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Social media moves to ban conservatives

Today is certainly a banner day for censorship. See "YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer, and more." and "Reddit Permanently Bans Pro-Trump Community ‘The_Donald’." We would never tolerate a telephone company banning people over their politics. Is it time to abolish Section 230? PeterKa (talk) 22:45, 29 June 2020 (EDT)

Peter, I've given this a lot of thought, and I've come to this conclusion: I don't think (Dr.) David Duke is a conservative. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 08:45, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

Backgrounder: the new Russia hoax

So, what is the significance of the new Russia hoax?

To begin, let's lay out the background facts. All potential enemies of the U.S. know that the best time to carry out a longtime design is in the months prior to a presidential election. Presidential election years essentially paralyze U.S. ability to react. For example, Russia's design on Abkhazia in the Summer of 2008. Or, if China wants Taiwan in addition to Hong Kong, the South China Sea, and portions of its border with India and Nepal, now is the time to act.

So what is the significance vis-à-vis Afghanistan?

Everybody knows the U.S. wants out. Everybody knows Trump wants out.

So why are we still there?

Somebody must control the opium poppy and heroin trade. It is either us or our enemies. The global heroin trade cannot be eradicated. The War on Drugs is just window dressing, making idiot middle class taxpayers think the U.S. is fighting via interdiction the corruption of our children, but that's election year rhetoric, impracticable, and a waste of money (educating children is the only way to fight drugs).

So, if the U.S. intelligence agencies which control and profit from the global heroin trade (producing enough revenue to offset the cost of the strawman War on Drugs), do not control the heroin trade, who will? There are three competing candidates - (1) Islamic terrorists; (2) China; (3) Russia. Whom do U.S. citizen taxpayers wish to give up control of a vital national security asset to? Whom do U.S. citizen taxpayers wish to entrust with the lives, security, and futures of their children?

Forget China. Forget Islamist terror groups. Russia, Putin, and the global Russian mafia seems to be the best candidate to take over this $60 billion a year industry. Russia wants it.

Now we must revisit for a moment military doctrine. Russia gave up control of the global heroin trade in 1988 when they abandoned Afghanistan. Islamic terrorists took it over and benefitted. After 9/11, the CIA took it over and has run it ever since.

How does this relate to military doctrine?

In the Soviet-Afghan War, the Russians fought a Vietnam-style war with 25,000 deaths among ground troops. Russian military doctrine in the 1980s was twenty years behind the lessons the U.S. learned in Vietnam. Like us, they learned the hard way. Since the 1970s the U.S. has moved away from massed ground troops, which were used at Normandy, and in Vietnam, in favor of smaller, more specialized Special Operations Forces. In the present Syrian conflict, Russia has demonstrated its military has replicated the U.S., again, and has caught up with highly mobile Special Operations forces rather than Vietnam-style massed forces which were devastating to them in the 1980s in Afghanistan. They have watched us. They have learned from us. They have caught up. They now feel confident enough to take over management of the global heroin trade, keep it out of the hands of jihadis and Chinese commies, profit from it, and relieve us of this burden that the U.S. taxpayer, media, and Trump don't want anyway. Only the American public needs a little incentive or push to trust Putin, rather than Xi Jinping or the militant Islamic terrorists, with destroying the lives of our children. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 16:29, 30 June 2020 (EDT)

Soleimani paid Iraqi militiamen to kill Americans. The media couldn't have cared less. This is just another Russia hoax, in the same category as "Russia hacked the DNC" or "Trump paid Russian hookers to pee on his bed." PeterKa (talk) 05:49, 1 July 2020 (EDT)

You see where this is going? The next American killed in Afghanistan gets blamed on Trump. "Trump knew!" etc. The warmongers then rally for nuclear war with Russian. This of course redounds to the benefit of the CCP. Better yet, Trump gets blamed for bringing the U.S. to the brink of war with both Russia and China. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 09:47, 1 July 2020 (EDT)

Rob Smith

I realize RobS talks a good game, but if we suddenly need a full-blown article overnight of a crucial person appearing in the news that no one has been able to do for years, can we really depend on him? (possible point of reference: Ghislaine Maxwell. p.s.: Thanks, Rob. And Voter suppression was nice too, if the rest of you noticed who happened to write it [I just proofed comma placement etc.].) VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 00:21, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

Robert Maxwell is by far a more interesting character. And his definitive bio has yet to be written. For example, it's little understood that in the 1980s Maxwell and Rupert Murdoch were in control of two competing global media empires in London. Murdoch won that competition, but Maxwell and his heir Ghislaine could easily have been the founders of their own version of Fox News had they been the victors. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 00:42, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

One observer: "Epstein knew nothing.

Maxwell knows EVERYTHING." Apparently the FBI used a lot of force to make sure she was apprehended. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 23:15, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

Herman Cain

Herman Cain, former Republican U.S. presidential candidate and great American is in the hospital with the Wuhan virus. If you'd like to see updates on his condition, his Twitter account is @THEHermanCain and seems to show he was able to get an early hydroxychloroquine treatment.

His staff sent out a message about his improvement:

"Update: Herman wants to thank everyone for praying for him. It's making a difference. He's still in the hospital but he's making progress and we expect to hear more encouraging news as the week progresses. So thank you, everyone, and keep them coming! God is listening."—July 5, 7:30p (EST)

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 01:18, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

Ennio Morricone

This prolific songwriter died a few hours ago.

He is mentioned here in the Famous artists#Composers article!

He wrote the music for one of the worst liberal songs, "Here's to You":

"The title of the song and its lyrics, performed by leftist folk singer/activist Joan Baez, are a reference to the execution of Sacco and Vanzetti, and was in fact used for the film Sacco e Vanzetti. The song takes the view that the two anarchists were innocent of the crimes they were charged with."—Essay: Worst Liberal Songs

He also wrote the The Good, the Bad and the Ugly movie theme, a 1966 film which starred actor/director Clint Eastwood, who spoke at the 2012 Republican Convention to say "That not everybody in Hollywood is on the left, that Obama has broken a lot of the promises he made when he took office, and that the people should feel free to get rid of any politician who's not doing a good job," he told the surprisingly similarly-named Carmel Pine Cone (I mean it's almost an anagram). VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 06:55, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

(much-less-important) Garden of Popular Conservative Tweeters

Come visit the much-less-important Garden of Popular Conservative Tweeters while you are waiting for the new American monument: The Garden of American Heroes. It's a list of the most popular conservatives who have ever tweeted! Essay:Top conservatives on Twitter.

You'll meet some future conservative heroes while they're not being heroes, but merely tweeting! Who knows? Maybe you'll meet them while they're doing both! It's possible, I suppose. It's the first reopening after the closing due to the Wuhan virus, after which, spend some of your stimulus check at a small business, for heaven's sake! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 07:54, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

I think if people want to wipe out reminders of slavery, segregation & white supremacy we might consider getting rid of the Democratic Party. (August 17, 2017)—Dinesh D'Souza tweet.

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:47, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

My man Terrence K. Williamss (#27 on the list) is ahead of Rush Limbaugh and behind a bunch of conservative mainstays. As Tom Perez said of Ocasio-Cortez, Williams is "the future of the party".

Williams is teaching us how to react to communists. And he does it instinctively. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 08:56, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

Sometimes I know if I react at all to one of the links Rob's left, I'll say something ridiculous. This is one of those times. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 09:06, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

It's a two edged sword...

BLM organizers and media cohorts played a foolish game, trying to hide the ambiguity between the Black Lives Matter slogan and the Black Lives Matter organization. It almost worked for a week or two. Couple that with the media deception of calling rioters "protesters". Now these 20-something liberals are tarred for the rest of their lives with the murders committed by Black Lives Matter, especially the murders of Blacks.

Go ahead now, put that on your resume, that you participated in Black Lives Matter protests or were a Black Lives Matter organizer. They will be tarred for life in the same way SDS's one million members and the smaller WUO are tarred with the Manson Family killings. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:34, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

That's nothin. BREAKING: NYC Islamic Cannibal Arrested!

26-year-old 'cannibal' Khaled Ahmad stabbed & dismembered his dad before EATING him.

In the past 24hrs there has been a shooting in Queens, another in Staten Island, a stabbing & beating with a bat in the Bronx.

Today itself will one day be part of a new kind of "era" where "injustice" that had gathered suddenly broke forth in a flood of everybody joining in hysterical mobs and hysterical eating even though nobody noticed until a path of escalation appeared conveniently timed with the election. Because the young white man that was killed by the police the same day as Floyd didn't count (I almost said matter), the injustice was very apparent, so its no surprise the fact everybody believed justice should be done was actually a trick that justified violence anyway which in turn made the police pull back, and behaving the opposite as expected (until Antifa visited a mayor's gated community) for a while made the nursing home debacle kinda seem...normal!

How does it feel to have today defined by liberal historians again by their unfalsifiable axioms of history (and liberal leadership ability!) where what actually happened is secondary—when it's necessary to mention it at all?

Tomorrow: Return of the New York Twitter nerds! (We'll see what they make it necessary to mention.) VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 13:47, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

I apologize, I got hold of some stale news: the cannibal story broke eleven weeks ago. Sorry! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 21:45, 6 July 2020 (EDT) 23:32, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

That's okay. It has staying power. Now the question is where can we put it? RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 23:58, 6 July 2020 (EDT)

I checked the conservative Twitter threads about New York Monday (July 6). The conservatives are outnumbering the liberal responses in the threads about 9 to 1. This is about average for conservative-originated threads, when it comes to pushback. And yes, they are focused on De Blasio and Cuomo, responding directly to their PR deflections of their...mass killing? What else would you call it?

Much less giving a death-blow to hydroxychloroquine treatments, somebody from New York is being portrayed as having saved them by the liberal media, just when Big Pharma company Gilead Science was poised to benefit from a big PR push to replace it with their $3000 a dose medication.

Why they chose a New York study among many others I suspect is to provide more cognitive dissonance where things are behaving the opposite of what you expect (see above) and have the dissonance stick to you if you had followed and reported the story to the bitter end of the assumption the profit-seeking drug replacement was going to happen and had editorialized about who (in New York) was chiefly to blame for the replacement (that didn't end up happening). VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 00:47, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Hi Vargas, did you see my post on your talk page here? Also, do you have anything to comment on my post below this one? —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 01:07, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, about that... When I said Hickenlooper had "limitless potential" I was only quoting what Homer Simpson said about the Fox sitcom Platypus Man to defend him against your dismissive attack as if I were an unlikely offended fan, trying to be funny. He didn't do too well when he ran for president, and I never thought about him much after that.

Election interference? The only person who could benefit from such a charge would be Donald Trump, and, like Biden, the pollsters could claim ignorance about having directed what some might call a suppression poll. In fact that was the phrase he used last time it happened ("some might call it a suppression poll"), so in addition to opening a can of worms with the media accusing him of not keeping an eye on the ball, he doesn't seem to think it would be worth risking his believability trying to sell it as an unfair targeting of him to the voters. But I think you came up with a rather original idea, regardless. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 03:29, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Prove me wrong when I say:

• Thus far Black Lives Matter protesters have murdered at least 4 Blacks, including 2 children, and shot at least 3 others.

Hmmm? Whattaya gonna do? Fund the police to investigate to prove anyone who admits to being a BLM "protester" is not complicit in a murderous conspiracy? Think you can get the MSM to refute this allegation? The MSM, after all, is the one who labeled rioters as protesters.

5, 10, 20, 30 years from now, anyone who admits to participating in "BLM protests" is confessing to being part of a murderous conspiracy that killed Blacks. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:10, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, Rob, you hit a bull's eye again. The only problem is you do it all the time, so we're kind of used to it! Yes definitely. I was really kind of stunned when what you are saying was reported on MPR. Scary. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 00:25, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

"It’s very much a question, not what are the facts… Today it’s not that important what really happened. It’s more a question of who owns the narrative. And occupying the narrative has created some sort of lopsided ideologies and lopsided information that we see every day." -- Werner Herzog. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 01:40, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

On writing historical narrative

There are two kinds - chronicling or contemporaneous, and after the fact with the benefit of hindsight and analysis, Chronicling can be difficult cause you start out with Obamagate, then get sidetracked with the impeachment sham, then get sidetracked with coronavirus, then get sidetracked with the 2020 Leftist insurrection, then get sidetracked with the 2020 presidential election, then get sidetracked with the PRC and so on.

Here's a great example of trying to remain focused. First we have this local, contemporaneous account from Seattle, dated June 10, 2020 - the origins of CHOP. It didn't get any national exposure cause of other events. Now we have this NYT account of the same event, with video included dated July 2. What is the issue? (A) Defund the Police, which originated with the NYT; (B) Socialist hijacking of the BLM movement (not the BLM organization, which is Marxist from inception); (C) the fact that it is now finally well known, much to the NYT's chagrin, that the BLM is about 98% white, and many if not most Blacks oppose it.

So now the NYT is trying to blame all the violence and murders in CHOP on whites (which maybe true). However this may entail condemning violence, which no true Marxist wants to do. MSM is not ready yet to draw a distinction between "protesters" and "rioters", which the "protesters" themselves are too young, brainwashed, and stupid to understand anyway.

The problem for the writer of historical narrative is, while contemporaneous accounts are the best, they are often cramped and written in shorthand, lacking context. Later accounts may be more detailed, but now a motive for writing appears. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 04:23, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

Ingenious! But how did the whites get from point A to point B? Was the strange page of instructions I posted a real part of it or is that a red herring? Around the same time I also saw a flyer advertising for political protesters at $15/hour. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 08:34, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

Foreign election interference?

About this poll that I just finished refuting in this essay, it seems that the polling company is located in the UK, as it admits here. Since it's obvious that the poll is fake with its left-leaning sample and absurd conclusions to promote the idea that Republicans are trailing Democrats in key elections such as the 2020 Arizona Senate race, the real question is whether this is foreign election interference. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 00:18, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

NFL

I'm surprised no one here's said anything about the NFL wanting to play TWO national anthems and planning to allow players to put social justice protest slogans on the back of their uniforms instead of their names. This accommodation to politics so precisely caters to current aggressive liberal agendas and their thought-diverting manoeuvres, it's almost a caricature, and through its actions, vindicates everything Andy Schlafly's ever said to warn people about the self-serving vanity in the organization that's now reached its full expression, much to the detriment of the shared union of efforts in the goings-on elsewhere in the country. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 07:05, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

NFL = Not For Long. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 09:39, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Stating the obvious

I'm beginning to think it's become an open secret, so I'll say it for the first time at Conservapedia (I looked with the search function): "social justice" has not only shifted in meaning from its religious roots as shown in the Social Justice Conservapedia article; and not just a prefered avenue by many for seeking justice because it includes social activism and its high public profile; it's become code for what is really "social revenge" for all sorts of sufferings whether self-inflicted or not (that is, based on a sense of moral supremacy). VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 07:05, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Harvard, Yale, etc.

Aren't online social science classes, as demanded by these institutions SO much better than live attendance with that pesky need for collegiality? I'm sure those with dissenting opinions hardly feel isolated with that sort of arrangement in the least! VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 07:33, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

The science of police shootings

Fully one third or 34% of all police victims of shooting deaths are killed by blacks, who make up 13% of the population. The remainder are killed by everyone else, white, Hispanic, Asian, Pacific Islander, etc. This is a scientific fact taught in the police academy. *We have not even adjusted the figures for black males, who constitute only 6.5% of the population. All police, Black officers included, understand when they pull over a car and approach the vehicle, the likelihood of them being killed is 200% greater than dealing with anyone else. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 10:03, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

If the BLM supporters only knew the science (and BLM's politics)! VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 02:07, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

The Great White Defendant

This is an idea on Twitter that I could try to paint you a scenario for, but there's a lot of variables that, even if a solid idea, would cause it to manifest itself in widely different characteristics anyway. So no drama in the description.

The idea is to escalate racial animosity, advancing BLM/liberal media-followers propaganda and terminology introduced through gas-lighting (like "systemic racism"), against whites using Twitter [and other social media] in hopes of getting a young white man (like Dylann Roof) to plan and carry out a hate crime and create a media circus. "The great white defendant" isn't my name for the scheme; it's discussed enough that that's a name people have settled on.

Some have been surprised by what they think they see as this kind of escalation on Twitter [and I assume elsewhere], but others said they stongly doubt it would work, since internet keyboard warriors don't commit violent crimes (with the New Zealand attacks being a rare exception). I won't discuss the counter-strategies that might be used against it, either, though I'm sure if you were interested, you could do a Twitter search and learn about them. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 07:09, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

Okay, I see where this comes from and how it can be used. It also implies that rioters, vandals, and killers are advocates of justice.

I like Walter E. Williams definition of slavery: "Slavery is immoral cause it impinges on property rights." RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:57, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

Tammy Duckworth versus Tucker Carlson (or is it George Washington?)

Joe Biden's mental abilities are only going to decline. Thus it is vital to find a running mate who is even dumber than Biden is so that 25th Amendment can't be used against him. That won't be easy. At this point, Illinois Senator Tammy Duckworth is the hot ticket. She reacted to Trump's Fourth of July speech by calling on the president to stop praising the Mount Rushmore "traitors." Somehow, she has gotten the idea that at least one of the faces on Rushmore is a Confederate. In other words, she is an idiot.

For good measure, Duckworth added that there should "be a conversation" about taking Washington's statue down: "Tucker Carlson Slams Tammy Duckworth for Wanting to Take Down George Washington Statues and She Runs for Cover Behind Her Military Service." Lately, she is running on the platform of "Tucker Carlson was mean to me." Hey, who wouldn't want to see a Duckworth/Carlson smackdown? But it turns out that she won't appear on Carlson's show unless he apologizes first. What a spoiled brat. Imagine if Teddy Roosevelt had the same attitude: "I won't charge up San Juan Hill unless those mean Spanish apologize first!" PeterKa (talk) 21:24, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

The strange thing is that Sen. Duckworth had withstood harsh casualties while serving in the military, yet she currently can't stand the fact that Tucker Carlson was mean towards her. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 22:42, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

If Duckworth really expects Carlson to apologize to her for him telling her the truth (which she probably won't accept anyway, for the sheer sake of spite) to get her to appear on his show (all while she uses her military background and combat-related disability as shields against criticism of her positions and her outlandish demands), then even money says we won't be seeing her there at all. A real shame (</sarc>). Northwest (talk) 06:03, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

Identity politics. It's all an effort to rally Native Americans to the base. It won't make a difference in California, Alaska, or New Mexico where they're the strongest. Or even Idaho and South Dakota which are red states. And Dems aren't doing so good among blacks and Hispanics.

Identity politics isn't doing so good (except among gays ans transgenders, which actually is driving Blacks and Hispanics away). Voter fraud is their only hope. That's why they are laying out feelers already accusing Trump of voter fraud, cause they know now already the result will be contested. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 06:42, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump in 2024? Trump political dynasty? Why relying on a political savior is a big mistake

I am guessing that if the COVID-19 crisis and its attendant economic damage sinks Trump's reelection, Trump or his son will run in 2024. Biden with his cognitive issues will probably be a train wreck if elected so Trump or his son could win in 2024. But I am guessing that the 2020 presidential debates will sink Biden's candidacy due to his cognitive decline issues. There are some who point out that Biden did not do too bad in the Democratic debates, but the Democratic debates were rather tame and had a lot of groupthink. Trump will be more of a brawler and Trump has more debating experience now plus has more of a record to run on. The Democrats and the press have thrown a lot at Trump, but he is still has a chance to win in 2020. He kind of reminds me of the Rocky films because Trump takes a lot of blows, but keeps on swinging. If I were one of Biden's debate handlers, I would tell Biden, "Don't go for the knockout. Stick and move. Stay away from him!".

The USA is not handling the COVID-19 well. The USA is rated the 4rth worse in the world in terms of deaths per 100,000 people due to COVID-19 deaths. The UK is the worst. See: https://www.statista.com/chart/21170/coronavirus-death-rate-worldwide/ and https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality The Covid-19 crisis could sink Trump's chances in 2020.

For a variety of reasons, I can't see Trump going away after he leaves the White House. And the Trumps could be a political dynasty like the Bush/Kennedy clans.

I am not looking for a political savior. I think generating wealth and wealth protection strategies (gold and other economic recession/depression strategies) are far better. Wealth gives many options. In the developed world, the baby boomers and their progeny are a train wreck in terms of political leadership. I have decided to not follow politics closely.

In the developed world, it appears as if Switzerland and New Zealand are handling their economies the best. Many of the others are buried in government debt. I am sad to say this, but putting all your eggs in the living in the USA basket doesn't seem to be a prudent strategy.

The USA has a lot of government debt and it has strong political polarization and racial politics problems. Due to the Chinese and their newfound aggressiveness, I think Switzerland is a better safe haven than NZ for people who have money and want to emigrate to a developed country (But China will probably leave NZ alone and my guess is that NZ will follow an appeasement strategy and not criticize human rights violations in China too much). On the other hand, if you have money, there are lot of options as far as civilized countries to emigrate to (I don't think I would want to emigrate to North Korea or Somalia!).

On the positive side, the USA has a lot of dynamism and adaption built in due to the wisdom of the founding fathers and other factors. I wouldn't count the USA out in the foreseeable future if Jesus should tarry.Conservative (talk) 06:23, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

Nicki Haley and Dan Crenshaw are the next strongest GOP candidates. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 07:05, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

In about 10-12 years, I think the national debt (And internal bickering and blame gaming) is going to cause big problems in the USA and the inadequacies of USA politics are going to be very apparent. I am not going to follow USA politics very closely. There is too much immaturity and denialism amongst the political class for me to want to closely watch this depressing, slow motion train wreck.

A USA/world economic depression is likely to happen in about 10-12 years. Maybe the USA will dust itself off and sober up after this happens. Conservative (talk) 07:33, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

I just looked at the list of countries by external debate as a percentage of GNP (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt). Even Switzerland and New Zealand are mismanaged economically. I wouldn't put all my eggs in any countries basket.

When you look at a countries which are civilized, not super oppressive and are not buried in debt, maybe the Philippines are the best bet. And that says a lot given the all the political assassinations and political corruption in the Philippines. The world's politicians are not very good right now.Conservative (talk) 08:04, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

I am guessing Trump will win again! Trump has a solid 45-46% base and is a master salesman, whose active campaign will lock into place as soon as the Democratic Convention is over. And Trump has moles in Biden's campaign as part of his personal intelligence service. Some of you have lost your fighting spirit since none of you said, "No, Conservative, no! Read VargasMilan's evidence first (which hasn't even been archived yet), and then make assumptions! Don't ignore it!"

How sure am I that Trump will win? After reading Conservative's guess, I just bought a futures contract of $850 worth of shares of Trump at the going rate of 41¢ a share (worth $1 each if he wins)! I ~dare~ anyone to match that amount! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 11:12, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

RobS: Both Haley and Crenshaw are bad on immigration. That one issue would matter a lot. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 11:14, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

Conservative, the U.S. fatalities are exaggerated 50% (I mentioned this earlier: The U.S. government's disease reporting service has figured it's as expensive for a hospital to deal with the Wuhan virus with other diseases, as it is for it to deal with the disease alone, so to save time, they're allowed to report both as Wuhan virus fatalities [for government hospital compensation {aid} purposes]. Someone I know said it's only 10% due to unreported cases, but I disagree). VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 11:38, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

I agree with Vargas on Haley and Crenshaw. While Nikki Haley is arguably a movement conservative, she has some neocon leanings. Rep. Crenshaw would be a bad choice when it comes to the 2nd amendment. I think that Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, or Michele Bachmann would be great potential picks for the 2024 presidential election; Sen. Paul is an advocate for term limits, and since he's currently in his second term, he probably won't run for re-election in 2022. Cruz is also a staunch conservative, and Bachmann would be great on fiscal issues (as well as hilariously creeping out liberals). —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 12:12, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

The GOP establishment is just waiting out Trump. And Trump doesn't really have a visible successor. Anointed successors rarely do good (GHW Bush, Gore, Biden for only a few examples). Haley's probably the best positioned.

The global depression is here now. U.S. unemployment is 33%. 1.25 million first time claims were made just this week. The facts are, defunding police is really caused by the covid lockdowns, economic contractions, and loss of tax revenue to local governments. But the commie lib media will give BLM the credit as if it's a victory. —unsigned edit by RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 12:35, 9 July 2020 (EDT)

Disemployment from time of pre-Wuhan virus fatalities

Feb 29, 2020: 158.8 million employed

Mar 31, 2020: 155.8 million -01.9%

Apr 30, 2020: 133.4 million -16.0%

May 31, 2020: 137.2 million -13.6%

Jun 30, 2020: 142.2 million -10.4%; 16.6 million less employed than Feb 2020 economy

June unemployment rate: 11.1%

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 11:17, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

The 11% rate people are beginning to refer to as the "Household survey" rather than the "Unemployment rate", which only politicians running for re-election use or the liberal media in support of Democrats. Investors ignore it. As far as government number crunchers go, the Worker participation rate is more valuable.

Anyways, there are new indicators that will probably take a few years to fully develop, quantify, and index that are based upon phone data usage to gauge unemployment and other things. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 12:05, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

That's strange. They'd better separate out the teens, who phone more when they're not running a business! If you go by the labor force sizes I listed where the end of February is called full employment, it shows the employed are 10.4% below that at the end of June. But I know you think the labor force size is different from what is stated. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 12:30, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

The workforce participation rate and Unemployment rate count people who have been looking for work in the past 30 days (according to the Household survey). That presumably leaves out rioters and protesters who have found off-the-books employment in looting.

Two very recent examples of using phone data: (1) the number of cancelled accounts in Wuhan to count covid deaths; (2) Larry Kudlow in one of Trump's recent roundtable conferences whipped out his phone and cited some figure related to (I think) Uber usage or something as an indicator of an uptick in activity. I haven't had the time to look more into what he was talking about. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 14:47, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

IOWs, phone data usage eventually will give us a much better real time indicator of economic activity, better than daily stock averages, 30 day old household surveys, surveys of purchasing managers, etc.. Consumer Confidence and Business Confidence are the best indicators - that simply needs to be tweaked to aggregate real time cash transfers, which the federal reserve has, and made more widely available. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 15:00, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

And all these problems have taken the focus off the CCP's grip on China, which to an outsider looks as if it's coming to a head. They are in Round 2 of covid, plus, a new strain of covid spreading all over the country, plus a Bubonic plague outbreak, plus a failed dam site which is killing thousands in floods. The Politburo Standing Committee has fled Beijing, which is welding apartment gates shut. At moments of domestic upheaval and crisis with its back against the wall, the CCP may make a move to provoke an international military conflict.

China's economy has crashed worse than the U.S., and under CCP leadership is likely to never recover. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q}

Terrible! And the American public doesn't give a dam! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:49, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Seriously though, China told their people to prepare for war, but that story was dropped like a hot potato. I am in favor of ignoring China as a response if they bluster threats as political strategy, but on the other hand I wish I knew how far they are taking this, the key question being: Are they actually mobilizing? In modern times, that's practically a declaration of war. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:55, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

If you listen to India media, the war is on, and India is taking the lead in forging an alliance (the U.S., India, Australia, Japan, and South Korea). RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 08:30, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Here's what India's media is saying just minutes ago. It's hard to dispute. As Europe loses relevance, India and Australia become dominant players in global politics. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:48, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

I think President Trump has done a fantastic job. He has been great on federal judges, delivering over 200 pro-life, conservative young judges, and 2 Supreme Court Justices - all in a single term. Hardly 3 1/2 years or 42 months have already passed and he has done this much. If President Trump gets one more term, Roe v Wade will surely be overturned. That's why I fully support President Trump. But President Trump has been very good for other things as well, such as the economy. An astonishing, unprecedented, 5 million jobs were added this July. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/jobs-report-june-2020.html Give President Trump three more months. HE will bring unemployment low again, in the very low single digits, as this rate continues.

President Trump reminds me of Biblical figures like King David and King Cyrus, or those Christian Kings who did much for the Christian Faith, like King Constantine or King Charlemagne. It is very important, and Biblical, that Jesus Christ our King reign over us as divine King over all human kings. Hence, when a President is doing God's Will on moral issues like pro-life matters, and promoting Jesus as King, we should support him. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:37, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Constantine was not a king! With rare exceptions, the Romans hated kings, because their beloved republic grew out of the defeat of kings! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:28, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Jesus Christ must become your personal King and Savior first, then you can evangelize. And it doesn't happen just cause you were baptized at birth. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:57, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Jesus Christ is my Personal King, my Lord God, and only Savior, thanks. IS He yours? Would you also vote, if you could, to recognize Him officially as the King of your country if such an option were on the ballot? The main problem among liberal Christians today (and many who think they are conservative are actually liberal on this matter) and why liberalism is so strong even in the so-called Christian countries, and Christian countries have supported things from legal abortion to legal pornography to so much else for about 50 years is because even many Christians do not want to recognize Jesus Christ as King of kings, i.e. King of the State and of the world, King over Presidents and Lord over Governors. That is what must change. Personal Savior, yes. But also national Savior. The two go together and are not opposed to each other. Once 50% of a nation have acknowledged Christ the King of their lives, they must strive to make Him King of their nation too, so that nothing opposed to His reign may be legislated. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:31, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

• My kingdom is not of this world.

RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 01:42, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

• Cons: The U.S. has the seventh highest covid mortality rate, as you can see here. The four hardest hit countries are Belgium, Britain, Spain, and Italy. PeterKa (talk) 01:47, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Three things:

1. I looked at the coronavirus deaths per million data. One interesting thing I found is that Belgium/UK/Spain/Italy/Sweden/France were all globalist/colonialist powers/leaning and/or having perhaps strong economic ties with China and/or having a lot of immigration (The USA/China economies are interlinked, but delinking is happening). UK probably had close ties to Hong Kong/China. Italy had close ties to China and the Chinese Belt and Road initiative. Sweden was the first Western country to establish official diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China, on 9 May 1950.[1] Belgium: The bilateral relationship has increased with economic trade between the two countries. Belgium has a pavilion in the Shanghai Expo 2010. The trade between the two countries in 2013 came to a value of EUR20.2 billion. China is Belgium's sixth biggest trading partner which makes up 4.1% of Belgium's trade. The trade between the two countries in 2008 exceeded 20 billion and growing on average 20% every year.[2] Spain: While most cargoes are shipped between China and Europe (including Spain) by sea, there are direct container trains running from Yiwu (Zhejiang Province) to Madrid as well.[3]

Dr. Fauci said in one of his public meetings that controlling borders in terms of coronavirus being brought into a nation is important.

2. Trump is bouncing back. NEW POLLS After BLM Riots and Mount Rushmore Speech Show COMING TRUMP LANDSLIDE!!!.

I got a free trail subscription to watch various documentaries. I didn't realize how many close calls in terms of terrorist attacks have happened. One of the things I favor about Trump's public policy is his restricting immigration from terrorism related nations.

3. Although the presidential debates might be a very significant factor in the elections, there are a lot of moving parts (many important issues/factors) so calling this election is tough to call. It seems to me that American voters are fickle and "what have you done for me lately" is very important.Conservative (talk) 05:44, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Elissa Slotkin seems to understand the lesson Democrats should've learned after 2016

Breaking: Elissa Slotkin, the establishment "centrist" Democrat hack who betrayed fellow colleagues while in the Middle East and who currently represents Michigan's 8th congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives, is now warning about the fake "polls" under-estimating support for Trump. Maybe this should be put on MPR? —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 18:01, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

How would you phrase it? Democrat Elissa Slotkin warns of polls underestimating Trump support?

Also what about this for MPR: Judge Sullivan requests en banc hearing. [4]

RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 23:24, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

How about "Democrat representative Elissa Slotkin understands what the rest of her party won't admit: that the "polling" for the 2020 elections are unreliable, fake, and left-leaning." Also, about the second part, I might not be entirely caught up on the whole Michael Flynn/Sidney Powell/Emmett Sullivan situation, so I suppose you should make the call on that. Thanks RobSmith! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 23:39, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Mines parody. I got the idea from here. [5] Judge Sullivan is going to get squashed if it goes to en banc. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 23:42, 10 July 2020 (EDT)

Hmm, seems pretty cool. And thank you for posting my proposal on MPR! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 00:25, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

How many Americans exactly are out of work as of July

I've heard the 11% number, however what is the baseline? Is it 160 million. So some 17.6 million are unemployed, is that it? May added 2.5 million jobs, and in June another 5 million was added under President Trump. If 5 million holds steady, it should be just another 3 months or so. Whether or not that will happen remains to be seen; but I believe things will start to seem very much better just around October or November - right in time, Providentially, for the election. A good economy always favors the incumbent, even as a bad economy favors the opponent. Let us pray, wait and watch! NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:28, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, that reminds me, what exactly caused that spike of unemployment in July anyway? I know this first week, staff shortages at my local Good Will of North Georgia store were so bad that I had to do greeting people and cleaning carts two out of my three days of work just to compensate (my normal job was scanning and tagging books, as well as putting them on the shelves), and the nearby Huey Luey apparently was closed down on Monday and apparently Friday due to staff shortages. One of my local co-workers indicated people just didn't feel like continuing to work at Good Will, but that doesn't explain why at least two businesses had an unexpected decrease in staff. Pokeria1 (talk) 07:59, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Pokeria, most restaurants belong to one large sector of small business enterprises, and 80% of restaurant owners polled said they were struggling to make payments. It's no wonder small businesses belonging to other sectors too (or links in large business chains) are starting to lay off people.

I used to get pizzas at a chain restaurant for cheap, before I went long on the U.S recovery during the confusion of when the housing bubble burst, and when Obama was elected. I knew two things:

1. Obama was a throwback to uncritical liberalism, and he was positioning himself in the ideological center of the Democratic Party, so he could play the long game to enable him to drift leftwards publicly and use the economy, if it recovered, as a springboard to liberal programs.
2. Once struggling banks are given a summary audit, a credit crisis that comes with a recession can be cured as soon as overnight by the government merely by promising to guarantee a bank's current loans, which can stop a domino effect that worsens the wounds of other sectors of the economy.

Now that I have more money, I'd like to buy more expensive pizza (with more than one topping) at the exact same restaurant. So eating pizza will be my way of helping the economy. I realize that's an onerous task, but mind that during this time, we all need to make sacrifices. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 11:59, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Just so we're clear, when I said "Friday", I actually meant the Friday before yesterday, while Monday was this week's Monday, aka, July 6. Huey Luey definitely reopened by the 7th, though. But it was still fairly odd, especially when the week before and the days before then, it was still booming regarding business. And it's not just restaurants, though. The Goodwill that I worked at also had a pretty sharp decrease of staff on Monday and Friday of this week for some reason. If we don't get a handle on it, I fear that Goodwill will reduce its hours again, and if it continues to get worse, we may even end up having to close the store again. Pokeria1 (talk) 12:03, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump and the U.S. national debt

Conservative is predicting a depression in the U.S. because of its debt problems. Trump didn't do much to help; he signed legislation increasing debt by 3 trillion dollars and counting.

What complicates this is the possibility of the U.S. reneging on China's debt as a form of carrying out reparations for ourselves, but I think Trump will go to work on the debt if he is re-elected.

There's an ancient Chinese oracle that may address the hesitant form of Trump's behavior that some people complain about:

"To be powerful in the cheekbones

Brings misfortune.

The superior man is firmly resolved.

He walks alone and is caught in the rain.

He is bespattered,

And people murmur against him.

No blame."

German Chinese scholar Richard Wilhelm, translated to English, summarizes the medieval interpretation of this mysterious counsel:

"Here we have a man in an ambiguous situation. While all others are engaged in a resolute fight against all that is inferior, he alone has a certain relationship with an inferior man. If he were to show strength outwardly and turn against this man before the time is ripe, he would only endanger the entire situation, because the inferior man would too quickly have recourse to countermeasures.

"The task of the superior man becomes very difficult here. He must be firmly resolved within himself and, while maintaining association with the inferior man, avoid any participation in his vileness. He will of course be misjudged. It will be thought that he belongs to the party of the inferior man. He will be lonely because no one will understand him. His relations with the inferior man will sully him in the eyes of the multitude, and they will turn against him, grumbling. But he can endure this lack of appreciation and makes no mistake, because he remains true to himself."

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 06:29, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Biden bows down, July 9, 2020

We're at the crossroads; here's three possible scenarios:

• the CCP collapses and trade relations are restored;
• the CCP survives, American manufacturing continues to grow, PRC sinks into a deep depression isolated from the world;
• the CCP launches a global conflict.

RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:56, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

The CCP appears to be more adaptable and tougher than the Soviets. The CCP looked at how Soviet communism collapsed and seems determined not to make some the same mistakes.

One thing that Trump, the CCP and the Russians have in common is they are all fighters. It is dangerous to underestimate them.

I hope the CCP collapses, but many have predicted the collapse of the CCP and have been wrong. The imminent collapse of Donald Trump is also been forecasted many times and put a lot of egg on people's faces.Conservative (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

The CCP has staked a lot on collapsing Trump, along with their BLM, MSM, and Silicon Valley allies.

While allowing a corrupt regime to collapse internally requires patience (viz. USSR, PRC, DPRK), it still has major consequences externally. For example, if the the people of China stormed the Forbidden City tomorrow, overthrew the CCP and established a democracy, the West and the rest would be in the position of giving them a helping hand, like Marshall Plan, to jump start their economy. That of course would destroy Maganomics. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 20:00, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

The "Forbidden City" is the imperial palace. The Communist party is in Zhongnanhai, the former imperial garden. PeterKa (talk) 07:24, 13 July 2020 (EDT)

Funny you should mention the Marshall Plan, because the guy who made it, George Marshall, was one of the reasons why China's now a Communist country in the first place (at least, according to The New American). Pokeria1 (talk) 07:35, 13 July 2020 (EDT)

The identity of the overweight

Swelled-Out Sweden, The Fat France community, Spanned Out Spain, Girthy Germany are the just some of the familiar names of Europe's overweight identity groups that everyone knows about, but what you might not know is that they've just gone intersectional and joined under the umbrella (and boy that must be a large umbrella!) of a head fat identity group directed by an international organization.

Not very long ago, the Washington Post adopted a social justice motto: "Democracy dies in darkness". The sad sacks at The Washington Post may think that's a good slogan, but it's all wrong: the key is oversensitivity. Thanks to everyone giving the right-of-way to those who have suffered the most (whether self-inflicted or not), everyone will think that the problems of those one or two fat identity groups represented by the persons who arrived first in the intersection for having vocalized the worst grievances, really exist throughout them. And the problems are, by extension, potentially true of every such fat identity group and within the category of "what could happen to anyone", causing people to forget how they saw them fill their mouths and gobble down huge amounts of potato chips, ice cream and chocolate layered cake.

"We don't want to look like fascists, but I don't apologize for not doing this sooner", one officer told us while munching on store-bought cookies, on condition of his speaking anonymously. "Before the costs of long-distance calling dropped, we sort of had a captive audience in our respective countries. But now, international is the way to go." It remains to be seen if the "fat grievance" movement collides with the "fat acceptance" movement, but a thinking person might notice they've got two references to the seven stages of grief to be put to use right there, and obesity is almost as tragic, too!

Will they speak of persecution by thinness and once again be a liberal group that hitches their star to the civil rights movement meant for blacks? Or will the intersectional claptrap finally be exposed, by a simple examination of their now-multilingual self-proclaimed pain Phds, mainly about politically-convenient timing. Or whether the cosmopolitan merger produced (outside of economies of scale) anything worthwhile or licit minus costs to those outside the group by means of their unexamined grievances (except undue attention, which is worthwhile but not licit) for that matter? Such is the sad plight of the vagaries of the fat identity movement, that, to paraphrase Oscar Wilde, it would take a heart of stone to ponder it and not burst out laughing.

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 21:02, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

I created the world's most popular article on atheism and obesity.

Recently, some atheist complained to me about the article, but I presented some weighty evidence on the relevance/validity of the article. Then the atheists got hopping mad at me. Like horse throwing mad at me. The truth hurts!Conservative (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

They're not very laid back, are they? VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:26, 13 July 2020 (EDT)

Roger Stone gets clemency

Andrew Weissmann called Peter Ka's report a "baseless attack".

The media's outrage du jour is that President Trump granted clemency to Roger Stone for lies told to Congress. But is it not relevant that Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who referred Stone's case to the Department of Justice, lied and perjured himself more seriously than Stone did? Mueller lied to Congress about Iraqi WMD back when he was FBI director. When he didn't feel like answering a question about his report, he would cite a nonexistent "purview." He told the congressional committee this transparent lie over 200 times.

What about when Mueller testified that his investigation was "nonpartisan"? Judicial Watch has documented that every major decision of the special counsel's office was made by Andrew Weissmann, a notoriously partisan Clinton lawyer. The report itself says that the investigation "did not exonerate" Trump. To include a statement of this type in an official report is unprecedented and it goes against DOJ procedure. That's pretty good evidence of partisanship right there. There is a tradition of appointing a special counsel from the opposite party as the president. So there is not necessarily anything wrong with a partisan investigation. But I don't think there is any question that Mueller lied when he claimed that his investigation was not partisan.

The indictment against Stone claimed he had advance knowledge of the Clinton emails Wikileaks would release. There is no proof that Stone actually had insider knowledge, and so what if he did? Barr, the relevant cabinet officer, reportedly did not approve of the grant of clemency to Stone. When it comes to dealing with matters and people close to himself, a president should not rely solely on his own judgement. But to me, the larger issue is that the case against Stone was driven by Hillary's vindictiveness and conspiratorial thinking.[6] PeterKa (talk) 07:05, 12 July 2020 (EDT)

Here is a better example of Mueller telling a lie that Stone could never have gotten away with: Mueller testified that he was not seeking the FBI director job when he met Trump in May 2017. But of course he was. See here. Not only that, but Mueller already knew at this time that if Trump did not appointed him director, he was likely to get the special counsel job. So when Rosenstien wrote his memo arguing that Comey needed to be fired for defaming Hillary in the email investigation, he was already thinking in terms of how to create a vacancy for Mueller.

Although the constitution does not grant Joe Biden the power of clemency, prosecutors seem to understand that he has it all the same. Here is the invaluable New York Post: "Joe Biden’s family racks up arrests for drugs, drunk driving — but no jail time." PeterKa (talk) 20:34, 12 July 2020 (EDT)

It has now been revealed that not only did Comey's FBI lie to the FISA court, the Mueller team did as well. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 13:29, 13 July 2020 (EDT)

I found this news story from 2016: "Bill Clinton Pardoned His Brother in Huge Cocaine Conspiracy — Now He’s In Jail Again." That wasn't even considered a major scandal at the time, just Clinton being Clinton. PeterKa (talk) 00:02, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

McSally primary challenger

According to this post from the conservative blog SRAZ, Sen. Martha McSally's primary challenger Daniel McCarthy is apparently using his campaign slogan on the ballot for the upcoming August primary election. And won't you believe it, this is being allowed by the Arizona Democrat Secretary of State Katie Hobbs. If one goes here, refers to the link on the right that says "2020 Primary Election Candidates", clicks on it, and clicks on "Federal" on the left side, there's this page that confirms such. The only question is: why such would even be allowed, and especially by a Democrat Secretary of State? "Demand Daniel" is a slogan, not part of McCarthy's real name. If this is legal, then I suppose every conservative Republican in office who is running for re-election should file to have "Liberal Tears" as part of their names on the official ballots (for both the primaries and general elections, of course). —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 23:37, 12 July 2020 (EDT)

Hi Liberal Tears. On a scale of 100%, how likely would you rate Senator Martha McSally's chances of (1) winning the primary, and (2) winning re-election? I actually don't know as much about it as you do. Would you say maybe 60-40% each time? NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:58, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

Thanks for replying to this post! Now I dunno about giving an exact rating of the chances of winning/losing the primary, as there firstly has been no polling (yet) (at least from what I know) on the primary between McSally and McCarthy. There definitely will be Republican voters turning out for McSally in the primary, and the important thing to keep in mind is that the McCarthy voters will likely be more enthused to turn out (since they are energized to vote against Sen. McSally), which will make everything interesting. Since all the fake polling (including the fake ones) do concur that McSally has at least 70% of Republicans are willing to vote for her in the general election, that's most likely good news for the primary, as the "Demand Daniel" group consists of those who strongly disapprove of McSally. And if she wins the primary, then the chances of winning re-election following such would mostly depend on Trump, enthusiasm, and voter turnout. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 01:14, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

President Trump saving Pro-Life Conservative Judge Amy Barrett to be Ginsburg's replacement!!

From: "As he was deliberating last year over replacing Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, President Trump told confidants he had big plans for Judge Amy Coney Barrett.

"I'm saving her for Ginsburg," Trump said of Barrett, according to three sources familiar with the president's private comments. Trump used that exact line with a number of people, including in a private conversation with an adviser two days before announcing Brett Kavanaugh's nomination.

Barrett is a favorite among conservative activists, many of whom wanted her to take Kennedy’s spot." https://www.axios.com/supreme-court-trump-judge-amy-barrett-ruth-bader-ginsburg-11d25276-a92e-4094-8958-eb2d197707c8.html—unsigned edit by NishantXavier (talk) 07:11, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

William H. Pryor would also be a great pick for Supreme Court. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 17:35, 15 July 2020 (EDT)

Bill Pryor is one of my favorites too! He would be great to replace Stephen Breyer! Pryor once called Roe v Wade an abomination. Just imagine if we get two 2 Supreme Court Vacancies next term, and Barrett and Pryor replacing Ginsburg and Breyer! Conservatives will never lose another Supreme Court case! NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:43, 15 July 2020 (EDT)

Hmm, interesting; come to think of it, Breyer could retire and be replaced soon. It seems that right now, in regards to the current makeup of the Supreme Court, there firstly are the two most liberal justices (Sotomayor and Ginsburg) and two most conservative justices (Thomas and Alito). Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are mostly conservative, both having certain questionable aspects in regards to their records; as demonstrated with the ruling on transgenderism a month ago, Gorsuch may be more of a moderate overall. In regards to Kavanaugh, the fact that the pro-abortion Susan Collins seemed eager enough to support and vote to confirm him could potentially mean some suspicions. In fact, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh recently joined the liberal wing in ruling against Trump over tax returns. However, the good news is that Breyer and Kagan may not be that bad; they recently were part of a 7-2 majority that ruled in favor of the Little Sisters of the Poor over the Obamacare mandates. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 18:01, 15 July 2020 (EDT)

Yes, Liberal Tears, that's what makes it so interesting. Both Breyer and Ginsburg are near the retirement age for Justices. They will almost certainly be replaced in the next Presidential Term. That's what makes President Trump winning so essential this time, so he will appoint the next 2 Judges. After the election, it would be great to have a project on each of the 21 odd Supreme Court possible nominees that President Trump has named (he will be naming more in September, I believe, he has said) and their respective strengths and weakness. For myself, I'm thoroughly sold already on Barrett and Pryor being the best of the best in President Trump's first list; but we can do more research in that area, and let's see what the second set of Judges looks like. the Supreme Court is probably the single most important issue and the President's power of appointing judges a very important power. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:32, 15 July 2020 (EDT)

Stunning Conservative Victory in Poland! Prayer Power!! Polish President Duda wins his re-election

Can we put up this news on the Main Page? A Stunning Victory that has amazed critics and silenced leftists.

"After re-election victory, Polish President Duda visits Jasna Gora Marian shrine to thank Mother Mary

On Monday, Polish President Andrzej Duda visited the Jasna Gora Marian shrine to thank Mother Mary for his victory in re-election.

Duda won the Polish presidential election, gaining 51.2% of the votes. His opponent, Warsaw Mayor Rafal Trzaskowski got 48.8%, revealed the National Electoral Commission on Monday.

Duda entrusted the nation to the Virgin Mary at the shrine.

“The Holy Mother would always look after our Homeland! - I sit here as a pilgrim, it is a holy and important place for me, here I feel spiritual support,” Duda said. https://www.shalomworld.org/news/after-re-election-victory-polish-president-duda-visits-jasna-gora-marian-shrine-to-thank-mother-mary—Unsigned edit by NishantXavier (talk) 12:38, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

Another election analysis

Alright, so I just created this essay analyzing a CBS/YouGov poll; does anyone else think this is worthy of being put on MPR? —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 18:41, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

It's still about Arizona polling. That previous one got 600 hits. Can this one be appended to the old one, rather than divide the response? What if you reversed the information on that page and posted the latest data on top, creating a contemporaneous report.

You can still keep this new page as stand alone, but to build hits from MPR and other pages (U.S. Senate elections 2020, and the bio pages on McSally and Kelly) consolidate all the traffic to one main Essay page. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 19:07, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

I decided to transfer the information from the two most recent analyses to this one, since it had the most views. Do you suppose you could now move Essay:An analysis of a misleading poll to "Essay:A list of Arizona election analyses" and delete this page, this one, and this one, seeing as I just moved the content over to the former? Thank you RobSmith! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 21:11, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

Here's two other ideas to consider: you could keep the two pages with 600 hits as subpages and use the {{See also|template}}. As to a Move, it could be retitled to a more generic Essay: Analysis of misleading polls which could be used over and over again for years, by just rotating out old information to re-titled subpages and updating with info from the 2022 and 2024 elections while preserving the hit count. Let me know what you think and I'll do whatever you decide. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 21:54, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

Alright, I took your second suggestion, so I suppose I'll keep the second essay, which is quite long (not to mention the calculations). In that case, I'd say only this page ought to be deleted, and Essay:An analysis of a misleading poll can be moved to Essay:Analyses of misleading polls. Thanks! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 22:12, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

I saw that you deleted and moved the pages as I requested. Thank you very much, RobSmith! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well!} 00:46, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

2020 Presidential election race: Trump vs. Biden

Unless Trump gets way more turnout than Biden, he could lose the election. I don't think he is handling the coronavirus pandemic well at this point. Who has indoor political rallies in the middle of a pandemic? It's foolish. Personally, I think Trump is being selfish and his rallies show he is willing to use people as political canon fodder. His previous reluctance to wearing a mask was unwise too. But to be fair, American leftists used the BLK protestors (anti-police brutality protestors) as political canon fodder during the pandemic too.

How Trump handles the coronavirus is probably going to decide the election. I suppose its possible that people's favorability on him handling the economy could make the difference, but I think the coronavirus issue is going to be a stronger issue.

If Biden wins, it will be due to the election being a referendum on Trump and hatred/dislike of Trump. It will not be due to voter enthusiasm for Biden. Often in politics, hatred can motivate people more than love, so who knows how this election is going to turn out.Conservative (talk) 21:30, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

The state of the economy could eclipse covid. Pay attention Ocasio-Cortez's hate speech on this issue. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 21:54, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

The new Florida Wuhan Virus cases were falsified; the pandemic is over. The new cases are mostly from Mexican nationals illegally crossing the border. July 15: CDC reports Wuhan virus mortality below pandemic threshold. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:37, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

VargasMilan, denial (DeNile) is not a river in Egypt. Pretending the pandemic is over is not the same as it being over.

“Lying to ourselves is more deeply ingrained than lying to others.” ― Fyodor Dostoevsky

“Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.” ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

“We all practice self-deception to a degree; no man can handle complete honesty without being cut at each turn. There's not enough room in a man's head for sanity alongside each grief, each worry, each terror that he owns. I’m well used to burying such things in a dark cellar and moving on.” ― Mark Lawrence

I realize that the USA possibly electing the incompetent, cognitively impaired and corrupt Joe Biden is a hard truth to embrace, but they may do it. This is especially true if many people die of covid-19.

One of the true marks of a leader is empathy. Great generals care about their soldiers. Trump having indoor rallies during a pandemic is a clear sign that he cares more about himself than his followers. He definitely is a narcissist. Unfortunately, so is Joe Biden. Unfortunately, narcissism is common among baby boomers.Conservative (talk) 06:59, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

South Dakota Governor: There Were No New Outbreaks After Trump July 4th Event - Coronavirus Numbers are Dropping (Video) VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 08:48, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

Maybe there is a chance that Biden is going to win against Trump (I sure hope not, though. Trump's done a lot of strides to not just restore America, but also is coming very close to ending Roe v. Wade right now. Came far closer than in 1992 based on media reactions including Disney head Bob Iger shooting himself in the foot ordering a boycott at Georgia over a Pro-Life bill, something that his predecessor Eisner NEVER did back in 1991/1992 with the leadup to the infamous Supreme Court ruling where Anthony Kennedy ended up voting to keep Roe v. Wade the law of the land.). However, if you're going to claim we're still under a pandemic, we need sources for the claim that it's still ongoing. Sources that are fully vetted, and NOT done as a clear political maneuver (we also need to be careful about using the CDC as a source, whether stating the pandemic is over or continuing, especially when we've got a former CDC head literally pushing for the closure of all schools, and given he was appointed by Obama, is most likely a political hack). Pokeria1 (talk) 07:41, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

The Wuhan virus has a 99.97% survival rate. Unless invalids went to the rally, his audience is pretty safe! And tell me, is decentralizing Trump really a narcissist or is that appearance just a persona to infuriate the leftist media? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:06, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

"The State of Texas today had to remove 3,484 cases from its Covid-19 positive case count, because the San Antonio Health Department was reporting 'probable' cases for people never actually tested, as 'confirmed' positive cases.- TDHS

"What other departments make this same mistake?"—Steve Eagar

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:15, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

99.7%? So all those people filling up hospitals in Italy, New York City and Wuhan and dying was just an illusion?

America has the fattest population in the world and an aging population, yet its case fatality rate (CFR) is very, extremely low? That makes no sense.

How does mortality differ across countries? - Johns Hopkins Medical School.Conservative (talk) 13:43, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

If Trump wins by a thin margin, it will be because Joe Biden is such a weak candidate and because people trust him more with the economy. Trump has been very fortunate in that he has competed against very weak Democrat opponents.Conservative (talk) 13:50, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump is in a tough situation overall. The USA has: a massive debt, a coronavirus pandemic, a tougher economy due to the pandemic, an unreasonable political opposition and a public that does not have a strong understanding of science due to a public school system that is ranked below many countries. So there is less room to manuever.

In the Philippines, America is popular. America did help the Filipinos overturn the oppressive Japanese invasion. But there was a big price. Tons of Filipinos lost their lives. Manilla was destroyed because Americans tried to keep casualties low via heavy artillery use in Manilla. But if America decided to bypass the Philippines and MacArthur never returned, many Filipinos would not have died. Sometimes people want freedom more than a lower risk of death. Many Americans consider liberals/leftists to be oppressive and want more freedom. Perhaps it could be argued that many Trump supporters would rather risk their lives in order to have more freedom.Conservative (talk) 15:49, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

I didn't mean the case fatality rate. I meant overall in the U.S. I was quoting Bill Mitchell. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 17:13, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

I don't know who Bill Mitchell is, but I am guessing he is not very knowledgeable about infectious pandemics.

The other thing Trump faces is that Americans are much more independent than many cultures who have managed the coronavirus much better. This is especially true when the USA is compared to more collective, Asian, developed countries. Asian cultures are more collectivist than many European cultures because rice farming requires more collective effort than wheat farming.[7] In these Asian cultures, it is easier to gain public compliance to anti-virus infection laws/guidelines.

Trump changed his campaign manager. He knows he is in trouble. In order for Trump to win, he will probably need a couple of September/October surprises.Conservative (talk) 17:25, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

Let's put your hypothesis to the test: If there are 75,000 fatalities in the United States, and we suppose the survival rate is 99.97%, how many people did he assume have contracted the virus?

75,000 ÷ 0.0003 = 250,000,000.

Uh-oh, 75% of the population contracted? We did say 50,000,000 over a month ago.

You are so busted! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 18:09, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

You also talked about getting business started again? This week Trump dismantled infrastructure regulations. They are over a decade out of date, and Trump is exploiting the Wuhan virus to negotiate infrastructure contracts with the big players without interminable preferential treatment mandates favoring their lobbyists. What are they going to do? Not do business during a massive slowdown? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 18:21, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

Turnout? Did you know Trump got more votes in the Georgia primary running unopposed than Obama did in 2008 as the first nationally competitive black nominee? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 18:27, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

It's hilarious how the Democrats don't know how badly they are going to be beaten. Do you think pompous politicians forcing everyone to wear masks is an attractive look for a party? Do they think voters have nothing beter to do than LARP formulaic dystopian science fiction? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 18:56, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

I don't suppose the survival rate is 99.97%. I gave the Johns Hopkins Medical School data.

Lastly, I don't think we are going to have a productive conversation about this matter. I am bowing out of the conversation.Conservative (talk) 20:33, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

Thank you for your participation. By the way I was referring to your hypothesis that "he is not very knowledgeable about infectious pandemics." not that you presumed the 99.97% survival rate. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 22:55, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

I hope and pray President Trump and VP Pence get re-elected because they've done a great job so far on almost everything; and legal abortion is very close to ending, and the liberals know it. One more term will certainly do it, because both Breyer and Ginsburg are very old. As discussed above, if Pryor and Barrett replace them, it's game over for the liberals and we win this 50 year old spiritual battle, this great war. We conservatives win like forever. Because those judges are very conservative and very young and will judge and rule for like the next 20 to 30 years long after PT NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:01, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

If Trump had spent more time educating himself on covid-19, he could have given fairly frequent public meetings educating the public on this matter and giving them the latest news like Andrew Cuomo did and his favorability on this matter would have soared (I realize that Andrew Cuomo made huge mistakes during the coronavirus crisis like putting covid-19 patients in nursing homes).

If Trump had done this, he would have made better public policy and informed the public more. As a result, the public may have behaved better in relation to the coronavirus pandemic.

Instead, he blew his credibility on this issue in a way that is hard to recover from. Trump spoke about people ingesting disinfectants to treat covid-19 which would be poisonous to people. And because he is a proud man, after making this public flub on the coronavirus issue, he disappeared from giving fairly frequent public meetings on this matter. This was a mistake. Dana Perino, who is on Fox News and was a former White House press secretary, says Trump should go back to giving these daily briefings on the coronavirus pandemic.

FDR during the Great Depression and WWII crises era gave fireside chats. People want to fairly regularly hear from their presidents when it comes to crises. Trump needs to act more like FDR when it comes to his communication strategy. Conservative (talk) 09:19, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

Another thing Trump could do is to have an official CDC/White House information page and quiz on covid-19. People love online quizes. The more the public is educated on covid-19, the better the coronavirus pandemic can be mitigated.Conservative (talk) 09:33, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

President Trump did a great job promoting Hydroxychloroquine in the face of the media denial and also did a great job on ventilators. President Trump has been good. The media makes it look otherwise because the lamestream media - it is painstakingly obvious - is working to get the democrats re-elected. That means they don't do their job well. President Trump's news briefings were good and Kayleigh McEnany does it well now for the Administration. I believe Christians should support President Trump. The main reason the left is panicking is because we are one or two judges away from decisive, lasting, pro-life, pro-family victories that will last a lifetime. God Bless you. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:08, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

Battle of Portland

Left-wing rebels tried to set up a CHAZ-like state in Portland. Fortunately, the Department of Homeland Security was there to take it out: "Police Prevent CHAZ Disaster in Portland." They are calling it Chinook Land Autonomous Territory (CLAT). U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden (OR-D) complains that this operation "plays well with right-wing media.” DHS seems like an odd choice to be the frontline anti-riot agency. President Lyndon Johnson sent the 82nd Airborne to Detroit to put down riots in 1967. Today's army doesn't seem to think that putting down rebellion and riots is part of its job. The soldiers liked former Defense Secretary Mattis and have been disappointed with Trump lately, according to Military Times. PeterKa (talk) 21:08, 18 July 2020 (EDT)

The Portland Courthouse is well on its way to becoming the Fort Sumter of our emerging civil war, if this story is any indication. PeterKa (talk) 05:38, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

Senate Confirms President Trump's 200th(!!) Judge

Axios reports: "The Senate on Wednesday voted 52-48 to confirm Cory Wilson, a conservative state court judge in Mississippi, to be U.S. Circuit Judge for the Fifth Circuit.

Why it matters: Under the leadership of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the GOP-led chamber has confirmed 200 of President Trump's appointments to the federal judiciary.

Wilson is Trump's 53rd appointment to a federal appeals court. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) was the sole Republican "no" vote. The landmark achieves a Republican goal of filling every appeals court opening by the end of the year.

The big picture: The federal courts carry significant weight in almost every area of policy, and have been a priority for Republicans during Trump's presidency. The milestone illustrates how President Trump has reshaped the federal judiciary with young, conservative judges during his first term.

What they're saying: “Following Number 200, when we depart this chamber today, there will not be a single circuit court vacancy anywhere in the nation for the first time in at least 40 years,” McConnell said on Wednesday, according to the New York Times. “It’s a victory for the rule of law and for the Constitution itself.” https://www.axios.com/senate-confirms-trump-judge-200-075288ec-470d-441a-b0b8-9498a7e3bedc.html—unsigned edit by NishantXavier (talk) 08:13, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

How we can increase Conservapedia's users to over 100000

Conservapedia is nearing 50,000 Content Pages! That's surely a major milestone. It's taken nearly 50,000 pages to reach slightly over 70,000 users. That's about 1.4 users per page. So at that same rate, if we want to cross 100,000 users soon, we must cross around 70,000 content pages. I think we can do it within about 2 years, and faster if we all increase the pace and the quality of our contributions. We must each have personal targets of creating many new pages with rich content so that Conservapedia as a whole can cross those new milestones soon. If 100 users create 200 pages each in the next 2 years, the target is reached. For myself, I will be creating at least 400 articles, on Christianity in every one of the 200+ countries, and on all the 200+Popes. WE should also invite our friends to use Conservapedia more or more often, so that the Christian and Conservative influence and presence online may grow stronger. I started this project https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:150_Million_Souls_for_Christ_the_King both to fulfill the Great Commission and also to boost Conservapedia's readership. As more people sign up to give their testimony, Conservapedia grows stronger.

Conservapedia's current Alexa Rank is 120,000 https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com Considering that there are some 2 billion websites in all, and some 400 million active ones, that's pretty good - but it can be improved. Let us strive that year-on-year Conservapedia's rank improves by at least 10000 in all. That too will happen as we attract more people to the site by more good articles. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:25, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

One way might be to appeal to conservatives outside the US. Unfortunately, Conservapedia's coverage of most of Europe is very muddled. I imagine the rest of the world is in a similar blind spot. Unless there is a move to include more foreign editors who can bring local knowledge and experience, it might be an idea to sell the site as an excellent way to understand what is happening in the US. I've been coming for almost 13 years and it's what I'm here for! Rafael (talk) 16:33, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

Great Suggestion, Rafael! We need more users well acquainted with Europe, Latin America, even Asia. That's the only lasting way in which Conservapedia can successfully reach a universal audience. Wikipedia's strength is that it has already attracted such users from every continent. Still, we should be able to catch up; but we'll need to encourage explicitly more articles with a broader-than-North-America-only policy. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:32, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

America is showing its European roots right now - insane and self destructive. It must be in the blood. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 16:40, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

Hi NishantXavier, there are two important things I should note. Firstly, about reaching out more people, I previously suggested here that we could make ads to put on YouTube. Secondly, in regards to the number of registered CP accounts, most apparently are either never used or just vandals seeking their fifteen minutes of fame. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} 16:46, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

Great Idea, Liberal Tears. Youtube ads are another way we can increase traffic. I'm all for that. I do feel the major way we can do so is by having many great articles, though. There are many historical subjects of interest that are not yet sufficiently treated on Conservapedia. So that will have to be finished. As you note, currently vandals keep signing up, so that will have to keep us on our toes. Eventually, though, we hope the boring vandals will become bored by their boring attempts to vandalize and give up. After all, they can be blocked and their edits reverted in seconds. And after that, hopefully then more productive users will sign up instead. It will be a long process, to be sure. I feel we can catch up to Wikipedia one day. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:32, 19 July 2020 (EDT)

In terms of content quality, we're way ahead of Wikipedia, though it's the quantity we need to catch up on. I hope to be on this site for quite a while to contribute good content, especially with history, as you mentioned. And when it comes to important U.S. political figures in the past, I'm looking forward to potentially creating some great pages sometime. And in regards to vandals here on CP, because of their stupidity, most will never realize that they're just wasting their time thinking they can win a war against us. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} 00:36, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Yes, true, it's on quantity that I meant. 50,000 content pages is a great milestone; and 100,000 must be the next. Maybe within 5 years? Let's see. I feel sure by the time we reach such milestones we'll be seeing far greater productive traffic on our site. Let's work diligently to achieve that goal. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:31, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

This idea that the Roman Catholic Church is traditional, rightwing, and conservative, and that Protestant churches ae liberal, leftwing, and corrupt ain't gonna fly. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:04, 20 July 2020 (EDT)