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Propaganda war

  • The US and its allies expect Kiev to refill the depleted ranks with teenagers, the elderly, and women, Russia's SVR intelligence agency has said.
  • "Several hundred thousand Ukrainian men and ten thousands of Russian ones are now dead. All because U.S. and UK politicians, primarily Biden and Johnson, desired to "weaken Russia". Russia is now stronger than it has been in early 2022. Its economy is growing while Europe's is stagnating at best. To make peace now with will cost Ukraine some 20+% of the country. In April 2022 it could have regained control over all of it except for Crimea."
  • You voted for it, either when you voted for Joe Biden or failed to stand against election fraud in "democratic" America.

MSM narratives

Elon Musk lampoons Wikipedia

Elon Musk offers $1B to Wikipedia if it changes its name. [2] In addition Mark Dice video dropped this week. "Behind the scenes of Wikipedia – one of the biggest disinformation machines on the Internet." [3] --Jpatt 09:26, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, the Dice piece, which is about 5 minutes long, is well worth viewing and should be viewed by our editors. It may have been posted on MPR, if I recall. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:14, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

Steve Turley was demonetized by YouTube

In a recent video, the conservative Steve Turley said he was demonetized by YouTube. He has 1.18 million+ YouTube subscribers. Conservative (talk) 15:05, November 30, 2023 (EST)

Yah. YouTube execs probably have been reading your Essay screeds and decided to de-monetize Turley. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 15:13, November 30, 2023 (EST)

Israel

  • Dreizin: U.S.-dictated strategy of slow creep into Gaza open spaces, farmsteads & suburbs is paying off as Hamas, drawn out from its fortresses, takes heavy losses while Israeli casualties are inconsequential, even as Israeli personnel gain combat experience, to include ground targeting for airstrikes, a crucial skill that is NOT in the usual Israeli repertoire. Strategy is presumably also designed to achieve “slow boil”, avoiding uncontrollable rage explosion in Arab countries. Shizbollah/Iran still deterred; Israel-Lebanon/Syria casualties so far are up to 15X in Israel’s favor, due to Israel’s superior attack drones (ask the Armenians); multiple highly credible Arab & Israeli sources state that Hamas is very disappointed in its allies for not joining in big-ly. New U.S. House speaker = Israel will get the $$$ soon. Things going surprisingly well for what my most autistic readers like to call “the colonial entity” (LOL.) But, we’ll see. The Ukraine, of course, is still toast.
  • Dreizin: (“GAZA SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR JEWS”, **NOT** A JOKE, FURTHER BELOW.) As I wrote on October 8th, bulk of Israeli ground force is not combat-capable, is lucky to be facing only Hamas for now, not Hezbollah. If you hadn’t already seen the Hamas drone video still from two days ago, of 15+ Israeli soldiers chilling in a shallow sandpit, today we have Hamas video of a fragmentation grenade air-dropped on group of 25+ soldiers all chilling idle, out in the open, bunched up within a ~4.5 meter radius; it appears that at least 3 were killed or crippled, probably more wounded less severely. VERY lucky that the grenade only hit the edge of the group. Also, last night overnight (Tues-Weds), we got news of an ASTOUNDING 13 Israeli casualties (9 dead, 4 wounded) in **ONE** armored vehicle (from the first-echelon Givati brigade) hit by an antitank missile or possibly a tandem-blast RPG. Per the Ukraine war, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 MONTHS: In an environment saturated with precision standoff tools to destroy your vehicles, the absolute MAXIMUM acceptable bodies in or on one vehicle (including driver) is 8, but ideally and more commonly 4-6. 13 is a total AMATEUR CLUSTER****. It doesn’t matter what they’re doing, how bad the need to get on that vehicle, because it’s a deathtrap, it’s better they stayed put. In short… Disperse or die en masse. COMPLACENCY KILLS, just as it killed 1000+ southern Israel civilians who lived on the edge of a tiger pit, but didn’t believe in gun ownership because, hey, “We have an army.” I still CANNOT FATHOM THE SASS, PRIDE, CLUELESS ARROGANCE of a military that willfully refuses to learn ANYTHING from the one truly major, modern war of the last 40 years. (I CAN ONLY ASSUME THEY THINK RUSS/UKR ARE DUMB N*****S, WHILE THEY ARE THE MASTER RACE.) As I wrote on **OCTOBER 8TH**, this may work for Gaza but it will NOT work against Hezbollah. ISRAELIS TOOK ALMOST 3 WEEKS TO PREPARE FOR THEIR “BIG GROUND OP”… WHAT THE **** WAS THEIR INFANTRY DOING WITH THAT TIME??? [4]
  • Dreizin: Based on numerous Gayrab-Islamiac videos out of Gaza, Israeli army displays seemingly total absence of infantry screening of armored vehicles, whether parked or on the move. Also, most Israeli vehicles still LACK any welded-on RPG screens/grills, or even any on-chassis sandbags to protect their turrets or gun pods. Frankly, I’d go so far as to say that I don’t believe Israel has a “REAL” ground army at this time; it is a glorified military-police force with some special forces attached, similar to the Russian army that went into the Ukraine, 21 months ago. One saving grace, so far, is likely Gayrab-Islamiac disorganization (due to intense air campaign causing death/injury of many commanders & destruction of many communications / command points, also causing the Gayrabs some difficulty in navigating their half-wrecked tunnel network) & consequent evident inability to mount Durka-Durka assaults at anything above the squad or small platoon level. Israel appears to have learned nothing from decades of conflicts in the Ukraine, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. I just don’t have any more words to describe the pathos of what I’m seeing. They don’t seem to have much choice other than just to keep demolishing the place, using hyper-intense air surveillance and “intervention” so as to keep their casualties low. But the MSM “grace period” can’t last, WE ARE GOING TO START HEARING FROM MSM ABOUT Israeli difficulties this coming week, for sure.
  • Dreizin: Israeli ground plan for Gaza City now seems clear—they are likely going directly for the main Hamas base and bunker complex (likely also an "all roads lead to Rome" point for the tunnel network in Gaza City & environs) in/under Shifa hospital. (What sort of turd hides under a hospital? No way that Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, told them to hide there. How "religious" are these killer clowns?) At current rate of advance (FWIW, strictly linear, *NOT* a prediction), moving along the coast (and inland from the coast), Israeli forces could reach the hospital by Monday mid-day.
  • UPDATE: Israel way ahead of Dreizin, has apparently fully taken coastal road to southern edge of Gaza City. Main Hamas base under Shifa hospital complex is just a few hundred meters from Israeli coastal presence. // I was ignoring this type of stuff, but now it’s too credible not to report. For one example, according to top Spanish paper El Mundo, Spanish mercs w/ Ukraine experience have been offered work in Israel/Gaza. Just another facet of the Ukraine-is-over story.
  • Korybko: What Did The Houthis’ Attempted Bombing Of Israel Aim To Achieve?
  • DPA: This is why Israel can't stop rocket attacks from Gaza.
  • https://nitter.net/IbnRiad/status/1722717755198083185 Ibn Riad
  • DPA: Deep tunnel discovered in West Bank (Jenin) after major Israeli raid - UAV was involved
  • Weeb Union: MASSIVE Israeli Breakthrough | Shifa Hospital Under Siege
  • Hezbollah released a video warning the U.S. of its readiness to destroy the U.S. fleet in the eastern Mediterranean
  • Dreizin: Israeli advance force is now in heart of Gaza City business district, 1.25 miles inland, about 0.5 miles further than reported by Israeli media today. Hamas in the City appears to be ineffectual, collapsing, as Israeli battle plan (using “rolling screen of fire” tactic described — not under that name — in my 1st post (of 2) on Nov 10th, to move in from the coast while tying down Hamas in its fortresses closer to the Israeli border, in Beit Hanoun & Jabaliya) becomes clear. Evidently, Hamas did not anticipate that Israel would dare to brave the higher-rise inner districts of the northern Strip.

Why Lindsey Graham melted down into a bowl of fudge

Lindsey Graham Screams at Newsmax Reporter for Bringing Up Tlaib in Israel Briefing Wow, despite Cohen at first gratefully praising Graham, he gets viciously lashed out at. Now, one may wonder: why would Graham find the question so affronting?

The answer is simple: Graham is part of the uniparty globalist establishment, and the question was a challenge undermining establishment Democrats. Graham, as a loyal Deep State shill, thus instinctively can't help but defend his fellow Democratic establishmentarians in an outburst of fury, which if you notice closely was antisemitic:

Graham: "Get this guy out of here."

Cohen: "I live here. I'm an Israeli."

Graham: "I'm an American!"

Graham's response demonstrates how the American globalist establishment views other countries: subservient colonies that bending to the will of the enlightened initiated masters. He visits a foreign country for a press conference, and thinks that him being an American holds equal standing to a citizen of that country, enough to justify demanding that citizen get kicked out the crucial diplomatic conference. What astounding arrogance from this senatorial scum. If anyone deserves the vengeance of hell, the pink-pansie excuse of South Carolina's senior senator can walk the plank into the lake of fire. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:52, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

The very fact that Graham is offended over an Israeli bringing up problems stemming in America as if they're irrelevant only is revealing of his own self-enlightened superiority complex—how dare anyone question the second beast of Revelation! —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:59, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting. Now just get your own head screwed on right about criticism of globalists and globalism if you want to gain any traction. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:41, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
I examine geopolitics by applying the Hegelian thesis/antithesis model. Consider the cause-and-effect cycle, examine the motives for each side, how they function as puppets, and how current events will lead to the inevitable "synthesis." —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 13:42, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Most geopolitical questions transcend left/right, liberal/conservative paradigms. And beginning with an ideological approach from those paradigms will distort your vision. Therefore, the ideological approach should be quelled from the outset. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:33, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
It's true that the larger picture of geopolitics indeed transcend a one-dimensional approach to political ideology—definitive standards can vary drastically between different nations, so the extreme right wing of a Western country may find common ground with the fringe left wing of a Middle Eastern Islamic-majority, anti-imperialist, anti-Western nation. But so long as the varying differences in political ideology can be grasped, there is not necessarily a need to entirely ditch the "left–right paradigm" that more or less is rooted in the Bible. (Ecc. 10:2, Matt. 25:33–46)
I hope this clarifies matters. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 21:39, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
"right/left" is very near to what I call "journalistic shorthand" - nobody knows or can agree what it means and the author only uses it cause there isn't space to explain more detail. The author assumes you know what he's talking about. But it's real meaning changes from place to place, and over time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:28, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Amalekite Hamas shills are the new Nazi Bundists

A group of antisemitic agitators gather in New York in support of a foreign regime mass-murdering Jews, and viciously denounces the present Democratic presidential Administration of the United States. Sounds like the recent pro-Hamas protest, right? Well, it also eerily resembles the 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. How times have changed... or perhaps not. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 13:39, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Who you talking about, Gays 4 Gaza]? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:41, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
I'm referring to the infamous DSA rally. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 13:43, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Debate: Should the United States continue to support Israel?

Just created a new debate page on this topic. Link here.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:48, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Blood libel again?

"An Israeli air strike blasted ..NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:19, November 2, 2023 (EDT)

How nice and "lovely" are you saying now that Israel is after Christians by intention? How low. But you wouldn't blame Islamists for using Hospital, schools, ambulances and places of worship. Of course.Dianne3000 (talk)
In this specific instance I highly doubt they were going after Christians by intention. But it is true that Christophobia has been rising among the Israeli right, just as antisemitism has been rising among the American right (and to an even greater extent the American left).--Geopolitician (talk) 12:44, November 10, 2023 (EST)
Sadly, I have to agree with you. Unfortunately, we have many users who don't understand the complexities and realities of the world. Worse, they don't seem interested or want to understand. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:39, November 8, 2023 (EST)
If the OP (N.X.) just wants to "defend" Christians... he would have posted this and other weekly Islamist crimes against Christians. "Christian Buildings Targeted in Military Conflict in Sudan,” Morning Star News, November 6, 2023. But we all have seen his campaign - what it is really about.Dianne3000 (talk)

Islamization of Christians continues

Jesus' birthplace removes all Christmas decorations in honor of Hamas 'martyrs’ [5] Since the 1920s, Arab Christian leadership let their people be influenced by Islamists dominance. In May 1937, Arab-Christians joined the Muslims in celebrating, Muhammad's birthday by displaying pictures of Hitler & Mussolini. NYT. Since 1997 there has been a brutal Islamization of Bethlehem. Arabs under oppressive leadership can not express freely what they believe against the Islamic power. [6] Arafat drove Christians from Bethlehem[7]Telling (talk) 19:35, November 16, 2023 (EST)

Yep. We used to get news reports about Christmas in Bethlehem, but since about 2002, you'd be taken hostage if you ventured anywhere near it. In fact, I don't think the Israeli government issues tourist visas to Bethlehem anymore, not without some special explanation why the visa is being requested. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:49, November 16, 2023 (EST)
The group was also been played as a ping-pong propaganda against Israel.Dianne3000 (talk) 20:08, November 16, 2023 (EST)
It's not just true in Israel, but Lebanon, as well. It's amazing how many Arab Christians from Lebanon sympathize with the Arab Muslims. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 20:04, November 16, 2023 (EST)
I'm not surprised at all. Ever since the Syrian war began, many Arab Christians have relied on Shia militias such as Hezbollah for protection against al-Qaeda, ISIS, and other Salafi/Wahhabi groups when their central governments couldn't provide said protections themselves. Under the current circumstances, these Arab Christians see their Shia counterparts as necessary allies in their struggle to survive.--Geopolitician (talk) 00:46, November 17, 2023 (EST)
It used to be called the Switzerland of the M.E.

Did Daniel Halper just imply that Monica Lewinsky was Mossad???

More on this here.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:57, November 18, 2023 (EST)

I've heard this theory before, but's always run the gap of fact or fiction? Is it a genuine analysis or a Hollywood script? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 22:41, November 18, 2023 (EST)

Ukraine

  • Mark Sleboda: How the CIA Took Over Ukraine's Intelligence Agencies & Rebuilt Them Into a Repression & Assassination Machine
  • Dreizin: ***DREIZIN WROTE ABOUT THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING. NOW, THEY ARE COMING CLEAN.*** In “above the fold” Bezos (Washington) Post hard copy story today (Tuesday, but it was online Monday), one that MUST be seen in context of Hamas’ October 7th carnage as well as U.S. intel chiefs likely seeing opportunity to drop the “Ukraine ballast”, CIA sources take **MASSIVE DUMP** on colleagues in Ukrainian state security & military intelligence, admitting large-scale training/funding of Ukrainian operatives since 2014 (why now???) *BUT* both acknowledging *AND* vaguely but unmistakeably claiming disapproval of the Ukraine’s killings of pro-Russian “collaborators” as well as of civilian pundits/influencers inside pre-2014 Russia. Well, that’s nice because HALF the Russians that Dreizin follows on Telegram have been killed or “attempted” already. Better to admit it late than never! Fact is, terrorism is terrorism, & someone at CIA is discarding the Ukraine AND putting them on notice, PUBLICLY, that they’re in the same bucket as Hamas now. Of course, this wonderful message would NOT have gotten out w/o Islamiacs providing a golden opportunity to start tossing this filthy albatross overboard. /// [8]
  • Dreizin: More context to my headline from 30 minutes ago: Since end of Cold War, CIA & Russian services have severely curtailed “dirty ops”; Russia no longer kills “civilians” abroad (state security turncoats/traitors not considered as “civilians”), while CIA has become even more gentle. Ukraine’s mass targeting of civilian enemies inside Russia & Russian-controlled areas MUST HAVE strained & destabilized this concensus. Now, w/ the Ukraine obviously soon to wind down, & w/ all eyes on “other conflicts”, CIA suddenly, publicly admits to training entire Ukrainian intel ops structure, but, purports to have re-found its “kindler gentler” religion, like hey let’s put this behind us. OK, very convenient! IMHO, more signs of the times! [9]
  • Andrei Martynov: CYA (on the same subject of CIA/SBU assassinations in Ukraine & Russia since 2014, as reported by the Washington Post).
  • Korybko: WaPo’s Report About The US-Ukrainian Spy Alliance Confirms Russia’s Security Concerns
  • Dreizin: Home break-in assassination attempt in Crimea on leading Ukrainian exile Oleg Tsarev, a longtime legislator and top activist / organizer within the Ukraine’s (now defunct) federalist camp, who finally fled the country after assaults and death threats circa 2016, went hard over to Russian side in 2022 & was tried & sentenced in absentia to 12 years jail. Not clear yet, but culprits *MAY* have been local thugs recruited virtually by Ukrainian military intelligence (a common scenario), not “professionals.” Home must have been alarmed, cameras, etc., as Tsarev was a “known target.” Tsarev was shot, is in hospital in critical condition, it doesn’t sound good. As of right now, majority of Russian-language pundits or activists whom I follow(ed) on Telegram, have been killed or “attempted” by Ukrainian operatives. [10]
  • Dreizin: ***WE ASSUMED IT WOULD BE EUROPE FIRST, INSTEAD IT WAS RUSSIAN CAUCASUS. IT’S ALWAYS THE WEAKEST DOMINO!!!*** You’ll **NEVER** hear this in the MSM: Makhachkala, Dagestan airport riot was instigated by a Prometheism-oriented Ukrainian military psy-ops command Telegram channel, “Utro Dagestana” (Dagestan Morning.) In this case, unlike with the “Israelis in the Flamingo hotel!!!” siege just prior, the flight was real, a Red Wings Airlines route from Tel Aviv. Plane was turned around mid-flight, never reached Russia. Mob completely filled the terminal, attacked city police sent to the scene, & detained/threatened random people on suspicion of being Jewish; all flights out were delayed as terrified passengers stuck inside planes on tarmac, with Palestine-flag mobs roaming the open space. At last report, interior forces (Rossgvardia) have still not cleared the runway (may have cleared the terminal.) Incident is of “little lasting consequence” EXCEPT to remind Russians of Dagestan vulnerability. (Ukrainians know Dagestan is a barrel of gasoline, they play it well.) Podoliaka, Cassad, & all other superstars of Russian patriotic Telegram, not to mention Russian mainline media, the former and latter BOTH operating under written parameters from the Kremlin, will likely now “be advised” to be more careful in their “Woohoo!!! Look at these Israeli war crimes!!! Russia off the hook!!!” schtick, as the Caucasus Islamist threat has again reared its head; situation now so toxic as to again be a THREAT TO THE RUSSIAN STATE. As I said, folks, for Muslims (and thus, in essence), Hamas & events over there are NOT about “Palestine” or any statehood for anyone… it’s all about tribal unity/identity of global ISLAM. Certainly a sort of RUDE AWAKENING for some “useful idiots”, in Russia at least. // Again, yes, yes, my Nov 5th call will be recorded, for those who can’t make it. Why keep asking? ***If you missed the Nov 5th call plug & “coffee” link, it’s near bottom of my Oct 23rd post.*** // IF YOU WISH TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM MY MAILING LIST, HELLLOOOO, THERE IS ALWAYS A HIGHLY-VISIBLE, AUTO-UNSUBSCRIBE LINK AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH OF MY EMAILS, PER FEDERAL LAW. ***I HAVE NO SPARE TIME AND DO NOT WASTE MY TIME WITH PERSONAL OR SEMI-AUTO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS SENT TO ME VIA YOUR EMAIL PROVIDER.***
  • Dreizin: Red Wings Airlines plane from Israel did land, carrying mostly (non-Jewish) local/regional kids who had been undergoing medical treatment in Israel (probably mostly for cancer), and their parents, mostly moms. (It is common for Russians to seek treatment in Israel.) They were deplaned and managed to get on a chartered bus, before being surrounded for some time by a mob, which fortunately did not enter or seriously damage the bus. Also, all airport shops have been trashed and looted. GLOBOHOMO has issued a condemnation, of course ignoring that the whole thing was a Ukrainian psyop. It is widely expected that all rioters who can be identified, will receive a draft summons within the next few days.
  • SIMPLICIUS: TIME Magazine Profile Depicts Grim Führerbunker-Stage of Zelensky's Conflict.
  • Dreizin: Friday morning (U.S. ET) post 2 of 3: Up to five F-16s already delivered to the Ukraine, just in time as Russia has finally won the air war, destroyed ~2/3 of the Ukraine’s remaining functional fixed-wing fleet in October, w/ precision attacks on airfields but mostly w/ new extended-range (up to 380 or 400km) 40N6 missiles for S400 Triumph air defense system, guided to target by Russian DRLO (AWACS) aircraft, a new practice; the Ukraine is down to ~10-12 airworthy craft (exclusive of F-16s delivered last 24-48 hours.) Also, 16 Storm Shadow cruise missiles downed or “lost” over Crimea or adjacent waters in last ~48 hours, as Russia has finally “cracked” their guidance & learned to deflect them in numbers. Meanwhile, Russia “hoarding” cruise missiles to turn off lights this winter, under cover of “Gaza genocide” & as GLOBOHOMO air defense munitions for the Ukraine, finally run out. Last winter, the Ukraine got a sudden “reprieve”, w/ Russian bombardment of power transmission grid stopping in mid-January after presumably some behind-the-scenes economic deal w/ GLOBOHOMO. This time, may not be so lucky.
  • Comment: the delivery of five F-16s to Ukraine in no way can be considered a game changer. It is simply a way to learn more about the S-400 missile defense system and how the F-16 stacks up against it. Last week the S-400 destroyed 24 Ukrainian Mig 29s in 5 days - more than half of what remained of the Ukrainian airforce after the opening days of the SMO. Whoever steps into one of these F-16s is a kamikaze pilot on a suicide mission (unless he's an idiot unable to read and write). The purpose of this losing effort in a losing war is simple to see - after the five F-16s get destroyed, the military industrial complex and Pentagon can say to Congress and the American people, "See, we need more funding for the F-35 fighter cause the F-16 is obsolete." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:31, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
  • Commander Reisner points out how even when Ukrainian forces had superiority in inventiveness, making innovations and modifications to weapon designs on the battlefield, such as drones for instance, the Russians are able to copy the improvements and produce the improved designs at a scale of 10-1. Logistically, it is impossible for Ukraine to win. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:07, November 19, 2023 (EST)
  • :What is striking about the current state of play is not simply that Ukraine is losing the war with Russia, and it’s just a matter of time before Russia dictates terms, but that the Ukraine government is acting in ways that benefits the Russian military, to the destruction of what is left of its society and economy."
  • It's important not to get close to the trainees. Washington had pushed Kiev to utilize high-casualty tactics even when the US accessed Ukraine was unlikely to make any breakthrough.
Note: The FT is the voice of the of neo-fascist globalists who control the EU and tell them what to do,

Debt trap diplomacy

$113 billion in Ukraine aid is an example of debt trap diplomacy.

Hospital bombing war crimes

Ukraine's bombing of the Mariupol maternity hospital was a war crime.

Zelensky drops F bomb on Meet the Press

US, European officials quietly nudge Ukraine to seek peace. Zelensky drops "F" bomb on Meet the Press in response. "Quietly" is operative word, and Zelensky's high-profile, explosive response (now you have some clue about the type of diplomatic dialogue that occurs in Blinken's "private talks" with Zelensky) reveals Zelensky's Russian soul.

One thing that sets the Russian language, culture, and society apart from many others is the social acceptability of swearing, from 6-year-old school kids to 85 year old grandmothers. The offensive taboo that exists in many cultures does not (more properly, has not) existed in Russian society. In fact, swearing is an artform (I guess cussing somebody out in Russia's long-established multicultural society is considered more polite than beating somebody or killing them.)

Zelensky revealed his Russian soul by dropping an F bomb in front of an American national television audience. Despite all the Nazi rhetoric that Ukrainians are not Russians, Russian is Zelensky's native tongue, despite the law Zelensky signed banning his own native language and forcing people to speak only Ukrainian in public, which Zelensky does with some difficulty.

As America has become more Sovietized since the New Deal and in the 19050s, 1960s, and 1970s, it also picked up some Russian cultural habits, like the commonality of swearing public. Blame Zelensky's advisors who briefed him on this subject: they probability told him swearing in public in front of millions of American viewers is perfectly acceptable, just as in his native land. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:00, November 6, 2023 (EST)

Is Zelensky a killer?

  • STEPHEN BRYEN: Zelensky is at war --With his Generals.
  • Dreizin: Beginning of the Endgame: Zelensky-Zaluzhny primetime pro wrestling match gets WICKED REAL, as police & state/quasi-state media say Ukro-Napoleon Zaluzhny’s aide-de-camp, Gennadii Chistiakov, blown up while playing w/ a grenade at his home near Kiev, while his kids were in the house. Police even went so far as to release photo of several grenades at his home, lying on a surface, next to a half-visible SYRINGE (!!!), cuz everyone knows junkies play w/ grenades. But, the syringe looks to be broad & of plastic, like something you’d feed liquid medicine to your kids with. Aaaaanyway… Zaluzhny immediately said that his aide was celebrating his b-day & was killed (read: ASSASSINATED) by explosives hidden in a liquor-&-shot-glass gift set. Then, Zaluzhny’s office released a short video of him saying that his aide was killed, & “Don’t gift me anything, not for New Year’s, not just because you feel like it.” (Cannot make this up!!! Stop the planet, I need a break!!!) HEY GLOBOHOMO, HOW’S THAT COUNTER-SUCK-FENSIVE GOING???

Comment: a year ago it appeared Zaluzhnyi was being groomed by the CIA to take Zelensky's place. Then came Bakhmut, where Zaluzhnyi criticized CIA instructions ("He who got the gold makes the rules") Zelensky was carrying out to feed the lives of Ukrainian soldiers into a hopeless meatgrinder. Per the TIME magazine article, it appears CIA wants to do away with both Zelensky and Zaluzhnyi now, and replace Zelensky with whatever stooge/general is left standing.

But remember, your tax dollars are at work in Ukraine for democracy. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:59, November 6, 2023 (EST)

  • Dreizin: Update to last post: The “shot glasses” from the gift set, were in the form of grenades, & as I understand, intended to be opened by pulling on the pin. Well, turns out, one or more of them was “real”, that is, really packed with explosive charge. Not only was the aide killed, his son is in serious or critical condition in hospital. // No, we’re not looking at the possibility of a “classic” military coup, as ANYTHING that happens, would happen with Uncle Sam’s approval (if not active involvement), as in Vietnam 1963. It’s NOT going to be decided in the Ukraine. Perhaps to this end, clearly, we’ve seen Zaluzhny marketing himself as a mentally adequate, “understands the stalemate”, negotiation-capable alternative to “we’re still gonna win”, prima donna wackjob Zelensky. Zaluzhny, BTW & FWIW, is scheduled to travel for meetings at the Pentagon soon.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:33, November 7, 2023 (EST)
  • Dreizin: MSM widely reports on Ukro-Napoleon Zaluzhny’s aide-de-camp being killed by a grenade gift set (*FINAL* police story is that he received, for his birthday, from an unnamed army friend, a sort-of joke gift box with 6 *REAL* grenades & a liquor bottle, & let his son play with them, not realizing they were real, then his son pulled the pin on one, & the guy snatched it away from his son)… But, MSM ***IGNORES*** Zaluzhny’s rapid response video message (SEE BELOW, did you doubt me???) in which he said NOT to gift him anything, NOT for any occasion, he doesn’t want any presents (***basically, declaring himself to be at risk of assassination.***) CNN, BBC, Guardian, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, etc., etc., DO NOT mention Zaluzhny’s video message in their coverage of this story. (I’m sure Bezos Post likewise, but they’re behind paywall. As for WSJ, no mention of Zaluzhny at all, for months.) They don’t even know what to do with it!!! The “party line” (regarding Zelensky-military spat) has not been INVENTED yet. They don’t have “authorization”, no marching orders. Until they know how to spin it, it’s TABOO. [11]

Comment: This sordid plot is right out of Tom Cruise's 2008 Operation Valkyrie. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:10, November 7, 2023 (EST)

Election news

  • Dreizin: Friday morning (U.S. ET) post 1 of 3: “Sources” tell CNN that Team Brandon already cracking due to loss of support from Michigan Gayrabs (Michigan being a potential “swing” state that Dems may lose IF they can’t push their fraud margin to exceed 1.5% of total votes.) Well, guess what, American elections require votes AND money. Who is #1 source of money for DNC and Democrat (establishment/incumbent) presidential campaigns? Answer: “Wall Street” (hedgefunders and others) Jews. Will they step up and say, “It’s them or us”… or is the Israel story going to end because American Jews didn’t want to fight, and had their heads up their asses with the “Dems at any cost, because Deplorables = Nazis” BS? We shall see!!! It’s not easy, these “smart people” have DELUDED and mentally TRAPPED themselves for years. (How many Trump hats have you seen at anti-Israel rallies lately?) Predictably, AIPAC and its astroturf “Democrat Majority for Israel” are wasting time on censuring Rashida Tlaib when the REAL threat is with the White House.
  • Dreizin: Virginia magic not extinguished? Republican candidate has 1000-vote lead over Soros-funded Loudon County prosecutor, who had lost support of & harassed mainline Democrat county leaders… & who had outspent his campaign by ***16X***. // Meanwhile, nationwide Republican party still in deep sh*t, as Ohio voters add abortion rights to state constitution by double digit margin, & Republican Kentucky (KY) governor challenger loses as only 1.3M of 3.6M KY registered voters (36%) voted this time. Incumbent Democrat lost 16.5K votes relative to 2019, while challenger (elected as Kentucky Attorney General in 2019 by 15.4% margin) ***lost 78.6K over Repub who ran in 2019 (!!!)*** Clearly, REPUBS ARE STILL NOTHING WITHOUT TRUMP ON THE BALLOT. Republican national brand is still IN THE GUTTER, stands for NOTHING. Meanwhile, insane NY Times above-the-fold headline from yesterday, recognizes zero opinion impact of Trump indictments, but raises hopes that he will tank once he is convicted. LOL, by way of ink on paper, you can see the gears turning in their brains! Like, “One more try, just one more try!”

Young Americans have turned against Biden

Only 25 percent of Americans under 35 support Biden. Are Dems under 30 a bunch of Hamas-supporting Jew haters? I am sure that's not the only explanation, but this article makes it sound that way. Whatever the reason, young voters stay at home unless a candidate gets them excited. It is hard to see Biden getting reelected if he has lost the constituency that put him in office in 2020. Update: Americans under 25 may not like Biden, but do you know what they do like? Genocide. See "Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas' Slaughter." I guess that's what happens when the youth of America is brought up by BLM. PeterKa (talk)

The thesis phase is just about complete—now comes antithesis the install the False Prophet of Revelation in power. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 13:14, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Now let's see if they go on the radical-liberal Newsom option...Dianne3000 (talk)
I think it's a done deal. They're already grooming him. Newsom got the full Putin treatment in Beijing while visiting Xi. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:30, November 6, 2023 (EST)
The only card Newsom and Co. Have is the abortion.Dianne3000 (talk)

Ah, man. This is too easy (Dec. 2011):

A new national poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds by the Institute of Politics (IOP) at the Harvard Kennedy School finds more millennials predict President Barack Obama will lose his bid for re-election (36 percent) than win (30 percent).

The new survey also shows former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney fairing best among potential Republican challengers in a general election match-up against Obama, trailing the president by 11 percentage points (Obama: 37 percent, Romney: 26 percent).

<snip>

“Our new polling data clearly shows millennials are growing more concerned over the direction of the country and effectiveness of Washington, D.C., to solve problems,” said IOP Director Trey Grayson. “The opportunity exists for all political parties and campaigns to re-engage this generation — those who do can maximize results in 2012.”

“While we are more than a year away, this survey may well serve as an ominous sign for Barack Obama’s 2012 chances and the political engagement of America’s largest generation,” said John Della Volpe, IOP polling director.[13]

ConwayIII (talk) 17:31, November 8, 2023 (EST)

umm, I think you meant to post this on the above thread... RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:38, November 8, 2023 (EST)
Move it as you see fit, man. I read both as one extended series of wishcasting. Biden's the nominee unless he dies first. ConwayIII (talk) 18:03, November 8, 2023 (EST)
Thanks, below we're discussing Biden's impending doom. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:20, November 8, 2023 (EST)

Biden loses the New York Times

In just the last two days, The New York Times has run "Trump Leads in 5 Critical States as Voters Blast Biden, Times/Siena Poll Finds" and "Joe Biden is in Trouble." Blacks and young people have turned against him. He is now the candidate of old white guys: "It's clear from consistent trends across multiple polls that Biden is bleeding support among Hispanic voters and Black voters — especially younger ones, and especially in swing states." Also, "The more diverse a state, the worse Biden does." Based on the NYT polls, Trump could get 300 Electoral College votes. I guess all that white supremacist bashing didn't do the job. Racial minorities also like law, order, and secure borders.

If there is good news about the economy, there is time for the polls to reverse themselves. But without the NYT and the mainstream media, Biden has got a much harder road ahead of him. My sense is that Biden would be much happier retired and living in Ireland. Its his wife Jill who is making him trudge on. Joe could be the one planting these stories. PeterKa (talk) 21:56, November 6, 2023 (EST)

The fix is in. The DNC has to dump both of them - Kamala too - without being seen as racist. It shows you how stupid Kamala is cause she's not speaking up now, knowing she's getting dumped.
Blinken and the State Department had to make the request to China for a personal meeting and photo op between Newsom & Xi Jinping, and explain why. All China had to do is say, "Gov. who? I'm sorry, President Xi is booked up at that time. He's meeting with the Girl Scouts top cookie seller." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:58, November 6, 2023 (EST)
Biden won't be on the ballot in New Hampshire. This is the same strategy Lyndon Johnson used in 1968 to exit the race without confronting his health problems. Every state has a primary nowadays, so New Hampshire isn't so special anymore. PeterKa (talk) 05:53, November 7, 2023 (EST)
So look to January when Newsom gets anointed, and Kamala gets stepped on under the cover story, "Biden withdraws". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:21, November 7, 2023 (EST)
Dick Morris: What now for Democrats? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:43, November 7, 2023 (EST)
Morris concurs with several aspects of my theory, but he doesn't explain why both Johnson and Biden made the same odd choice to run as write-ins in New Hampshire. Biden of course knows happened to Johnson, yet he does it anyway. Unlike Morris, I think it makes more sense to let the primary voters decide. Harris will either win or lose in the primaries and no one has to dump her. PeterKa (talk) 22:13, November 7, 2023 (EST)
Morris says Biden won't drop out until July or August, but I think you and me concur it's likely to occur between Jan - Mar. The big trick here is dumping Kamala quietly so she's never even considered a contender.
In both 1976 and 1992, Carter finished second in Iowa (to "Undecided") and Clinton finished second in NH ("the comeback kid"), yet NYT declared both the Second Coming of Christ. I think Dems figure their media allies can spark enthusiasm and momentum for their new messiah, Newsom, overnight (and bring back the youth vote, etc). Not being a national figure, Newsom doesn't carry the baggage Trump & Biden do. There are probably people willing to vote for anybody but Biden or Trump, including Mao, Hitler, Che Guevarra, Hillary, Lynn Cheney, etc.
When Biden gets dumped that will let a lot of air out of the bag for Trump. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:53, November 7, 2023 (EST)

Anarcho-capitalist and libertarian, Javier Milei, wins the presidency of Argentina

Javier Milei assumes office on December 10, 2023. [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] --CatolicoAustral (talk) 21:44, November 19, 2023 (EST)

Schedule F

A president currently has control of 4,000 federal jobs. Trump's proposed Schedule F reform would expand that number up to 50,000, according to the New York Times. A bipartisan federal bureaucracy that includes Republicans? For NYT, its time to cue the horror music. But to me, it sounds like a plan. Its a tiny percentage of America's 1.9 million civilian federal employees. PeterKa (talk) 19:09, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Somehow I feel we're not getting the whole or real story. This is not unlike Richard Nixon, who immediately after his re-election, asked for the entire Washington bureaucracy's resignations to get rid of all the Great Society and New Deal holdovers. It backfired, and they railroaded him out of town instead. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:20, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Wikipedia even has this information in its H. R. Haldeman article:
  • The Watergate "Smoking Gun" tape revealed that Nixon instructed Haldeman to have the CIA pressure the FBI into dropping its Watergate investigation. Nixon instructed him to tell the CIA that the investigation would "open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing again". In his book, Haldeman later wrote: "It seems that in all those references to the Bay of Pigs, he was actually referring to the Kennedy assassination."
RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:33, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Misleading MPR headline

"Koch brothers back neocon warmonger Nikki Haley." Um, David Koch has been dead for 4 years. "Koch network backs neocon warmonger Nikki Haley" would be more accurate. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 19:18, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Do we have a Redirect for Koch network or Koch brothers network? (Maybe we should even think about Moving Koch brothers to Koch brothers network.) RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:26, November 29, 2023 (EST)
Nevermind. It's all fixed now. Thanx for the heads up. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:29, November 29, 2023 (EST)
Yeah, no problem. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 21:22, November 29, 2023 (EST)

GOP news

  • Dreizin: Useless GOP to be punked again, as usual. Congressional “We found our hill to die on, FUND ISRAEL SEPARATELY!” Republicans about to be UNDERCUT, as 5 seconds after Blinken’s meeting with Netanyahu yesterday, Israeli media announced that Jesus Zelensky will visit, after all, and will shake hands for the cameras with Netanyahu, & it will look great to have all the Forces of Light together, making clear that they’re all on same side, & it’s the same issue (all in line with Team Brandon talking points)… like, when the Elves stood with Gondor. Well, who is Israel, to say no to GLOBOHOMO now? They held out for as long as they could. Jesus already waited 2000 years to return to Holy Land, but his visit now so urgent, reportedly, it might happen Tuesday or even tomorrow. Republicans, prepare for THE PHOTO-OP. Do you stand with Forces of Light… or with Dictators & Terrorists, as you did on “J6”??? (Also, per Ted Cruz, 9/11 & Pearl Harbor & stuff.) // ALSO… Below, see Dreizin’s phone chat “live blog” of Nasrallah’s Big Speech yesterday. It seems like the largest U.S. & allied naval & air deployment (even ships from 2 Asian Muslim countries) since 1991, has had its deterrent effect. [23]

Speaker Mike Johnson

Old quotes by Shreveport Republican Mike Johnson are surfacing now that he's Speaker of the House: “Your race, creed, and sex are what you are, while homosexuality and cross-dressing are things you do. This is a free country, but we don’t give special protections for every person’s bizarre choices.”[24] I'm wondering how many people over 50 could pass CNN's rule, which seems be, "No old quotes criticizing gays or gay marriage." Perhaps the network has forgotten that Obama was against gay marriage when he ran for president in 2008.

In middle school, we used to chant, "Smear the queer!" I had no idea what it meant. I just chanted along. This was in Texarkana. We could watch the political ads from Shreveport. Shreveport politics is, um, entertaining.

Johnson's views on energy and climate are right up my alley. See "Johnson brings pro-oil, climate-skeptical record to speakership." Hey, Biden is pro-oil too. He just wants the oil produced in Venezuela and Iran. PeterKa (talk) 20:33, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] Left-wing ideology has always been changing, and "right-wing" is defined as whatever is to the right of the present strain of Leftism. Jeffersonian Republicans were classical liberals who supported laissez-faires free-market capitalism and free trade, yet comprised the left wing of politics because they opposed the classically conservative and "aristocratic" Federalists. Subsequent hardline Jacksonianism and its left wing, especially the Young America movement under George Nicholas Sanders, supported free trade, the gold standard, the expansion of capitalism, and popular sovereignty. Of course, support for the gold standard changing from a left-wing position in antebellum years to right-wing in the postbellum era was due to changing circumstances: the central government was no longer dispensing gold alone, but greenbacks, and business interests once open to paper now supported a quick return to specie payments.
And so, the left-wing Democrats in the postbellum era were divided: some maintained the same positions regardless of changing political context (the purportedly "right-wing" August Belmont who supported specie in 1868 was previously a key figure in the radically liberal Young America movement), while others applied a consistent spirit of Jacksonianism now in support of greenbacks, particularly the Copperhead George H. Pendleton of Ohio. In Rutherford B. Hayes's winning gubernatorial campaign, the hardcore Jacksonian candidate William Allen used populist Jacksonian rhetoric in support of greenbacks against the "Money Power" and was labeled by Republican media outlets as a radical, Communist-aligned revolutionary. (see Eric Foner's book America's Unfinished Revolution)
Machine politics also demonstrates another change in political ideology definitions: countless Northeastern "reactionaries" were once aligned with or sympathetic to liberal reform in Reconstruction and the early Gilded Age. The Liberal Republican Party, to the left of the regular Grantist GOP element, were adamant supporters of laissez-faires and anti-Communist. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr., the poster child of archreactionary Republican politics in the Progressive Era, held sympathies with liberal reformers in the 1880s!
And the shift from the Progressive Era to the New Deal exemplifies the "old leftists become new rightists" perception further. Key Progressives such as Hiram Johnson, Burton K. Wheeler, and arguably even Clare Hoffman were once solid on the left, and yet at some point in the 1930s "moved rightward." Of course, what really happened was that the context changed: FDR attempted to circumvent constitutional separation of powers with his infamous court packing scheme, which was too much for Progressives to swallow: they were willing to support most New Deal initiatives, but the idea of packing the court to achieve liberal accomplishments was unacceptable.
The real shift in left–right ideology materialized in the World War II years. Price controls, stemming from a centralized bloated bureaucracy, was opposed by an alliance of conservatives and old-school Progressives, and because the issues were no longer primarily over tariff rates, public vs. private rural electrification, and tax rates on the rich, the Progressives increasingly aligned with conservatives in opposition to the "new liberalism" of FDR and Truman. The States' Rights Democratic Party (Dixiecrats) was anti–Fair Deal, but many were once solidly pro–New Deal. In fact, a college student at one point brutally mocked Dixiecrat supporters for claiming to support states' rights despite never opposing New Deal liberalism. This basically should put to bed the J. Lister Hill/Kevin Kruse narrative that Dixiecrats were part of an economically conservative conspiracy.
And this is just a condensed summary. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 20:36, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Your condensing needs condensing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:44, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
Saw him on the Sunday Foxnews show, a proud principled religious man. Dianne3000 (talk)
I hope I am wrong, but I am suspicious of new speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Mike Johnson. See: Impeach Biden, or let him crumble? GOP Rep. weighs 'political calculus' amid corruption probe and Momentum behind impeachment inquiry slows under new speaker. "Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), a constitutional lawyer by training, has taken a more reserved tone, both publicly and privately, urging members to conduct a thorough and fair investigation with no predetermined outcome. In a closed-door meeting with House GOP moderates this week, he indicated that there is insufficient evidence at the moment to initiate formal impeachment proceedings, according to people who attended the meeting."
Maybe Johnson is right about law and evidence regarding Biden's suspicious activity as he is a constitutional lawyer as is legal scholar Jonathon Turley, but it doesn't seem so (In addition, Turley's public testimony was about a month ago and more evidence has come to light). But now Jonathon Turley says this: Biden family has to choose between ‘cooperation’ or ‘contempt’: Jonathan Turley.
A big test will be whether or not the federal budget shrinks and/or by how much the federal budget shrinks under Johnson during his speakership. But it is true that Gingrich and Congress had the Tea Party movement putting pressure on them when the federal budget deficit was eliminated, but Johnson does not. Conservative (talk) 02:11, November 12, 2023 (EST)
"Shrunk": When was the last time the budget "shrunk"? Secondly, what would be the effect of "shrinking" the budget? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 09:38, November 12, 2023 (EST)
Still waiting to hear User:Conservative expound on monetary theory and monetary policy as a result of "shrinking" the federal budget, given the fact User: Conservative is a demographic expert and the population of the United States has grown 10 million in the past 3 with Biden's open borders. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:27, November 12, 2023 (EST)
Question: Don't these 10 million new inhabitants need some equivalent of per capita income in cash to prevent them from stealing for subsistence, which means inflating the money supply? How is that done? Alternatively, we could raise state and local taxes on citizens to pay for an increased criminal justice system of police, courts, and prisons if the feds don't pump up the money supply to accommodate the 10 million new inhabitants. So just exactly how are you going to handle this by "shrinking" the budget? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:34, November 12, 2023 (EST)
Bottomline: The only way to "shrink" the budget is to "shrink" the population, i.e. have less people alive at the end of 12 months than the year began with. Once again, User:Conservative makes himself a spokesperson for neo-fascism and genocide while calling himself a conservative and Republican. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:38, November 12, 2023 (EST)

There was a period of time between 1835 to 1837 where the USA was debt free in terms of national debt, but it did take fiscal discipline.

In addition, the USA dramatically reduced its huge WWII debt and this is a fact of history ("The fall in the U.S. public debt/GDP ratio from 106% in 1946 to 23% in 1974 is often attributed to high rates of economic growth"[25]).

The three ways that national governments can reduce federal debt are: cutting government spending, raising taxes and helping to increase economic growth so the federal government's revenue from taxes increases. I believe that the USA should focus on cutting government spending and increasing economic growth (More oil drilling, USA cutting regulations again like Trump did, etc.).

Regardless, was excessive USA national debt successfully dealt with in the fairly recent past? I ask this question to demonstrate that if it can be done in the past, it can be done in the present.

Let's look at the last 60 years in terms of reducing national debt: "Doing so requires the federal government to generate enough income to pay for all its spending. The U.S. has managed this feat only twice in the past 60 years – and both times involved raising taxes, something Republicans are loath to do. President Lyndon B. Johnson managed to do it in 1969, and President Bill Clinton created a surplus that ran from the fiscal years 1998 to 2001, when he left office... Clinton’s balanced-budget recipe was a mixture of higher revenues and lower spending, with help from a booming economy. In his second term, he also negotiated a bipartisan budget deal with Republicans."[26] Newt Gingrich/Bill Clinton did reduce government spending, instituted workfare instead of welfare, etc.

History shows that raising taxes can help solve economic problems (As can economic growth caused by cutting government spending due to big government spending and other prudent measures such as having a pro-business/capitalism economic environment), but how about reducing government spending and/or increasing economic growth? Does it work? Can it work better than raising taxes to eliminate government debt?

As far as cutting government spending, your hysterical diatribe shows a lack of imagination and an ignorance of history and economics. If developing countries can successfully implement austerity budgets to pay down their debt, certainly a developed country like the USA can do so (Examples of developed countries having successful austerity measures: Austerity Measures in Crisis Countries – Results and Impact on Mid-term Development). For example, due to the Eurozone Crisis, austerity measures were successfully implemented in various European countries to help some countries remove some government debt. Measures taken by Euro leaders became very unpopular, but the crisis was dealt with in the end. Japan is now a pretty good place to invest because they payed off their debt and ended their balance sheet recession (Roaring Back From Pandemic, Japan’s Economy Grows at 6% Rate, August 2023). One of the greatest leaders of the 20th century was Margaret Thatcher who had the nickname of the "Iron lady". People frequently say that Margaret Thatcher's austerity and privatization policies (Privatization increased economic growth) were a "tough pill to swallow" but in the end her policies were very successful and turned the British economy around. As a result, Thatcher was the longest-serving Prime Minister in 20th-century British history.

The Mosaic law: "Six days you shall work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even in plowing time and in harvest time you shall rest."- Exodus: 34:21

Moses never told the Israelites to retire at age sixty-five.

Also, for thousands of years, mankind largely worked until they were unable to work. The Bible says to work 6 days and not 5 and in tougher economic times some people are going to have to work longer. In Proverbs 13:22, King Solomon wrote: “A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children.” How are many more Americans going to do that if they retire at 65? The absurd and counterfactual notion that Americans need to retire at 65 is an absurd notion and many Americans now realize this and as a result are now retiring later. The age at which U.S. citizens can receive social security benefits should be raised for all able-bodied persons who are able to do so (Not caring for a sickly spouse who can't work). Also, the US Department of Education is a post Jimmy Carter institution and could easily be abolished so local governments have a bigger role. Big government in the USA can do some belt-tightening and to deny this fact is the height of economic ignorance, historical ignorance and foolish thinking.

I realize that things like austerity budgets and doctors telling fat people that they have to some dietary belt-tightening are things that can be unpopular, but reality necessitates corrective action.

With that being said, am I against the USA removing a lot of illegal aliens - especially ones who are not economically productive in the short and/or long term? It certainly can be done and I am certainly not against removing illegal immigrants who are economically unproductive, criminals, etc. Between 1953-1954 as many as 1.3 million people were deported during the Eisenhower Administration. What the next president does remains to be seen. Regardless, big government spending in the USA can and should be reduced.

Because it is unlikely that every single illegal immigrant is going to be eventually deported, what percentage of the illegal immigrants that crossed USA border recently and remain in the country are going to be economically unproductive? I don't know. Certainly not all of them as evidenced by the Trump Tower construction using illegal Polish immigrants. As in many things involving economics, there are winners, losers and tradeoffs when it comes to legal/illegal immigration. For example, a Harvard economist argued in 2016: "Here’s the problem with the current immigration debate: Neither side is revealing the whole picture. Trump might cite my work, but he overlooks my findings that the influx of immigrants can potentially be a net good for the nation, increasing the total wealth of the population. Clinton ignores the hard truth that not everyone benefits when immigrants arrive. For many Americans, the influx of immigrants hurts their prospects significantly."[27] I take the position of Trump on immigration which is that the USA immigration system needs to be reformed so the USA gets the very best immigrants, some illegal immigrants should be deported via tougher illegal immigrant laws enforcement and there should be a border wall across Mexico.

But at the end of the day, I am far more bullish on the future of USA than I am about the future of China and Russia which I cover at: [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]. Conservative (talk) 07:36, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Wrong answer. You clearly don't understand the influence of the gold standard on the national debt nor anything about monetary policy. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 09:54, November 13, 2023 (EST)
User:Conservative: "History shows that raising taxes can help solve economic problems" - 07:36, November 13, 2023 (EST).
RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:11, November 13, 2023 (EST)
“ And he said unto them, What advice give ye that we may return answer to this people, which have spoken to me, saying, Ease somewhat the yoke that thy father did put upon us? [i.e., cut taxes] And the young men that were brought up with him spake unto him, saying, Thus shalt thou answer the people that spake unto thee, saying, Thy father made our yoke heavy, but make thou it somewhat lighter for us; thus shalt thou say unto them, My little finger shall be thicker than my father's loins. For whereas my father put a heavy yoke upon you, I will put more to your yoke: my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions. [i.e., raise taxes] ”

—2 Chron 10

RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:53, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Setting aside that you wrenched a quote of mine out of context, my essay at [[Essay: The USA can reduce its national debt. It has done it before]] notes:

According to Investopedia, "Austerity measures are implemented to reduce government spending and shrink the budget deficit. Austerity policies include tax increases and government program cuts. Austerity measures may result in a decline in available social services and a reduced individual disposable income."[28]
The history of recent austerity measures, as will be shortly described below, shows that raising taxes and shrinking government debt through government cost-cutting, can help solve economic problems associated with excessive government debt, but how about reducing government spending and/or increasing economic growth? Does it work? Can it work better than raising taxes to eliminate government debt? Obviously, setting taxes too low can prevent governments from doing their vital/important functions, but setting taxes too high disincentives workers from earning wages so a balance is needed (See: Laffer Curve: History and Critique).

I trust reading my essay helps clarify matters. Conservative (talk) 13:49, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I just added this to my essay: "Paring back social security benefits by increasing the retirement age would not only reduce its budget which is a big expense of the U.S. Federal government, but it could potentially reduce Medicare cost. How? There would be less retired senior citizen coach potatoes increasing their health risk due to sedentary behavior." Conservative (talk) 14:06, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I trust reading your essays only leaves people more confused.

Gimme the proper context for 2 Chron chapt 10? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 14:13, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I was referring to you wrenching a quote of mine out of context. Regardless, I clearly showed that the U.S. government can and should reduce its federal debt through lower spending. Conservative (talk) 14:20, November 13, 2023 (EST)
Oh, I don't doubt that's what you intended to do, but the method you use or recommend doesn't get you there. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 14:26, November 13, 2023 (EST)

DeSantis Haley fight expected to dominate Third Republican Debate

https://time.com/6332400/republican-debate-israel-nikki-haley-ron-desantis/ I think DeSantis will win this debate and continue to do well.

"During the debate, Haley is expected to contrast her more hawkish views on Israel and Ukraine with the more isolationist views of the Florida governor and another competitor, biotech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy. But where Haley’s allies view her experience as a strength, the DeSantis camp thinks voters prefer his ideology. “While Haley is strongest among ‘moderate and left-of-center Republicans,’ she has a ballot ceiling that will not allow her to appeal to the much larger ‘America First’ base of the party,” the DeSantis memo reads.

DeSantis’ campaign is arguing that Haley is a distraction from the real fight for the GOP nomination between the Florida Governor and the former President.

“This is a two-man race,” DeSantis Press Secretary Bryan Griffin wrote in a statement. “Team Trump knows it—that's why they're spending over $1 million this week alone to attack DeSantis in Iowa despite proclaiming the primary was 'over' in August. And the other candidates know it, too. With all the attacks and attention focused on DeSantis, we know we are over the target and primed to win this nomination."NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:39, November 8, 2023 (EST)

Tim Scott Drops out: DeSantis Comments

"Tim Scott is a strong conservative with bold ideas about how to get our country back on track. I respect his courage to run this campaign and thank him for his service to America and the U.S. Senate.

I look forward to Tim continuing to be a leader in our party for years to come."

https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1723901446867857585 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:26, November 13, 2023 (EST)

He's too much of a student under the wing of the senior senator from South Carolina and neocon warmonger, Lindsey Graham. I understand, South Carolina gets more military spending than any other state, but he has to find his own voice in foreign policy. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 01:35, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Vermin to the rescue

When Biden calls his critics racists, white supremacists, and "mega-MAGA," the liberal media thinks he's done a day's work. No previous president would insult Americans just for voting against him. But the MSM blanches when Trump uses the word "vermin." Its the old "just like Hitler" game. Hitler used the word vermin, Trump used the word vermin. So Trump is just like Hitler. To take this "argument" more seriously than it deserves to be taken, I created an ngram for word "vermin". The takeaway: Vermin was a pretty common word in Hitler's time. Hitler was hardly the only WWI soldier who came out of trenches hating vermin. The word is less common today. It is absurd to use it as a marker for Nazism.
Update Fidel Castro liked to call his enemies "worms." PeterKa (talk) 15:21, November 14, 2023 (EST)

Hitler also used toothpaste and toilet paper. I guess we're all guilty. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 15:26, November 14, 2023 (EST)

Netherlands

Big upset for Globalists, Geert Wilders party won 35% of votes --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:05, November 22, 2023 (EST)

Faith news

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is now a Christian! Hallelujah!

"The lesson I learned from my years with the Muslim Brotherhood was the power of a unifying story, embedded in the foundational texts of Islam, to attract, engage and mobilise the Muslim masses. Unless we offer something as meaningful, I fear the erosion of our civilisation will continue. And fortunately, there is no need to look for some new-age concoction of medication and mindfulness. Christianity has it all.

That is why I no longer consider myself a Muslim apostate, but a lapsed atheist. Of course, I still have a great deal to learn about Christianity. I discover a little more at church each Sunday. But I have recognised, in my own long journey through a wilderness of fear and self-doubt, that there is a better way to manage the challenges of existence than either Islam or unbelief had to offer."

From: https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:32, November 13, 2023 (EST)

This is setback for Atheists --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:05, November 14, 2023 (EST)

Oh cool! Except the outreach of Christians to Muslims is non-existent when you factor in that on information and belief they allowed themselves to be suckers to the progressives in the FBI and in the State Department to force same-sex marriage on all Western countries and apparently former African colonies?
Do I want to get married in countries where marital rites are polluted by the state recognizing them after having been terrorized by bogus mass killings? No. Do many, many young conservative kids? Probably not. Are the mass killing stories true in the first place. Well, I learned the news in the presence of you guys. You have a staff of what, a dozen regulars who do everything while at the same time a nation of millions of young Christian conservatives exist that could potentially contribute to this website?
Is that either consistent with the known facts or plausible? No. Is every last conservative isolated with a personalized Conservapedia and Twitter in order to wreck their lives and paralyze them with fear for the safety of their country? Maybe not all, but quite possibly some! So we're expected to believe the Jews, Arabs and homosexuals won some secret war to take over America, while everybody else has to sit and take it while they wreck both sacred penance and sacred matrimony, organize minority groups in their own image and cause the country to disintegrate through agitation, the next phase through hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees arriving after what very much looks like a bogus war caused by bogus mass atrocities to divert attention from their homegrown atrocities and cause a Stockholm-Syndrome-type relationship towards them after the shock of the betrayal of marriage to homosexuals? Do you want the potential bloodbath on your consciences should those Palestinians arrive on our shores?
Did you know they already did this starting early 1987 after they caused the AIDS epidemic through the sexual revolution and tried to shameface their way through it by dragging the rest of the country down with them to their level as a sort of sympathy defilement, then even renegotiated on that payment by continuing to politicize AIDS events as benefitting persons engaged in behavior for which they never repented as well as falsified claims of persecution?
But you should probably explain first the lack of conservatives who contribute here first, and why you have no rivals on the internet that would explain the discrepancy. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 01:56, November 20, 2023 (EST)
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge", Hosea 4:6. The conservative movement has too many individualist thinkers who refuse to cooperate with each other and organize. You can't herd stray cats or lone wolves. It's a natural inborn rebelliousness, in a sense. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 07:38, November 20, 2023 (EST)

Video from Catholicism: "American Christians (who are unconditional Zionists, even when Zionist Israel persecute Christians) have zero honor"

Wake up, careless .... NishantXavierFor Christ the King 11:25, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Wait wait wait....all I hear is support for Ukrainian and Palestinian Nazis from you.... 11:36, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Meanwhile, you promoted a neo-Nazi website on my talk page. And Nishant is defending Palestinian Christians, not Palestinian Nazis. Are you implying that Nazis are Christians? —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:20, November 27, 2023 (EST)
You keep saying that. Put up or shut up. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:36, November 27, 2023 (EST)
I already did before, and here is the revision link: Special:Diff/1996431 —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:48, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Oh, Okay. Thanks. If it were in a Mainspace article, the characterization of "promoting" might apply; not so much on a discussion page. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 13:18, November 27, 2023 (EST)
"bUt it wasn't rEaL promotion of Nazism. Real Nazi-sympathizing has never been tried before!11!1" —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:19, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Not to digress to far from the point of this thread, discussion pages are for exchange of ideas and sources, even those ideas and sources on the origins of the "Nazi epitaph" that aren't covered in Wikipedia mainspace. That post was about Konrad Heiden, whom you apparently never heard of, which is covered elsewhere on the web without reference to his critics. That link gives about as much full information (which you can research yourself) on a single page. That's what discussion pages are for. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 13:29, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Is that so? You should read this, written by yours truly: https://www.conservapedia.com/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_World_Today

"In 2023, Open Doors reported on an ongoing Global Genocide - the terrible and unparalleled Persecution of 360 Million Christians, which deserves to be called a Second or Ongoing Holocaust. [1][2][3] "More than 360m Christians suffer high levels of persecution and discrimination for their faith.

In Open Doors’ World Watch List top 50 alone, 312m Christians face very high or extreme levels." This demands urgent attention from all Christians and humanitarians concerned with Human Rights everywhere. Those who claim: "If I lived in the days of the Holocaust, I would do everything in my power to prevent it" have the opportunity now to do so with this Second Holocaust. It is a Moral Obligation for all Good People everywhere to help end this Violence."

Who are you, btw? I can't even see your name?

If one is a Christian, one should stand with other Christians who love Jesus first. Not those who hate Yeshua, call Him Yeshu as a slur, as in the Talmud and Toledot Yeshu, and then hate Christians because they hate Yeshua. As Christians, stand with Christians first. Secondly, end times paralysis is absolute foolishness. One should Evangelize All Nations as Christ commanded in the Great Commission. He also clearly said in the Gospel that the End will not come till All Nations hear the Gospel. Some 2 BN have not heard. End times speculation is fine, but it can't stop us from Evangelizing and doing the Christian, Moral and Humane thing of supporting Persecuted Christians. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 12:11, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Ah checked in the edit history. None other than Rob. Ok. No issue. I stand by what I said. As Christians, let's stand with Christians.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 12:13, November 27, 2023 (EST)

It constitutes moral hypocrisy for right-wing evangelical "Christians" and likewise supporters of Israel to (at least partially) justify their ideology on biblical grounds and forsake their love for innocent Arab Gazans as fellow people. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." (1 John 4:8)
And I understand the counterarguments: most Arab Gazans voted in Hamas, etc. etc. Well, does this justify the extents to which Israel is mass-bombing Gaza? Indeed, Hamas despicably uses civilians as human shields, though Israel should know this and refrain from indiscriminate slaughtering that results in needless deaths. Remember, God vowed not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if there were even only ten righteous people found there. (Gen. 18:32) If "Israel" is to represent biblical Jewish values, it needs to be a light unto the world instead of following after Baal and Ashtoreth. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:19, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Why do you think Israel was founded in 1948? Cause after nearly 2,000 years Jews couldn't get a fair shake in "civilized', "democratic" and "Christian" Europe. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:38, November 27, 2023 (EST)

"'Christian' Europe." Ah yes, the first beast of Revelation 13. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:49, November 27, 2023 (EST)
If NishantXavier would have in mind persecuted Christians he would post constantly about Islamic persecution of Christians, not about a few people whom the Zionist authorities and leadership actually cracks down...

One day he posts about Talmud, the other day about Zionists (which the two are not related). Of course his hate is all over the place. BTW. Over 90% of Palestinians are Muslims. And polls show, most are radicals. And of course there are more Christians inside Israel than in Gaza. He should also follow Yoseph Haddad.Dianne3000 (talk)

Let's clarify some fundamental facts

Marxism, socialism, communism, fascism and Nazism are entirely Western European and Western civilization inventions that were imposed upon the peoples of Eastern Europe and China without their democratic consent. Who is the victim here? And who is (or was) a threat to who?

Even in China today, they practice "Socialism with Chinese characteristics", because socialism in its purest form is an invention of Western culture, and Western civilization, that was imposed upon the people of China.

Socialism, in its many forms, is a sign of a deeply spiritual and cultural rot, that Western civilization has exported to the rest of the world, manifested today in Western society in the LGBT and transgender movements. Get you own house in order before you start pointing the finger at Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, or the CCP for the world's problems. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 16:03, November 27, 2023 (EST)

"Get you own house in order before you start pointing the finger" Aside from your incorrect grammar, I can agree with this part: the U.S., with its abortion-genocide problem, doesn't have any business pretending to be a global purveyor of human rights. As for "Socialism with Chinese characteristics," it's nothing more than Fascism. In China, they claim it's still "Communism" but there's a combination of "capitalist" tenets with state ownership, so in no meaningful sense is it "true" full-on Communism. In addition, they follow a pseudo-"national-conservative" cultural approach and the brainwashed youth are ultranationalists. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 16:10, November 27, 2023 (EST)
So who is a threat to who? the East to the West, or the West to the East, being that faulty Western ideologies have brainwashed and enslaved hundreds of millions of people? I address this question to User:Conservative, being that he has made himself quite the articulate spokesperson for neocon, globalist and Clintonian foreign policy.
Look at the latest neocon tripe User:Conservative added just yesterday, "Oleg Deripaska, described as President Vladimir Putin's "favorite oligarch"; Yah, Oleg Deripaska, the man who along with Hillary Clinton hired Christopher Steele to write the Steele dossier. The man who worked for Robert Mueller, and Andy McCabe was his case officer.
I'm sure an FBI informant is "Putin's favorite oligarch". Anybody who knows how to read can see what a massive pile of doggie doo-doo that is.
As Jesus said, "No man can serve two masters." You can't serve Robert Mueller and Vladimir Putin. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 16:25, November 27, 2023 (EST)
The real mind-boggling stupidity on the part of User:Conservative is wasting hours upon hours of his time trolling you across mainspace, essay, and talk pages; since he refuses to pay attention to my exhortations elsewhere, I suppose I'll just have to state the quiet part out loud right here. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:46, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Neocon warmonger news

"Average Americans have tuned out their elite’s snobbish arguments about the so-called “rules-based order”, “values”, “democracy”, and whatnot since many were misled by them in early 2022 into expecting “total victory” over Russia only to now discover that what they were promised is impossible.
"The UK’s Financial Times published a piece by Gideon Rachman on Monday fearmongering about “China, Russia, Iran and the prospect of American retreat”. He attempts to appeal to those Americans who are attracted to foreign policy pragmatism, or reconsidering their overextended country’s international commitments, by acknowledging their concerns about the present policy. He then suddenly shifts towards warning about global chaos if that happens, however, which discredits his argument.
"Nevertheless, the very fact that a Western Mainstream Media outlet as influential as the Financial Times felt it necessary to feign sympathy with American foreign policy pragmatists as part of a ploy for swaying them towards supporting their country’s present role as the “world policeman” speaks volumes. It belies how uncomfortable they’ve become with popular trends there over the past 20 months. Far from reasserting US hegemony, NATO’s proxy war on Russia through Ukraine only accelerated its decline."
Now, if you wish to refute Korybko, perhaps you can find solace in this piece written by the socialist historian Eric Zeuse: Poll: Most Americans want a more neoconservative, militaristic, U.S. Government. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:24, November 16, 2023 (EST)
Simply put: User:Conservative#User:_Conservative.27s_political_essays is just a collection of Bidenista screeds doing more harm than good. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:38, November 16, 2023 (EST)
So the question is: Why did Biden embark on this disastrous foreign policy path? The answer is, it didn't happen suddenly, and Biden did it for the same domestic policy prerogatives as his 1994 Crime Bill - to show Americans a Democrat president can be just as tuff on crime or pro-defense spending, if not more, as a Republican. He doesn't like Democrats being called soft on crime or pansies. Who cares if a million Iraqis, half million Ukrainians, or 2 million Gazans get killed? They don't vote in American elections. And Biden has enlisted User:Conservative to help carry the message for the past 20 months. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:00, November 16, 2023 (EST)
I'm glad you're so concerned with the neo-con fringe of Conservativism. It's obviously the most relatable part to you even though their activities are solely determined by how the members of the Judean religion have to compensate matters from this sub-group of theirs to all other sub-groups they might happen to have to maximize their profitability, political or otherwise!
So there's no need to speculate about what the significance of this or that neo-con policy is. You can just ask any given member for a rough idea of how significant the neo-cons' ideas are at any given moment or phase in some self-centered national political operation by whatever little shifts they have to encounter in their day-to-day lives in whatever bogus political front in which they happen to be engaged.
They merely have to regularly take the change in leverage they might have based on their own orientation on the political compass and distance from their guess as to center of gravity of the sum of policies of all members scattered about the political compass and compare it to how they think the latest policy change tilts things to get an idea of how a given event tilts things. Then they can take the leverage of what they guess the neo-con fringe of conservatism currently is, based on its distance from the center and rightward orientation on the political compass, and compare it to how a given policy change like an influx of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees is going to tilt things based on the center of gravity for the various groups of the religion as a whole.
"This is Jesus fellow is ranter. He ranted at the synagogue and got pushed out bodily and marched to a cliff and barely escaped with his life when we lost sight of him!"
Jesus Christ: "I'll teach in parables from now on."
VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 02:50, November 20, 2023 (EST)
I agree - neocon is a misnomer. Neocons were johnny-come-lately to the party - they rejected their leftist roots but didn't embrace conservativism, either. So they took the name 'neocon'. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 07:44, November 20, 2023 (EST)
Even the Soviet Union had their own neocons - that's who organized the August 1991 coup. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 07:53, November 20, 2023 (EST)

Biden unlocks billions for Iran

For five weeks, the Democrats tried to pose as decent human beings. In the end, it was too much for them: "Biden Unlocks Fresh Funds to Iran Totaling Billions." PeterKa (talk) 11:15, November 15, 2023 (EST)

Yah, we got it on MPR. No wonder voters are confused. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 11:25, November 15, 2023 (EST)
And the democrats will keep saying they are sure it goes for food...Dianne3000 (talk)
So it's a bribe or blackmail payoff to keep Iran out of the war? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:22, November 18, 2023 (EST)

Good/Bad insurrections

Can’t wait to see how the DOJ handles the Nov 15 insurrection [30].Dianne3000 (talk)

A New Super-Power is Rising in Europe

"The European continent has been dominated by superpowers like France, Germany, and the United Kingdom for decades. But there is a new power rising in Europe and it might not be the country you expect. Poland is rising in power ©Provided by The Daily Digest" https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/there-s-a-new-major-superpower-rising-in-europe/ss-AA1cbxQe?cvid=042344e47d4b48b0b05b62887ee9e924&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=4

The Rise of Pro-Life Conservative Catholic Christian Poland - that recently publicly and solemnly declared Jesus Christ as King - as Europe's Next Super-Power is Good News for Christianity and Conservativism, and shows that Pro-Life Christianity is far from dead in Christian Europe.

See: "In a ceremony at the Church of Divine Mercy in Krakow last week, Jesus was declared the king of Poland.

The ceremony, attended by Poland's President Andrzej Duda, marked the end of the Catholic Church's Year of Mercy.

People from around the country came together and declared Christ king over their country and their hearts.

"In our hearts, rule us, Christ! In our families, rule us, Christ! ... In our schools and universities, rule us, Christ! ... Through the Polish nation, rule us, Christ! ... We pledge to defend your holy worship and preach Thy royal glory, Christ our King, we promise!" they prayed.

Their bold statement was a reminder that God comes before everything.

"We entrust the Polish people and Polish leaders to you," the prayer continued. "Make them exercise their power fairly and in accordance with your laws. ... rule us, Christ! Reign in our homeland and reign in every nation – for the greater glory of the most Holy Trinity and the salvation of mankind." https://www2.cbn.com/news/news/poland-declares-jesus-king-country Hallelujah! NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:21, November 28, 2023 (EST)

A country needs 3 things to be very powerful: People, economic strength and military (And good geography helps too). In 2021, Poland’s fertility rate – meaning the average number of children born to a woman in her lifetime – stood at 1.33, according to Eurostat. [31] Countries with low fertility rates and not enough immigration (combined with a good education/training system to make the immigrants productive) to compensate turn into large nursing homes. I hope Poland doesn't go to war because that will make their situation worse. Conservative (talk) 20:19, November 28, 2023 (EST)

Poland is being set up to be the next Ukraine - NATO has plans to exterminate the Polish adult male population next once they're done with Ukraine. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 00:22, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Trump praising BLM

Trump praising terrorist group of BLM was cringe move, I hope you to remove this from main page --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:30, November 30, 2023 (EST)

To build a coalition you need to make peace. Would you rather have them as enemies or allies? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:01, November 30, 2023 (EST)
Not with terrorist criminal group like BLM --Alex Kosh (talk) 18:13, November 30, 2023 (EST)
It's one guy from a local chapter in Rhode Island. Each BLM vote against Trump cancels out one MAGA voter. GOP needs to become more welcoming to repentant sinners. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:16, November 30, 2023 (EST)
I’m not convinced he’s repentant.--Geopolitician (talk) 11:34, December 1, 2023 (EST)
10,000 angels dance on the head of a pin with the prayer of one repentant sinner.
Nah, the truth is, not everyone connected with the movement or organization is a riotous thug. Sure, there were criminal elements in the J6 crowd (in addition to the FBI), but the majority of people were just along for the ride. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:37, December 1, 2023 (EST)
He was in the leadership of a violent Marxist subversion group, and does not appear to have renounced its core ideology. If he is not an outright mole, then all he does is give credibility to fringe elements such as the “MAGA Communists” and the “Boogaloo Boyz.” Neither of those things are desirable now or ever.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:03, December 1, 2023 (EST)
He's a co-founder of the Rhode Island chapter. It doesn't really matter, he's a one day story. But others will speak up now, as well. Many blacks signed onto the movement who did not engage in violence. Someone needs to remind them that Dr. King rejected violence. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 11:04, December 4, 2023 (EST):::
So what if they didn’t engage in violence? They still signed onto the movement.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:35, December 4, 2023 (EST)
People are stupid, as if it needs being said. 17:40, December 4, 2023 (EST)
Tell that to the people who lost their beloved ones because BLM terrorist riots, or ones who their properties destroyed. J6 rioters didnt kill anyone

No way you can compare BLM with J6 --Alex Kosh (talk) 23:55, December 1, 2023 (EST)

As an ideology, I wouldn't give BLMers a lot of credit for intellectual curiosity. Most never heard of Marx. They surely never heard of Marx in high school history or civics class.
Normally I would agree with you here. But this guy isn’t an ordinary BLMer. He’s a BLM leader. So we must presume he is more ideologically driven than his ordinary counterparts.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:02, December 3, 2023 (EST)
In his own words (whatever his name was) he rejects the Democrat party because of its war on the nuclear family. That was founding tenet of BLM that he evidentially never read. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:13, December 4, 2023 (EST)
Just because he rejects the Democrat party and supports the nuclear family doesn’t mean he’s rejected Marxism.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:35, December 4, 2023 (EST)
There's no evidence he ever heard of Marxism or knows what it is. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:40, December 4, 2023 (EST)
Sure there is. His rank in the BLM leadership is evidence in and of itself.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:46, December 4, 2023 (EST)
We had people right here in Conservapedia supporting neo-Nazism and Ukraine. What does that say about conservativism? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:20, December 4, 2023 (EST)
On a propaganda level, BLM and MAGA have a lot in common in the choice of a name - Black Lives Matter and Make America Great Again; as a movement grows and gains momentum, you choose a name that is impossible to disagree with, putting critics on the defensive. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 15:34, December 3, 2023 (EST)
Governor Cuomo said, "America was never that great." People risked being canceled for saying "All Lives Matter". RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:21, December 4, 2023 (EST)

Russian Supreme Court rule LGBT an extremist ideology

Under Russian federal law, this puts LGBT on the same footing as Nazi and fascist ideology. The LGBT movement is about to find out what a mistake it was to create their own rainbow flag. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 16:25, December 3, 2023 (EST)

"The Federal Assembly has cracked down on the LGBTQ community, passing legislation outlawing gender-affirming surgeries and banning “gay propaganda”.
Terminating a pregnancy is a legal and widely available procedure in Russia, but in recent weeks and months, a flurry of new laws appear to limit abortion access amid fears of further population declines and a push towards conservatism. Russia’s population peaked in 1992 at 149 million and is now down to about 144.4 million – a declining trend observed in several Western nations too. Russia continues to record about 1.5 births per woman, which is below the rate of 2.1 needed to maintain the population."[32]
Putin calls on Russian women to have 'eight or even more children' after population fell by 550,000 during first year of his war in Ukraine.
The rural areas of Russia are more socially conservative and an election is coming up in Russia. Conservative (talk) 22:13, December 4, 2023 (EST)

DeSantis totally dominates and completely crushes Newsom

Haven't commented on Conservapedia for a while, but watched the debate some time back, and it was, metaphorically, a brutal bloodbath. I think many Millions saw for the first time what an Asset for Conservatism a President DeSantis would be as he metaphorically killed Newsom.

"This is a map of San Francisco. There’s a lot of plots on that. You may be asking ‘what is that plotting?’

This is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the streets of San Francisco.

That is what has happened in one of the previous greatest cities this country has ever had."

https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1730430668335620458 DeSantis all the way for the win without a doubt. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 13:27, December 4, 2023 (EST)

Prediction: DeSantis will win 25% of the vote in Iowa at least and possibly 40-50%

See below:

"DeSantis has near 50K caucus commitments in Iowa.

Iowa is projected to have 200K turnout for the caucus, could be even more. If it is more, that favors DeSantis.

At the 200K number, and with caucus commitments having a near perfect turnout rate in Iowa as they are fully invested, DeSantis already sits at 25%.

The magic number is just below or at 40%, so all DeSantis is tasked to do is take 15% out of 50% of GOP voters who are considering multiple candidates.

With DeSantis doing the full Grassley, being endorsed by 150+ faith leaders, offering to move the Department of Agriculture to Iowa for farmers (decentralize the bureaucratic monopoly), being endorsed by Governor Kim Reynolds/Bob Vander Plaats/Steve Deace/multiple law enforcement figures, etc.

DeSantis isn't just going to win Iowa. He's going to win convincingly and go on a tear all the way to 47!" https://twitter.com/NonMagadonian/status/1731299805660352736 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 14:17, December 4, 2023 (EST)

DeSantis is yesterday's news. The establishment dumped him and backs Haley now. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:41, December 4, 2023 (EST)

Lol. Wait and see who's going to dump the Liberal Establishment and Choose Conservative Hero Governor Ron De Santis: Iowa voters. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:20, December 4, 2023 (EST)

Haley is the candidate of the RNC establishment and donor base. They dumped DeSantis more than a month ago. And Trump has the GOP populist and voter base wrapped up (plus independents and disillusioned Democrats and BLMers). RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:24, December 4, 2023 (EST)

"Average as of Dec. 4, 2023 Trump 44.6% DeSantis 17.7%"

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/iowa/

Watch this over the next month. If the Polls are honest, we'll be at Trump 40, DeSantis 30 at the least by New Year 2024. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:09, December 4, 2023 (EST)

DeSantis only prayer is if Robert Kagan and the CIA whack Donald Trump. [33] RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 20:32, December 4, 2023 (EST)

The fourth Republican debate may have just three participants

The fourth Republican debate may have just three participants

https://abcnews.go.com/538/fourth-republican-debate-participants/story?id=105319635 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:17, December 4, 2023 (EST)

Trump currently has a 78.7% of winning the GOP primary according to a weighted average stats of the leading political betting markets.
It looks like Trump will lose the New York State civil fraud case which hurts him financially and appeals only have a 8% chance of occurring in that state. The prosecutors in Georgia for the criminal RICO case are playing hardball and no plea deal has been offered. As far as the classified document case, I doubt it will get much traction considering that the Supreme Court is conservative and Biden/Clintons are not very strong when it comes to classified documents. You can run for president as a convicted felon.
The GOP is going to push ahead with Biden's impeachment. Conservative (talk) 22:16, December 4, 2023 (EST)

DeSantis team HAS KNOCKED on WELL OVER 1 MILLION HOUSES in SOUTH CAROLINA

From: https://twitter.com/grossi_j65671/status/1731862229165682917

"JUST IN: @RonDeSantis SUPER PAC @NvrBackDown24 HAS KNOCKED on WELL OVER 1 MILLION HOUSES in SOUTH CAROLINA, the MOST BY FAR! No candidate comes remotely close to the ground game that @RonDeSantis has. Despite all the negative press by the biased dishonest media, NBD has built the best ground game in Iowa, NH, NV, and SC by far and will continue to do so! No one is better organized and no one has a better GOTV. The reality on the ground shows Ron is surging and has tremendous grass roots support and will win in 2024 by a landslide!"

DeSantis might win by Super Tuesday at this rate. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:40, December 4, 2023 (EST)

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