine even sovereign? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:14, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Ok, let's start with this: America and all NATO countries combined have a total GDP of nearly 40 Trillion. Russia, under 2 Trillion. Therefore, Russia cannot win this fight. It really is very simple, and this War will end when Russia, like the US, retreated from Afghanistan and went back home when they realized they couldn't win. A less than 2 TN Economy simply cannot outlast a combined economy of 40 TN.

[removed an earlier comment of mine as it was unnecessarily harsh. I do think the fuller context paints a different picture here though] NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:45, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Tucker Carlson interviews De Santis

Man, this guy knows everything about everything. Listen to him talk on Abortion, criticize "Climate Change", some ESG stuff, Transgender Ideology, Commie China, and much else too. A real policy wonk and sound administrator.

https://youtu.be/9j7YSqM5DBk `NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:02, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Gov. Haley: Biden is asleep at the wheel on China

https://youtu.be/w-Y-whrXmk0 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 06:47, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Tucker Carlson Leaves Nikki Haley Speechless on Subject of Nordstream Pipeline. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:02, July 15, 2023 (EDT)
The Biden family was bribed by the Chinese government.[24][25] Saying he is asleep at the wheel on China is missing the main issue. It's another example of a Republican being weak and sugar coating things. Conservative (talk) 15:25, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Nice excerpt from Tucker Carlson. Have to agree with him on this one, the evidence suggests the Nordstream Pipeline was blown up by the American Deep State. Biden is clearly a clueless puppet of the Deep State. Cons, I agree with your point also, so far as Biden being controlled by Commie China is concerned; but I don't consider Haley weak on either Commie China or Biden, who she's criticized plenty of times with substance. It's still fairly early, but I think, it will be Trump/De Santis/Haley and Pence who'll emerge as the four strongest candidates. Pence'll probably fade away soon as he's rather weak. Haley I wouldn't call that weak, but I'll admit she's weaker than De Santis. Although not on China, China she understands very well. The Hunter Biden thing etc shows the whole Biden family is compromised. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:28, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

2 + 2 will never equal 5; there's something wrong with you basic logic and reasoning. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:18, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Found the video. Always better to watch in context: https://youtu.be/M1dj7mgbYRM NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:33, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

After Geraldine Ferraro, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, there is a smaller appetite for a woman president or vice-president in the USA. They were all miserable failures either as candidates and/or office holders that dragged down their party (At the same time, I am guessing the Sarah Palin may have done a good job as governor of Alaska). So I think Nikki Haley is being dragged down due to this matter. Also, due to a series of forever wars, the USA is sick of hawks when it comes to foreign policy so getting someone elected like Nikki Haley is an uphill battle. Conservative (talk) 05:38, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
P.S. “I’d like to thank my husband for allowing me to speak here tonight.” - Phyllis Schlafly.[26] :) Conservative (talk) 05:47, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

First GOP Debate: Who's in, who's banned, who's boycotting

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/first-republican-debate-2024-who-qualified-boycotting.html

"Trump has openly observed that given his current lead, he has little to gain and much to lose from participating. He did skip one debate in 2016 because he was feuding then with the moderator, Fox News’ Megyn Kelly; now he’s feuding with the entire network. His absence would frustrate the plans of several rivals, notably Chris Christie, and might lead some candidates to instead go after his most dangerous opponent, Ron DeSantis. My guess is he’ll skip debates so long as he has a 30-point lead." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 13:59, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

It would be a shame if former President Trump does indeed skip the debates, though it's now looking increasingly likely that he will; nevertheless, if he does, my guess is the other Candidates will do just fine without him. As for Ron De Santis, he's a Big Boy and can take care of himself, and easily handle/parry attacks from Christie or others; Rubio couldn't earlier, that's true, but Ron De Santis surely will.

Let's see if Trump shows up or not. De Santis will play the long game: "DeSantis is still at 20.9 percent in the RCP polling averages, and is at least in double digits everywhere." He also needs to drum up support, reaching out e.g. to Catholic and Evangelical, Pro-Life, Anti-Woke Leaders etc. De Santis is a very strong traditional Conservative Candidate, he checks all the boxes; he just has to do the hard work now. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 13:59, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Biden did miserable in Democrat debates. Remember when Kamala handed him his head? The parties will nominate who they want - regardless who the voters want.
Debates are for people who haven't made up their mind. Why would it be of interest to you? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:59, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Because it's Important for me that Christianity and Good Morality, which is from God, triumphs over Wokism, which is from Satan, in America. You can't have a flag that celebrates sodomy and forced genital mutilation - even puberty blockers have some bad permanent effects, Megyn Kelly shared - flying on the White House without terribly offending an Infinitely Holy Almighty God. I want the Cross of Christ and the American Flag on the White House, and not the false idolatrous sinful flag of a Leftist Wokist False Religion celebrating sinful sex acts like sodomy and extremely harmful practices dangerous to both body and soul like Genital Mutilation, which also do some permanent and irreversible damage. That's why I want Gov De Santis to win and am praying and working that he does well. He obviously isn't paying me or anything, lol, I do it for free for him out of conviction. God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:14, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Wait wait wait...I thought Jens Stoltenberg was on the good guys side....
That which is flesh is flesh, that which is spirit is spirit RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:06, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Megan Kelly praises Gov Ron De Santis for his Powerful Stance on the Anti-Woke Stance

Extremely Powerful. Have to say, Megyn Kelly herself is doing an Amazing Job fighting the Woke Agenda. God Bless her. She thinks Trump will probably win, but she supports De Santis' Policies on this issue and wants other Republicans to be as clear as him. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:19, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

https://youtu.be/MvAk0y-2pmk NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:12, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Fox News Interview - De Santis: I don't do insults

What a Classy Governor. The Governor points out that, contrary to the media narrative, (see 1 to 2 mins), 5.5 weeks in the 2nd quarter, he raised more money than either Biden or Trump did. De Santis has a broad base of support. He's not going anywhere and is going to win imo.

Video: https://youtu.be/2UN4KxbkBJA NishantXavierFor Christ the King 00:38, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

Florida governor and 2024 Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis has reduced campaign staff as his campaign has struggled to meet fundraising goals.[27]
He is better off running in 2028. Since Trump was a big help in getting him elected, DeSantis running in 2024 is seen by many as ingratitude and disloyalty. Conservative (talk) 08:10, July 17, 2023 (EDT)
I think Special Counsel Jack Smith will have something to say about Trump running in 2024, and who the Republican nominee will be. Biden needs a pretext to drop out. If he can force Trump out of the race, he can say he did what he set out to accomplish. PeterKa (talk) 20:14, July 17, 2023 (EDT)
With all the Joe Biden top secret documents mishandled and all the bribery by foreign governments to Joe Biden, is Joe Biden running for president to the bitter end to delay or avoid being prosecuted? With all the Joe Biden top secret documents mishandled does Joe Biden and the Democrats have the chutzpah to prosecute Donald Trump regarding his handling of top secret documents? Will Joe Biden pardon his family members of crimes? Does the GOP has the chuzpah to impeach Joe Biden, Merrick Garland and Alejandro Mayorkas? We shall see what time will reveal. Conservative (talk) 20:26, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

Al Jazeera: Most Swedes want ban on Quran burnings

I actually agree with this. There's no reason to burn the Quran and alienate 2 BN Muslims in doing so, especially when the West increasingly needs the support of Muslim Countries like Turkey, not to mention the Arab World. One can criticize or disagree with the Quran without doing this. Careless and imprudent on the part of the Swedes to allow such things, which could delay their accession to NATO. Hopefully, it won't, and they will realize they shouldn't, but still. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/6/most-swedes-want-ban-on-quran-burnings-after-global-outcry

"Most Swedes want ban on Quran burnings after global outcry Opinion is shifting amid an international political fallout over the burnings and a spike in new applications." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:21, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

It's an interesting issue, and certainly a few years ago we would have taken much time to explore all aspects of it. But it's taken a backseat now to the pressing issues of our time, and is probably viewed as appeasement by many of the European Union's vaunted "free speech" values. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:59, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

I would be in favor of a Christian-Muslim Alliance against Godless Communism, especially because for e.g. even Muslims, like the Uyghur Muslims, along with Christians, are persecuted by the Commie CCP and Xi in China. As we spread awareness of that and help educate the Muslim World, it's quite conceivable they would draw closer to Christendom and the West. Then, we can educate them on the religious issues as well: btw, they already believe Jesus Christ was a Great Prophet, Worked Miracles, was the True Messiah, and even Virgin Born of His Blessed Virgin Mother Mary. They don't of course believe He's the Son of God, or died on the Cross, and that we have to show historically and logically. Dr. William Craig has some good apologetics on that. Anyway, needlessly alienating the Muslim world, and it was probably some atheists in Sweden who burnt the Quran, is self-defeating and shortsighted imo. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:07, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Wow. You sure are into warmongering. My kingdom is not of this world. To be carnally minded is death. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:12, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Lol. Another false accusation. I am a Raeganite and believe in Peace through Strength. Blessed are the Peace-Makers, as Jesus Christ said. As Communism in the Soviet Union fell peacefully, with sufficient Peace throught Strength, and Global Alliances, so it can in China too. Everyone benefits, including the good Chinese people, except only the Commie CCP itself. If you want to support the CCP, go for it. But I don't, and it's hardly Conservative to do so. You should listen to De Santis, Nikki Haley, or someone who gets it, speak about the CCP. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:31, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Being concerned about Persecuted Christians and Muslims is not "warmongering". The CCP is doing that by persecuting Christians and Muslims. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:35, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Hey, didn't you just post the other day something about how Reagan violated international law and told ICJ to flip off? Now you're screaming for justice from the ICJ? Seems a little confused or hypocritical. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:51, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Nope, I don't think that was me. Maybe you confused me with someone else? The only recent article I remember sharing on the ICJ is Uk, Ukraine etc taking Iran to the ICJ over its downing of a civlian airplane. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:59, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

It's at Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Ukraine.2C_UK_etc_go_to_the_ICJ_to_hold_Iran_accountable_for_killing_civilians_and_shooting_down_a_civilian_airplane. We generally don't use neo-fascist propaganda on main page news. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:03, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, I know it's there, and that's fine; but there was no mention of Raegan in the article as I recall. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:07, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

"After the court ruled that the United States's covert war against Nicaragua was in violation of international law (Nicaragua v. United States), the United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction in 1986 [Reagan era, see Iran Contra ] to accept the court's jurisdiction only on a discretionary basis.[12] RobSGive Peace a chance 22:04, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
"If you want to support the CCP, go for it." You should read the substance of Conservapedia's China, Peoples Republic of China, Communist Party of China, and Communism articles. Not to mention Peoples Liberation Army and few others. All these articles are more than 90% written by me. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:55, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Good to hear. I'll take a look. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:01, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Well, just the intro is off to a great start. Haven't checked the logs yet, did you write that? "The Chinese Communist Party (pinyin Gongchandang) or CCP, officially the Communist Party of China (CPC), is the left-wing single party socialist ruling regime of Peoples Republic of China (PRC). The party is infamous for placing no value on human life and its ruthlessness to maintain and exercise power. According to the authoritative Black Book of Communism, an estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of the CCP's merciless attempts to create a new “socialist” China. Anyone who gets in the way is done away with by execution, imprisonment or forced famine. No single individual of the CCP has ever faced an international tribunal for crimes against humanity." That's pretty much exactly my perspective too, so not sure why you'd oppose applying Raeganite-John Paul II style- Peace through Strength against the Commie CCP. Just like bringing down Communism in the Soviet Union helped the Russian people, bringing down Communism in China will help the Chinese people, not just Christians and Muslims, but also other innocent victims of Communism. Pathetic, Carterite style liberal appeasement, however, will not. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:05, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

I stand by every word of it. However, given the damage the neo-fascist Biden junta has done to American foreign policy for the coming decades, I may be forced into moderating somewhat my stance toward the CCP after NATO gets its butt kicked in Ukraine and the Russian victory. RobSGive Peace a chance 19::15, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

"Years after leaving office, while writing a book about leaders (my personal favorite of all his writings), he reviewed the concept of DÉTENTE in light of the failed policies of Jimmy Carter and the increasingly successful ones of Ronald Reagan. “LEADERS: Profiles and Reminiscences of Men Who Have Shaped the Modern World” was written in 1982 ... President Carter, with the best of intentions, tried unilateral restraint in the hopes that the Soviets would follow suit. The result was disastrous. As he cut back on American arms programs, the Soviets stepped up theirs. Consequently, President Reagan has had to institute an arms buildup to restore the nuclear balance of power.

There are two kinds of détente: hard-headed and soft-headed. Hard-headed détente is based on effective deterrence. This kind of détente encourages the Soviets to negotiate, because it makes the cost of Soviet aggression too high. Soft-headed détente, by contrast, discourages negotiation, because it makes the cost of Soviet expansion so low that the Soviets find the rewards of aggression too tempting. Hard-headed détente, backed by the force to make deterrence credible, preserves peace. Soft-headed détente invites either war or surrender without war. We need detente, but it must be the right kind of détente.” We need the same against the Commie CCP today. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:05, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) Look at Carter Doctrine, I wrote that too. I started that same page title in Wikipedia about 2004, but haven't looked to see how butchered its been since. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:15, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Above from: https://www.nixonfoundation.org/2008/06/appeasement-and-detente-two-very-different-things/ See how, 40 years later, the World is re-learning the same lessons once more, which Peace through Strength Raeganite Conservatives already knew. Truly, those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Truer words were hardly ever spoken. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:09, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Well, so much for my lifelong dream of burning a Koran by the side of a Swedish fjord. 😥 Update From the article, it seems that Turkey may no longer be able to veto Koran burnings after Sweden joins NATO. So there is still hope. PeterKa (talk) 21:55, July 7, 2023 (EDT)
NATO doesn't care about free speech, democracy, and human rights or "European values"; as soon as NATO lets in the racist Kyiv regime which banned the Russian language, that's all you need to know. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:48, July 8, 2023 (EDT)
I wasn't thinking about free speech, just a little humor to "own the libs." Back in 2016, Trump's Muslim ban had them all hepped up. Is there any issue less likely to win over middle America than bringing in more Muslims? PeterKa (talk) 07:43, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Things are changing; Muslims are the only group that can stand up to LGBT school boards without FBI harassment. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:02, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
The most powerful - Libs of TikTok (and others) is not Muslim...'nuf said. Any peace between groups is good. It's just that CAIR and such, cynically abuse it for harm.Telling (talk)

'Peace Through Strength'

IMO, you are making a bad comparison between the Soviet Union and modern Communist China.

Reagan was able to spend the USSR out of existence cause it was in terrible economic shape after 40 years of no trade with the West, and its continued defense spending as a percent of GDP at World War II levels (at that time, China was not the economic powerhouse it is today that could make up the difference in loss of trade from the West). Modern China, OTW -- its defense spending is fueled by Wal Mart customers in the United States.

Pity the poor Wal Mart customer; all the profits from Chinese made goods sold at Wal Mart are translated into Chinese military spending, which then the Wal Mart shopper has to pay higher taxes and inflation to feed the American military industrial complex to compete with the Chinese military. He's getting it in both ends.

Trump had the right idea in imposing tariffs, and you saw the resistance that met. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:22, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

There never was a peace treaty after World War II (well, there was the Nuremberg Tribunal, the UN Charter, and much later the 1976 Helsinki Accords, but never a formal treaty). After 1945, the Soviet Union never stopped fighting fascism from the West. The Anti-Comintern Pact and Angelo-American alliance (Atlantic Charter) reorganized itself and merged into NATO beginning in 1947.
In 1941, the Soviet Union was on its knees when the Germans invaded; by 1945 its economy and industrial output was fully mobilized for war, and it never looked back. The Soviet economy never did a "peacetime transition" after WWII. By the late 1950s and 1960s it did produce a few cars, TV sets, and refrigerators as rewards for party members and "hero workers" in an non-incentivized capitalist economy, but its domestic consumer market was always plagued by shortages up to the very end (compare that to modern China). By 1989, the Soviet Union's chief export was still the AK-47. RobSGive Peace a chance 07:11, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

So it was the Soviet Union's overspending on defense that didn't leave any room for increase when Reagan challenged it to expand further after 1981. RobSGive Peace a chance 07:20, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Communist China led by the Commie CCP is worse and a more Evil Empire than even the evil Communist Soviet Union was. Those who don't see this, and are Comsymps, Communist-appeasers and Communist-enablers, will be the first to suffer from their folly if Communism actually prevails. We who do will follow the Noble Path of Pro-Life Christians and Devout Anti-Communists Pope St. John Paul II and President Reagan. Down with Communism! No Compromise. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:08, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

That's all true, and more than true. The PRC is way bigger and more powerful than the USSR & Third Reich combined. Whether the PRC is a threat to sovereign states, is another matter (and no, Taiwan is not a "sovereign state" as Western propaganda would have you believe). Our first priority is to terminate and put to shame the Russophobic bigots who began this insane war against Christian Russia and drove Russia into alliance with China (what did they expect Russian sanctions to do otherwise?). That won't be undone in two years or with the election of this or that president or Congress. It may take decades. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:12, July 9, 2023 (EDT)
Nixon imposed price controls as an anti-inflation measure in August 1971. They made him extremely popular and got him reelected by an enormous margin. Most price controls were dropped as soon as Nixon was safely reelected. But the ones on oil continued. U.S. price controls obviously didn't cover the international price, but they did make domestic production less profitable. That turned the Soviet Union into an oil superpower. High energy prices were a factor in the collapse of South Vietnam in 1975. Reagan lifted the price controls on oil when he entered office in 1981. Newsom in California just adopted oil price controls, so we may be headed down the same road again. PeterKa (talk) 01:09, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
The Soviet Union didn't sell much oil abroad until the 1990s, for a variety of factors. RobSGive Peace a chance 07:04, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
In the early 1980s, oil was one-third of Soviet exports. That's lower than I thought, but certainly quite significant. PeterKa (talk) 09:52, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
That was to Comecon states (Eastern bloc or 'iron curtain' countries). The USSR was never a member or the WTO of IMF. The one-third figure is suspect, given Soviet official records were all faked.
The principal recipients of Russian oil were East Germany, Poland, Hungary, and Cuba, mostly sold at a loss. There wasn't widespread vehicle ownership in these countries.
One needs to look at the volume of oil production, not just export. The Soviet oil industry was drilling with 1930s technology, and lacked modern technological upgrades. The Soviets didn't even know the size of its reserves; it wasn't until after the collapse of the USSR that oil prospectors could enter Russia and assess. With the discovery of North Slope oil in Alaska in the 1970s it was speculated that the USSR might have vast reserves on its Arctic shoreline, and was only confirmed decades later. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:06, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
The Wikipedia article on the 1986 Reykjavik Summit says this: Reagan "also promised to share SDI technology, a promise which Gorbachev said he doubted would be fulfilled, as the Americans would not even share oil-drilling technology." Had the US shared oil drilling technology prior to the end of the Cold War, and the USSR allowed to sell oil to IMF member states, the USSR might possibly been able to compete with the Reagan defense buildup. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:34, July 11, 2023 (EDT)
Put succinctly, the Cold War was one big, gigantic Russia sanctions package throughout its entirety, embargoing the Soviet Union and the Eastern bloc nations from the Bretton Woods system of global trade. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:24, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
Cold War II can formally be dated from the day Russia was kicked out of the G8 cause it refused to bend the knee to US hegemony. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:30, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Protesters shut down LGBTQ festival in Republic of Georgia (VIDEOS)

Democracy in action. Citizens thwart the Biden regime /USAID /NED /CIA /OSF /Soros (what the Right Scoop calls "alphabet mafia") efforts to overthrow the legitimate government and expand NATO with another US-backed color revolution,. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:31, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Note: the Barrons article says "From AFP" or Agence France Presse. Earlier this week we discussed The Propaganda Multiplier which says, "It is one of the most important aspects of our media system, and yet hardly known to the public: most of the international news coverage in Western media is provided by only three global news agencies based in New York, London and Paris....AP, Reuters, and AFP (Agence France Presse}. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:44, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Note: When you read about how the Republic of Georgia (or anywhere else for that matter) "decriminalized" homosexuality a few years back, it is only because of the threat of US sanctions for "human rights violations", and not due to any "democratic" grassroots movement. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:58, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

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Georgia State Representative Mesha Mainor abandons the Democrat Party for the Republican Party. https://www.foxnews.com/video/6331067107112 --TheNewRight (talk) 13:49, July 12, 2023 (EDT)

Yah but it doesn't really compete with Zelensky getting pimp-slapped by NATO or Biden war crimes with cluster bombs at the moment.
As long as Republicans support Ukrainian Nazism, who cares if one or two more get added to the roster? RobSGive Peace a chance 14:01, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
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