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DeSantis and Haley challenge Trump to show up on the Debate Stage for which only 3 Candidates have qualified
Donald Duck Trump needs to stop "ducking" the debates and show up sooner or later. He may show up before New Hampshire, but skip Iowa. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:31, January 3, 2024 (EST)
What a coincidence
Now we get to see who's pro-big government and who's pro-Second Amendment. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:14, January 4, 2024 (EST)
Biden possible drop out and possible Michele Obama running
It seems Democrats now admitting that Biden isnt favorite to win re election and even CNN admit that. Biden willnt get support of Black and minorities votes, so he will not win. But the what GOP isnt aware that possible Biden drop out and let Michelle Obama to be the Democrat candidate. According to JP Morgan strategist that Joe Biden will drop out of the presidential race due to poor health sometime between Super Tuesday and the November election. Then the DNC would name a replacement candidate. Dems think that Michelle Obama will get Black and minorities votes and win --Alex Kosh (talk) 20:09, January 7, 2024 (EST)
https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1744059335909523689 --Alex Kosh (talk) 20:23, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- The Democrats are counting on Trump being reputationally damaged by a guilty verdict on the Washington, D.C. court case on J6 which favors Democrats because juries in this liberal district are Democrats and anti-Trump. It might backfire and make Trump the Nelson Mandela of the USA - especially if the Supreme Court speedily accepts the case and overrules the verdict.
- And Biden is hoping the economy will improve. But there is a lag between inflation moderating and people recognizing it is moderating. So even if inflation markedly improves, it could be too late for Biden. Plus, the economy could get worse. Conservative (talk) 20:34, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- Even if economy improved, Biden will still unfavorable, especially to Blacks. Thats why I think Dems will replace him --Alex Kosh (talk) 20:48, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- With all his broken border disastrous policy, Latinos, surprisingly, turn away from him.Telling (talk) 21:27, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- Obama and Clyburn have turned on Biden. Biden time is over. I've wanted to say that for years. PeterKa (talk) 07:22, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Polls indicate that the economy is the number one issue.[1] And Biden's foreign policy is a trainwreck. Many legal Latino immigrants don't like Biden's border policy. People want peace and prosperity and Biden is failing. So Biden is playing the J6 card and the lawfare card.
- What a joke. You've been peddling the Biden/Deep State foreign policy religiously verbatim for 2 years, and no amount of spamming this page will change that. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:59, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Right now, the Democrats are very slightly favored to win the White House according to data compiled from the political betting markets.[2]
- Polls indicate that the economy is the number one issue.[1] And Biden's foreign policy is a trainwreck. Many legal Latino immigrants don't like Biden's border policy. People want peace and prosperity and Biden is failing. So Biden is playing the J6 card and the lawfare card.
- Obama and Clyburn have turned on Biden. Biden time is over. I've wanted to say that for years. PeterKa (talk) 07:22, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- With all his broken border disastrous policy, Latinos, surprisingly, turn away from him.Telling (talk) 21:27, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- Even if economy improved, Biden will still unfavorable, especially to Blacks. Thats why I think Dems will replace him --Alex Kosh (talk) 20:48, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- The economy is going to be a key issue in the 2024 election. "The Federal Reserve’s forecasting tool currently puts the odds of a recession within 12 months at 51.84%, its highest reading in four decades."[3]. "As a result, U.S. economic growth is projected to be 2.4% in 2023 and 1.5% in 2024. These figures are below the G20 averages of 3.1% for 2023 and 2.8% for 2024, but above the OECD averages of 1.7% and 1.4% for the same years". - Forbes, December 2023.[4] "Private sector experts expect inflation to drop below 2.5% in 2024, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis. Goldman Sachs projects core PCE inflation will fall to around 2.4% by December 2024. The firm anticipates rebalancing in the auto, labor and housing rental markets will spearhead the disinflation." - Forbes, January 2024.[5]
- Since the economy is slightly favored to be in recession in 2024 and the public doesn't usually recognize that inflation is over until several months afterwards, that is why the Democrats are engaging in lawfare and hoping Biden's incumbency is going to be enough to win the 2024 presidential election. Presidents whose president terms that are under an economic recesssion during an election year never win the presidency. So that is the biggest risk to Biden's presidency. A signficant enough terrorism attack caused by terrorists crossing a pourous border would be devastating too. Conservative (talk) 09:18, January 8, 2024 (EST)
Michelle Obama has no fire in her belly when it comes to running for president or when it comes to politics.[6] As far as Americans, "a mere 6% of respondents in this survey of 2,250 adults say that, overall, women make better political leaders than men."[7]
American diplomacy/relations with other nations could use some improvement. And its still a man's world - particularly in the key regions of the Middle East, China/Asia and Russia. Conservative (talk) 09:43, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- I expect Biden to be replaced with Kamala Harris. I have not seen any news stories that suggest Michelle is in the running. Gavin Newsom obviously wants the job, but, come on, he's a white man. PeterKa (talk) 12:19, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- I think the odds of Biden dying this year is greater than him dropping out of the race. The longer he is president, the less likely it is that he will face criminal charges. If Trump wins, Trump may go after the jugular when it comes to Biden so Biden and/or his family members could wind up in prison. "Given those factors, it might be reasonable to bump up Biden’s 31.35 percent chance of dying in office to perhaps 50 percent." - Source: Biden’s life expectancy — and its implications, The Hill, July 2023. Conservative (talk) 13:06, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- "Between 1936 and 2012, 11 out of 14 presidents seeking a second White House term were re-elected. This success rate convinced many that, as with other elected offices, incumbency offers distinct advantages for the presidency.", source: Incumbency Is No Longer an Advantage in Presidential Elections. I still think the conventional wisdom is right and the author of this article is wrongheaded.
- I think the odds of Biden dying this year is greater than him dropping out of the race. The longer he is president, the less likely it is that he will face criminal charges. If Trump wins, Trump may go after the jugular when it comes to Biden so Biden and/or his family members could wind up in prison. "Given those factors, it might be reasonable to bump up Biden’s 31.35 percent chance of dying in office to perhaps 50 percent." - Source: Biden’s life expectancy — and its implications, The Hill, July 2023. Conservative (talk) 13:06, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Unfortunately for Biden, his presidency is Jimmy Carter 2.0 so he might drop out, but I think the Democrats are better off with an incumbent because the Democrats don't have a deep bench when it comes to strong presidential candidates. Elizabeth "Pocahantas" Warren toasted her reputation with her DNA test. Conservative (talk) 13:13, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- 10 months is an eternity in politics. And presidents are loathe to give up power. Biden thinks he can still turn this around via the economy improving and bashing down Trump. And Biden has the MSM media on his side. Post Trump's first term, the MSM is not as strong as it used to be, but it still packs a punch. See: Media Confidence in U.S. Matches 2016 Record Low. [[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] (talk) 14:06, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Unfortunately for Biden, his presidency is Jimmy Carter 2.0 so he might drop out, but I think the Democrats are better off with an incumbent because the Democrats don't have a deep bench when it comes to strong presidential candidates. Elizabeth "Pocahantas" Warren toasted her reputation with her DNA test. Conservative (talk) 13:13, January 8, 2024 (EST)
If the Democrats were smart, they would kick Kamala Harris out of the White House and make Michelle Obama the VP. Then they would have 4 more years to develop a person to be the presidential candidate in 2028. But I don't think Barack/Michelle Obama want to have their legacy tied to the Biden legacy so that is probably a nonstarter. Conservative (talk) 16:22, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Just in: Michelle Obama said that she is terrified from next election link
- It seems Obamas want Michelle Obama to run but Biden family and especially Jill Biden arnt accept the drop out until now --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:11, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- From the comedian Bill Burr: Nothing Will Change With Trump As President: "I don't understand why everyone is so upset. You know what is going to happen to you? If you liked Obama did he call you at all in the last 8 years? Did he ever put a sandwhich on your table? You do that. You're going to keep doing that. You're gonna be fine... I feel like the president. You only see him once every three weeks.. It's like if you were dating a chick and she was a jerk and you only saw her once every 3 weeks. There is no way that she could break your heart."
- There is something to be said for hard/smart work and having trust in God.
- And Michelle Obama is not terrified of the next election. Obama has a presidential salary until he dies and the Obamas make big bucks for speaking engagements and other means (Netflix, etc.). Michelle Obama's life will not change very much if Trump becomes president. It's just empty liberal virtue signaling and empty drama queen behavior. Liberal elites rarely move to Canada due to presidential elections. Conservative (talk) 17:52, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- With that being said, I am grateful for Trump's SCOTUS appointments and the good economy under Trump before the pandemic. Conservative (talk) 18:42, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- And Michelle Obama is not terrified of the next election. Obama has a presidential salary until he dies and the Obamas make big bucks for speaking engagements and other means (Netflix, etc.). Michelle Obama's life will not change very much if Trump becomes president. It's just empty liberal virtue signaling and empty drama queen behavior. Liberal elites rarely move to Canada due to presidential elections. Conservative (talk) 17:52, January 8, 2024 (EST)
Michael Robinson carries some baggage. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:28, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Here is the latest from the New York Post: "Don’t be shocked if Michelle Obama sneaks her way into 2024 race." PeterKa (talk) 23:27, January 18, 2024 (EST)
DeSantis is going to win Iowa, and it won't be close. DeSantis internal poll has 60,000 Caucus Commitment Cards
"DeSantis internal poll is 60,000 caucus commitment cards!!!" https://twitter.com/jba437/status/1744566432988336283
For comparison: "Ted Cruz was able to defeat Donald Trump in the Iowa Caucus by winning over Evangelical caucus-goers;[1] Cruz won 51,666 caucus votes or 27.6%, giving him a net gain of one delegate over Trump. Cruz visited all 99 counties of Iowa and held small events.[2] Cruz outperformed his polling average, which predicted a narrow Trump victory in the caucus. Following poor performances in the caucuses, Rand Paul,[3] Mike Huckabee[4] and Rick Santorum[5] suspended their campaigns." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Iowa_Republican_presidential_caucuses
Forget what the Liberal Media and their Liberal Polls are telling you. If that internal polling is even remotely accurate, with 60,000 to 100,000 caucus votes, likely somewhere between 30% to 50% of an estimated 200,000 voters, all beside DeSantis and Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa, and DeSantis will have the momentum going into NH. Don't be duped by the Zionist Psy-Op from the Liberal Media.
It is a Mossad like operation. Remember the Deceptive Motto of Non-Abrahamic Deceptive Mossad...NishantXavierFor Christ the King 02:49, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- All one has to see is , again NishantXavier bigoted spam and total inaccuracies. While conservative Jews' Zionism is in fact anti Liberal and against Soros - who is anti-Zionist. Zionist-Abrahamic is against - Pro-Hamas-Soros[8][9]Telling (talk) 05:05, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- As per using Wikipedia as a source, Wikipedia founder Larry Sanger says CIA & FBI control Wikipedia. Iowa is a contest for the second place finisher between DeSantis & the Deep State Democrat preferred Nikki Haley, which one will advance to Super Tuesday. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 09:02, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Trump is doggedly pursuing another term as president. He is not going to drop out after Iowa. That is wishful thinking. Conservative (talk) 07:00, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- I think you missed the context of this discussion. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 09:32, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- NishantXavier literally wrote above: "Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa". Conservative (talk) 09:39, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Oh, okay. So evidently you agree with Nishant's analysis that Deep State-controlled Wikipedia is a valid source. That kinda contradicts why Conservapedia was founded.
- You know, me and LT joined Larry Sanger's Slack group, but LT has a problem sticking to a plan and commitment. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 09:49, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- NishantXavier literally wrote above: "Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa". Conservative (talk) 09:39, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- I think you missed the context of this discussion. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 09:32, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Trump is doggedly pursuing another term as president. He is not going to drop out after Iowa. That is wishful thinking. Conservative (talk) 07:00, January 9, 2024 (EST)
I didn't say that Trump will likely drop out after Iowa. Typical example of selective quoting. Here's the broader quotation for the context: "all beside DeSantis and Trump will likely drop out shortly after Iowa, and DeSantis will have the momentum going into NH"
- I misread your material. The good news is that I am going to be getting a new pair of workable glasses soon with oversize lenses. Because the lenses are so big, my friend whose father is an academic, calls glasses such as these "professor glasses". Conservative (talk) 08:51, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- Ok MaGoo. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:19, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- Another point/angle, with the DeSantis vs Haley on CNN tonight, whether one is for or against Nikki, I believe it's pretty smart of her not to go on the attack on Trump.Dianne3000 (talk) 15:17, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- Ok MaGoo. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:19, January 10, 2024 (EST)
Fair enough, Conservative. Understood. Btw, my prediction is already coming true. Christie dropped out of the race, even before Iowa. Vivek probably will next, as he didn't make the debate. It'll be down to DeSantis vs Trump before long, and I think he'll do very well then, and it effectively is down to Nikki, Vivek, DeSantis and Trump. I think one of the first two may end up being VP, but let's see. It could also be Kim Reynolds or Thomas Massie, both of whom I like too, and who are also close to the Governor, and campaigned with him.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 02:46, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Trump will carry Florida in the general election with or without DeSantis on the ticket - he doesn't need him. Kari Lake makes a lot more sense. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:49, January 11, 2024 (EST)
For better or worse, populism is where the GOP base is (Blue collar working class people especially). And they are not going to vote for the Trump-Lite candidate DeSantis as long as Trump is a viable candidate. Because why have Trump lite when you can have Trump. DeSantis is funded by the business/establishment part/class of the GOP. And Nikky Haley is too much of a neocon for the GOP base which is sick of America's forever wars.
NishantXavier, I know you are going to come back that DeSantis is more of a family man and religious man, but unfortunately people like that don't win elections now (Rick Santorum's and Mike Huckabee's presidential candidicies failed). But this could change as religious people are having more kids than nonreligious/irreligious people and there is a growing backlash against the liberalism taught in public schools and universities.
One of the main ways America's Christian conservatives are getting their way on the federal level of government is by proverbially sneaking conservative Christian policies in through the back door by putting pressure on predidential candidates and presidents to appoint conservative judges such as the SCOTUS court and to enact conservative policies. While this approach turned over Roe vs. Wade, the same SCOTUS court approved homosexual "marriages". To give another illustration, the famous strategist Sun Tzu wrote: ""In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. In battle, there are not more than two methods of attack – the direct and the indirect; yet these two in combination give rise to an endless series of maneuvers." Christian conservatism wins at the federal level are largely gained now by indirect methods (Puting pressure on presidential candidates and presidents to appoint conservative judges and enact conservative policies) rather than directly getting a hardcore Christian conservative into the presidential office. Conservative (talk) 16:47, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- So let's analyze the meaning of the claim that DeSantis had 60,000 commitment cards out of 110,000 total caucus goers, and finished with 21%.
- What was the participation rate?
- What is the source of the claim DeSantis had a 50% majority before going into the caucuses?
- RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:05, January 16, 2024 (EST)
As for Mossad, it's not Abrahamic, because it's not Abrahamic in faith and values. Devout Jewish Conservatives who are anti-ADL are. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:02, January 10, 2024 (EST)
The ADL is also not Abrahamic in faith and values, but rather Kabbalic and Satanic, as Jesus told some who bragged they were sons of Abraham, that they were rather sons of the Devil, because they were Devilish in faith and values, and were plotting to kill Him.
He who wants to kill and brutally torture Christian Children in Abortionist Terrorism is also Devilish rather than Abrahamic, and Conservapedia has well documented that the ADL is such: "Its general stance on prayer in secular schools is that it is "unconstitutional."[2] The ADL also has a record of supporting gay rights, the separation of church and state,[3] hate crimes legislation, abortion and partial-birth abortion.[4] There is also evidence to suggest that the founders may have been Fabian socialists.[5]
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), originally known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith ("B'nai B'rith" meaning "Order of the Covenant" or "Order of the Cut", referring to circumcision) is a left-wing Jewish organization founded in 1913 ...
The League has been criticized for attacking politically conservative Jews such as Dr. Laura Schlessinger.[7] The Jewish World Review stated that the League was "demonizing exponents of Jewish values",[8] while the National Prayer Network held that the ADL's past legislative involvement "empowered synagogue to mix with state by authorizing itself to teach the US Justice Department, FBI and all local police about hate crimes."[9]" https://www.conservapedia.com/Anti-Defamation_League
Well, well, promoting Separation of Church and State in Christian-Majority America, then empowering Synagogue to mix with State in persecuting Conservative Christians and Traditional Catholics. The Plot Thickens: Taken from Conservapedia's informative article on: https://www.conservapedia.com/Anti-Defamation_League Well done to those editors. God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:05, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- Another ranting hate posting by NishantXavier. A salad between the CIA Israeli version (Mossad) unrelated to religion at all, and a group fighting antisemitism (but ADL's Greenblatt has been criticized by conservative Jews for getting involved in unrelated stuff like woke). BTW. Israel is mostly non religious. Though most do believe in God.Telling (talk) 10:05, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- But NishantXavier has a routine of slamming Jews, or anything that is or preceived to be related to them, however the tool and opportunity arises.Dianne3000 (talk) 15:02, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- I think it started when some ultra Orthodox Jews zealots were spitting on/towards Christian pilgrims and other Christians such as Christian clergy in Israel. Conservative (talk) 23:27, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- NishantXavier spammed poison before that. And at the time has only highlighted that case by exclusively stressing on those few but not on the ultra-Orthodox Talmudists who turned over the 2 youths spitters to Zionist authorities who punished them or omitted the overwhelming religious organizations groups, rabbis all against that thing. It's not that case at all. But a constant routine of hatred. Even his terminology+mixing unrelated things he uses, is often typically Neo Nazi or and KKK type. In addition, take a look at this sample of his horrendous malicious lie - asides the fact that he mixes contradictory ideologies... one opposing the other into one salad - all for his unholy "holy war."Telling (talk) 00:34, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- I think it started when some ultra Orthodox Jews zealots were spitting on/towards Christian pilgrims and other Christians such as Christian clergy in Israel. Conservative (talk) 23:27, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- But NishantXavier has a routine of slamming Jews, or anything that is or preceived to be related to them, however the tool and opportunity arises.Dianne3000 (talk) 15:02, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- Another ranting hate posting by NishantXavier. A salad between the CIA Israeli version (Mossad) unrelated to religion at all, and a group fighting antisemitism (but ADL's Greenblatt has been criticized by conservative Jews for getting involved in unrelated stuff like woke). BTW. Israel is mostly non religious. Though most do believe in God.Telling (talk) 10:05, January 10, 2024 (EST)
- What rubbish. I did not spam any "poison". I educated ignorant Souls about what the Talmud teaches. I'm a credible editor with a long history of seriousness, far more than some of you. I run ReasonstobeChristian.com website. More and more of the evil that the Talmud teaches is coming to Light. You can either educate yourself about Jewish Supremacist ideologies that view "Goyim" or Gentiles as sub-human cattle and want to kill or enslave millions of us, or you can remain willfully blind. I will shake of the dust if you do. Everything I said, I documented with unimpeachable links and sources. I also specifically commended Good Jews like Dr. Laura Schlessinger and others. I'm not talking about. I'm talking about Talmudist Supremacy, which is as bad or worse than Communism and Nazism. If we can criticize Russians or Germans when some of them behave badly, we can perfectly legitimately criticize Jews when some of them behave badly. There are none so blind as will not see. Read the Talmud first, become an expert on what it teaches about "Goyim", and then you can talk....NishantXavierFor Christ the King 02:43, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- What a total rubbish out of infamous Hitlerist GDL flyers... on and on NishantXavier has no shame.Dianne3000 (talk) 05:10, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- There is no quick and easy solution to the Gaza situation. This difficult situation has been going on since the Jews won the 1967 Six Day War. With that being said, the Six Day War was remarkable and there were signs that God intervened on behalf of the Jews (See: GOD'S HAND IN THE SIX DAY WAR and Did God Help Israel During The Six Day War? and Six Days of Miracles and Fmr Israeli Commander: God Protected us in Battle). Conservative (talk) 07:42, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Mixing things up .Nobody's talking about Gaza. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:10, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- There is no quick and easy solution to the Gaza situation. This difficult situation has been going on since the Jews won the 1967 Six Day War. With that being said, the Six Day War was remarkable and there were signs that God intervened on behalf of the Jews (See: GOD'S HAND IN THE SIX DAY WAR and Did God Help Israel During The Six Day War? and Six Days of Miracles and Fmr Israeli Commander: God Protected us in Battle). Conservative (talk) 07:42, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- What a total rubbish out of infamous Hitlerist GDL flyers... on and on NishantXavier has no shame.Dianne3000 (talk) 05:10, January 11, 2024 (EST)
Ms Dianne, you need to read this, from Jewish Site Ynet News: "Stalin's Jews We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish ... And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system." https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
It has nothing to do with Hitler, who I condemn. Even Churchill was aware that many of the Jewish Bolsheviks who persecuted some 60 MN Christians - as Alexander Solzhenitsyn estimated - were in fact Bolshevik Jews. So do you condemn those Bolshevik Jews who persecuted Christians?
See: "Terrorist Jews. There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek – all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing." https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
Today, this is of relevance because Jews gain weapons from Western Christians, then use those weapons against Middle Eastern Christians. They do this in Armenia, in Palestine, and recently Mossad/IDF Snipers targeted and killed two Christian women going to the latrine. Those Christian women could have been you, Dianne. Do you not care about your sisters in Christ/in conservatism? Don't spread false lies and malicious slanders about me. I am a Catholic Christian, and I love everyone. But I boldly rebuke plain evil when I see it without fear or favor. I am not calling for any kind of genocide, but trying to stop the planned genocide of 2.5 MN Palestinians, many of whom, if the plans of Mossad succeed, will emigrate to America and Europe, and then be radicalized against the local Christian populations there. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:08, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Yea, we. Noticed the G word thing, though it is anti zionists who use the Talmud for their ideology and Zionists use the Biblical text before Talmud expansion on it.(That phrase he used, was debunked, including at the Dreyfus trial. Talking about education. But only racists interpret it the way as he wants to. BTW, Every religion things it is the true one and above all other religions), the favorite by neo nezis. What's next? He has basically promoted that ancient (1903) invented canard idea - Hitler's favorite pushing "protocols" forgery, wrapping it into contemporary excuses. (As a liar Nishant also portrays 97% Muslim "Palestinians" in Gaza as supposed "Christians".
- Nishant, seriously, you need to do some studying. These two sentences: "More and more of the evil that the Talmud teaches is coming to Light. You can either educate yourself about Jewish Supremacist ideologies that view "Goyim" or Gentiles as sub-human cattle and want to kill or enslave millions of us" could have came straight out of Mein Kampf. Seriously. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:14, January 11, 2024 (EST)
The Jewish Virtual Library website (The website is run by the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise) indicates: "Since talmudic literature spans over half a millennium, covering a wide geographic area, attitudes toward gentiles expressed in it vary considerably. In fact, it reveals a whole spectrum of opinions from the extreme antipathy of the tormented Jew of Hadrian's time – e.g., Simeon b. Yoḥai's statement: The best of gentiles should be killed (TJ, Kid. 4:11, 66c) – to the moderate views expressed in the more friendly atmosphere of early Sassanid Babylon – witness Samuel's making no distinction between Israel and the nations on the Day of Judgment (TJ, RH 1:3, 57a). Thus all such statements must be seen in their specific geographical-historical context. Nevertheless, in general it may be said that the Jew's attitude toward the gentile was largely conditioned by the gentile's attitude toward him (see Esth. R. 2:3), so that a gentile's friendship to a Jew would be warmly and uninhibitedly reciprocated (see BK 38a, and witness the relationships between Meir and Avnimos ha-Gardi, Judah ha-Nasi and Antoninus, Samuel and Sapor, etc.)."[10] Conservative (talk) 15:31, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- One of the old infamous persecution of Jews by using Talmud text erroneously, was the Beilis Trial. Which ended in embrassament for the prosecutors for ignorance.
The trial of Beilis took place in Kiev from September 25 through October 28, 1913. The chief prosecutor A.I. Vipper made anti-Jewish statements in his closing address and defended the Cheberiak gang against the charge of Yushchinsky's murder. Beilis was represented by the most able counsels of the Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Kiev bars: Vassily Maklakov, Oscar O. Grusenberg, N.P. Karabchevsky, A.S. Zarundy, and D.N. Grigorovitch-Barsky. The lamplighter and his wife, on whose testimony the indictment of Beilis rested, when questioned by the presiding judge, answered, "We know nothing at all." They confessed that both had been confused by the secret police and made to answer questions they did not comprehend. "Scientific" foundation for the blood libel was supplied at the trial by a Catholic priest with a criminal record, Justin Pranaitis, who stated that the murder of Yushchinsky had all the characteristics of ritual murder enjoined by the Jewish religion. His arguments were refuted by the rabbi of Moscow, Jacob *Mazeh , who proved that Pranaitis was ignorant of the talmudic texts cited. Two Russian professors of high standing, Troitsky and Kokovtzoff, also spoke on behalf of the defense in praise of Jewish values and exposed the falsity of the ritual murder hypothesis. The jury, composed of simple Russian peasants, after several hours of deliberation unanimously declared Beilis "not guilty." JVL.
Expedia cites this link.
The Bible, in Ezekiel.34.31: [11] 'For you, My flock, flock that I tend, are ADAM; and I am your God—declares the Lord GOD.'
Which a Talmud verse is based on. (Like the entire Talmud is, based on the Hebrew Bible, Tanakh). This was misrepresented by the prosecutor at the trial. It's ludicrous to suggest that the Bible considers others supposedly "not human".
This was part of what Rabbi Maze mentioned when replied to the antisemitic prosecutor.
Some Hebrew words have multiple/different meaning, depending on the context. So what is the specific meaning of ADAM in this case?(Source - Rabbi Yaakov Galinsky VeHigadeta, Vayikra, p. 196), what it refers to in this case is Adam vs Ish, Adam as a unified one group of people. As opposed to many separate, unconnected individuals.100 Years Since The Mendel Beilis Trial- Blood Libel Refuses To Die, "You're called Adam", Shemot: Of Rachmanut and Redemption. In fact, the Talmud includes Gentiles specifically, twice. Tmurah 2b Sanhedrin 56a and more. (Source, Galinsky, ibid).Telling (talk) 20:45, January 11, 2024 (EST)
Such Talmudsplaining avails nothing, one could justify the Quran too by such sophistry. Also, some people seem not to realize I oppose all Persecution of Christians, not only Jewish Persecution of Christians, like Itamir Ben Gvir is complicit in, but also Islamist Persecution of Christians. Any True Christian takes the side of Persecuted Christians, regardless of whether it is Jews or Muslims persecuting them.
"It is prohibited to raise a gentile from a pit even in exchange for payment, because one can say an excuse to him, such as: My son is standing on the roof and I must go use this ladder to help him down from the roof. Alternatively, he can say to him: A time has been appointed for me to appear in the courthouse [bei davar] and I must attend to this matter. Since the Jew can provide a legitimate excuse for refusing to aid the gentile, there is no need to extract him from the pit." https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talmud_on_gentiles
In numerous ways, the Talmud shows over and over again that it is ok with killing Gentiles, that it views Goyim as subhuman without a right to life etc. Again, as St. Bernadette famously said, it is my duty to inform, not to convince. Anti-Gentilism is as much a sin as Anti-Semitism. I am not promoting Anti-Semitism, which means hatred or dislike of all Jews. I am calling out the Talmud on its Anti-Gentilism, which means hatred or dislike of all Gentiles, which it repeatedly promotes, even more than the Quran does of non-Muslims. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:42, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- "the Talmud shows over and over again". Have you read the Talmud? Have you ever even seen the Talmud?
- This is what's known in the art of rhetoric as "hyperbolic bluster". You should choose your words better if you wish to maintain credibility. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:50, January 11, 2024 (EST)
Yes, I have read it. Have you? This is just argument from incredulity, you can't believe it could really say these things, therefore you accuse those criticizing it, after having read it, of not "really" reading it or something.
See this too: "𝙎𝙚𝙭𝙪𝙖𝙡 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙘𝙤𝙪𝙧𝙨𝙚 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙖 𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙩𝙡𝙚 𝙜𝙞𝙧𝙡 𝙞𝙨 𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙢𝙞𝙩𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙞𝙛 𝙨𝙝𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙧𝙚𝙚 𝙮𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙖𝙜𝙚. (𝙆𝙚𝙩𝙝𝙪𝙗𝙤𝙩𝙝 11𝙗)
An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl less than three years old has done 𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴, as intercourse with a girl less than three years old is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye. In the case of an eye, after a tear falls from it another tear forms to replace it. Similarly, the ruptured hymen of the girl younger than three is restored." https://twitter.com/itsmorganariel/status/1745551453618385108 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:54, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- No, I have not read the Talmud. But I've read Mein Kampf in 3 different translations and bunch of other Holocaust literature and anti-Semitic writings and arguments from those times. And your whole presentation here comes straight out of the body of those anti-Semitic tracs that appeared after circulation of the Protocols in 1890s upto World War II. It's nothing new, and hardly a "revelation" as you try to sell it. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:21, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Look at the language you use: "Jewish Supremacist". Where'd you get that phrase, The Talmudic Roots of Jewish Supremacism by Dr. David Duke? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:36, January 11, 2024 (EST)
Note to others. My reply was and is not intended to that NishantXavier - a fanatic hater who won't listen to reason and truth, but to others on the site About him mixing and linking three different ideologies including anti-Talmud-Commmnist to blend all into his venomous longtime campaign - I have mentioned above...
Now it's Israel;
tomorrow, it's unrelated anti-Talmud-Communists;
then it's about an opposite which is Talmud;
his attemts to link secular dominated IDF to "religion".
Whatevet chance he can bash that one group - his horrific obsession. His verbatim-style sounds straight out of Neo Nazi sites.
May God have mercy on his soul.
The entire list of those quotes have been debunked and explained. Long before Nishant was born. This is from 1937 at Nazis risehttps://www.jta.org/archive/oxford-professor-defends-talmud-against-nazi-accusation This is at the early years of internet https://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/ Here is a pdf and https://aish.com/misquoting-the-talmud/
and https://blog.nli.org.il/en/against_the_talmud/ There is no need for me to do that here.
Speaking of TALMUD quotes:
To break a verbal engagement, though legally not binding, is a moral wrong.
—The Talmud
Topics: Truth
Who is a wise man? He who looks into the future.
—The Talmud
Topics: Wisdom
Anger profiteth nobody.
—The Talmud
Topics: Anger
Ignorance and conceit go hand in hand.
—The Talmud
Topics: Wisdom, Conceit
It is a bounden duty to visit the sick.
—The Talmud
The righteous control their desires, but the desires of the wicked control them.
—The Talmud
It is sinful to deceive any man, be he even a heathen.
—The Talmud
Topics: Truth
Examine the contents, not the bottle.
—The Talmud
He who loves thee scolds thee.
—The Talmud
Topics: Love
Envy, lust, ambition, bring a man to perdition.
—The Talmud
When a son is called to do a service for his parents, he must first see that his person is tidy and clean; for a child must attend to his parents as though they were his king and queen.
—The Talmud
He who cannot bear one word of reproof will have to hear many.
—The Talmud
He who unjustly hands over one man’s goods to another, he shall pay God for it with his own soul.
—The Talmud
Topics: Honesty
The value of the words uttered with the lips is determined by the devotion of the heart.
—The Talmud
Topics: Prayer
The love which shirks from reproving is no love.
—The Talmud
Topics: Love
He who gives way to his wrath makes desolate his house.
—The Talmud
Topics: Anger
The disciples of the wise are engaged all their days in building up the world.
—The Talmud
Topics: Wisdom
The less the merits of a person are, the more he will feel urged to proclaim them to the public.
—The Talmud
The study of God’s Word is the only antidote against temptation.
—The Talmud
Topics: Temptation
Guard thy mouth from uttering an unseemly word.
—The Talmud
Topics: Slander
A man commits sin in secret; but the Holy One proclaims it openly.
—The Talmud
Topics: Sin
He who turns away from the works of love and charity, turns away from God.
—The Talmud
Topics: Charity
Regulate thy will in accordance with God’s will, and submit thy will to His will.
—The Talmud
There is a compensation for everything except our first love.
—The Talmud
Topics: Love
Who is a hero? He who conquers his urges.
—The Talmud
Topics: Heroes
Do not appease thy fellow in his hour of anger; do not comfort him while the dead is still laid out before him; do not question him in the hour of his vow; and do not strive to see him in his hour of misfortune. —The Talmud
What is sweeter than sweetness? Peace after enmity. —The Talmud
Thy friend has a friend, and thy friend’s friend has a friend; be discreet.
—The Talmud
Topics: Gossip
All ailings, only not the ailing of heart; all evils, but not an evil wife. —The Talmud
Simon the Just…used to say, “Upon three things the world stands: On Torah, on (Divine) Service, and on Deeds of Lovingkindness.”
Pirke Avot 1:2
Hillel used to say: ”If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?”
Pirke Avot 1:14
Simeon, the son of Rabban Gamliel, said: “I was brought up all my life among the Sages, and I have found nothing as good for the body as silence, and it is not the study/explication that is the essence – but the practice/doing, and whoever is profuse of words occasions sin.”
Pirke Avot 1:17
Rabban Simeon, son of Gamliel, said, “On three things the world stands: On Judgment, on Truth, and on Peace…”
Pirke Avot 1:18
Rabbi Yose said: ”Let your friend’s property be as precious to you as your own; Give yourself to studying the Torah, for it does not come to you by inheritance; and let all your deeds be done in the name of Heaven.”
Pirke Avot 2:12
He (Rabbi Tarfon) also used to say, “It is not your obligation to complete the task, but neither are you at liberty to desist from it entirely…”
Pirke Avot 2:16
Another teaching of Rabbi Akiva: “Everything is foreseen, yet free will is granted; By goodness is the universe judged, yet all depends on the preponderance of (good) deeds….”
Pirke Avot 3:1
Ben Zoma said, “Who is wise? The one who learns from all people… “Who is mighty? The one who subdues the evil inclination… “Who is rich? The who who rejoices in his portion…. “Who is honored? The one who honors other human beings….”
Pirke Avot 4:1
Rabbi Jacob used to say, “Better is one hour of t’shuvah (returning/repentance) and good deeds in this world than the whole life of the world-to-come and better is one hour of spiritual bliss in the world-to-come than all the the life of this world!”
Pirke Avot 4:17
Rabbi (Meir) said, ”Look not at the flask but at what is therein; There may be a new flask full of old wine, And an old flask wherein is not even new wine.” [inner greatness...]
Pirke Avot 4:20
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but again, his problem is not Talmud or unrelated to it IDF or unrelated opposite which is Communists or other opportunities he fanatically frantically jumps to bash..
Telling (talk) 23:09, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Bigot NishantXavier (cherry picking to put Js. in a bad light):
I'm very very very , but very much concerned about Christians, this is why, upto now I never wrote about Islamic persecution all over - especially in Iran, my-neighbouring-Pakistan, Africa anti-Christian genocide, etc.. but it's the juuz, I mean talmud (but I will use only a sentence that I can use in my war, regardless of its true neaning or context), I mean DeSantis (is "like") mossad, I mean bolsheviks who hate religion and talmud, I mean zionists, I mean communist-anti-Zionists, I mean secular Netanyahu...no, not non-Jewish Italian Fauci, not non-Jewish Greek Jeff Bezos, or non-Jewish Musk, or non-Jewish Buffet or Arab Carlos Slim, not at all. I mean the juuz want to "control" you, it's THEM...hey, I like KKKDavidduke language/ideology....Dianne3000 (talk) 08:59, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- So far I think I have given the most reasonable view about the Jews/Talmud that is somewhere between Dianne3000/Telling and NishantXavier. Given that I have read the Old Testament through, took took two classes related to the Nazis/Holocaust, worked for Jewish organization as their token gentile, and worked for a Jewish owned firm, this is not surprising.
- With the above being said, it appears as if the Talmud is a mixed bag of truth/error and I believe that the Jews made a mistake on having an overemphasis on the Talmud and not enough emphasis on the Torah, the Old Testament prophets and the Old Testament. And being a Christian, I believe that Jesus was the Messiah, the trinity, and the divine inspiration of the New Testament books. Being a non-Catholic Christian, I think the Catholics put too much emphasis on the proclamations of Popes who are also a mixed bag of truth/error. So the Jews are not alone on putting too much reliance on man and not enough on God.
- And being that the Jews have suffered under authoritarian regimes and are educated go getters, it does not surprise me that American Jews are often liberals who embrace liberal democracy (For example, American college educated people tend to be Democrats today). Also, as far as some Jews embracing atheism/Marxism, it is part rebellion against God and partly and errant anger at God for allowing the persecution of the Jews. When you abandon God like many leftists there is the danger of following ungodly, utopian, ideologies like Marxism. And unfortunately, the ADL is liberal/leftist in its ideology.
- With the above being said, God hasn't abandoned the Jews and modern Israel (which fullfils various Old Testament prophecies) and the miraculous events surrounding the Six Day War are proof of this (see my posts previously on main page talk above). Conservative (talk) 11:03, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Ok, Mr. Moderator. Impressive. You've put up quite the defense for the "Semite-led untermensch" the past two years. The Semite-led untermensch don't even have indoor flush toilets. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:25, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- NishantXavier does NOT have a "view on talmud," or a "view" on zionists. He has a Jew hatred problem. You know, they all (anti Zionist G. Soros meets with Netanyahu, everyday, sometimes 5 times a day, it depends on the anti Zionist Talmudists who refuse to serve in the IDF), meet in the heat of night and decide how to "rule."...preferably with space lasers.Telling (talk) 11:42, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- IMO, it shows the danger of anti-Semitic tracs and literature, cause it gets absorbed and repeated rotely without understanding what's being said. What's the solution? Censorship? No, education. Education, understanding, and compassion. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:01, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- No, RobSmith. I showed via various socioeconomic indicators that some countries futures look bright, while others do not. Being mad at me about this is like being mad at the weatherman for forecasting tornados/hurricane for some regions or being mad at a seismologist for forecasting an earthquake for a region. Right now, it looks like significant deflation hitting China, the second biggest economy in the world, and China's current and upcoming steep demographic decline is going to have a BIG effect on the world. Conservative (talk) 12:14, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- The Semite-led untermensch don't have indoor flush toilets. Unfortunately, we have to re-hash this debate with the upcoming vote on the Continuing Resolution. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:23, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Telling and Diane3000, I don't agree with NishantXavier's various opinions/views on the Jews, but for various reasons that will not get into, I think NishantXavier's anger towards the Jews will lesson down the pike. Conservative (talk) 12:14, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- No, RobSmith. I showed via various socioeconomic indicators that some countries futures look bright, while others do not. Being mad at me about this is like being mad at the weatherman for forecasting tornados/hurricane for some regions or being mad at a seismologist for forecasting an earthquake for a region. Right now, it looks like significant deflation hitting China, the second biggest economy in the world, and China's current and upcoming steep demographic decline is going to have a BIG effect on the world. Conservative (talk) 12:14, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- IMO, it shows the danger of anti-Semitic tracs and literature, cause it gets absorbed and repeated rotely without understanding what's being said. What's the solution? Censorship? No, education. Education, understanding, and compassion. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:01, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- NishantXavier does NOT have a "view on talmud," or a "view" on zionists. He has a Jew hatred problem. You know, they all (anti Zionist G. Soros meets with Netanyahu, everyday, sometimes 5 times a day, it depends on the anti Zionist Talmudists who refuse to serve in the IDF), meet in the heat of night and decide how to "rule."...preferably with space lasers.Telling (talk) 11:42, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Ok, Mr. Moderator. Impressive. You've put up quite the defense for the "Semite-led untermensch" the past two years. The Semite-led untermensch don't even have indoor flush toilets. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:25, January 12, 2024 (EST)
I am going to switch back into helping non talk page web pages get more web traffic and various websites get more web traffic. That has been far more impactful/fruitful as far as my past endeavors. I spent too much time on Conservavpedia talk pages in 2023/2024. Andy is right about talk, talk, talk not being a very fruitful endeavor. So am bowing out of this discussion. And I don't expect to get involved in main page talk again. Conservative (talk) 12:23, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Main page talk is like eating processed sugar. It will give you a sugar high and taste sweet at the time, but long term it is not good for you. One of my New Year's resolutions for 2024 is to stay off Conservapedia talk pages as much as possible. But doing friendly/constructive talk page edits can be useful/enjoyable. Conservative (talk) 12:42, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- MPR/talk should be about current news items and qualifying sources. The extraneous stuff belongs at the Community Portal, where anybody can spew their caca ideas. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:50, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Whether NishantXavier's background (before becoming Christian per his saying), there in his India, is Islam or Hinduism, both maintain supremacism. And which religion does not hold itself above the other? While of the three Abrahamic religions, only Judaism does not prosletyze, still it's amazing the singling out.
- MPR/talk should be about current news items and qualifying sources. The extraneous stuff belongs at the Community Portal, where anybody can spew their caca ideas. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:50, January 12, 2024 (EST)
I've lived with evangelicals, beautiful friends too, I've never seen such a rare, weird person, to be such a blind hater carrying that label (evangelical?) along. Oh, and about Talmud? It was Hillel who coined the golden rule.. (1) "If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And being for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?"; (2) "That which is hateful to you, do not do unto your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation;[a] go and learn." It is the expansion of the. Bible, oral interpretation that stems since Moses, through an unbroken chain...
"Moses received the Torah at Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua, Joshua to the elders, and the elders to the prophets, and the prophets to the Men of the Great Assembly. They said three things: Be patient in [the administration of] justice, raise many disciples and make a fence round the Torah." (Avot, 1, 1).Dianne3000 (talk) 13:52, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Re predicting DeSantis will win Iowa
That's a remarkable, unexpected prediction, Nishant, that DeSantis will win Iowa. Startling, contrary predictions like that are what make Conservapedia great. Thanks for being bold, while I expect Trump to prevail in these Iowa caucuses.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:54, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Thank you, Andy. God Bless! It's great we can amicably disagree. I expect it to be DeSantis vs Trump one-on-one and head-to-head shortly after Iowa. Let's see if it pans out that way. But Christie dropping out already means it's effectively a 2 person race arguably, 2 persons in the top tier, Trump and DeSantis, and two persons perhaps running more for VP, namely Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 03:18, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks Andy. Let's see if last night have an impact too. There were some fireworks but not a whole lot.Dianne3000 (talk) 05:17, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Trump is still favored to win the Republican primary and the 2024 election according to the political betting markets.[12][13] The political betting markets data indicates that DeSantis only has a 4% chance of winning the GOP primary.[14] The improbable does happen sometimes, but it does very much look like Trump is going to win the GOP nomination.
- Thanks Andy. Let's see if last night have an impact too. There were some fireworks but not a whole lot.Dianne3000 (talk) 05:17, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Thank you, Andy. God Bless! It's great we can amicably disagree. I expect it to be DeSantis vs Trump one-on-one and head-to-head shortly after Iowa. Let's see if it pans out that way. But Christie dropping out already means it's effectively a 2 person race arguably, 2 persons in the top tier, Trump and DeSantis, and two persons perhaps running more for VP, namely Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 03:18, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- The odds of a Republican winning the 2024 presidential election is now about 3% higher than the Democrats winning it according to the political betting markets.[15] That's a slim margin. I think it is going to come down to the economy (which seems to have a 50/50 chance of getting worse before the election) and what the Supreme Court does in relation to the charges against Trump. Conservative (talk) 08:33, January 11, 2024 (EST)
"New Iowa Poll ranks Trump, DeSantis, Haley ahead of Iowa Caucuses." The Des Moines RegisterTelling (talk) 19:04, January 13, 2024 (EST)
- The only question is, will Trump received a majority or plurality in a three way contest. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:59, January 13, 2024 (EST)
Chris Christie drops out
4 person race, soon to be 3, then 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/10/us/politics/chris-christie-drops-out.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 03:18, January 11, 2024 (EST)
When do you estimate Haley and Vivek will drop out?
So with only (1) Nikki (2) Vivek (3) DeSantis and (4) Trump left in the race, let's look at when people are likely to drop out.
My estimation is either one of Nikki or Vivek will cut a VP backroom deal with either Trump or DeSantis, then drop out once it is finalized.
It may be or may not be, let's wait and see. But here's the Calendar: https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-calendar/
So, in the next one month, we have (1) Iowa - Jan 15 (2) NH - Jan 23 (3) SC - Feb 3 (4) Nev - Feb 6 etc.
My opinion is Vivek may drop out after Iowa, maybe Jan 20th or so. Christie might have stayed in till NH, his home state after all, but he has already got out, which makes matters simpler for those looking to see when it will become a 2 man race. Nikki, since SC is her home State, might stay in until Feb 3, and then drop out around Feb 4th or 5th or so, but if she struggles to pick up traction, maybe earlier.
That's the way it seems to me. What do others think? NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:14, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- DeSantis runs 2nd in Iowa and Haley has a chance to run 2nd in NH. If Desantis takes 2nd in NH, it's a two man race until Trump has enough delegates. If Haley survives NH, the Haley-DeSantis contest goes into overtime.
- An important factor is fundraising. If either DeSantis or Haley appear to have done less than expected, fundraising dries up. By contrast, if Haley does better than expected in Iowa (not likely) or NH (a long shot), then the money starts poring into Haley's coffers, and away from DeSantis to his detriment.
- DeSantis strategy is take 2nd in Iowa, 3rd in NH, and 2nd in SC. That keeps him in the race beyond Feb. 3. Haley's only prayer is to finish 2nd in two of those three races. Without that, she's cooked. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:35, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Alternative theory (Trump's version): DeSantis staked everything on Iowa. If he finishes 2nd, he drops out., leaving Trump & Haley the last 2 men standing. Then it becomes a head-to-head matchup between Trump and Democrats preferred globalist. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 23:52, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- More on money in campaigns: What many people don't understand is, many campaigns run hand to mouth (due to current campaign finance laws). Candidates spend the entirety of 2023 raising money which ALL gets spent in Iowa. If they fail to meet that mark, they drop out (like Christie just did, or Kamala did in December 2019. She famously said in the fall of 2019, "I'm moving to Iowa", meaning she bet the farm of her whole campaign war chest on Iowa, and didn't even last that long).
- Each primary win gives a boost in fundraising for the next primary contest. Most candidates literally live hand to mouth. This is why Trump predicts DeSantis to drop out if he fails to win, or do less than expected. Christie was running on gas fumes.
- Trump OTOH, is not dependent on donors.
- Biden, who ran 5th in Iowa in 2020, didn't spend a dime in Iowa. He didn't really enter the primary campaign season until South Carolina, and bet it all there and on Super Tuesday. That's why Buttboy, Klobuchar, and others dropped out on election eve - they were running on fumes, knew they wouldn't pick up any new donors, and cut the best deal they could for career advancement. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:26, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Haley and DeSantis spilt 17%-19% or roughly 35%, 1-in-3, meaning they likewise have to split the anti-Trump donor money between them, with neither side being able to take full advantage. Haley probably has the edge, and has to sweep the next two. Trump predicted DeSantis to fold after IA, but DeSantis may stick around to NH for confirmation. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 14:38, January 16, 2024 (EST)
Iowan Patriots brave Cold to support future President Ron DeSantis
"It’s literally freezing in Ames, Iowa. Iowans chose to listen to their next president of the United States. RonDeSantis will win Iowa by a landslide." Picture in the link. Rob or someone, can you pls post the pic here? https://twitter.com/BoricuaGOP/status/1745632851775668451 It is an epic pic, and it speaks a 1000 words. Let's see how it goes. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:45, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Right. Trump colluded with Russia, Covid comes from people eating bats, Russia is about to run out of missiles, and DeSantis will defeat Trump. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:59, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- In the photo, half of em are Democrats. There is no Democrat caucus this year so they go to the GOP caucus to reek havoc. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:07, January 11, 2024 (EST)
Lol, "half of them are Democrats", that's quite a nice Conspiracy Theory you've got there, Mr. Rob Smith. Lazy Lib Dems are not going to brave Freezing Iowa Temperatures to show up in favor of a Candidate their Liberal Media tells them is already losing. Liberals haven't thought their strategies through. But it's ok because God is on the side of those who wish to confirm the RvW Victory and make it permanent. That's the number 1 reason I'm Pro DeSantis. But as a Pro-Trump Friend reminded me, it's good for Trump too if DeSantis wins, as we'll get him pardoned from any liberal phony Trumped up charge the Dems place against him. We don't agree with Trump, but we have no grudge against him, like the Dems trying to destroy him and his family do. We just need a young, 2 Term President to finish the job concerning RvW etc.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 00:34, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- Hey, I'm from the Midwest. Why do you think we have elections and caucuses in the dead of winter? Cause there's nothing to do and it gives you an opportunity to get out of the house. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:51, January 12, 2024 (EST)
Let's wait for the caucuses to complete, then we can compare the results and the predictions. I'm working on another project right now, namely the History of Christendom, particularly the first 500 years. Will check back when caucuses are done. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:51, January 13, 2024 (EST)
- Gatewaypundit: Democrats May Switch Parties to Vote for Nikki Haley in Iowa. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:20, January 14, 2024 (EST)
Joni Ernst today
Joni Ernst was clever in walking a fine line on MTP this morning. Buy she is not ruling out endorsing Trump if he is the nominee....
The hostages held in Gaza are innocent, they were celebrating the Jewish holiday and are held by terrorists in tunnels in in Gaza, they have been tortureed, raped...[16]
The 6 Americans held in Gaza need to be freed immediately, they are our brothers and sisters.
If Trump pardons convicted on J6, she won't oppose that, that is a president prerogative thing to do that, it will be his decision.
Kristen: But you called them insurrectionists...
Ernst: I did not use that term...They did break the law.Telling (talk) 10:50, January 14, 2024 (EST)
DeSantis grassroots support: more than 1,700 precinct captains
DeSantis has 1700 precinct captains. Assuming each captain is able to mobilize even 50 voters, that's 85,000. Assuming 170,000 total voters, hitting 85,000 and 50% as a percentage is in no wise impossible. DeSantis has far better chances than the Lib Media is telling you.
"Grassroots support for Ron DeSantis in Iowa is incredibly strong. 💪💪💪
More than 1,700 precinct captains are ready to turn out his supporters at the Republican caucus on Monday night!"
From: https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1746372891791233437 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 06:00, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Trump wins Iowa
It's Trump all the way down in Iowa. With 99 percent of the vote counted, its Trump 51% (20 delegates), DeSantis 21% (8 delegates), Haley 19% (7 delegates), and Ramaswamy 8% (3 delegates), according to RCP. Biden has a net favorable rating of -17 while Trump has -15. When the winners are this unpopular, there's something wrong with the election system. Perhaps a nonpartisan primary with the top two candidates going on to the general election would help.
It could be worse. William Lai, Taiwan's newly elected president, is also super-unpopular. He got only 40 percent of the vote in Saturday's election. Fortunately the Chinese military is too corrupt to do anything about it. Water-filled rockets, anyone?
Update: So happened to the rocket fuel? China's Military Whistleblower: Air Force Used Missile Fuel for Cooking PeterKa (talk) 23:14, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- The public's fickle, and they vote for idiots anyway. "The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversations with the average voter." - Winston Churchill. Why do you think we have a $34 trillion national debt? cause the candidates promise freebies and the idiots keep voting for them. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:28, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- The U.S. has become a vast and enormously diverse country. I think it may be unrealistic, in the absence of an attack by a foreign enemy (such as 9/11), to expect high approval ratings for a president anymore. Trump is the best hope to keep the U.S. united and strong.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:40, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks Andy. Let's hope.Telling (talk) 08:42, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- Trump is only going to be in office 4 more years if he runs. The most pernicious thing dividing America culturally is leftist/liberals taking over academia and indoctrinating students. That needs to be addressed because it is a root problem. 61.8% of high school (or equivalent) graduates go on to post-secondary study.[17] Conservatives/Republicans have to get more serious via school choice and cutting off loans to college majors that offer a low return on investment to students in terms of employability and are often liberal indoctrination (Women's studies, etc.) and paring down the amount of required courses (There is no reason why an engineer needs to take liberal/leftist fluff courses). They also need to pare down frivolous spending by colleges (Top heavy administration costs, lavish facilities). Colleges need to focus on core competencies and be more spartan.
- Thanks Andy. Let's hope.Telling (talk) 08:42, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- The U.S. has become a vast and enormously diverse country. I think it may be unrealistic, in the absence of an attack by a foreign enemy (such as 9/11), to expect high approval ratings for a president anymore. Trump is the best hope to keep the U.S. united and strong.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:40, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- Also, I know of a clergman who visits relatives in a red state and his relatives have a messianic view of Trump and that he is going to solve all their problems. The clergyman pointed out that Trump is not going to solve all their problems. For example, his morbidly obese relatives in that red state are still going to be obese if Trump wins. Politicians can only do so much. More Americans need to turn to God. Conservative (talk) 08:59, January 16, 2024 (EST)
Read this article to see what some right-wing people are doing to transform colleges into more conservative institutions: The History Behind the Right’s Effort to Take Over American Universities. More Republican governors need to start implemnting what is starting to be done in Florida. Conservative (talk) 09:29, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks for the tip, Conservative. Thanks to E. Stefanik's Dec. unmasking of academia dark reality.Dianne3000 (talk) 11:22, January 16, 2024 (EST)
Why Trump's ahead in GA (poll) matters
"President Biden trails former President Trump by eight percentage points in a hypothetical rematch in Georgia, according to an Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll of registered voters out Tuesday ((01.16.24)). Why it matters: The poll offers an early warning sign for Biden, who flipped Georgia blue in 2020 for the first time in nearly three decadesTrump beating Biden in Georgia in early 2024 poll (01.16.24).Telling (talk) 08:43, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- If DEMS. oust Biden, it will be interesting HOW they do it. Recalling Sanders case.Dianne3000 (talk) 11:17, January 16, 2024 (EST)
Vivek drops out
Vivek has dropped out, and with that I say this: I am a hard no on Vivek for 2028.
Over the past few weeks, hardcore cultists like Laura Loomer have been attacking Haley as ineligible but leaving Vivek alone despite him having the same eligibility issues as her. And now that he has dropped out, they are hypocritically proclaiming him the future of MAGA once Trump is done.
These people stand for only one thing: as long as you're loyal to Trump on a personal level, EVERYTHING is negotiable. Even core tenets of MAGA ideology like immigration, trade, and foreign policy. As you may recall, it was this way of thinking that made it possible for neocons like Bolton and Pompeo to infiltrate Trump's first administration and destroy it from within. And if this faction continues to have Trump's ear, they will be just as responsible for the failure of his second administration as the second wave of neocon infiltrators who carry out the destruction.
Vivek has now become the face of this faction, and unless he distances himself from them I cannot trust him going forward. MAGA is more than just Trump. It is an ideology and a way of life. Anyone who thinks MAGA is something negotiable is at best delusional and at worst a closet NeverTrumper. We cannot afford such people being at the wheel.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:07, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- He's already endorsed Trump. He's following the Ben Carson blueprint. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:25, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- Expectedly, but still, Vivek (though re Ukraine many agreed with him, nevertheless), has been rubbing too many people, even at GOP, the wrong way, for various reasons.Dianne3000 (talk) 16:03, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- Now wait a minute...Geo, you just claimed Laura Loomer was a credible source for the Ron DeSantis page, and here you call her a "cultist". Make up your mind. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:49, January 16, 2024 (EST)
- I explained on your talk page why such statements aren't mutually exclusice and why I stand by both statements. See here.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:26, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- Now wait a minute...Geo, you just claimed Laura Loomer was a credible source for the Ron DeSantis page, and here you call her a "cultist". Make up your mind. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:49, January 16, 2024 (EST)
MSNBC "warns..."
MSNBC’s Scarborough Calls Trump Getting 51% of Iowa Vote ‘Bad News’ for GOP '50% of people voting in the Iowa caucuses against a former president is bad news for that party’s prospects in the general election,' said Scarborough Published 01/16/24 [18]Telling (talk) 22:38, January 16, 2024 (EST)
Nikki in NH
So Nikki's strategy is as follows: She's now claiming "It's a two person race", following Trump's prediction that DeSantis will drop out if DeSAntis doesn't finish 1st in Iowa (where he was soundly beaten). Joe Biden is not on the ballot in NH, leaving Democrats to vote in the Republican primary. That's why polls have Nikki at 40%. If Desantis stays in, the winner walks away with only a plurality; if DeSantis drops out, Trump wins a majority, again. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:57, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- Haley's donors and voters are mainly Democrats. It's not because they want the Republican Party to succeed. She's the new John Kasich. I was a DeSantis man, but now I'll take my chances with Trump. Matt Walsh exposes Haley as a Civil War idiot on YouTube.
- Update. The problem is not just that Haley's supporters are Democrats. The pundits say they are "moderates," but they are in fact the most partisan Democrats. They want all Republicans, including Haley, to lose in the general election. The primaries are set up on the assumption that people will vote for the candidate they support. The Haley Democrats are voting for the Republican that they think is most likely to lose in the general election. That is good argument for replacing partisan primaries with nonpartisan primaries, something that we already have in Washington State. PeterKa (talk) 23:51, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Update: Nikki Haley DID cheat on husband Michael - had affairs with her comms consultant and a MARRIED South Carolina lobbyist before she became governor, sworn affidavits and new witnesses claim. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 23:20, January 19, 2024 (EST)
- The Boston Globe is advising Democrats to vote for Haley, even though "Haley’s not this editorial board’s cup of tea." Cross party lines and vote for someone you hate! By this logic, Republicans should vote in the Democratic primary for Dean Phillips. Then we can have a general election between Haley and Phillips. The system of partisan primaries is setup for this type of abuse. PeterKa (talk) 18:03, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- Interesting that a few thousands still voted for DeSantis after endorsing Trump. NYT recent update - New Hampshire Republican Primary Election Results - Donald J. Trump wins the New Hampshire Republican primary. Donald J. Trump -
- The Boston Globe is advising Democrats to vote for Haley, even though "Haley’s not this editorial board’s cup of tea." Cross party lines and vote for someone you hate! By this logic, Republicans should vote in the Democratic primary for Dean Phillips. Then we can have a general election between Haley and Phillips. The system of partisan primaries is setup for this type of abuse. PeterKa (talk) 18:03, January 21, 2024 (EST)
172,798 +54.4% - 12 delegates - Nikki Haley - 137,670 +43.3%, 9 delegates.[19]Telling (talk) 12:25, January 24, 2024 (EST)
- 1/2 of a percent is about 1,500 voters - probably dedicated volunteer door knockers, etc, people who are not high paid consultants who have already found other employment. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:36, January 24, 2024 (EST)
- Let's do the math on Haley, cause how a candidate runs their campaign is a good clue on their decision making on how they would run an administration:
- 73% of Haley voters are Dmeocrats = 139,679 x .73 = 101,965 Democrat voters. She spent $31 million to lose = 31,000,000/139,679 = $222 per vote or $22,630,000 for 100,000 Democrat votes. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:01, January 24, 2024 (EST)
Trump and the 14th Amendment
My story is the lead at The American Thinker: "The 14th Amendment’s History Militates Against Colorado’s Ruling Against Trump." PeterKa (talk) 07:13, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- Wow, this is fantastic, Peter!! Congratulations!!!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:14, January 24, 2024 (EST)
Trump's running mate
Will it be New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik? PeterKa (talk) 03:52, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- I hope not.--Geopolitician (talk) 10:40, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Trump/Kari Lake would be the most interesting ticket on several levels. (1) It would help cement carrying the swing state of Arizona; (2) it would be the first ticket in history where neither candidate had prior government experience, insuring Kari Lake as one of Trump's anti-establishment successors (like Vivek). RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:11, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Kari Lake nominated herself to Senate, no way to be running mate. Hopefully she will defeat Ruben Gallego. --Alex Kosh (talk) 21:22, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Trust me, she's in the running for VP, and right now makes the most sense. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:31, January 24, 2024 (EST)
- How do we know? Timing. The audio tape apparently is from the 2020 election. It looks like it was given to Tucker, who gave it to Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson works the stories Tucker is afraid of or doesn't have the time for. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 14:02, January 24, 2024 (EST)
- Correction: The audio recording is 10 months old. Again, the timing of its release is a clue to the motive for its release. 20:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)
- Update: Roger Stone says Kari Lake is the best communicator since Ronald Reagan, quite the endorsement since Stone is the guy who convinced Trump to run for president. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:56, January 26, 2024 (EST)
- Kari Lake Responds to Trump VP Rumors After Major Primary Victories. Of course, they're always going to talk it down. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:10, January 26, 2024 (EST)
- This tweet from Red Eagle Politics is best description of the possible running mate
https://twitter.com/RedEaglePatriot/status/1742398795269157037
-Can unite the party -Isn't offensive to the core base -Can debate well -Is ideally younger -Has a last name that looks good on a bumper sticker -Won't be seen as the 2028 frontrunner -Can help expand the base (optional) --Alex Kosh (talk) 21:33, January 18, 2024 (EST)
Nikki Haley scandal
Daily Mail published today that Nikki Haley had affairs with many men, including many lobbyists before she become governor of South Carolina.
It seems how clear Nikki Haley got this political power in South Carolina first then in the entire GOP --Alex Kosh (talk) 18:58, January 19, 2024 (EST)
- WOW. Posted. Great catch from the British press, which is far more candid about Leftists and RINOs than the American press is.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:51, January 20, 2024 (EST)
Political post-mortem of Ron DeSantis
- Political post-mortem of Ron DeSantis: The Caudillo who wasn't there. "A fool and his money are soon parted". RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 14:22, January 20, 2024 (EST)
DeSantis drops out
Good riddance. Too bad Trump is accepting his endorsement, though. I wouldn't.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:36, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- It's a contest now for who will take over as the successor of the Tea Party/MAGA movement once Trump's off the stage, Vivek or DeSantis. I wouldn't count Kari Lake out as an outside challenger. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:22, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- I'd prefer someone other than those three.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:30, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- You might as well start over from scratch, with different ideas. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:14, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- Ideally, it should be someone like Rand Paul.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:43, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- You might as well start over from scratch, with different ideas. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:14, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- I'd prefer someone other than those three.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:30, January 21, 2024 (EST)
Lee Zeldin most possible running mate choice
It seems now that Lee Zeldin probably would be the running mate of Trump according to Sebastian Gorka who said on X space that Donald Trump has chosen his VP PICK! He gave four pieces of information, the choice is: —A man —A former politician —A New Yorker —Currently campaigning with Donald Trump
Despite that I would like Trump to choose more conservative one than Zeldin, but I think Zeldin would be smart choice who is well liked by all GOP wings, strong campaigner that can appeal to independents just like what he did in 2022, a great debater who will humiliate Kamala Harris at first debate. Zeldin is more conservative than Trump on issues like crime, he will not let another horrible First Step Act --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:09, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- You would expect this ahead of the NY primary. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:15, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- Zeldin was backed by John Bolton when he ran for Congress. I don't trust him.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:44, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- Zeldin & Stefanik are 2 of the most high-profile Republican officeholders in the state. We'll be hearing more about them being considered for VP in advance of the NY primary. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:34, January 24, 2024 (EST)
E. Jean Carroll gets $83 million
Deny a baseless rape accusation and it could cost you $83 million, if we go by the recent E. Jean Carroll ruling. Why didn't Carroll sue Trump for over the alleged sexual assault? That was back in the 1990s. Carroll didn't bring the issue up in public until 2016, by which time the statute of limitations had passed. She brought it up so she could put Trump on a list of "hideous men." It was a gimmick to promote her book. There is no evidence for the allegations beyond Carroll's say so, and she has changed her story more than once over the years.
In short, Carroll is misusing the libel law as a way to get around the statute of limitations. Its absurd that she could end up making more money this way than she could have if she had followed the statute. See "15 facts about E Jean Carroll's allegations against Trump media don't want you know." PeterKa (talk) 19:32, January 27, 2024 (EST)
- Here's another good summary:
- The Trump-Carroll Case is Blatantly the Greatest Miscarriage of Justice in Modern American History, RAHEEM J. KASSAM, The National Pulse, January 26, 2024. Archived version: The Trump-Carroll Case is Blatantly the Greatest Miscarriage of Justice in Modern American History.
- We need someone to add it the article. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:00, January 27, 2024 (EST)
Montana Senate Race
Has anyone been following it? Rosendale hasn't even announced yet, but it's getting UGLY.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:14, January 27, 2024 (EST)
Haley beats Biden; Trump loses to him in Multiple Polls
Now that DeSantis is out, I would argue the GOP should nominate Nikki Haley, in part because of her superior electability, than Donald Trump has over Joe Biden. See the below for a source:
"The argument we just heard from Haley—that she is the most electable Republican candidate—is based on a Wall Street Journal poll last month that found her beating Biden in a head-to-head match by 17 points. That was a far better showing than Trump’s 4-point lead over Biden in the same poll" https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/gop-republican-debate-iowa/card/behind-haley-s-17-point-lead-over-biden-in-wsj-polling-qByTNcx5uHOCTq443PVW NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:11, February 5, 2024 (EST)
- Haley has a 1.8% chance of winning the U.S. presidency according to the political betting markets.[20]
- I think it's time for Haley supporters to do a "Haley Mary pass" if they want Haley to win (This an allusion to an American football term). I am not a Catholic, but given that you are, consider praying to St. Jude who is the saint of lost causes! Conservative (talk) 18:17, February 5, 2024 (EST)
- Another polls such as Rassmusen its showing Donald Trump overperformed Nimrata. The proof of this fake polls that 3/4 of Haley voters are actually Democrats, who will vote for Biden in November. No Conservative would like to vote for Republican Hillary Clinton --Alex Kosh (talk) 18:27, February 5, 2024 (EST)
- General Nimarata wants to bomb Russia and Iran - a tactical and strategic military genius. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 14:31, February 6, 2024 (EST)
Conservative. Ok. Saint Jude, please intercede powerfully for 2 Term Successful Governor and highly accomplished UN Ambassador Nikki Haley to win the Republican Party Nomination. We ask this of the Eternal Father through your Intercession and in the Name of Jesus Christ the Lord, by the Power of the Holy Spirit. In Jesus' Name. Amen. Let us see what happens. I am ready to believe she can win. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:15, February 5, 2024 (EST)
- Hey didn't the polls say DeSAntis was going to kick butt in Iowa? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 14:41, February 6, 2024 (EST)
- The only hope for Nimrata would be her homestate South Carolina, She will overperform because liberals are voting for her to prevent Trump winning of primary, but in the end she will lose that what polls is saying
Who’s ahead in South Carolina? --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:38, February 6, 2024 (EST)
- If she is really strong candidate why would Democrats vote for her in order to prevent Trump? Haley actually is weak candidate, she is barely won in 2010 in a red wave year --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:43, February 6, 2024 (EST)
- South Carolina receives more defense spending than any other state. That's why its elected officials (Graham, Haley) are outspoken warmongers who openly speak about murdering foreign leaders. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 00:06, February 7, 2024 (EST)
- Breaking: Haley loses to 'none of these candidates' in Nevada GOP primary.
- The question voters must ponder now is, how long will she continue to waste other people's money in pursuit of a hopeless cause? Everybody's famous for 15 minutes. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:12, February 7, 2024 (EST)
Epstein leaked
Epistein documents have been released according to The Calvin Coolidge Project according to this account Bill Clinton his name is on the list
Also documents assure that president Trump didnt visit Epistein private island
https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1742708101185216726
--Alex Kosh (talk) 20:02, January 3, 2024 (EST)
Setback for Atheists: Stephen Hawking had orgy for underage girls
Stephen Hawking underage orgy claim forced Jeffrey Epstein to offer cash reward
--Alex Kosh (talk) 16:46, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- The historical reality and facts show it was Donald J. Trump who exposed the entire Epstein scandal. The DOJ & FBI never would have done it themselves.
- In 2006, Epstein recruited a 15 year old girl, Virginia Guiffre, an employee of Mar-a-Lago, into the child sex trade. Trump immediately barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, and watched as the DOJ covered up the scandal. Investigations exposed the Clinton connection. I believe the scandal so outraged Donald J. Trump, especially where his name was involved, he believed the only way to rectify the matter and bring justice for victims was by running for president himself to expose the corruption in the federal government. It may not have been his only motive to run in 2016, but fair-minded historians need to consider this matter carefully. And of course, if we can get some input from Trump himself in memoirs or personal interviews, that would help. It was only by Trump pushing the issue in the 2016 election (which the Democrats & MSM tried to counter and neutralize with the Hollywood Access video which did not include children) that the story ever came to light. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 16:00, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Next they should expose which state actors were behind the honeypot operation. So we know which nations Trump should punish once back in office.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:16, January 15, 2024 (EST)
MSM/propaganda updates
- Update: the upgraded version of the Lancet drone can now exceed Mach 1 (the sound barrier) in its kamikaze dive. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:44, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Austin had Prostatectomy
- Why do they even bother trying to keep something like this secret when they know the truth, like the Ukraine casualty rate, will eventually come out? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:05, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Alternatively, Austin may have been injured in a Kyiv missile strike while attending a secret meeting and was ferried back to DC, and the prostate cancer is a cover story. Initially, the Pentagon said it was "elective surgery", later that story was changed to undergoing cancer treatment. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:55, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Black Mountain Analysis: Ukraine and the Middle East - Part 1[i] Fast forward to the abyss
- ALMOST ENTIRE UKRAINIAN COMPANY REFUSES TO ASSAULT, COMMANDER SHOWS REFUSENIKS.
- THE WEST’S GEOPOLITICAL CHESSBOARD IS SOAKED IN UKRAINIAN BLOOD.
- Benjamin Reed exposes war crimes committed by his fellow US mercs in Ukraine.
- Study Claims Almost One Third of Gen Z Are Sexual Deviants.
- Interesting, 28% of Gen Zers are sexual deviants, while in Russia 68% express concern over LGBTQ influence. [21] People are the same everywhere, as Putin enjoys only 51% support of people under 30 years old. He's likely to be re-elected with a 62-64% majority, or 58-59% on the lower end.
- 68% express concern over LGBT influence, while 67% support Putin's foreign policy. IOWS, only 1% think LGBT influence can be fought with non-military means. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:22, January 27, 2024 (EST)
CNN and Times of India Articles: The Future of the Internet is Indian
"Like nearly 900 million people in India, Devi has never used a smartphone or accessed the internet. The race to bring those millions online, adding to more than 500 million Indians already connected to the internet, is being contested by the biggest global names in tech. And they're shaping the future of the internet in the process." https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2018/11/business/internet-usage-india-future/
"The internet industry has come a long since the last few decades. Currently, India’s estimated internet users is set to reach 900 million by 2025. Combine that with the fact that 11% of the global web3 pool is from India, the answer is apparent: The future of the web will have India leading the way. And the revolution has already begun." ]https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/web3-and-its-future-in-india/And Social Media in particular is going to play a large part. I encourage every Aspiring Evangelist to have Social Media Platforms. And places like here on Conservapedia are also surely going to experience huge surges in traffic, as we continue to produce good content, and as more and more people use the Internet, and look for some kind of alternative to Wikipedia, so keep doing what we're doing and more. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:07, January 4, 2024 (EST)
""Why Online Evangelism? There are approximately 7 billion people [editor's note: now 8 Billion] in the world.
4 billion use the internet [editor's note: now 5 Billion, and rapidly growing].
And 3 billion are on social media.
Digital Evangelism helps us spread the Gospel into all the world at a rate we never could’ve imagined before. Moreover, it connects us to the younger generation." [7]"
https://www.conservapedia.com/Number_of_Internet_Users NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:09, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- Now you see why India did not take the neocon globalist Russophobic pro-LGBT bait and pass Russian sanctions. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 06:20, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- My user page has a few Lata Mangeshkar and Sridevi playlists. It also has a Aishwarya Rai Bachchan playlist. Aa teri mahafil men qismat ajamaa kar ham bhi dekhenge. Taki Oh Taki!. Nimbooda Nimbooda. I am ready for the Indian hordes about to descend on my user page! Conservative (talk) 01:34, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- Yes, we're learning from you how to build algorithms to promote oneself on Google. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 06:25, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Burying the hatchet
As I said at the outbreak of the NATO war, left and right idealogues needed to bury the hatchet if humanity and civilization is to survive the onslaught of globalist warmongers {my exact words were something like, 'If you don't have anything good say about socialists, just shut up, at least for the duration'). Well apparently leftwing socialist Jimmy Dore and rightwing fearmonger Alex Jones have done just that, and found common ground. [22] RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 16:06, January 5, 2024 (EST)
Delaying aircraft carrier order would hurt supply chain, shipbuilder says
Here we go. The federal government has used defense spending as a Keynesian stimulus since 1941. Aircraft carriers are obsolete as withdrawal of the USS Gerald R. Ford from the the Red Sea and Operation Prosperity Guardian just last week proves. They are vulnerable to hypersonic missiles and cheap drone swarms. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:49, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- The USS Gerald R. Ford was in the eastern Mediterranean. Deployment was extended three times. It was there for seven months of a planned eight month mission. Its the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower that's in the Red Sea. If carriers are obsolete, why is China building them? PeterKa (talk) 22:17, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- China's building one small one, a copy of the Laoning, which was purchased from the the Russian Federation at the end of the Cold War. It's not being built to "project power" throughout the globe. Basically, just for show, to show they can compete as China becomes a naval power. It takes years and years of training just to learn how to operate a carrier. They'll need it for their plans to police the South China Sea, but not much beyond (kinda like Japan "island hopping" in WWII). Call it "wasteful defense spending" as they copy the US. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:26, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Carriers are extraordinarily. expensive:
- The Laoning, originally the USSR's only planned carrier (which it didn't need) helped bankrupt the USSR and drive out of business;
- The UK is currently cannibalizing its only carrier for spare parts;
- The USS Gerald R. Ford is understaffed by 500-700 men of its 2,400 man crew because of recruitment shortfalls, which is probably a factor in withdrawing it from service. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:36, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Defense spending is a key component of the UniParty. Republicans have signed onto Keynesian defense spending and deficits for decades. This is what earned them the reputation as "the party of Wall Street". However, the GOP voter base today is more populist and blue collar, and the Dems have made inroads with corporate donors since the Clinton administration and end of the Cold War. A reversal of roles, so to speak. GOP voters are more aligned with "Main Street", while the party elites and establishment remian aligned with the Uniparty. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:10, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- Who they got running things over there, Vladimir Putin and the Russians? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:23, February 4, 2024 (EST)
- So the UK's lone Supercarrier is out of commission for the upcoming conflicts In Yemen, Taiwan, and the northern Arctic sea route. Looks like the UK navy is in as bad a shape as the UK Army, which has 2 divisions (Stalin had 705). NATO/Pentagon downgraded the UK Army to second tier status. The UK's majority non-English population are not keen on signing up (or paying taxes) to support America's pretensions to global hegemony. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:41, February 4, 2024 (EST)
Ukraine/Biden corruption
Zelensky is in possession of tapes made in 2015 by the Security Service of Ukraine of conversations between two of Zelensky main political rivals, Petro Poroshenko whom Zelensky defeated in the 2019 presidential election, and Joe Biden, who now is trying to cut Zelensky off.
Biden told Poroshenko in 2015 to fire AG Victor Shokin to stop investigating the Biden family ("SOB, he got fired"). Zelensky is now trying to blackmail Biden and a potential presidential challenger should Ukraine ever have a presidential election again. Zelensky is trying to make it so both he and Biden can keep their jobs. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 16:10, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Lloyd Austin's presumptive replacement
- AUSTIN’S PRESUMPTIVE REPLACEMENT WOKE DEEP-STATER, DR. KATHLEEN HICKS. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:02, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Level of war has gone up
"The level of war in the world seems to have risen to 1989 (post-WWII) peak levels and holding, ending the pacific 1989-2006 era. Does this contradict the Decline of Violence (Pinker) / End of History (Fukuyama) theses, or is it just a blip?". - Professor Eric Kaufmann, Twitter/X.[23], See: War and Peace.
I don't think it is just a blip. And if we are living in the latter portion of the last days (Israel becoming a nation was important event concerning the "biblical prophetic clock"), then it definitely is not a blip because Jesus said that there would be wars and rumors of wars in the last days. Conservative (talk) 10:13, January 8, 2024 (EST)
You're a day late and a dollar short again. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 21:54, January 8, 2024 (EST)
P.S.: "Israel becoming a nation" in 1948 is one of the most abused phrases I've heard for decades (especially among many Christian writers and preachers). Israel became a nation when God promised Abraham, Of thee I will make a great nation. There is simple confusion about what a. "nation" is; a "nation" is not the same as a government or regime. The Navajo Indians are a nation. So are the Kurds. So are the Chechens, etc. etc etc. So is the argument that the Palestinian people are a "nation". Many governments are multi-nation-al.
So using the phrase "Israel became a nation" in the late 1940s only exposes the speaker as an ignorant idiot as far as geopolitics and history, not to mention the Bible, is concerned. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 00:53, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Prophecies about the land of Israel fulfilled in our lifetime: Is Modern Israel Fulfilling Prophecy? and Is the modern state of Israel the fullfillment of prophecy and Unveiling the mysteries of Israel: Four biblical prophecies being fulfilled right now. Conservative (talk) 06:58, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- You miss the point; Israel was a nation 5,600 years before "Israel became a nation". You must be a product of the American public school system. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 08:33, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- The word nation according to Oxford Languages is: "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory." The Jews were scattered to various places in the world (which fulfilled biblical prophecy) and then came back to their land (which also fulfilled biblical prophecy). Conservative (talk) 08:47, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- Oh, you mean like the valley of dry bones. Israel was a nation in the Pale of Settlement. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 08:55, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- The word nation according to Oxford Languages is: "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory." The Jews were scattered to various places in the world (which fulfilled biblical prophecy) and then came back to their land (which also fulfilled biblical prophecy). Conservative (talk) 08:47, January 9, 2024 (EST)
- You miss the point; Israel was a nation 5,600 years before "Israel became a nation". You must be a product of the American public school system. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 08:33, January 9, 2024 (EST)
MSM silence on...
Palestinian attack on Christian holy site raises concern. “We know of no arrests that are made in such cases, nor do we see the P.A. placing any guards in those sensitive locations under regular attack.” (January 19, 2024 / JNS) A Palestinian mob caused extensive damage to a Christian holy site in Nablus (Shechem) known as Jacob’s Well on Sunday night.[24]Telling (talk) 16:21, January 19, 2024 (EST)
- A direct result of Islamization. All Mosques are under the totalitarian control of the PA.Dianne3000 (talk) 17:31, January 19, 2024 (EST)
Patriot missile shoots down Russian transport plane carrying Ukraine POWs
There's no way to escape certain conclusions in this matter:
- Despite Starlink and advanced NATO communications technology, Ukraine internal command and control is in chaos;
- The Patriot missile systems are operated by American "mercenaries";
- Russian Gen. Surovikin was relieved of command for mismanagement when 13 Russian pilots were killed by the Wagner group during the Wagner mutiny; will the Ukrainian side hold those responsible for the deaths of their own soldiers as the Russians do, or will they follow the American example and not fire Gen Milley or Lloyd Austin after the suicide attack that killed 12 Americans during the Fall of Kabul? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 03:33, January 26, 2024 (EST)
Ray Epps to be sentenced
The liberal media's favorite "Trump supporter" will be sentenced: "Ray Epps, face of Jan. 6 conspiracies, to be sentenced." The DOJ has requested six months for "disorderly conduct in a restricted area." Sentencing Epps now avoids him getting a harsher sentence after Trump is reelected. PeterKa (talk) 20:14, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- In the immortal words of Lee Harvey Oswald, "I'm just a patsy". RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- Have you guys followed the latest polling what many Americans think of Jan 6?Telling (talk) 21:03, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- I uploaded this today from Zerohedge about Trump & J6, but that probably doesn't answer your specific question about overall opinion. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:07, JanuarFNy 6, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks. I meant the,WaPoTelling (talk) 22:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- "adopted the falsehood" - at least they're upfront about their bias. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:50, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- The FBI has become absurdly powerful in recent years. Why was Tucker Carlson fired? He was asking questions about Epps and the FBI's involvement in January 6. There was also the advertiser boycott, but that wasn't spontaneous either.
- While the rest of the country was still trying figure out what to make of the January 6 demonstrations, Pelosi called for impeachment. What? Trump will leave office in a few days. That was when I become convinced that it was a plot that she instigated. PeterKa (talk) 19:17, January 7, 2024 (EST)
- It goes back to the Patriot Act Amendments of 2006, allowing domestic spying. The FBI and National Security state no longer exist to protect the American people; on the contrary, the American people now are deemed a threat to the US government, as Russiagate, the J6 false flag attack, and 2020 rigged election attest. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:17, January 8, 2024 (EST)
- "adopted the falsehood" - at least they're upfront about their bias. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:50, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks. I meant the,WaPoTelling (talk) 22:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- I uploaded this today from Zerohedge about Trump & J6, but that probably doesn't answer your specific question about overall opinion. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:07, JanuarFNy 6, 2024 (EST)
- Have you guys followed the latest polling what many Americans think of Jan 6?Telling (talk) 21:03, January 6, 2024 (EST)
- No jail time for Epps, the media's favorite insurrectionist. PeterKa (talk) 07:39, January 10, 2024 (EST)
Woke updates
John Hopkins Wokeness list
John Hopkins just sent out this hit list of people automatically guilty of "privilege" whether they know it or not Males -Whites -Christians -Mid-aged people -Able-bodied people -Middle & owning class -English-speaking people. [25]
Telling (talk) 13:02, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- The Long march through the institutions has arrived. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:20, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Klaus Schwab?Telling (talk) 17:37, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- No. Rudi Dutschke, a West German communist. He's an heir of Gramsci and Marx. He updated Gramsci for the 1960s updating the idea of cultural hegemony with "The Long March through the institutions" (the name borrowed from Mao & the CCP, as well). Basically, bring about revolution by infiltrating the institutions (academia, government, business, etc). Instead of sudden, violent overthrow of the past, a gradual infiltration and undermining of the dominant culture from within (with the election of Obama, the Long March had arrived, but most people outside of subversive circles didn't notice). RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:48, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- This John Hopkins is a perfect example of destructive DEIDianne3000 (talk) 20:16, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- No. Rudi Dutschke, a West German communist. He's an heir of Gramsci and Marx. He updated Gramsci for the 1960s updating the idea of cultural hegemony with "The Long March through the institutions" (the name borrowed from Mao & the CCP, as well). Basically, bring about revolution by infiltrating the institutions (academia, government, business, etc). Instead of sudden, violent overthrow of the past, a gradual infiltration and undermining of the dominant culture from within (with the election of Obama, the Long March had arrived, but most people outside of subversive circles didn't notice). RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:48, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Klaus Schwab?Telling (talk) 17:37, January 11, 2024 (EST)
The OK insurrections?
Pro-Hamas pro Yemen rioters force partial evacuation of the White House
Julio Rosas @Julio_Rosas11 - 🚨: DC police and Secret Service had to rush to one part of the security fence to prevent a breach from the Palestinian crowd. 6:46 PM · Jan 13, 2024 [26]
White House staff 'relocated' after pro-Palestinian rioters damage anti-scale fencing, hurl objects at cops. [27]Telling (talk) 00:49, January 14, 2024 (EST)
- I just posted it on MPR. I'll add your links. Thanks. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:23, January 14, 2024 (EST)
- You know, we made the connection between BLM rioters & the pro-Hamas camp sometime ago. I bet they are majority suburban white trash kids. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:41, January 14, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks RobS for rearranging the section...Dianne3000 (talk) 14:22, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Don't mess with TX
How TX deals with those "protesters" JUST IN: Pro-Palestine protester gets pummeled by Texans after disrupting Texas governor Greg Abbott’s speech. Gotta love Texas. The incident happened at a campaign event in Collin County. The incident happened on the same day as pro-Palestine protesters tried breaching the fence outside of the White House. pic.twitter.com/QBsHADHgAd— Collin [28]Dianne3000 (talk) 11:27, January 16, 2024 (EST)
Outrageous statement by Tara Setmayer: "the religious Christian nationalists death cult"
The Lincoln Project’s Tara Setmayer
"... It’s not necessarily the MAGAs who are in the death cult, the religious Christian nationalists death cult, because obviously they’re unmovable.” [29]Telling (talk) 17:30, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- As the liberals/leftist lose more and more power, they are going to angrier and nastier towards right-wingers and Christians. There are going to a bunch of right-wing victories in Europe in 2024 and Trump is somewhat favored to win the US presidential election in 2024 according to the political betting markets.[30]
- Rabbi Jonathan Sacks declared: "...the 17th century was the beginning of an age of secularization which has lasted four centuries until now; the 21st century is exactly the opposite, it's the beginning of an age of desecularization. Religion is seizing power; they're not yielding power."[31]
- We shall not be moved. Conservative (talk) 17:41, January 17, 2024 (EST)
Wokeness run amok
NYPD detective fights to clear name after non-binary BLM activist complains that he asked ‘are you male or female?’. The New York Post | 01/20/2025 | Tina Moore [32]Dianne3000 (talk) 04:43, January 21, 2024 (EST)
Afternoon Jewish prayers help soldier spot terrorist.
Afternoon prayers help soldier spot terrorist. A terrorist with an RPG tried to ambush IDF forces, but did not count on one soldier standing to the side to pray. Israel National News, 14 Jan 2024 Malkiel Ben-Yosef, who fought in Gaza, related today how afternoon prayers helped him find a terrorist setting up an ambush for his division.
“At the entrance to Bureij, during our last sortie, we had several delays before being allowed to enter the city. We had to stop for a full day, until eventually the last approvals were given. We entered the city, but had to stop in the middle of our march.”
“We were the last platoon in the line, and I saw that sunset was approaching and had not yet recited the afternoon prayers. Our force stopped and I told myself that this would be the last chance to do so. I stood up to pray, facing Jerusalem, and as I prayed, I saw an open area opposite me where engineering vehicles had already passed through. Approximately 10 to 15 meters from me, I saw something metal rising out of the sand.”.. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/383561 Telling (talk) 21:30, January 14, 2024 (EST)
- Thanks Telling. Inspiring. Our prayers to US, to have a better president and a better future. Amen.Dianne3000 (talk) 13:55, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Crisis between Iran and Pakistan
This is interesting, and has the potential to disrupt the Sino-Russo-Iranian alliance.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:06, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- Pakistan is a US/NATO stooge regime. It is there to provoke. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 23:27, January 17, 2024 (EST)
- Pakistan's first loyalty is Sunni fundamentalism, not NATO. It's been that way for decades. That's why it's consistently been a provocateur, even under NATO-skeptics like Imran Khan.--Geopolitician (talk) 10:40, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Pakistan doesn't want to be seen as supporting Israel against Iran and the Houthis. They responded with a missile strike against the same group in Balochistan. According to the Paki foreign ministry last night, India are the bad guys. In fact, the Paki foreign ministry borrowed the same language from the Russian foreign ministry: Pakistan and Iran are "fraternal peoples." RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 10:59, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Only in the sense that they are both Indo-Iranian peoples. Aside from that, they are on opposing sides of the Sunni-Shia divide, and Iran has historically had closer ties with India than with Pakistan for precisely that reason.
- On another note, I doubt Russia would appreciate Pakistan appropriating Russia's talking points to demonize one of Russia's closest friends.--Geopolitician (talk) 11:09, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- The Sunni split isn't so powerful outside of Arab countries. Sufism is prevalent in Pakistan. Pakistan and Iran are both members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:16, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- The current crisis wouldn’t be the first time two SCO members were at each other’s throats. China and India had a major border standoff shortly after the latter joined the SCO.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:11, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Listen to this loop from the Pakistan Foreign Ministry Briefing After Retaliatory Strikes On Iran from the Hindustan Times. What a joke. The retaliatory strike wasn't on Iran, it was on itself in Balochistan. Then she starts talking about a Kashmir massacre that occurred in 1990 that they blame India for. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:22, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- The Sunni split isn't so powerful outside of Arab countries. Sufism is prevalent in Pakistan. Pakistan and Iran are both members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:16, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Pakistan doesn't want to be seen as supporting Israel against Iran and the Houthis. They responded with a missile strike against the same group in Balochistan. According to the Paki foreign ministry last night, India are the bad guys. In fact, the Paki foreign ministry borrowed the same language from the Russian foreign ministry: Pakistan and Iran are "fraternal peoples." RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 10:59, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- What a joke. First she talks about Pakistan's territorial integrity. Then speaks of the love and affection Pakistanis have for their "brotherly people" in Iran; then she condemns the 100 days of Gaza action. Then she trash talks India for a massacre in 1990. Diplomacy at its finest. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:29, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Though, Pakistan - ISI was always a suspicious entity, however it is clear that Iranian Islamic Republic expansionist global domination was always looking for the opportunity. Be it stooges in Gaza (Hamas & Islamic Jihad PIJ), Lebanon (Hezbollah), Yemen (Houthis), Iraq (militias [33]), Syria (bases), Latin America (Venezuela - Alex Saab [34][35] etc., Tri-Border Area Hezbollah crime operations). It's about IRAN.Telling (talk) 11:38, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- What a joke. First she talks about Pakistan's territorial integrity. Then speaks of the love and affection Pakistanis have for their "brotherly people" in Iran; then she condemns the 100 days of Gaza action. Then she trash talks India for a massacre in 1990. Diplomacy at its finest. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:29, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- The Venezuela connection is probably related to cocaine trafficking to Europe See Project Cassandra. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:39, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- So Iran just attacked a nuclear power - Pakistan - and the Pakistani foreign ministry's official response is "we have nothing but respect and affection for our brotherly people in Iran." RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:57, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- I agree --with you-- that Pakistan fears Iran.Telling (talk) 12:22, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Here's an analysis of the types of missiles Iran and the Houtis have, and the Yemneni launch sites. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:45, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- I saw AP reporting, days ago, on Russian and NK weapons by Hamas. Will look at your link too. It wouldn't surprise me if Pakistan was directed by Obama/Biden-guys what to say...Telling (talk) 12:58, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- I got two links, from Larry Johnson & Andrew Korybko, on Baklochi group Iran & Pakistan just bombed, the MEK. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:10, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- I saw AP reporting, days ago, on Russian and NK weapons by Hamas. Will look at your link too. It wouldn't surprise me if Pakistan was directed by Obama/Biden-guys what to say...Telling (talk) 12:58, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- Here's an analysis of the types of missiles Iran and the Houtis have, and the Yemneni launch sites. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 12:45, January 18, 2024 (EST)
_ From that piece in your link, he says that only the Houthis acted militarily. He ommits Hezbollah. Maybe because Hezbollah has been attacking Israel since the 1980s?Telling (talk) 13:01, January 18, 2024 (EST)
- It's a focus on the Red Sea & Houtis with Iranian missiles. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:08, January 18, 2024 (EST)
RINO Of The Year 2023
Hello everyone,
I know I am late this year, but I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions on who should be RINO of the Year 2023. I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and New Year! Thank you!--TheNewRight (talk) 19:20, January 19, 2024 (EST)
TheNewRight has created a page for this topic. See here.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:08, January 19, 2024 (EST)
- I also agree with Haley.--TheNewRight (talk) 20:09, January 23, 2024 (EST)
- Graham has it for 2023; Haley depends on what she does after she bows out of the 2024 presidential contest. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:27, January 23, 2024 (EST)
- How about Graham being RINO of the Year, and Haley being the runner-up.--TheNewRight (talk) 19:21, January 26, 2024 (EST)
- For 2023, Mike Pence, Glitch McConnell, Dan Crenshaw, and Chris Crispy Creme probably got Haley beat. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:40, January 26, 2024 (EST)
- A RINO of the Year needs to be selected soon. Maybe Lindsey Graham or Chris Christie as RINO of the Year and the other be the runner-up?--TheNewRight (talk) 21:30, January 28, 2024 (EST)
- Ron DeSantis deserves the title, in my opinion. His fall from grace over the course of 2023 is legendary.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:28, February 2, 2024 (EST)
