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Western liberals are losing their minds over new president of Georgia

Unlike Romania, it seems the globalists liberals lost their influence in Georgia to push their globohomo agenda and turning Georgia to be scapegoat for NATO against. Mainstream western media even claim that new president Mikheil Kavelashvili that he is anti-West even though that he sympathize with western leaders such Trump, Victor Orban and Recep Erdogan

Georgian lawmakers elect far-right, anti-west hardliner as new president

--Alex Kosh (talk) 21:21, December 16, 2024 (EST)

You win, Alex. We're going with your headline. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 00:42, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Question: Didn't Donald J. Trump make NATO stronger by getting a large percentage of the delinquent members to pay 2% which they are required to do if they are NATO members? See: Trump’s stand on payments helped make Nato stronger, says Grant Shapps, The Telegraph, 2024

Second question: Did Donald Trump say the following: "“If they [allies] are paying their bills, and if I think they are treating us fairly, the answer is: absolutely, I will stay with NATO.”?[2]

Third question: Did Russia decriminalize homosexuality in 1993 which made male-to-male sexual relations legal in Russia?[3]

Fourth question: Are the two most prominent cities of Russia Moscow and St. Petersburg which are cities that have gay clubs/bars? (Hint: Central Station is one of several gay club/bar establishments which have gay clubs/bars in Russia)Conservative (talk) 21:35, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Question number 1: is purpose of NATO turn countries that encountered by Russia to be scapegoat against Russia. What the purpose of antagonizing Russia after 1991?

Question number 2: isnt most NATO countries refusing to pay their fair share of their Defense, arnt they abusing American taxpayers by that?

Question number 3: which country who arnt able to define what the woman, Russia or Western countries?

Question number 4: which countries that allowing and pushing for homosexual marriage, letting children to be raised by 2 dads or 2 moms instead of healthy traditional family - Unsigned User: Alex Kosh

Maybe Russia isnt perfect, but with demonizing the whole country nobody will benefited from that --Alex Kosh (talk) 21:53, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Lionizing Russia and pretending it has no faults. Is this rational or irrational? Conservative (talk) 21:57, December 16, 2024 (EST)

It seems you didnt read my last line, I am not Russian apologist like Rob, but I think there is no benefit with antagonizing Russia that begun since 1991, we have more in common with Russia than we have with countries such as Turkey, but we are still antagonizing for some reason --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:08, December 16, 2024 (EST)

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Alex Kosh, you are an asset to Conservapedia. Keep up the good work. Conservative (talk) 22:10, December 16, 2024 (EST)

If memory serves and I think it does, post Trump complaining about NATO as far as some members being delinquent, the majority of NATO members now pay their 2%. And some NATO members pay more than 2% now such as Poland. Conservative (talk) 22:13, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Alex Kosh, Which countries in the Nato alliance are paying their fair share on defence?, July 2024. Conservative (talk) 22:15, December 16, 2024 (EST)

Alex Kosh, about 40% of Russians are neutral/friendly relating to their views on homosexuality.[4] In the USA, acceptance of homosexuality recently declined in the USA according to Gallup (64%, down from 71%, say same-sex relations are morally acceptable).[5]

While many do not wish the tares and wheat to both occupy the world now, God gives us a freewill which some people in all of the nations abuse. Unfortunately, liberty can turn into licentiousness. Conservative (talk) 22:22, December 16, 2024 (EST)

All the contemporary Christian nations which have the most missionaries sent out come from free nations and not authoritarian/totalitarian nations. God likes freedom and that is why Jesus came to earth. Jesus freed Christians from the bondage of sin. Conservative (talk) 22:31, December 16, 2024 (EST)

As far as your point about marriage, Russia has the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world and Vladimir Putin is a divorced man. Conservative (talk) 22:46, December 16, 2024 (EST)

If you are seeing all that in Russia, so why you arnt seeing that with countries that supposed to be "America allies"? Even though that Russia is far better than most West European countries who turned against Christ (Germany, France, UK and all Scandinavia) and they even hate Americans and make fun on America in their SM, I never seen Russian make fun of America like they did. Maybe Wokeism isnt gaining popular in America, but that different in Europe, even in most historical conservative countries such as Spain, Ireland and Greece who legalized gay marriage last year --Alex Kosh (talk) 23:49, December 16, 2024 (EST)

In terms of church attendance, let's take a look at France which is one of the most secular regions of Western Europe due to the French Revolution, etc. France is largely a Catholic country Christianity wise. 29% of the population identifies as Catholic.[6] French Catholics: Only 12% of Catholics in France attend church weekly, and most attend for holidays and special events.[7]

Now let's take a look at Russia as far as church attendance. Only 12% of Russians attend church at least once a month. Only 6% of the population and 43% of believers go to church several times a month.[8]

As far as the USA, it probably has the highest rate of church attendance among developed countries. 32% of U.S. adults reported attending church, synagogue, mosque, or temple in the past seven days.[9]

The African country of Kenya,has a lower homosexuality rate than Russia, but Conservapedia doesn't attempt to make Kenya the savior nation of the world nor does it praise its president incessantly. Conservative (talk) 00:05, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Alex, you said that you never have seen Russia make fun of the USA as much as Europeans. Whether that is accurate or not, I do not know, but I will say that Putin is decidedly anti-Western and anti-Westernism is popular in Russia. Furthermore, Melania Trump's nude photos aired on Russian state TV after Donald's victory. By the way, Melanie Trump is an immigrant from Slovenia, which like Russia, is a Slavic country. Melania became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2006 at the age of 36.[10]. Conservative (talk) 00:45, December 17, 2024 (EST)

"There are also plenty of 'gay-friendly' clubs and same sex nights in Moscow and St Petersburg. Women only nights in the capital are becoming increasingly popular. Venues will often have a double life turning from an everyday establishment by day into something quite different after dark. This is how it works in Russia."[11]

And as I noted above, Moscow and St. Peterburg are the most influential cities in Russia. Conservative (talk) 01:19, December 17, 2024 (EST)

So you're a retard. You're never gonna convince any of us you are normal. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:59, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Ad hominems (Personal attacks) are a logical fallacy and no substitute for sound argumentation and facts/evidence. I would get some coaching from User: Alex Kosh who has an ability to form actual arguments. User: SamHB and User: AugustO could do this as well and they appear on the website once in a while. Maybe you can get some coaching from them as well. Conservative (talk) 02:05, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Thanks. I'll remember that. Now, let's not girly gossip about editors. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:20, December 17, 2024 (EST)

All what you said is irrelevant, even blinds and deafs know that West is far more woke than Russia. And Russia is trying to preserve their culture from influence of Klaus Schwab and George Soros in country that have conservative Christians and huge conservative muslims. Even though Christians in Russia faced much worse persecution than any country in history but they are far better than any country in Europe and they are better than Greeks, you cant convince me otherwise --Alex Kosh (talk) 02:22, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Question: Is Russia known for a history of Christian evangelism as far as the Great Commission via sending out missionaries throughout the world? No, it is not. This is true of Western nations - including the USA.[12] Show me a contemporary authoritarian and corrupt regime and I will show you a nation which does not have an abundance of missionaries being sent throughout the world.

Russia has the highest rate of alcoholism in the world and an AIDS epidemic so severe that it does not have enough AIDS medication to treat patients. The Bible says that drunkards shall not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:10). Conservative (talk) 02:42, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Oh, the Urals to Kamchtka is not part of the world. Ok. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:50, December 17, 2024 (EST)

The Urals (mainly in Russia) are a part of the Russian Federation. That is a big fail. Show me that the Russian Federation is sending out a lot of missionaries into the world. Russia is definitely not in the same league as the USA as far as sending out missionaries into the world. Conservative (talk) 02:53, December 17, 2024 (EST)

"The United States sends out more missionaries than any other country, sending out more than 127,000 missionaries each year."[13] You have been checkmated User: Rob "Ivan" Smith. By the way, the American Bobby Fischer was the greatest chess player that ever lived. And he was definitely not a Russian! Conservative (talk) 03:00, December 17, 2024 (EST)

It seems what user Rob said about you is true, you are making more irrelevant points, and unfortunately you are only considering Evangelicals as real Christians. I dont know if the founders of this website who are Catholics would like what you said? No country in history have persecuted Christians more than Russia during Soviet era, however they preserved their faith more than any country in Europe, that only thing is enough to pay respect to Christians in Russia --Alex Kosh (talk) 03:18, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Alex, Russia played a key role in the Soviet Union's history - a history which includes persecuting Polish Christians and other Christians throughout the former Soviet Union. In addition, the Russians have blown up and destroyed many Ukrainian churches. "Almost 48% (142 sites) of all 297 Christian sites that got fully or partially ruined by the Russian attack belong to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC). The largest number of damaged religious sites are in Donetsk (75) and Luhansk (59) regions followed by Kyiv (43) and Kharkiv (38) regions." - 11 months of Russia’s full-scale attack: 307 religious sites ruined in Ukraine.

Alex, evangelical Christians are not the only Christians in the USA sending out missionaries.

Next, I am baptised and confirmed Catholic who is a registered member of a local Catholic church. Today, I sent Andy Schlafly and User: NishantXavier an email indicating that I am joining the Knights of Columbus which is a Catholic fraternal organization. At the same time, I also attend Lutheran Churches. I prefer high church Christianity. Recently, I took the pictures for the Conservapedia Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church article (This type of Christianity is a form of high church Christianity). However, I like some things about low church Christian groups too (Many evangelical Christians attend low church Christianity type churches). Conservative (talk) 03:29, December 17, 2024 (EST)

You know, it's your contributions to this page that makes information here useless and not valid or viable for any readers of this page. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:56, December 17, 2024 (EST)

By the way, the claim you made directly above, doesn't have a lick of evidence. It's merely your opinion. Sad! I remain an logical arguments and evidence person and have a very low opinion of argument by mere assertion. Conservative (talk) 10:41, December 17, 2024 (EST)

RobSmith, do you know that Conservapedia is on the World Wide Web and reaches beyond a Russian audience (80% of Russians get all their news from Russian state television.[14] See: Russian television excerpts - Russian imperialism), don't you? Conservative (talk) 04:03, December 17, 2024 (EST)

So if North Korea converted to Christianity, you would still blame them for persecution of Christians? You are making more irrelevant and ridiculous fallacies. Just know that Russia isnt all about Putin. Putin will not live forever, someone will succeed him one day. Demonizing all Russians like what you did will not get America nor West anything. Anyone come after Putin would still doesnt has good intentions toward West, if the West continued with their failed policies with Russia --Alex Kosh (talk) 04:20, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Alex, please give me strong arguments based on evidence - not hypotheticals.

There are reports of North Koreans soldiers being killed in Ukraine[15], thanks to the Kremlin/Putin.

Alex, give me the names of two Russian heads of state who were not authoritarians.

Question: Does Russia have a history of imperialism? See: Russian imperialism and Russian imperialism. If not, please provide me strong evidence of this matter.

You provided zero proof that I have demonized all Russians. My user page quotes Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. I have a collection of Russian songs posted at Conservapedia.[16][17] Conservative (talk)

"Shortly after the Supreme Court ruling last year, gay bars in cities across Russia were similarly raided by police. Sporadic raids have reportedly persisted throughout the country since then." - A dozen Moscow clubgoers found guilty after anti-LGBTQ 'propaganda' raids - December 3, 2024

They were convicted of petty hooliganism. Moses was a lot tougher on homosexuals.

So now there is evidence that homosexual bars are in Russian cities outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg. Conservative (talk) 10:24, December 17, 2024 (EST)

See what I mean. The guy's just a sex obsessed troll who loves derailing discussions. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:14, December 17, 2024 (EST)

I see User:Conservative flooded the email list (again) with his obsession with gay sex. Wanna explain to the people of the world why you are so obsessed with gay sex? Thanks. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:26, December 17, 2024 (EST)

RobSmith, you have aggressively and desperately tried to paint Russia as some kind of conservative, straight paradise - despite the fact that it is or has: gay clubs/bars; an AIDS epidemic; low and declining church attendance/membership; a currency that is falling in value; sky-high inflation; falling labor productivity that is much lower than the USA; big labor shortages; a demographic crisis; much lower innovation than the USA; a brain drain; a sewer system crisis; pothole filled roads that are ranked low internationally; deteriorating quality of its automobiles; a kleptocratic and authoritarian government; increasing risks of stagflation; an overdependence on the selling of oil that is facing falling availability due to higher extraction costs in the future; a failing state that cannot protect its borders; a military with logistical problems and other problems that is ranked behind the USA in strength that is struggling to beat a much smaller population in relation to itself in Ukraine; the highest alcoholism rate in the world; the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world with a divorced leader; a larger neo-nazi problem than Ukraine such as the neo-nazi Wagner Group leader; waning influence in the world as evidenced by the loss of strategic partners and key military bases such as in Syria; etc. etc. (See also: Decline of Russia and Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future).

Now you have publically made is clear that you are smarter than some Conservapedians and have dubbed yourself as being much more knowledgeable than others when it comes to world politics. And yet, you have repeatedly used logical fallacies and have repeatedly engaged in denialism. Now other Conservapedians, such as the owner of this website who had denied your repeated requests to censor my essays, recognize that Russia has significant, multiple problems and it is in decline. Of course that should come to no surprise to you given that the owner of the website wants the American flag as its logo and not the Russian flag. Well the long and short of it is that repetition is the mother of all learning so after a while, I have definitely noticed that your inflated view of Russia is now more realistic, but unfortunately still very unrealistic. And the vast majority of my fellow Conservapedians see this unfortunate mindset of yours. So I applied some additional repetition since there is a lot to keep track of in terms of Russia's decline.

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 15:19, December 17, 2024 (EST)

So now we should blow whole world with Russia because Russia have gay bars and because they are sending less missionaries than America. Thats your point of antagonizing Russia. If you really feeling that, you would be happy that Georgia rejected WEF/EU puppets who want to spread the homosexual agenda in their country --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:26, December 17, 2024 (EST)

The guy's just a troll. I don't know why User:Aschlafly forces all of us to be subjected to his obsession with gay sex, introducing gay bars in Moscow into what was supposed to be a discussion on the Republic of Georgia presidential election. He disrupts any and all discussions among editors like this, making it virtually impossible to coordinate editing activities. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:47, December 17, 2024 (EST)

RobSmith, when the subject of Russia and the USA/West is brought up, you very frequently bring up the topic of homosexuality in the USA/West. As a result, I pointed out the prevalence of gay clubs/bars/saunas in Russia and how Russia decriminalized homosexuality in 1993. Additionally, I pointed out that about 40% of Russians have neutral/positive views on homosexuality and that Kenya and some Islamic/African countries had more negative views on homosexuality than Russia. Furthermore, I pointed out the related subject of the AIDS epidemic in Russia. In short, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I also relayed this information to Andy Schlafly and his view of Russia was altered. Now if you don't like this, go kick rocks because this means that you don't like reality and prefer denialism. Conservative (talk) 06:49, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Sorry, you are a bald-faced liar.

User:Conservative is obsessed with homosexuality. It is impossible to escape User:Conservative broaching the subject of homosexuality in virtually any discussion thread on wiki or in email.

How long will User:Aschlafly force editors and readers to be subjected User:Conservative's disruptive and offensive editing habits? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 12:33, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Lawmakers call for intelligence assessment on ending U.S. support for Ukraine

[18] What are they gonna do, have John Brennan & Peter Strzok write it again like they did in December-January 2015-2016? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:14, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Foreign Policy December 16, 2024: "both sides have issues that are non-starters and the negotiations are unlikely to work anyway. For Russia, the stationing of foreign ‘peacekeeping troops’ is just as bad or worse than Ukraine joining NATO. And for Ukraine, the US forcing the AFU to abandon currently held territory in Zaporozhye, Kherson, etc., which Russia demands as part of its terms will be an impossible ask—

European countries would only station troops if the US guaranteed to back them up militarily should those troops be attacked by Russia—a scenario unlikely given Trump’s strong signals opposing such possibilities." RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:27, December 17, 2024 (EST)

She shooter..

Who says there is no equality ?Daily Mail "The female school shooter, who gunned down students and teachers before turning the gun on herself in Wisconsin, has been identified by officials. Natalie 'Samantha' Rupnow, 15, killed a student, a teacher, and then herself..."Telling (talk) 10:11, December 17, 2024 (EST)

HERE is the unauthenticated manifesto published by a right-wing Indian website. The pro-feminism media is not reporting on it. Conservative (talk) 10:53, December 17, 2024 (EST)

This sick one had an account to "Watch People Die".https://ngo.locals.com/post/6470000/exclusive-madison-wisc-christian-school-mass-shooter-identified Dianne3000 (talk) 19:42, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Thanks for the link, D.Telling (talk) 18:16, December 21, 2024 (EST)

What a p.o.s. Chris Wray...

What a p.o.s. Wray... [19] [20].Dianne3000 (talk) 23:23, December 17, 2024 (EST)

Thanks D, noting about this troubling case.Telling (talk) 01:36, December 18, 2024 (EST)

"State of Palestine"? WTH? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:26, December 18, 2024 (EST)

It sounds like Wray is bitter and wants to slam the door on the way out. Like a little child that breaks the toys... London of sad.Telling (talk) 18:12, December 21, 2024 (EST)

One question I got: On whose advice did Trump appoint Wray? Chris Christie? a sitting US Senator or Senators? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:08, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Great question, RobS.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:06, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Murder of Gen. Kirillov

The Biden junta whacking Gen. Igor Kirillov was a big mistake. This kind of stupid game can go on forever. The United States has 423 generals (not to mention underlings down the chain), and not all of them can be afforded security protection. The Russians won't send amateur hitmen bribed with $100,000 and a European passport (those kind of fools exist everywhere and any society). President Trump has to decide if he wants Cold War II or not.

That will be the first question Putin asks Trump. Remember, a ceasefire is already off the table.

Yah yah yah, we already know...Western intelligence has already spread the fake news in Western media that Kirillov was behind some fake news chemical weapons attack. Save your breath. Don't spam bs propaganda here. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:05, December 18, 2024 (EST)

You don't have any solid proof that the so-called "Biden junta" was responsible for the general's death. It's just speculation. And with the Russians having problems with a falling value of the Russian ruble, high inflation in Russia, an expensive war in Ukraine and 3 wars in Africa, labor shortages in Russia, their problems associated with the falling of the Syrian regime, their crumbling infrastructure plus a host of other problems, don't be surprised if there is not an expensive rash of hit men killing US generals that is paid for by the Russians. Also, Colonel Douglas MacGregor points out that USA military is too top heavy command-wise and that there are too many US generals. So the Russians killing off some USA generals wouldn't be devastating to the US military.

In short, you are failing to see that Russia is stretched too thin right now which is one of the Russians they had inadequate resources to defend the Syrian regime. And you are failing to realize that Russia is in decline and doesn't have unlimited resources in order to carry out something that wouldn't have much of an effect.

To give some wider perspective, Russia's population is approximately 1.77% of the world's population and they are barely a high-income country with a host of financial problems. And as John Mearsheimer has pointed out, Russia really can't compare to the USA/China global power wise because military power rests on economic power (The USA and China have much bigger economies than Russia). Also, the population size of a country compared to other major powers is relevant too in global power dynamics. And the USA has a much bigger population than Russia. Conservative (talk) 08:25, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Perfect summary: "The sprawling Russian Federation now looks like a banana republic that needs assistance from Pyongyang’s hermit kingdom and can’t even keep one of its own generals safe in the national capital."[21] Conservative (talk) 08:55, December 18, 2024 (EST)

Oh, Putin doesn't have the guts to do anything about Kirillov. Far from getting revenge on Biden after Nordstream, Putin endorsed him. PeterKa (talk) 01:30, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Reprisals aren't always instantaneous. This is a reversion to Cold War politics unless a diplomatic solution is applied sometime soon. And by "diplomatic", it has nothing to do with negotiating a ceasefire. Overall security and trade agreements, arms limitation and disarmament talks come first. What's tragic is, institutions that were created to end the Cold War, like the OSCE, Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, or IAEA have been compromised and discredited by the West. Let's hope it doesn't take 20 or 30 years like last time to agree to negotiate to create such structures. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:46, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Update: Russian reprisal hits SBU in Kyiv. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:34, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Pardon for IRS contractor who leaked Trump's tax return?

Rolling Stone thinks IRS contractor Charles Littlejohn should be pardoned. Getting revenge on opponents is what the IRS is for, at least as far as Dems are concerned. PeterKa (talk) 01:49, December 19, 2024 (EST)

We still remember IRS going after conservatives under Obama 1.0.Telling (talk) 02:06, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Oh yeah. Lasting effect too.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:05, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Trump Criticizes Spending Deal, Pushing Congress Toward a Shutdown.

Trump Criticizes Spending Deal, Pushing Congress Toward a Shutdown. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/18/us/politics/trump-musk-spending-bill.html - from the bew sheriff in town...Telling (talk) 02:05, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Newt Gingrich, who was able to deliver balanced budgets, had several government shutdowns (But the US government never shuts down. They are merely slowdowns). Conservative (talk) 09:17, December 19, 2024 (EST)

From one of User:Conservative's favorite globalist/deep state rags, the official publication of the Atlantic Council:

Gingrich Shut Down the Government in a Tantrum 23 Years Ago.

RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:48, December 19, 2024 (EST)

"They are merely slowdowns" - quotable.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:04, December 19, 2024 (EST)

There might have been one time where Gingrich got angry and had a so-called "tantrum", but maybe it was just righteous anger if this occurred. However, I saw an interview of Gingrich and he said he shut down the government on multiple occasions. Furthermore, Gringrich played a significant part in 3 government shutdowns (See: How Many Times Has the US Government Shut Down?).

As far as your allegation that the publication you cited was one my favorite publications, you didn't provide one iota of proof for your contention. Unless you are a mindreader or have a statement from me saying it is one of my favorite publications, you are just gossiping. Remember, he who asserts must prove. Conservative (talk) 16:48, December 19, 2024 (EST)

"There might have been one time where Gingrich got angry", oh, so the Atlantic Council preaches the gospel truth, according to you, and isn't a partisan hit machine. Okay.

You just cited the Atlantic Council in one of your anti-Trump globalist propaganda pieces in the past week (after I explained to you months ago who & what the Atlantic Council is). And I don't have to provide "evidence" - everybody can see what an idiot troll you are. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:58, December 19, 2024 (EST)

With this defeat, the MAGA movement & Trump Effect is already losing momentum, and Trump's not even sworn in yet.

Good job, User:Conservative, impeding efforts to inform & educate MAGA voters. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:50, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Disruptive trolling

The guy who got caught plagariarizing by Karajou, gossips and has been caught in numerous lies, etc. etc. is talking about truth. And you still haven't figured out that I don't care about your opinions. I agree with Karajou who told you: "You have proven yourself to be no damn good in foreign affairs..". I will also point out that you cite MSM news outlets on main page right and in articles. For example, you cite CNN in the Bill Browder article (footnote #7). Rules for thee, but not for me.

And your hero, Vladimir Putin, isn't very good at international politics either as evidenced by: him causing Finland/Sweden to join NATO (see: FINLAND is Planning To Give U.S. 15 Military Bases To Fight Russia and Why Finland Joining NATO Checkmates Russia

Are the 15 US bases in Finland in the Continuing Resolution Congress just passed?

(Tuff question, cause now User:Conservative has to educate himself what a continuing resolution is. Don't worry. He'll be a budget expert by morning. Too bad he'll be a swamp budget expert and not a MAGA budget expert.)

and How Sweden Joining NATO Destroys PUTIN); losing his military bases in Syria

Wow. It appears the terrorist attack in Germany was carried out by a US backed "moderate rebel" terrorist.

(Maybe if the Russians were still in Syria, the jihadis would be held in check; but now the momentum has shifted the other way).

and his strategic partner Assad (See also: Russia's overseas troubles - so many all at once! Putin's jenga tower is unstable!); being engaged in a costly war of attrition in Ukraine which is making Russia's demographic crisis worse and causing a brain drain in Russia; not sufficiently protecting Kursk and losing two members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) - namely Uzbekistan and Armenia. The CSTO was supposed to be Russia's counterweight to NATO (See: Russia's counterweight to NATO is falling apart. Russia is losing influence in the Middle East). Conservative (talk) 01:37, December 20, 2024 (EST)

This is very abnormal behavior. Who obsesses over a particular month/year in relation to a foreign country - especially when the country is in decline? Conservative (talk) 14:17, December 20, 2024 (EST)

And it's so obvious by now that Putin's decision to invade Ukraine in February 2022 was a foolish decision for Russia given its very bad consequences for Russia. Conservative (talk) 14:27, December 20, 2024 (EST)

This thread is about a domestic issue - the continuing resolution. It's not about Russia, Putin, gay bathhouses, potholes, or any of your other silly obsessions. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:23, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Trump Effect

User:Conservative: Is this the Trump Effect you've been spamming all over MPR? Markets Plunge.

Let's just hope no one took Conservapedia & User:Conservative's investment advice. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 12:02, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Ronald Reagan OMB director David Stockman:

Now Comes Trump’s Turn In The Economic Dunk Tank, Part 2.

So who's judgement you gonna trust on the Trump Effect, David Stockman who wrote the Reagan budget, cut spending and saved the planet from Soviet Communism, or User:Conservative who thinks gay bathhouses in America and illegal immigration fueling population growth are going to make America the most powerful nation for the foreseeable future? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:02, December 19, 2024 (EST)

RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:02, December 19, 2024 (EST)

I didn't give any investment advice. Also, you gave zero evidence for your other claims concerning me.

Also, if you have a sound case against my essay at [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]], then write a counter essay at: [[Essay: The United States will NOT be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]. Conservative (talk) 13:18, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Yes you did. You claimed an uptick in stocks was the Trump Effect. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:23, December 19, 2024 (EST)

We live in a multivariable world that is always changing and variables have different strengths in terms of their effects. There are things that happened since Trump's election and the further away from the election we are, the less Trump being elected is going to have. I have no further commentary on this particular issue.

And at the end of the day, you keep kvetching about this essay, but you never write a counter essay. So I don't take your bellyaching about this essay seriously. Conservative (talk) 13:38, December 19, 2024 (EST)

The xenophobia and bigotry you spam in Conservapedia are the views of one man, albeit one unbalanced man, and not the views of America or the conservative movement. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 14:39, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Again, you make assertions about me that you do not support. And remember, ad hominem attacks (personal attacks) are a logical fallacy. Conservative (talk) 15:00, December 19, 2024 (EST)

By the way, upon further reflection, once Trump is actually in office, the Trump effect is expected to go into high gear as he implements his pro-growth policies. I cite: "Trump Effect": CEOs, investors bullish on global economy, survey finds. Key quote: "The U.S. will clearly be the beneficiary of much of this positive activity, solidifying its position as the most important investment destination for global businesses... ...and 86% of investors expect the global economy to improve in the first six months of 2025". By the way, there is no "Putin effect". Conservative (talk) 02:05, December 20, 2024 (EST)

Is this the Trump Effect?

CNN: The Dow just did something it hasn’t done since Jimmy Carter was president. Dow tanks for 10 straight days.

Yellen drains cash before January 1st, setting up debt ceiling crisis for Trump administration.

Nearly $10T of US govt debt matures in 2025 with 2.50% avg coupon. Refinancing at > %5 will make the debt interest payments huge and consume most of the budget.

We’re headed towards one of the largest bubble bursts in the history of this country. Trump warns of a 1929-style crisis.

This basically is the same liberal moral relativism User:Conservative argues about hate crimes - "conservatives", he argues, can just close their eyes to reality and pretend facts and laws don't exist or apply to them. Personally, I am getting more fed up the psychotic spam and trolling, on wiki and the Sysop email list, by a Senior Admin daily.

RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:36, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Biden's 'single greatest mass jailbreak of corrupt scammers in history'

The single greatest mass jailbreak of corrupt scammers in history. [22]. From the great Daniel Greenfield Telling (talk) 21:10, December 19, 2024 (EST)

Something's up

Both Biden and Kamala have canceled their holiday plans in Delaware & California and returned to DC. Probably a false flag Tet-style offensive. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:33, December 20, 2024 (EST)

RBS-Ukraine December 23, 2024: US urges its citizens to leave Belarus immediately.

Also, the Moldova-Transnistria situation is heating up (or rather, being provoked; the people of Transnistria have no desire to be EU/NATO slaves). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:03, December 24, 2024 (EST)

A walk down memory lane

Jake Sullivan [1] to Hillary Clinton: Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria.

Donald Trump, January 2, 2016: 'Clinton Created ISIS with Obama'.

What Trump left out was Obama, Biden, and Hillary Clinton. The Biden family were the first to reap the financial rewards.

They took down Libya and shipped all the captured stockpiles of weapons off to Syria and gave them to Al Qaeda and groups that became the Islamic State to overthrow Bashar Assad.

It was fired director of Obama's Defense Intelligence Agency Gen. Michael Flynn who told Trump that Obama/Biden & Hillary created the Islamic State, which is why Flynn was the first target of the Russia hoax.

Now Biden has recreated the Islamic State, and the original objective, as outlined by Osama bin Laden of overthrowing the House of Saud, is revived. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:08, December 20, 2024 (EST)

So when Trump says, "I defeated ISIS", he is not saying "The United States defeated ISIS"; he's saying one faction of the United States government, the Trump faction, defeated another faction of the United States Government, the six-ways-from-Sunday deep state crowd. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:53, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Question to User:Conservative: Was that just election hyperbole & rhetoric that Donald Trump pulled out of his butt in 2016, or was there (and is there) a factual basis to it? Cause you have done yeoman's service to the deep state to discredit and paint Donald Trump as a fool and liar over the past 3 years. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:34, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Note: 12 hours and no response, despite the user being active. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:50, December 22, 2024 (EST)

User:Conservative: You have hampered and hindered, if not outright destroyed, Conservapedia's ability to be an effective conservative social media influencer with your globalist and fascist trolling. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:23, December 22, 2024 (EST)

"Reuters: The US economy WILL continue bla bla bla"

This is simply more evidence that the poster has no understanding of what news is or how to distinguish it from brainwashing and propaganda. News is factual reporting of events (past tense); "will continue" is a prognostication of FUTURE events, and NOT news. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:30, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Islamic Empire expansionists Iran vs Turkey

Funny, who criticizes who. While both are not on the good side anyhow. Iranian Regime Mouthpiece 'Kayhan' Comes Out Against Turkish President Erdoğan 'Who Is Working To Revive The Ottoman Caliphate.' In a December 16, 2024 article titled "This Neighbor Is No Longer Trustworthy, the Iranian regime mouthpiece Kayhan labelled Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan as "opportunistic" and accused him of assisting the Syrian rebels, particularly Hay'at Tahrir Al-Sham, and of working to revive the Ottoman caliphate.Dianne3000 (talk) 06:12, December 22, 2024 (EST)

The US' dilemma, Turkey who is still in NATO but is fighting US allies - Kurds who are the most anti Jihad group there.Telling (talk) 22:20, December 22, 2024 (EST)

Putin vs. Dugin

When Vladimir Putin first made these comments, I was astounded. Why would he treat the fall of Assad and rise of HTS as anything but a setback for Russia, much less treat HTS as anything but a terrorist organization? Then I remembered something.

In his 1997 book Foundations of Geopolitics, Aleksandr Dugin, who is perhaps the most influential geostrategist in Russia, identified Turkey (along with China) as a "frenemy" nation which Russia could use as a tool against the West by promoting its southward expansion. More specifically, Russia could promote Turkish expansion first into Syria and Iraq and then into Saudi Arabia in exchange for Turkish support of Russian efforts to remove Western influence from the Middle East. Considering that (1) HTS is a Turkish proxy; and (2) Iranian-backed militias in Iraq claim to have evidence that Turkey is preparing to take over Iraq through an HTS-style offensive, could the events of the past month be the result of Putin attempting to implement this strategy?

If that is the case, then ironically enough Dugin himself doesn't appear to be onboard with it, having previously called the HTS offensive a "betrayal" of Russia by Turkey. This is likely because Dugin doesn't believe Recep Tayyip Erdogan has done enough to distance Turkey from the West, even after the West attempted to overthrow him back in 2016. Putin on the other hand could be taking a more lenient approach toward Turkey, and be willing to take a gamble which Dugin would avoid. Only time will tell which man is correct.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:08, December 28, 2024 (EST)

The underlying assumption here is that both Russia & Turkish foreign policy is "expansionist". In the eyes of the West, perhaps. From Russia's perspective, they seek re-unification of peoples and territories, as East Germany was reunited with West Germany, or the PRC wishes with Taiwan.

In a sense, Erdogan has made similar statements recently, but I can't really speak to that situation fully. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:38, December 28, 2024 (EST)

Beep/beep: The psychological and logistical blow to Hezbollah was significant

Mossad agents reveal: This is how Hezbollah walkie-talkies and pagers exploded. Two retired Mossad agents reveal to CBS' "60 Minutes" details of the September operation in which thousands of walkie-talkies and pagers belonging to Hezbollah terrorists exploded: "This was the tipping point of the war." https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/401150 Telling (talk) 22:18, December 22, 2024 (EST)

Telling, you will like this article: Benjamin Netanyahu: The Inside Story of Israel’s Victory, Wall Street Journal, December 20, 2024. Conservative (talk) 00:12, December 23, 2024 (EST)

Thanks. Of course he, like any human being has his flaws, but has been under lawfare pressure, yet, one thing is clear, ever since: safety and security for Israel is his 'thing', issue. As should be.Telling (talk) 01:56, December 24, 2024 (EST)

I'm getting reports Saudi Arabia attacked Yemen tonight. You hear anything? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:01, December 24, 2024 (EST)

Not from variety of sources I see.Telling (talk) 16:16, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Bye and Bye: Washington State Moves Toward a “Wealth Tax” As the Wealthy Move to Leave the State

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/12/22/bye-and-bye-washington-state-moves-to-toward-wealth-tax/ OKTelling (talk) 16:13, December 23, 2024 (EST)

WTF - "The Bible is pro-trans[sic], Anglican campaign group claims"

The Bible is pro-trans, Anglican campaign group claims https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/25/bible-pro-trans-queer-guidance-church-of-england/

My 1st comment:

Deut. 22 5 Telling (talk) 06:45, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Trump Trolls Canada, Denmark, and Panama for Christmas but Behind the Fun He Makes Serious Points

"Trump Trolls Canada, Denmark, and Panama for Christmas but Behind the Fun He Makes Serious Points." [23]. Besides, the experienced 'art of the deal' most probably lays a foundation for Panama... for instance.Telling (talk) 06:44, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Re Panama, he might want to pressure to cool off China commercial links.Dianne3000 (talk)

I dunno; Greenland has high rates of alcoholism and no flush toilets. User:Conservative thinks we ought to just nuke 'em. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 13:19, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Oil & gas?Telling (talk) 16:15, December 26, 2024 (EST)

The Greenland proposal is probably a good idea; my instincts tell me it's headed for another 54-40 or Fight. Then again, we live in a fast-changing world with fast changing border adjustments. Someone posted a meme on Telegram with another Trump-Putin ala Hitler-Stalin Pact - the Baltics & Donbas in exchange for Greenland & Panama. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:32, December 26, 2024 (EST)

It's actually a good lesson in The Art of the Deal. Trump talks like this, and Denmark immediately coughs up $1.5 billion to shore up Greenland's defenses. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:04, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Merry belated Christmas, everyone! So, it appears that Trump was merely trolling about Canada but is dead serious about Greenland and the Panama Canal. While it is currently unclear how he plans to accomplish annexing those territories, no doubt the stealth neocons who will be comprising his second term foreign policy team are itching to convince him that going to war to obtain those territories would be option.

That said, pursuing annexation of those territories is a bad idea, for three reasons. First, the core premise behind such annexations is that doing so is necessary to counter the so-called "China threat," which was manufactured by the Deep State and its media outlets in order to justify its nefarious activities in Asia, which unless stopped could eventually lead to World War III. In other words, the main beneficiary of such annexations would be not the American people, but their oppressors. Second, even if there were a more benign motive behind such annexations they would still add three new countries to the list of those we border (be it by land or by sea): Iceland, Norway, and Panama. With more borders to secure, there would be a need for a larger military budget, or at least one larger than what we could otherwise cut it down to in order to reduce the federal deficit. Furthermore, such annexations would make it more difficult for us to remain neutral in international affairs than we potentially could otherwise, because the more countries we border the more potential hostile incidents could occur in our backyard. And lastly, the sheer amount of new land acquire would be a potentially severe roadblock towards reducing domestic government spending and eliminating the federal deficit.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:48, December 26, 2024 (EST)

I still see it as a negotiating manuever by him.Telling (talk) 04:57, December 27, 2024 (EST)

I view the Greenland project more as a revival of NATO. He's got Denmark already to cough up more cash, but it would be the US that man's the bases for the most part. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:10, December 27, 2024 (EST)

Though Trump means economics. Apparently.Telling (talk) 18:55, December 28, 2024 (EST)

DG: "Chanukah Over Syria. Miracles can still happen here."

Great history overview (from the great Daniel Greenfield): Link

On this Chanukah, menorahs will be lit not only in the land of Israel, from Jerusalem to Gaza, but in Lebanon and on the heights of Mt. Hermon overlooking Syria. Vacationing families will visit the waterfalls of the Hermon Stream in the Golan Heights from which the Syrian Greek armies had descended thousands of years ago to conquer Israel leading to the events of. Chanukah.
The lights of the menorahs over darkness are a reminder that miracles can still happen here.
The Syrian Greeks had called the area Paneas after their god Pan and the Arab Muslim conquerors had retained the pagan name as Baneas due to the inability of the so-called ‘Palestinian’ occupiers to pronounce the letter ‘P’. In the original Chanukah, the Maccabees had driven the Syrian Greeks and their enforced paganism out of the land and during the Six Day War their latter day descendants also pushed out the Syrian invaders at great cost.
Commanding the heights, the Assad regime had unleashed artillery fire on the villages of Northern Israel, forcing residents to live in bomb shelters. The Syrian Muslim armies had fortified the Golan Heights with layers of guns and bunkers. Under heavy fire, Israeli soldiers charged the heights and though more than half of the force was killed or wounded, the Israelis took the heights living out the words of the Betar hymn “to die or to conquer the mountain”.
The heights are marked by Israel’s long struggle against empires.
Here is the Cave of Pan, now an archeological site, whose worshipers believed that its waters came from the underworld, but the idol is long gone along with its followers to their own underworld after attempting to impose their paganism on the Jews of Israel.
Antiochus IV Epiphanes, styled as ‘God Manifest’, began a ruthless campaign of persecution to wipe out Judaism in Israel. He ordered the Torah defiled with the blood of pigs and commanded “that the lamp, which they call undying and which burns continually in the temple, should be extinguished”. In the climax of Chanukah, the Maccabean revolt by a devout family, not only liberated Jerusalem, but relit the menorah with the last remaining pure oil that, despite being only sufficient for one day, continued to burn for eight days until fresh oil could arrive.
While Antiochus, his empire and his gods are long gone, menorahs still burn in the land that he once ruled as a reminder of the miraculous victory and of the holy light he tried to suppress
Rome stepped into his place appointing Herod, the son of an Edomite and an Arab, to become the first Arab ruler over Israel. Here on the heights are also the ruins of Herod’s palace built to honor his Roman patron. Herod Philip II, his son, who like his father was not Jewish in any way, the son of Cleopatra of Jerusalem whom Herod married after murdering the last Hasmonean princess, declared this to be his capital Caesarea-Philippi. That too is in ruins.
The rubble of empires is everywhere around. Here is an ancient Roman road leading to Damascus and there an Ottoman tomb. Turkey’s brutal Islamist dictator, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, successfully used former Al Qaeda terrorists to invade and take over Syria. Erdogan promises to rebuild the Ottoman Empire and invade Israel as well. The Islamic Jihadist seizure of Syria is a major reason why Israel has expanded its presence in the heights to overlook Syria.
But amidst the ruins of empires, a 1,200 year old synagogue has been rising again in Ein Keshatot (known to the Arab Muslim occupiers as Umm el-Kanatir) and as our own Ari Lieberman described, “I counted no less than six menorahs” among the ancient carvings. The Maccabee revolt had inspired those who worshiped at that synagogue to go on living in faith.
For now it is quiet on the heights where visitors and soldiers walk surrounded by the ruins of the past and the promise of the future. Stone, no matter how built, only endures for so long. Everything that is of earth crumbles except for the fortitude and courage of the hearts of men.
Over two thousand years ago, Judah Maccabee walked among his men, hungry and dressed in rags, and urged them, “O my fellow soldiers, no other time remains more opportune than the present for courage and contempt of dangers; for if you now fight manfully, you may recover your liberty, which, as it is a thing of itself agreeable to all men, so it proves to be to us much more desirable, by its affording us the liberty of worshiping God.”
“You must either recover that liberty, and so regain a happy and blessed way of living, which is that according to our laws, and the customs of our country, or to submit to the most opprobrious sufferings; nor will any seed of your nation remain if ye be defeated in this battle. Fight therefore manfully; and suppose that you must die, though you do not fight; but believe, that besides such glorious rewards as those of the liberty of your country, of your laws, of your religion, you shall then obtain everlasting glory.”
Over two thousand years later the descendants of the Maccabees once again stand watch.
In the days of the Seleucid Empire, Israel existed as a beleaguered encampment surrounded by the Syrian-Greeks, Romans, Edomites and Arabs. That much has not changed. But neither has the will of a small people to keep the light of truth and faith burning against all enemies.
On Oct 7, Israelis made the decision to fight. After over a year of death and terror, of international condemnations and threats from regional and world powers, Israelis have not backed down. And for a second year, menorahs will be lit in wartime. But after over a year of fighting, that brave light of ages shines not only in Jerusalem, but over Gaza, Lebanon and Syria as a reminder that these battles are not just of the moment, but of eternity.
Israel once again stands condemned by Rome and Greece, by the United Nations and the European Union, along with some of their Jewish collaborators, who want nothing more than for the little lights of the menorah to go out, across all of Israel and around the world.
Like Antiochus IV, they defile everything sacred, call the Jews ‘Nazis’ for resisting Islamic genocide, uphold a death cult and denounce Judaism, and expect that is enough to win, but the lesson of Chanukah is that Jews persist in kindling light in the face of darkness. And that when the time is right, G-d rewards their efforts by making that light burn bright.
Life in Israel has always been precarious and living here is an act of faith. The little lights across Israel represent little lives committed to believing in G-d and that miracles can still happen.
A year ago, Israel had hit its lowest point, and while the lights of the menorah still do not shine in the Temple, which remains defiled by Jihadist occupiers on the Temple Mount, it shines against the darkness in Gaza, Lebanon and Syria, and perhaps in some coming year over Jerusalem.

Telling (talk) 07:08, December 26, 2024 (EST)

Thanks. Once in a while a read

https://www.frontpagemag.com/ - a true conservative beacon.Dianne3000 (talk) 12:46, December 26, 2024 (EST)

R.I.P. Ludmila... she escaped the WW2-nazis but not...

Who does that? Stabbing an 80-year-old?

Allah Akbar..

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-835107 Dianne3000 (talk) 12:53, December 27, 2024 (EST)

What a sad story of Ludmila Lipofsky . And in a way encapsules how the two generations have been fighting for survival.Telling (talk)

F-16/Azerbaijan Airline shoot downs

Apparently, the F-16 shot down over Zaporozhye by an Su-57 was launching a Storm Shadow toward Russian air defenses near the Caspian at about the same time Russian air defenses in the Caspian fired back, and the Azerbaijan passenger airline was hit with shrapnel.

Some may call it an "accident", however it likely was pretty well planned by CIA to attack deep inside Russia and expose commercial airline traffic to risk. Consider it part of the "sanctions" program, forcing the shutdown of passenger airline traffic hundreds of kilometres inside Russian borders and neighboring countries. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:28, December 28, 2024 (EST)

Consider, Russia has been hit by ATACMS missiles originally sold to South Korea, marking another escalation in the conflict, Dec 19, 2024, Jet carrying 181 people crashes and bursts into flames while trying to land in South Korea, Dec. 28, 2024. This kind of tit-for-tat terrorism & assassinations can go on for decades, if President Trump wishes to follow the neocons into Cold War II. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:44, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Air Canada flight lands with broken landing gear at Halifax airport. Only minor injuries, Dec. 28, 2024. Comment: There is no point in being a cheerleader for Russophobia and warmonger for terrorism against the civilian population. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:06, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Recall for example, the Israeli pager attack on Hezbollah was years in the making. If the US and deep state terror attacks on the Russian civilian population target commercial airlines, you can bet retaliatory measures have been in place for years. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 15:11, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Fourth plane crash in four days. Now to educate and inform the public in a coming New Cold War, it requires walking back much of the anti-Russia propaganda we've been spoon fed for years already. Namely, admitting Russia has superior electronic warfare capabilities. Capabilities that not only can seize control of a drone or disrupt operations of an F-16 or F-35, a commercial airline is child's play to mess with. So just keep cheerleading the Crocus Hall terror attack, assassinations of high-profile people in Moscow, and blaming Russia for shooting down commercial airliners. See where it leads in a New Cold War if Trump fails in his promise to end the killing. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:09, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Korybko quoting Azeri President Aliyev: “the initial theories are also quite reasonable and are based on facts.” He believes that the plane was accidentally shot down by Russia, its electronic warfare made the plane even more uncontrollable afterwards, and officials then tried to cover it all up. Regrettably, nowhere in his interview did he mention Ukraine’s drone attacks, which triggered Russian air defenses and electronic warfare.' [24]

Comment: Eventually a discussion (or actually negotiation or international convention) on Artificial Intelligence has to enter in, being electronic warfare and missile defense basically operate on autopilot (which is what the CIA took advantage of in planning the drone attack). RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:20, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire

Remember his repeated denial? The damming (2013) photo article Telling (talk) 19:20, December 28, 2024 (EST)

Here's the full reel of all pictures. It was Stephen Miller's America First Legal that won disclosure of the pictures in court. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 03:33, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Too bad we didn't see it in...2020.Telling (talk) 03:42, December 30, 2024 (EST)

When scrolling through those photos, you have to remember the context. In Hunter Biden's own words: "the f****** spy chief of China who started the company that my partner, who is worth $323 billion, founded and is now missing. The richest man in the world is missing who was my partner. He was missing since I last saw him in his $58 million apartment inside a $4 billion deal to build the f****** largest f***** LNG [liquid natural gas] port in the world. [25]

He's referring Ye Jianming. I'd like to identify Ye, if he's in one of those photos. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 04:08, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Maybe that is Ye, [26] in the first series of a dozen photos or so. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 04:17, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Editorial "Indeed, if Team Biden had called out the phony reports of famine and “genocide” from the start, and fully backed Israel’s defensive war, the fighting might well have ended by now"

Post-election, Team Biden finally slams a bogus claim about famine in Gaza By Post Editorial Board.

Well said re PallyWeid.Telling (talk) 15:02, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Jimmy Carter, RIP

According to Dan Rather, Jimmy Carter was "a man of honesty." A major theme of the Carter presidency was to claim that we would run out of oil and everything else in ten years time. Okay, everyone makes mistakes. But Carter and his backers don't see this one as a mistake at all. Instead, they proudly claim credit as prophets of "climate change." Promoting inefficient technology was the point all along. Which apocalypse we were trying to head off was just an afterthought.

As an ex-president, Carter was somehow even more destructive than he had been as president. His response to his defeat in the 1980 election was to claim that Ronald Reagan won by conspiring to delay the release of hostages held in Iran. "It’s almost nauseating to think that this could be true," Carter said, as if this was a theory that somebody else was responsible for. The ludicrous "October surprise" theory, as it was called, obsessed the American political class for a decade. See "Gee, Why Can’t Trump Accept Defeat Like the Democrats?"

Update. I didn't even get to Carter's inflation and Middle East policies. Here is NR: "to maintain the buying power that $100 had on the month Carter was sworn into office, you’d need $150 by the time he left the White House just four years later" and "His obsessive hatred of Israel, and pompous belief that only he could forge Middle East peace, led him to befriend terrorists and lash out at American Jews who criticized him." PeterKa (talk) 01:20, December 30, 2024 (EST)

SNL on Jimmy Carter: 'Inflation is our friend'. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 01:25, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Paradox Carter. Though we appreciate his activities in humanitarian areas, he (his Israelophbia) has been 'explained,' he carried a grudge for losing his political career to radical Islam (i.e. Iran hostage taking) At that time, Islamic Iran was only at war with the US, not with Israel, which only decades later on focued more on, as being an "extension" of US: Big/little "satan" what Khomeini called/used as terminology, but instead of turning against the enemy he ironically turned against the very victim of jihad. Paradoxically. Telling (talk) 01:45, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Footnote to history: It was Obama/Biden & Hillary that tore up the Camp David Accords and threw it in the trash with the "Arab Spring". That was a prelude to the Maidan coup & Russiagate.

Incidentally, has there ever been a more obvious, cooked up, external interference in sovereign state affairs by the CIA/NYT than the "Arab Spring"? Its name, "Arab Spring", might be recognizable to brainwashed Western audiences, but Arabs never heard of it and didn't know what the NYT & CIA operatives were talking about.

And to sell the idea of an "Arab Spring" to Western audiences, the younger generation of Obama followers had to be educated that Russia was the boogeyman again. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 02:29, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Aiding the Mujahideen was his admin.Telling (talk)

Update on that: The US & Russia now are in sort of a competition to cozy up to the Mujahideen/Taliban, after both having fought wars against them. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 04:24, December 30, 2024 (EST)

HAMAS: “Our issue is not just Palestine, our mission is to kill every infidel. We will follow Jews and Christians all over the world. Either they convert to Islam or we’ll kill them!”

Quami Sika, Oct 6, 2024.

Hamas terrorists: “Our issue is not just Palestine, our mission is to kill every infidel. We will follow Jews and Christians all over the world. Either they convert to Islam or we’ll kill them!” Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be destroyed. On FB

Dr. Maalouf ‏@realMaalouf: Hamas terrorists: “Our cause is not just Palestine, our mission is to kill every infidel.

We will follow Jews and Christians all over the world. Either they convert to Islam or we’ll kill them!”

Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be destroyed!

Dec 19, 2024. On X Telling (talk) 03:46, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Biden remembers

What is Joe Biden's greatest regret? Appointing Merrick Garland as attorney general. Garland was too slow to prosecute Donald Trump, too quick to prosecute Hunter Biden, at least in Joe's view. As he sees it, the Department of Justice should have been paving the way for his reelection by prosecuting his opponents. That's his "vision of democracy," as the Washington Post calls it. Of course Biden weaponized the DOJ and tried to fix the election! "Republicans have been arguing that the prosecutions of Trump were entirely political.... Now, the Post admits it with a shrug," according to "Biden Angry That Lawfare Was Too Slow to Destroy Trump."

The lawfare against Trump isn't over. E. Jean Carroll won an appeal against Trump for $5 million. Carroll claims that Trump walked into her dressing room at Bergdoff's in 1996 and raped her. She didn't accuse Trump of anything until after the statute of limitations expired, so the legal basis for this case in convoluted. The accusation echoes an episode of Law and Order, her favorite show. Trump was already a celebrity at the time. Surely somebody would have noticed. PeterKa (talk) 16:54, December 31, 2024 (EST)