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Discussion on proposed comment rule

Admin action: I am going to post below a copy of Jacob Dreizen's Comment Policy. At the Community Portal page, we may have to have a discussion sometime about adopting it or a modified version for Conservapedia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:23, October 28, 2022 (EDT)

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Here it comes....

Tucker Carlson led a violent mob of Republican white supremacists in a break in of Nancy Pelosi home and beat up her drunk husband. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:10, October 28, 2022 (EDT)

Now, if you will recall, after a guy took a crap on Pelosi's doorstep in San Fransisco, the Capitol Police (which is not an Executive Branch agency) were given $2 billion in increased funding to expand its reach outside Capitol Hill grounds, and across all 50 states, including surveillance drone technology. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:24, October 28, 2022 (EDT)

Pelosi Attack Pinned on MAGA Without a Shred of Evidence. Am I right or am right?

Here's a theory: Ukrainian Neo-Nazis did it, just like they did the J6 riot. They don't care, they have no love or affection for Pelosi. They just need war funding to continue. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:33, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Biden has already blamed Republicans for the attack. It turns out that the suspect lived in a "hippie collective" in Berkeley and was "a friend" of Paul Pelosi. He was mentally ill and arrived in his underwear. It shouldn't matter what his politics are. But the liberal media sure didn't waste any time before making this a partisan issue. PeterKa (talk) 02:11, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Alternative scenario: Paul Pelosi was a having a gay affair with his nude friend while his wife was away when the domestic violence occurred. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 02:28, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Reefer madness hits the Pelosi home

The guy who attacked Pelosi's husband with a hammer turns out the be a Castro street nude dancer and a hemp jewelry maker from Berkeley. Another example of reefer madness, I say. Here is a video of the dancing. (Don't worry, no one is actually nude.) If the Dems have lost this constituency, who do they have left?

Part II: Nude Awakening. The suspect in the Pelosi case is no ordinary nudist, but a former lover of Gypsy Taub, the Bay Area's best-known nude activist. She created a public access talk show called My Naked Truth where she would detail 9/11 conspiracy theories, apparently without clothes on. (I didn't watch myself.) [2] (This link includes a picture of her doing, um, what she is famous for.) Pelosi is known to wear clothes, so perhaps we have found a motive. PeterKa (talk) 23:32, October 28, 2022 (EDT)

According to MSM reports, a man with a hammer breached the home of Nancy/Paul Pelosi which had an outside glass door (or a door made of clear material which could be breached by a hammer).

In an age of political polarization and Democrat corruption, if I were an elected official today in a high profile post, unlike Nancy Pelosi, I would not have glass doors on my home which the intruder easily breached. I would have steel doors with reinforced frames, thorn bushes in front of windows, motion detector outdoor lights, cameras, alarms that go off once the perimeter was breached (doors and windows), weapons, a dog of a sufficiently formidable breed like a Doberman and martial arts training. I would especially do this if the city of San Francisco was run badly and is a Democrat, crime-ridden cesspool which is the case. Paul Pelosi is a soft man who lacks MACHISMO and so he was ill-prepared! Even the Boy Scouts believe in being prepared! Maybe now the Democrats will not be soft on crime now that crime has come home to roost and affected a high-profile, Democrat family. Conservative (talk) 03:08, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Was the window broken from the inside or outside before police arrived? I don't follow MSM. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:17, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

I saw a picture that seemed to show the glass door was broken from the outside.

Paul Pelosi needs to watch the movie RAMBO: LAST BLOOD instead of being an effete, liberal, sissy man! Conservative (talk) 03:22, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

(ec) Nancy Police is protected by the most, by far, well-funded police dept on the planet, the Capitol Police - you know, the guys who murdered Ashli Babbitt and you can't get FOIA records cause its not an Executive Branch agency. You know, the guys who covered up the Democrat IT scandal. The outfit with a budget in excess of $2 billion now since somebody took a crap on Pelosi's doorstep. [3] He got arrested a few hours later after the local cops got a call from DC. But since then, the Capitol Police now have surveillance drones deployable in 50 states and 435 Congressional districts with facial recognition technology. And Lord knows what else. And this was before the J6 protests. So nothing you are saying, and I'm assuming it comes from MSM, makes any sense.

Bottomline: Paul Pelosi was having a gay affair while his wife wasn't home when violence occurred, and - just as in Paul's recent DUI arrest - the local cops, courts, and media helped cover it up. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:29, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

If my Twitter account gets restored, I'd run an impartial poll and ask:

What seems a more plausible scenario?

a) A nude man breaks into a house in the middle of the night and assaults someone with a hammer.

b) Somebody has a homosexual affair at home while their spouse is away and it erupts in violence.

Which has a greater degree of probability, or seems more plausible or believable? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:34, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

I get sick just thinking about it. And I'm not even quite sure what effete means! VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 06:38, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

At my age I can say, if had sex with Nancy Pelosi, I don't think I'd ever want to have sex again. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:05, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

On a more sober note, the Democrats need to stop pushing racial polarization, class warfare and other divisiveness. And they need to stop engaging in censorship and banana republic tactics. This is the stuff that creates political powderkegs.

Sun Tzu said to attack weakness and not strength. You are only as strong as your weakest link. The Capital Police are not going to prevent a breach of an outside glass/clear door on a personal home. Conservative (talk) 03:39, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Powderkeg? Yah, if you follow MSM, cause that's what it's programmed to do.

Paul Pelosi is gay. Period. Nuff said. And being married to her would be enough to drive any man to gaydom. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:41, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

If you look at the picture above, maybe it was not a glass door. Maybe it was made of some clear material which could be easily breached with a hammer. Conservative (talk) 03:49, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

It's all BS. Go back on Youtube and listen to what Jesse Waters at FOX had to go through to get police reports and even a mugshot of Paul Pelosi after his recent DUI. It shouldn't be too hard with YouTube search. And Paul wasn't even the victim there. Jesse Waters is the man to listen to now in this case as its developing. Waters has done the groundwork. Waters knows how insulated the Pelosi family is (he's reported on their son's corrupt activities in China, which I haven't followed much. But their son is as well protected as Hunter Biden).

Don't take the MSM BS hook-line-and-sink, as is wont to be your habit. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:54, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

New York Post: Inside the marriage of ‘ruthless’ Pelosi and her ‘bon vivant’ husband. It is looking like the luck of the Pelosi's is beginning to run out - at least to a small degree. Nancy will soon not be Speaker of the House and her corrupt husband was attacked by a hammer-wielding man. But they still have millions. But in the end, if they don't repent, they will both go to Hell. Conservative (talk) 04:02, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

By the way, I already saw the Jesse Walter's reports about Paul Pelosi's DUI. Conservative (talk) 04:04, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Good. So that's your starting point. Monday, the first business day of the week, tune in. Waters is a professional, so he can't throw out conspiracy theories to the public. But he can hint at things that what you are being told by MSM is suspicious, as it takes time for him and his staff to investigate. If Waters calls him a "victim" on Monday The Five or his show, then me personally, I'd forget the whole story cause nobody else (of high profile media) is following up. If he says the whole story seems 'curious", stay tuned and absolutely reject the MSM narrative. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:11, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

I think I went overboard commenting on this matter. Scripture says, "Do not rejoice when your enemies fall, and do not let your heart be glad when they stumble, or else the Lord will see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from them. Do not fret because of evildoers." (Proverbs 24:17–19 NRSV).

And I have more productive things I could be doing. Conservative (talk) 04:17, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

The scripture also says, "A lying tongue is but for a moment", so when I do research on Hillary Clinton, Russiagate, or the Ukraine War, I'm doing the Lord's work: "The lip of truth shall be established for ever," and the lying tongue of the MSM is but for a moment. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:22, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Call it a personal quirk of mine, but I just get highly, personally offended when the MSM lies to my face, and I know they are lying. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:40, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

What makes me angry? That some gay queer married to a corrupt politician gets attacked by his lover, and the automatic response is, "people will believe MAGA did it." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:52, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Gatewaypundit: This Is Interesting: San Francisco Police Dispatcher Describes “David” as “a Friend” in Pelosi House Call (AUDIO)

The story is growing legs. The cover story is blown.

Lessons learned: Do not take MSM bait. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:24, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Comment: I lived through the Watergate era. I know the whole story. It was just like this. Nixon was attempting to shape media narratives about the Pentagon Papers, the Watergate breakin, and a bunch of other stuff that follwed. That's what's on the Watergate tapes. Nancy Pelosi is doing right now what Nixon did when he was informed about a breakin, she's telling aides, "Can't we get the cops to lie?" RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:31, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Update: The Pelosi Home Invasion Just Got Weirder.

Comment: I scooped them all by 12 hours with my MPR post. Again, it was not even a 'home invasion'. Do not fall for MSM BS. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:46, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Oh no, RobS is mad at the "gay queers".

The Gateway Pundit is himself a participant in a same-sex marriage. What kind of conservatism are you practicing?

I read the Watergate hearing transcripts presided over by Senator Sam Ervin. What kind of example did he set in his Senatorial career? I read how one of the Watergate burglars stuck some tape on the door from the Watergate offices to the garage parking lot, then a security guard pulled it off, and the burglar stuck it back on. That doesn't seem too bright to me.

Then there was this scene in All the President's Men where Deep Throat said to Robert Redford that "There was more" criminality involved "than little Donald Segretti". I don't think Deep Throat ever explained that remark.

And Carl Bernstein cracked the case through his "sources" in the phone company? That's kind of a big source! "I have inside information on" anyone who has a phone?! VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 16:06, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

The point is, MSM will lie and cover up for a Dem, they manufacture BS against a Repub. It's an old game. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:23, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Update: DEBUNKED: This absolutely devastates narrative on Pelosi attacker DePape the media are CLINGING to RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:27, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Another theory of the case: Paul Pelosi picked up a homeless gay drug addicted prostitute and took him to their house while Nancy wasn't home. In the course of the evening, a domestic battery occurred. Whether it was before or after the homeless male prostitute discovered or realized the political connections of Mr. Pelosi is unknown. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:36, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Gypsy Taub was born in Russia in 1969 and has been living in the United States since 1988. [4] She founded the Jerry Garcia street clinic for the homeless in 1996. [5] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:52, October 30, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Columbo moment: The outside glass door in the back of the house. The glass appears to have been broken from the inside! See: Paul Pelosi attack doesn't add up: David Webb Conservative (talk) 00:53, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

When you dispose of MSM completely, you can approach a story like this with an unbiased view. None of my well-vetted sources disappointed me. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:24, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

There's a whole series of questions to ask:

1. Why no description of the clothing Pelosi was wearing.

2. What was the length of time from the 9/11 call until police entered the home.

3. Who allowed the police into the home?

4. What pocket did the alleged nude attacker carry his bag of zip ties in?

I've read zero MSM accounts or videos, so I'm dependent on you guys to provide the answers. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:59, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

• Depape's "rightwing posts" turn out to be fake. That a homeless drug addict could write more coherently than Biden or Fetterman was always a bit suspicious. PeterKa (talk) 06:48, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

So this begs the question: What person or persons are responsible for the toxic and divisive rhetoric? They must be held accountable. Lying lip are but for a moment. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:21, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

What the Pelosi case reveals moreso than corruption at the top of the political system, or in FBI law enforcement, or media (all of which was known before), but the level that Democrat partisanship has trickled down, permeated and infiltrated into local police departments, cops who are willing lie, distort facts, and deceive the public based on political motives. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:31, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Sources familiar with the matter allege Paul Pelosi arrested on child porn charges. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:19, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

Why does Biden hate jokes so much?

The USA vs. other high income countries and people diagnosed with mental illness. (Click on the graph to enlarge)

Check it out: "Biden rips GOP over Paul Pelosi jokes." There are a whole series of articles in today's media that go down this anti-joke road, including one in the New York Times. Hey, Samantha Bee never told a joke, at least not one that was remotely funny. The Producers had Nazi jokes! And they were funny. When a guy with a powerful position turns off security at his house to meet with a gay homeless drug addict who then takes his hammer and hits him with it, that's objectively funny. When the police arrived, Paul and Depape were in a life-or-death struggle for control of the hammer. So who opened the door? Today's "journalists" don't ask questions like this. Instead, they ask, "Why are Republicans laughing?" One takeaway is that Paul is clearly not a very smart person. Yet the Pelosis' expect us to believe that Paul's success in picking stocks was due to talent. Jokes are no laughing matter these days. I was banned from Wikipedia over a joke. PeterKa (talk) 05:49, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

Paul Pelosi does not have a powerful position. His wife does. And soon his wife will not have that position.

More importantly, given the amount of mass gun shootings, general crime and homeless people in the USA, the USA needs to do a better job of integrating people into society. People who are lonely, isolated or who have poor social skills are more likely to have mental illness. I provided a graph to the right which compares the USA to other wealthy nations (Click on the graph). Conservative (talk) 10:21, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

I am going to surmise a point: there is no evidence that the boyfriend carried the hammer into the home. In fact, the evidence points to the hammer being the Pelosi's property. No reporting on this key bit of evidence speaks for itself. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:45, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

Alt-right Twitter leader imperils alleged legal standing with racist remarks

It seems a racist alt-right Twitter leader, @CityBureaucrat, of whom I've spoken before, has imperiled his alleged legal standing as he characterized a failure to stop and render aid by Chicago police of two black groups as justified as a case of "mutual combat". @CityBureaucrat claims to be an officer of the Chicago courts.

It's further been discovered the self-deprecation he applies to his own race is actually a form of veiled ridicule! This is a sensitive subject as he acts among white nationalists whom are not necessarily themselves racists. I will try to summon the prior link. Stay tuned. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 18:25, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

What on earth are talking about? "Alt-right" is an FBI/DNC conspiracy theory. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:37, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

It may remain one if the participants scatter! Stay tuned. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 18:41, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

link to Tweet

Let me get this straight: After the Alt-right rampaged the U.S. Capitol building, they broke into Paul Pelosi's house in their underwear and assaulted him with a hammer. Is that what you're saying? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:02, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

If you've seen the link, tell me what it says. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 19:17, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

Any news? Time may be of the essence. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 19:39, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

"Second City" refers to Chicago. "Second City Bureaucrat" refers to the corrupt Democrat machine that runs Chicago. So it looks like typical Democrat BS 3 days before a federal election, spread nationally, to sidetrack and confuse voters with more Democrat BS and noise. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:45, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

You're quite mistaken. Second City refers to Chicago generally, and the masthead on his Twitter page has a picture of a Chicago Trump building and his name is indexed here at Conservapedia as a source in 2019.

You're right it's Democrat BS, but it's from the wrong team. He's posted continuously since Hillary's election under different aliases as a Trump supporter. He thinks he can be racist to prove his credentials, but another source says he's changed his cover story. This is a big fish. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 20:07, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

Oh really? Now it would help to find some context to whatever it is you're talking about.

Oh, and cause some Nazi Democrat Ukrobot says he's Republican, means nothing. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:29, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

You keep changing the subject. Did you read the link or not? What did it say? You can search Conservapedia everything for @CityBureaucrat. I don't have access to user contributions or recent changes. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 20:37, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

I'm not feeling the love. I nabbed an alleged officer of the court in the act of malfeasance hiding under Trump's good name who's an out and out racist, and instead of celebrating, you won't verify my story. What's going on? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 21:05, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

I'll be back tomorrow; you've been stalling for two hours, and you won't restore access either. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 21:31, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

What are "neo-puritan" trolls as listed on the Twitter Conservapedia entry? Anglicans? I've met few strict Christians on Twitter, and they're not trolls. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 06:24, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I don't have a clue what you're talking about. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:54, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Okay, I'm going to drop this, as I think there's probably better ways than putting something here. I meant and was carrying this out as simple task, but sometimes I convey messages I never intended to carry, unload burdens onto others I never knew were heavy. If that happened here, I'm sorry, but knowing myself, I'm sure it won't be the last time. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 14:47, November 6, 2022 (EST)

The war is heating up

War news competes with economy, crime, immigration and other top issues of concern to voters. We need less cheerleading and a balance of important news and issues of concern to voters on MPR. Thanks RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:40, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Remember the adage: 'Less is more.' You can pack a more powerful punch with fewer words impressed on people's minds than a windy paragraph. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:59, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

I think this applies to me and is a mischaracterization. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 16:08, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

I think you're wrong. It applies the MPR postings. But the same rule generally applies also in article mainspace and talk page discussions.

You haven't even participated in any NATO war discussions, AFAIK. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:27, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

You haven't participated in any economic, crime, or immigration discussions, either. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:29, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Russia Will Slaughter The 101st Airborne Division Screaming Eagles In Ukraine. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:32, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Update: It's snowing in Moscow; snow forecast for Kyiv in 3 days. 80% of Kyiv without water. 2,500 Ukie/NATO troops killed last week. Time for NATO to throw in the towel? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:08, November 1, 2022 (EDT)

The grain deal with the Ukranians/Russians/others broke down

I just heard that the grain deal with the Ukranians/Russians/others broke down. As result, in developing countries there is expected to be reports of food shortages and even famine in the weeks and months to come.

That could result in their being another European migrant crisis which would further destabilize Europe. It could flood Europe with African and Middle Eastern migrants. Conservative (talk) 19:39, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

No it didn't. It was a political, non-military reprisal act for NATO's military aggression and attack on the Russian Fleet in Sevasatopol. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:55, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

GRU: UPDATED: MAJOR ATTACK OF UKRAINIAN & US DRONES ON RUSSIAN BLACK SEA FLEET IN SEVASTOPOL, CRIMEA. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:03, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Here's the Live News feed from CIA headquarters in Kyiv, the official approved press narratives, i.e the bs you need to be aware and wary of as it trickles down into the MSM & public consciousness. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:09, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Fun fact: if Sevastopol ceases to be a safe port, the entire SMO becomes strategically redundant. This (fun) fact will not be lost on the various Russian elites & old school siloviki. ConwayIII (talk) 21:30, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Bingo. Do want the box or the curtain? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:49, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

I'll take Andy quietly memory holing your fan fiction as a more than adequate prize. ConwayIII (talk) 21:53, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

So NATOs reaching for the crown jewels, they're saying now or never. Desperation? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:56, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Just turning the screw. ConwayIII (talk) 21:58, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

You turn it too far, and the head breaks off. And you did that yourself. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:37, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Men will say, "If the American Empire is to last another 80 years, this was their finest hour." Of course, you know how that turned out. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:41, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Hitler's 1000 Year Reich didn't last 13 years. Churchill's 1000 Year Empire didn't last 2 years when he was unceremoniously booted out of office, after defeating the evil Nazi regime, by the sovereign democratic will of the people. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:13, October 30, 2022 (EDT)

Understanding the organization of Ukrainian forces

Location of Ukrainian Nazi forces circled in red.

For this one, you're going to have to think outside the box. The Ukrainian armed forces are not organized along the US or NATO lines. Although all military and paramilitary forces receive weapons, training, and funding from NATO, not all forces are under the command and control of the supposed "government of Ukraine". While some of the units receive pay from the Zelensky regime, and are cooperating with the NATO command structure, they remain 'independent'. 'Independence' is what they are fighting for, and they remain 'independent' of the Kyiv regime, the EU, and NATO. This is explained in the Pravy Sektor article. They are simply allies of the Kyiv regime, NATO, the EU, and US for the moment.

Unlike Pravy Sektor, the Azov Battalion and others are government units under the Ministry of Interior, and not the Ministry of Defense armed services. They are somewhat like 'national guard' units under the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (don't get confused; the Ukraine regime also has its own separate 'National Guard' under the Interior Ministry, but Azov and others are also in the Interior Ministry under the SBU. To make a parallel, it would be like the FBI & CIA inside the DHS rather DOJ or a separate agency, and then having its own large black helicopter formations with tanks and artillery).

To the right, circled in red are the Nazi units fighting in, and with, the Kyiv regime. Notice, most are behind the front lines. There, they function like Red Army Commissars in the old Soviet Union. As well as SS Einsatzgruppen in the Third Reich. They shoot deserters and retreaters like Red Army Commissars. In 'liberated' territories, they murder civilian 'collaborators'. The Nazi units stationed near the front in areas undergoing thick combat right now are performing the same function - shooting people who refuse to fight and terrorizing civilian 'partisans'.

Neither the Russian Federation nor NATO forces are organized like this. The Ukrainian model is a holdover from WWII, using both Nazi & Soviet methods and techniques. And you, the American taxpayer, through the United States Congress, are paying these war criminals with money laundered through the Zelensky regime, and direct weapons support and training through NATO.

Now, Does the end justify the means? NATO, the CIA, Pentagon, and anyone else involved in these war crimes fully understand the Nazi forces of the Pravy Sektor are 'independent', and fighting for their 'independence' from Russia, from the EU, from the US or any other external power. Very few of our idiot Congresspeople, who have made American taxpayers complicit in this collaboration with Nazis, understand these Nazis have no loyalty to Zelensky, the Kyiv government, or 'Western values.' RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:01, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

During the Syrian war and ISIS propaganda war, you will recall CIA/MSM manufactured the oxymoronic term, "moderate rebel"; the blue and yellow flag is the flag of the "moderate rebels" against Russian hegemony which is controlled by Washington, NATO, and other Western institutions (World Bank, IMF, WEC, etc) and wants integration with the European Union. The black and red flag of the Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) wants 'Independence' from all outside control (EU, NATO, Washington, 'international bankers', etc.) These armed forces, while receiving NATO & US weapons, training, intelligence sharing, etc., do not take orders from the Zelensky regime. They are merely 'allies' in a temporary unified command. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:10, November 3, 2022 (EDT)

To summarize: some Nazi units are in the Ukrainian government under control of the Ministry of Interior. These are more specialized units. A far larger number of troops do not recognize the legitimacy of the 'Jew led" Zelensky regime. This is the Pravy Sektor or Right Sector, which in addition to receiving NATO weapons & training, is paid by the money appropriated by the US Congress and laundered through the Zelensky regime. But they are more than just an army for hire. The also are a political party in the Ukrainian parliament (one of the parties that Zelensky did not ban) and constitute Zelensky's main opposition (since Zelensky banned all the socialist and communist parties, the so-called "pro-Russian" parties).

The Pravy Sektor is hailed in the West as the most heroic fighters. Because regular AFU are all 60 year old conscripts (the young are all dead), and Pravy Sektor is the most fanatical. The point is, Pravy Sektor is not even in the Armed Force of Ukraine (don't worry about them being a threat to Zelensky when the fighting is over, as the Zelensky regime does right now. Pravy Sektor and the Zelensky regime won't last that long. The only question is, How long can NATO last as a fighting force in Ukraine without using nukes.)

How Ukraine aid money laundering works

The recent announcement of a $400 million aid package for Ukraine shows how the Ukraine aid package works. The U.S. buys up $400 million of old Soviet junk from former Warsaw Pact members, like T-55s, gives them to Ukraine, then has the old Warsaw Pact member sign a contract to replace the equipment with modern American weapons. Raytheon gets a $400 million kickback out the process.

T-55s for example, were built in 1955. So they need expensive modifications and refitting before they can be sent into combat. So the cost of refurbishing is part of the kickback. Of course, the months and years it takes to refurbish many of these weapons take longer than the probable life-expectancy the Zelensky regime. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:43, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Joe Biden and Ukraine peace talks

If you read the WaPo article, you would know that Biden told Zelensky to pretend to be open for peace talks, as he told the Afghan president to pretend to be in charge and fight. A headline on the subject was posted two days ago. The Essay/headline is uninformed and misleading not 24 hours before election day. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:24, November 7, 2022 (EST)

You can't introduce a proper noun like 'Pavlovka' that takes hours and hours of research to understand, worse yet, taking the MSM meaning of the term, 24 hours before people have to make a major decision. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:46, November 7, 2022 (EST)

I can't say I've ever seen a headline begin with "Because". [6] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:40, November 7, 2022 (EST)

How's this:

"Because Biden's an idiot because he had two brain surgeries and because he stole the election and because of high inflation and because crime and because a useless war and because he and his family are corrupt, the Midterms are in doubt."

We need a certain level of professionalism to represent CP on MPR. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:46, November 7, 2022 (EST)

I just saw the byline to the Washington Post article. It does imply what you said. I will delete the post. Conservative (talk) 04:36, November 8, 2022 (EST)

Now you need to develop this narrative: 10 reasons the Republicans should end funding the war in Ukraine: Reason No.11: US profiting off dead Ukrainians. [15] Arms producers, LNG exporters big winners. [16].

Don't be a whimp. Don't back off and be shy now. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:05, November 8, 2022 (EST)

According to the Yahoo link, the US has already pocketed $200 billion in arms and LNG gas in 8 months. Not bad for a $56 billion investment.

And don't think those stupid Third Worlders are too stupid to see what's going on; it's the Americans and Europeans who are too stupid. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:15, November 8, 2022 (EST)

Cutting Ukraine aid

The UK being forced to cut Ukraine aid puts more pressure on the US to pick up the slack. This news item should not be headlined unless the editor is prepared to follow through with all the details involved over an extended period of time. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:44, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Masha the translator

• US TO DELIVER LONG RANGE HIMARS? LPR Weapons Expert Fears More Civilian Deaths.

As the history of this the war is being written, I find the story of Masha the translator interesting. From what I gather, she had been arrested in an anti-war protest early on. And as part of her sentence, as you have similarities in the US criminal justice system, she was assigned as translator for John Mark Dougan, and now iEarlGrey, to go to Donbas, see for herself what Russia is fighting, and report for Western audiences. In this video, you can see she has grown into an excellent translator. Generally, translators undergo specialized training, but in her case I think she was just bilingual, and has mastered translation on her own from experience. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:30, November 11, 2022 (EST)

My war in Ukraine Summa Politicalogicas and their inspiration

My war in Ukraine Summa Politicalogicas can be found at:

• 10 reasons the Republicans should end funding the war in Ukraine

• Why the United States should not spend another dollar on the Russia-Ukraine War

The works were inspired by the protestations of my stances on Ukraine by a pro-Ukraine, British agnostic.

On behalf of all principled, small government, right-wing conservatives with a fairly good grasp on geopolitics, I hereby declare total victory! Conservative (talk) 14:14, November 13, 2022 (EST)

You need to revise the "Pivot to Asia" part, cause the Ukraine war is being frozen while the US "pivots" to the Taiwan war, which will probably go hot by spring. The US can't fight a two-front war. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:58, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Maybe. Time will tell. Joe Biden isn't the most rational being on the planet and the military-industrial complex has a lot of influence in American politics. In addition, Putin has a lot riding on the war in Urkaine. In addition, China has a lot of economic troubles and I doubt it will launch a war over Taiwan soon. And at the end of the day, wars are unpredictable - including the Russia-Ukraine War. Conservative (talk) 16:06, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Ok. I'll put you down in the pro-warmonger camp for war against China, and all the people you mislead, given China is so weak and vulnerable at this point and ripe for US aggression. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:11, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Ok. Thanks for letting me know. I hope I can bear to go on another day. In the meantime, you might want to look at the recent economic stats related to China. Conservative (talk) 16:16, November 13, 2022 (EST)

I have. And so has Jake Sullivan. Strike while the iron is hot. Hell, the warmongers even got the American people to back them up in the recent Midterms. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:21, November 13, 2022 (EST)

The warmongers got everything they need for war with China. They got conservatives, Congress, and the media on their side. They might as well finish the objectives they started under W Bush & Obama. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:24, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Right now, you're 0-3 on taking MSM bait, on covid, the NATO war, and the Red wave. I wouldn't be so quick to rush off into a fourth disaster without reflection - especially since you've been warned. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:29, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Jake Sullivan isn't a geopolitical genius and he does not have a leadership position in China. And Andy Schlafly likes my recent essays on the Russia-Ukraine War. Andy Schlafly, the founder of Conservapedia, is quite conservative. Don't you agree? Lastly, at Conservapedia, I have a pretty good track record in terms of overall accuracy when it comes to coronavirus pandemic and my accuracy on this issue is higher than yours. Conservative (talk) 16:37, November 13, 2022 (EST)

I don't understand why you articulate Jake Sullivan's position on the "pivot to Asia", and I doubt Andy supports it. Have you asked him? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:43, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Incidentally, Jake Sullivan is the guy with his finger on the nuclear bomb. Nobody trusts Biden cause he's demented. So the power has been delegated. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:44, November 13, 2022 (EST)

If memory serves, and I think it does, Andy told me off wiki that he liked my first Russia-Ukraine essay. Today, Andy suggested an improved title for the second Russia-Ukraine essay which I adopted. I assume since Andy liked my first Russia-Ukraine War essay, he likes my second Russia-Ukraine War essay, which builds on the first Russia-Ukraine War essay. Conservative (talk) 16:50, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Ask him specifically about the pivot to Asia. You can use any of these Yahoo results as a starting point. [7] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:55, November 13, 2022 (EST)

To clarify, John Mearsheimer considers China to be a significant competitor to the United States in terms of balance of power geopolitics.[8] This is why Mearsheimer believes the USA should pivot to Asia in terms of its concerns. Conservative (talk) 16:57, November 13, 2022 (EST)

You need different language than "pivot to Asia". Mearsheimer does not use that language. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:59, November 13, 2022 (EST)

There is all sorts of phraseology you can use, "focus on the Pacific rim", etc. "Pivot to Asia" is support for the Biden, Hillary, Jake Sullivan neocon foreign policy. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:02, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Support for ANY confrontation with China is support for the Biden, Hillary, Jake Sullivan neocon foreign policy. Same goes for support for ANY confrontation with Iran, and of course Russia.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:12, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Professor John Mearsheimer on the pivot to Asia:

John Mearsheimer: "The second factor is that China's neighbors and the US are pushing back. The US began to contain China regionally with the 2011 pivot to Asia. This created a spiral mechanism that is now in play: the Americans and their Asian allies are pushing back against China, and China is responding."[9]

German journalist: "You mentioned the pivot to Asia. How serious was this engagement by the US? Many Southeast Asian countries feel they have been left to fend for themselves?"[10]

John Mearsheimer: "I think there's no question that, when former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced the pivot to Asia in 2011, the US was just beginning to think about containing China. During the Barack Obama presidency, not much was done."[11]

Many times I have heard Mearsheimer at YouTube use the phrase "pivot to Asia".

If the term "pivot to Asia" is good enough for Professor John Mearsheimer, an eminent scholar in his field, it is good enough for me! Conservative (talk) 17:14, November 13, 2022 (EST)

In all instances cited above, Mearsheimer is responding to questions about the Hillary Clinton State Department officially declared policy, with Jake Sullivan as her chief national security advisor. "Pivot to Asia" is not a phrase coined by Mearsheimer. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:34, November 13, 2022 (EST)

If there’s one flaw to Mearsheimer’s way of thinking, it’s that he seems to assume that all other superpowers are to be treated as threats no matter what. He would be saying the exact same thing about China today even if it weren’t communist.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:18, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Sheesh. All quotes are pre-2016, when it had a different meaning. The Pivot to Asia Was Obama’s Biggest Mistake. Today we rightly understand "Pivot to Asia" to mean transfer the MIC money laundering process from Afghanistan, from Ukraine, to Taiwan. You can't just cut and paste a worn out phrase from 8 years ago and try to appear informed or persuasive. Just change the damn wording. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:17, November 13, 2022 (EST)

On a related note, is it reasonable to believe China’s implication that the Taiwanese government was involved in the COVID conspiracy?--Geopolitician (talk) 17:20, November 13, 2022 (EST)

No. This is a footnote to history. It was Taiwan that reported the Wuhan outbreak to the WHO, not Beijing - although all MSM sources say "China" did, which technically is correct. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:23, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Mearsheimer: "I am a liberal". RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:19, November 13, 2022 (EST)

No matter how you cut it, an argument for "pivot to Asia" is an argument for interventionism away from the the wars in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:41, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Mearsheimer is not an interventionalist, but he is center-left in his overall politics despite belonging to the realist school of geopolitics ("The theories of realism are contrasted by the cooperative ideals of liberalism in international relations"[12]). He was against NATO expansion post the fall of the Soviet Union and he is against Ukraine becoming a member of NATO. Conservative (talk) 18:18, November 13, 2022 (EST)

You are pitching interventionism with this phrase:

The USA needs to defund the war in Ukraine ASAP and pivot to Asia!

and support for the Hillary Clinton State Department. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:19, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Again, the prominent geopolitics scholar John Mearsheimer is most definitely not an interventionist and he uses the phrase "pivot to Asia" (which I proved) and I recall him using the phrase "pivot to Asia" in various YouTube videos. I won this debate. Now it is time for you to graciously admit defeat. Conservative (talk) 19:28, November 13, 2022 (EST)

You're 0-4 already. Cutting and pasting out old Hillary Clinton rhetoric exposes you as a fraudulent researcher. Go pivot to Asia.

Just stay away from things that you haven't clue about. You're misleading conservative readers, again. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:41, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Anyone who wants to "pivot to Asia" now has their head up their culu. "Pivot to Asia" was a pitch for the Trans Pacific Partnership. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:45, November 13, 2022 (EST)

More and more articles are appearing about the U.S. trying to push Ukraine into "realistic" peace talk negotiations Russia. THAT, is your "pivot to Asia". However, there still is no guarantee that $100 billion a year funding for either Ukraine, or Taiwan, or both, will terminate. You need to rip that nonsense out of you Essay. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:27, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Propaganda update

• Dagestani forces capture American mercenary

Looks like a scruffy ol' Southern Democrat Johnny Reb type. When Dagestani forces hit him with a rubber shoe, he says "I don't understand". Of course he doesn't understand - he gets all his information from Western MSM. Brittany Griner - who has no respect for foreign laws of a foreign culture that paid her $1 million a year - will be out of the gulag long before this "defender of democracy" ever sees the light of day. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:59, November 14, 2022 (EST)

• Interview With iEarlGrey & @John Mark Dougan from Donbas for Russian media. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:19, November 15, 2022 (EST)
• Eva K Bartlett and iEarlGrey report from Donetsk. This small group of English-speaking journalists reporting from Rusia and Donbas, including Patrick Lancaster, Graham Phillips and few others, who have had the courage to stand against Nazism, transgenderism, Satanism and everything evil in our time while the rest of the West condones and supports it, are becoming legendary. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:44, November 15, 2022 (EST)
• 'Hang the Muscovites!Hang the commies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:04, November 17, 2022 (EST)
• Zelensky the Liar – He Will Be Remembered by History like Hitler, by Martin Armstrong, November 16, 2022. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:00, November 18, 2022 (EST)
• "Ukrainian officials confidently insist Russia has shot its wad and gullible Western intelligence analysts, pundits, politicians and journalists regurgitate this nonsense." - intelligence analysts, pundits, politicians and journalists deserve even more derision for the Ukraine war than they do for Russiagate. We knew they were liars from the gitgo, but 100,000 people weren't killed in Russiagate (unless you want to factor covid in the equation somehow.)
• Then you have nonsense like this in Ukraine media: "The state assumes the costs of evacuation from the de-occupied territories of the South." No it doesn't. The US taxpayer "assumes the cost". The Kyiv regime is long bankrupt. Ukrainians are in such a hurry to become stupefied Westerners and wards of the state, like Americans, they will believe any line of bs coming from media, government, and 'experts', even when their own lives are at stake from that same government, media, and experts who talked them into war with Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:07, November 20, 2022 (EST)
• This is what a pro-Ukrainian military analyst is saying: "the biggest problem is not so much Russian side is is really a Ukrainian Authority in Ukrainian leadership that's not really capable to uh to solve the problems. and not only that they they themselves not capable and they prevent people from saving themselves essentially. and that's where really the problem is. in all of this, and I think as time passes, it will be big it will become more and more evident and clear that current Ukrainian leadership is a literally a threat uh to Ukraine's survival. and it becomes it will become uh more clear again uh that it's doing more damage to Ukraine than than anyone, and including more than Russia. so again so the situation is really on the edge. uh where it's gonna go uh will remains to be seen. with the temperatures are going down below zero now in Ukraine uh for you know we'll we'll see how it all what will happen. and also really depends on the on the Russian resolve to put sort of final nail in the coffin of Ukrainian electricity distribution system."

Well duh. It's not like nobody saw this coming when Russia did not knock out the power grid from day one, as American "experts" and idiots criticized Putin last February. Instead, we've been treated to 9 nine months of bs and lies. Putin didn't take American "military experts" advice in February cause he did not want the war to expand, he did not want to inconvenience civilians. But no, these expert idiots go, "Putin's weak Russia's weak" and they pumped in billions, and killed 100,000. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:32, November 21, 2022 (EST)

• The first ever Russian washing machine on low-earth orbit. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:08, November 22, 2022 (EST
• All Of A Sudden, Huge Earthquakes Are Hitting The West Coast Of The U.S. And Other High Risk Areas. Comment: Probably just an old Cold War weapon. The only question is, Did the Russians share the technology with the Chinese? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:34, November 23, 2022 (EST)

• Jacob Dreizen: The RepubTARDS. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:42, November 23, 2022 (EST)

• Ok, granted, using a TOR to shoot down a drone can get a bit expensive for the Russians, in this, the first drone war. So in a war of attrition, using an expensive TOR missile to shoot down an expensive US drone still won't give NATO or Ukraine the edge. But it might P-off the Russians a bit more toward NATO and the West. That's not healthy. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:31, November 24, 2022 (EST)

• More Putin propaganda that will get you on the Russia sanctions list. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:42, November 24, 2022 (EST)

• Russia Ops in Ukraine (Update): Western Propaganda Implodes as War of Attrition Grinds On. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:15, November 27, 2022 (EST)

Berletic makes a valid point here, comparing the GDP in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan to the collective GDP of NATO countries, which our brilliant war planners seem to think US superiority in GDP justifies spending on the war in Ukraine against Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:16, November 27, 2022 (EST)

NATO missile strike on Poland

12 hours ago the whole planet, led by Zelesnky and the MSM, were bracing for WWIII. Then Biden calls time out in the fourth quarter with 5 minutes to go, and says "Nah, wait." Okay. So who cares who murdered two innocent Polish farmers the MSM & Zelesnky were prepared to nuke the planet over? Hey, missiles are flying around, and sometimes people get in the way. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:03, November 16, 2022 (EST)

Update: WWIII swept under the rug. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:06, November 16, 2022 (EST)

The myth of Ukrainian nationalism

You've heard much about proud Ukrainians "defending their country". Well now you can see it's all been a myth.

As 50% of Ukraines's electrical power (built by the hated Russians, whom the Ukrainian regime wants to rid itself of any memory) has been destroyed, the regime has imposed electrical rationing on areas that have been unaffected by war. Well, these areas don't give a rip about whose suffering and dying in other parts of the country, so they have taken to the streets to protest the Zelensky regime's imposition of blackouts. So much for "Ukrainian nationalism and national pride". The Zelensky regime's days are numbered. "My God, this man cannot remain in power."

Go ahead, try to convince these people Russia caused their problems, not the Kyiv regime & NATO. Good luck. Unlike American and Western news consumers, these protesters are not fools. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:23, November 19, 2022 (EST)

0-5

After rifling through the Archives to update Conservapedia proven right, I'm gonna put User:Cons down as 0-5. I stopped counting after about a half dozen references how the Javelin missile was gonna win the war for Ukraine; never got to M777 Howitzers or HIMARs. Seriously, again Cons, you need to either stop reading that MSM propaganda bs or at least think twice before repeating it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:11, November 24, 2022 (EST)

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel on China's theory of punishment

This guy's observations are really bizarre, but is known for insight on matters he's able to get right, so we have to listen to him regardless, if we want to understand how our ideas in Western Civilization got to be what they are.

He notes about China's jurisprudence:

Punishments are generally corporal chastisements. Among us, this would be an insult to honour; not so in China, where the feeling of honour has not yet developed itself. A dose of cudgelling is the most easily forgotten; yet it is the severest punishment for a man of honour, who desires not to be esteemed physically assailable, but who is vulnerable in directions implying a more refined sensibility. But the Chinese do not recognize a subjectivity in honour; they are the subjects rather of corrective than retributive punishment, as are children among us; for corrective punishment aims at improvement, that which is retributive implies veritable imputation of guilt. In the corrective, the deterring principle is only the fear of punishment, not any consciousness of wrong; for here we cannot presume upon any reflection upon the nature of the action itself. Among the Chinese all crimes, those committed against the laws of the family relation, as well as against the State, are punished externally.

As regards responsibility, the distinction between malice prepense and blameless or accidental commission of an act is not regarded; for accident among the Chinese is as much charged with blame, as intention. Death is the penalty of accidental homicide. This ignoring of the distinction between accident and intention occasions most of the disputes between the English and the Chinese; for should the former be attacked by the latter—should a ship of war, believing itself attacked, defend itself, and a Chinese be killed as the consequence—the Chinese are accustomed to require that the Englishman who fired the shot should lose his life. Everyone who is in any way connected with the transgressor, shares, especially in the case of crimes against the emperor, the ruin of the actual offender: all his near kinsmen are tortured to death. The printers of an objectionable book and those who read it, are similarly exposed to the vengeance of the law. The direction which this state of things gives to private revenge is singular. It may be said of the Chinese that they are extremely sensitive to injuries and of a vindictive nature. To satisfy his revenge the offended person does not venture to kill his opponent, because the whole family of the assassin would be put to death; he therefore inflicts an injury on himself, to ruin his adversary. In many towns it has been deemed necessary to contract the openings of wells, to put a stop to suicides by drowning. For when anyone has committed suicide, the laws ordain that the strictest investgation shall be made into the cause. All the enemies of the suicide are arrested and put to the torture, and if the person who has committed the insult which led to the act, can be discovered, he and his whole family are executed. In case of insult therefore, a Chinese prefers killing himself rather than his opponent; since in either case he must die, but in the former contingency will have the due honours of burial, and may cherish the hope that his family will acquire the property of his adversary. Such is the fearful state of things in regard to responsibility and non-responsibility; all subjective freedom and moral concernment with an action are ignored.

I don't know where this guy gets his information; maybe he shapes the stories he gets hold of to contrast philosophical ideas rather than chooses to explain things according to historical truth. His dialectical appositions of what ideas are contrary to one another take on a fixed character, and I don't think that's the right way to do philosophy. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 15:26, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

FJB chants at Obama rally in Michigan

A crowd chanting FJB disrupt Obama rally in Michigan

Parts of Barack Obama's Crowd Chants FJB --Alex Kosh (talk) 21:48, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

Moonofalabama.org

The fact that the moonogalabama.org website has been offline now for more than 3 days should be taken as a heads-up that NATO is plotting something really big. Moon Of Alabama is one of three key websites for analytical information. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 02:54, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

Sevastopol is the main target. To get there, the 101st Airborne has to take Moldova, Transnistria, Odessa, Nikolaev, and Kherson first. To get to Transnistria and Odessa, the 101st has to get past Russian S-400 missile defense system based in Sevastopol first. Hence the raid on Sevastopol the other day, to test the system.

This why there's a media backout. U.S. aggression against Moldova and Transnistria, and the Russian Federation territory of Crimea, needs to be censored. As well as the use of a nuclear dirty bomb so the 4,700 man 101st Airborne force can advance against 75,000 Russians. Developing. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:18, November 1, 2022 (EDT)

Note: Should a nuclear dirty bomb be used, I suspect a 24 hr to 72 hr lag time in reporting to shape media narratives. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:57, November 1, 2022 (EDT)

About Bolsonaro's election

Hello, I want to put on the spotlight this news: Steve Bannon Says Bolsonaro Can't Concede As He Rails Against Biden and CIA Brazil: Silent Bolsonaro Keeps Everyone Guessing After Lula Victory--CatolicoAustral (talk) 18:33, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

Once again, Bannon exposes himself as a troll who uses populist talking points as a means to dupe MAGA supporters into endorsing the Deep State agenda. In reality, the Deep State has nothing to gain from a Lula win. In fact, one can argue that Lula would be worse for the Deep State agenda than Bolsonaro. Because while both candidates are nationalist populists who refuse to get onboard the “hate Russia” bandwagon, only Lula opposes the Deep State’s efforts to contain China and Iran as well.--Geopolitician (talk) 11:07, November 1, 2022 (EDT)

a) Don't look at the man, look at the bureaucracy. Who controls the globalist-infiltrated bureaucracy? Bolsonaro, like Trump, failed to gain control of the entrenched civil service system, i.e, the Brazilian deep state. b) Splitting or neutralizing the growing political influence of BRICS is the main objective of globalists. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:49, November 1, 2022 (EDT

Update: an important audit has being made of the elections by an Argentinian, check here: [13]--CatolicoAustral (talk) 16:42, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I would hate to be a liberal/leftist right now

"It looks like we're toast." - Cenk Uygur's prediction on the Democratic Party's prospects for the 2022 midterm elections.[1]

With a likely red wave hitting the U.S. midterms[14] and refugees/migrant levels pouring into Europe approaching the 2015 European migrant crisis levels[15] which caused right-wing populism to rise in Europe at the time, it looks might gloomy for liberals/leftists right now.

On top of this, leftist mainland China is facing significant financial problems.[16] Will the Chinese Communist Party lose power in the next 5-10 years?

Oh liberals and leftists, it's too bad you made politics your god. Because God Almighty is smiting your false god! Conservative (talk) 13:56, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

I think you're misreading the current situation. It is not a typical contest between left/right, liberal/conservative. You're using an old school approach.

US support for Ukraine is the cause of global economic hardship. The GOP, and GOP patriots will not stop it. Only a coalition of supposed "left" and "right" can stop and reverse it. You're looking at the problem with a discredited old school approach, which many see as a big factor in causing the crisis. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:16, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

The focus needs to be on the fact that ALL Americans, Dems, Pubs, etc, have been lied to. Not a contest between left and right. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:20, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

We need to bombard readers with updated factual information, and less partisan cheerleading. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:24, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

Partisan cheerleading sounds as ridiculous as explanations for Paul Pelosi's conduct. Focus on specific facts and issues, for example Charlie Crist's pledge to bring back masks and lockdowns. [17] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:28, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

Listen to the language and rhetoric Tulsi Gabbard uses, appealing to 'independent-minded Democrats', if you truly want a Red wave. You're not going to get Democrats to repent and change, see the error of their ways, and become conservatives. But you can drive a wedge between Democrat elites and 'independent-minded Democrats.' RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:32, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Elon Musk triggers the usual suspects with pre-election message ‘to independent-minded voters’. Am I right or am I right? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:55, November 7, 2022 (EST)

IOWs, you do not want to ignore this whole group, 'independent-minded Democrats', which your whole 'red wave' is absolutely and utterly dependent upon. In all election cycles, talk of a 'Red wave' or 'Blue wave' should ONLY occur AFTER, I repeat AFTER, results are final. It is demoralizing for two aspects: (1) it makes voters apathetic cause their vote won't be needed (see the case of Thomas Dewey and 1948 election, for example); (2) if a wave election does not occur, or only is marginal, we are subjected to months and months of stupid debate over "What is a wave election?" when we have more important things to attend to, as well as having a loss of credibility. Wave election talk is for about 5 minutes of gloating when the election is over. Period. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:59, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

No cheerleaders ever won a game. You have to scare the hell out of people - like the KKK will burn a cross in your yard or inflation will eat your children alive - to motivate people to vote. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

Then you have comments like this:

" the 2015 European migrant crisis levels[29] which caused right-wing populism to rise in Europe at the time"

Okay. So they've had 7 years to fix things. What have they done? Is that what "rightwing populism" and conservativism is, just a flash in the pan? A fad, like leftism, without principles? And the world looks a whole lot worse today since the last "rise of rightwing populism." You make "rightwing populism" look impotent. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:24, November 2, 2022 (EDT)

Between Latinos and white, suburban women turning against the Democrats, there is going to be a red wave. I cite the Steve Turley video: Now that white, suburban women (who the Democrats said were going to vote for Democrats due to Roe vs. Wade being overturned) are projected to vote Republican by a 15% margin, panicked Democrats are turning on each other.[18] Conservative (talk) 19:44, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

Biden promised more election fraud the other day. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:16, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

Politco just published where the Democrats plan to cheat; [19] it's all the same places they cheated in 2022 (of course, they cheated nationwide, but these are the places that can upset the balance): South Texas, Long Island New York, Northeastern Pennsylvania/Lehigh Valley, Orange County California, Clark County Nevada, Maricopa County Arizona, Atlanta Metro Area, Wake County North Carolina, Wisconsin’s 3rd Congressional District. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:22, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

“The big picture shows that you can never really count out Steve Bannon, both because of the trajectory of his career as well as the status of the movement in which he is a prominent figure,” she said.

Bannon has maintained that status by keeping the myth of the stolen 2020 presidential election front and centre in his broadcasts as key to engineering Trump’s comeback if he runs again in two years.

But Bannon’s most important role at present may be his championing of what is known as the “precinct strategy”, which seeks to take control of the Republican party from the bottom up, getting Trump supporters to take low-ranking, often vacant, positions within local branches. They are then in a position to select more senior party officials and to influence decisions such as the staffing of elections and selection of candidates, and ultimately to move up the party ranks.

Maga activists are also targeting school boards and poll monitoring positions.

“We’re going to take this back village by village … precinct by precinct,” Bannon said in one of his shows pushing the strategy.

ProPublica contacted dozens of Republican party county leaders across the US who reported significant increases in membership applications that appear tied to the precinct strategy.

Peltz said that the consequences could be with America for years.

“If Bannon is successful in shoehorning grassroots activists, which it appears that he is, he could have loyalists controlling the levels of power within the Republican party and, even more concerning, in election administration. That could be almost impossible to unwind for years and decades to come,” she said.

For all that, Bannon faces challenges."[20] Conservative (talk) 21:54, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

What else is new? That's how American grassroots movements have always worked. It's called, "democracy." Bannon didn't invent it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:29, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

Bottomline: You still take entirely too many words to express very little. On MPR, your routine editorial treatises that take up 1000 bytes or more can be pared down to less than 200 in most cases. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:45, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

My advice: Take my advice, unless you want people to think you're a r*tard who has trouble expressing himself. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:49, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

Learn to be economical. 'Less is More'. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:01, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

Look at the format of Bizpacreview's main portal page. It carries items on a wide range of interest to their and our readers, often told with a bit of humor. For content and speeches that you make on MPR, make the readers click on the internal link. Use teasers to draw them in. Don't give away the whole store in a long-winded speech nobody is listening to. And above all, avoid repetition.

When you find an item of interest to our readers, it should be added first to a mainspace article, if only to keep articles updated if it truly is a headline grabber. Too often, somebody rushes to MPR with a headline and links to stale content in the encyclopedia. This is self-defeating, and self-destructive. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:12, November 5, 2022 (EDT)

Incidentally, I was the editor of my high school newspaper and did an internship with a business publication under a former editor for the The Chicago Tribune who worked with Studs Terkel. Since then, I've worked many years in print advertising. So I learned a little bit about the publishing business. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:19, November 7, 2022 (EST)

I see. My first work endeavor was being a paper boy. :) That's if you don't count selling products door to door in order to pay for summer Boy Scout camp. :) Actually, I don't recall which one I did first.

Presently, I work in a field related to book/film publicity for a major podcast (Like in the top 1% of all podcasts in terms of popularity. Something I helped happen). I also read a 300+ page book on book marketing for debut authors as I will be helping a debut author sell her nutritional book that she already had printed out. She wants to clear out her book inventory. I am doing this as a favor to a past client of mine.

Recently, I saw the film documentary Case For Case by the ex-atheist Lee Strobel who formerly worked for the Chicago Tribune as an award-winning journalist. It's a great documentary. I recommend watching it. Conservative (talk) 15:39, November 7, 2022 (EST)

I have sold millions of dollars of advertising to and for businesses (actually, I tried to add it all up once, but when you sell a continuing contract, you can only lowball the figure to a fixed number). So I know bit about what catches the public's eye, and what persuades and convinces decision makers. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:54, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Let's talk about signage, for example. When you drive down the street, businesses spend millions and millions of dollars on billboards and store front signage to get out their message, consisting chiefly of business name, product, location, and possibly phone number. Now, how many seconds in your car does the average consumer have or spend to absorb the relevant and vital information? Answer: less than 2 seconds.

For Yellow Page, click bait, and headlines, there is scant improvement for the amount of vital time readers are willing to spend. Learn from the Babylon Bee. They have mastered the art. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:33, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Blake Masters lead polls

Blake Masters lead latest poll from Emerson College over fake moderate Mark Kelly 48%-47% --Alex Kosh (talk) 12:24, November 4, 2022 (EDT)

Trump attacks DeSantis on the eve of his re-election bid, again

This just happened. I called it.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:10, November 6, 2022 (EDT)

That's interesting. Congratulations on predicting it! Trump is the conservative populist, while DeSantis has benefited from Trump's coattails while also enjoying a boost for rightly opposing the vaccine police.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:16, November 6, 2022 (EDT)

Sundance is speculating that Trump made that comment in response to a recent ad by the DeSantis campaign which basically equates him to God. If that's the case, then I would've used a different nickname: DeSacrilege.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:23, November 6, 2022 (EDT)

In the same article, Sundance points out several parallels between DeSantis and Ted Cruz, and none of them are good.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:24, November 6, 2022 (EDT)

On a related note, I'm getting sick and tired of politicians trying to deify themselves and/or embracing deifying statements made by their followers. And when I say "politicians," I don't mean just establishment figures (like DeSantis), but also populist figures (like Trump). American politics, across the board, has become godless in every sense of the word. And people still wonder why our country continues to suffer misfortune after misfortune no matter who they elect.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:57, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Is that all you do? Sit around and wait for Sundance's reporting on the GOPe (Sundance's shorthand for the GOP establishment) where he mentions DeSantis? If you're such an avid believer in Sundance, why no discussion of the GOPe unholy relationship with Chamber of Commerce and globalists, cause that's Sundance's main point? The Wall Street v. Main Street aspect. Do you think we're a bunch of Democrats, enamored with personalities and we ignore real issues? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:55, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Talk about a pot calling kettle black. You’ve outright dismissed Sundance’s reporting in the past when he said things you don’t like. Example A: When he raised the idea that Pompeo was in on the conspiracy to release COVID from the Wuhan lab.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:13, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I don't get it. You're on this anti-DeSantis crusade for months cause he's a threat to Trump, and you attack Trump at the same time. Why don't you focus on the substance of what Sundance is talking about - criticizing the GOP establishment. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:02, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Wrong. I’m onto DeSantis because he is engaging in blatant opportunism. Whether Trump is the best choice in 2024 is a separate issue.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:13, November 6, 2022 (EST)

You're misreading Sundance. He says DeSantis is a GOPe stooge, like Romney and Jeb Bush. Nothing about opportunism. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:24, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Oh, I get it. You ignore all the nasty stuff Sundance writes about Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, and Paul Ryan cause they are not running for president. Your perspective is typical Democrat false messiah worship. You think you can drive a wedge between Republicans, between the MAGA GOP and the GOPe. Hey, we're not liberals, and we're not Democrats, and we don't think like Democrats. And when Democrat BS gets dragged in here, it stinks to high heaven. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:08, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Um, I’ve attacked Haley and Rubio here before. Multiple times. Go see the edits I’ve made to their articles. Also, I explicitly recall getting into a lengthy debate with you over Rubio back in July 2021, where you defended him from my attacks.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:13, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I've noticed. All you do is attack GOP candidates of presidential caliber, to include Trump, Pompeo, Rubio, DeSantis, Haley, etc. It's obvious. You never discuss core issues. Only personalities, like a typical Democrat. And when you do pretend to discuss issues, it's loaded with contradictions, like a typical Democrat office holder or voter. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:24, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Since when do Democrats care about subversive words and deeds by neocons, which by the way all of those people (minus Trump) are.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:44, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Since Dems will use any lame excuse to attack Republicans. I at least have some basis for my attacks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:56, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Lame excuse? You think supporting the geopolitical projects of Brzezinski and Kissinger is a lame excuse for me to attack neocon Republicans? How about supporting Wahhabism and blaming everything they do (including 9/11) on Iran? How about supporting color revolutions and false flag operations, and constantly lying about that? How about advocating the persecution of whistleblowers like Assange, Manning, and Snowden? How about supporting the continuation of the Patriot Act and NDAA? How about using the “Israel” card to corrupt our churches? And how about getting millions of people killed due to their misdeeds? You expect me to stay silent about that, just because they’re Republicans? Sure, I can focus on attacking Democrats, but that would be saying what’s already been said. I’d rather say what has yet to be said, thank you very much.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:52, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Let me see if I can follow this reasoning: Democrat warmongers and neocons have been exposed, and the public ignores it. So the one hope in defeating them, you wish to sink the Republican party. Is that fair criticism? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:26, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Nope. Many neocons still lurk in the shadows because much of the MAGA movement has only one eye open. That is, they don’t see neocons for what they are unless they’re openly against Trump. And on a related note, Trump seems reluctant to strike at the neocons first. He tends to wait until they publicly come out against him, if they ever do. Unless this changes, MAGA will remain at risk of being co-opted.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:37, November 6, 2022 (EST)

You said it, not me. The MAGA movement is blind and stupid. Twitter is not hiring right now, if you're looking for a job. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:44, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I said "one eye open," which is half blind and half with sight. They absolutely do have the right ideas, but their love for Trump sometimes gets in the way of them remaining true to what they stand for. Of course that's not Trump's fault. He can't control how they think. But he can control his desire to be accepted by the establishment, although that's technically a separate issue.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:12, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Okay, so MAGA Republicans are as stupid and emotional as Democrat cult followers. That makes sense coming from the Democrat point of view. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:18, November 6, 2022 (EST)

No, they aren't that far gone. At least they have one eye open. Democrat cult followers have both eyes closed, and perhaps have eyes missing from their sockets.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:33, November 6, 2022 (EST)

PS. If anyone has been using lame excuses, it’s you. You’ve been obsessed with trying to find proof that I’m some Democrat operative for years now. At virtually every opportunity, you scream “Democrat!” Much like how woke leftists like to scream things like “racist!” It’s really getting tiresome, you know.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:06, November 6, 2022 (EST)

There you go again. NATO warmongers (whom you often refer to as "neocons") follow the Brezinski Grand Chessboard playbook, which Kissinger opposes. As I said, when you do pretend to discuss issues, it's loaded with contradictions, like a typical Democrat office holder or voter, tossing out and demonizing personalities rather discussing core issues. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:19, November 6, 2022 (EST)

The only thing Brzezinski and Kissinger disagree on regarding the Eurasian Heartland is how to achieve domination of it. But Kissinger still believes in the premise that America must conquer the Eurasian Heartland in order to remain secure, so he is still part of the problem.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:28, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Kissinger is the main opposition spokesman against the neocon NATO warmongers implementing the Grand Chessboard. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:44, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Only because they're prioritizing dismantling and genociding Russia over dismantling and genociding China. He wants it the other way around, and thus is just the other side of the coin.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:57, November 6, 2022 (EST)

"genociding Russia"? What's that supposed to mean? Sounds like a neocon talking point if I ever heard one. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:03, November 6, 2022 (EST)

The neocons want to genocide the Russian population. You know that, and have pointed that out yourself several times.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:05, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Yah but I don't do it in ambiguous language. Are you saying neocons want to genocide the Chinese people, who are victims of the genocidal Chinese regime? When you do pretend to discuss issues, it's loaded with contradictions. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:08, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Yes, I am saying neocons want to genocide the Chinese people. Because that's what The Grand Chessboard calls for.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:21, November 6, 2022 (EST)

And you do realize I hold those people in such contempt because I see neocons as literal traitors to our country, not just as “establishment,” right?--Geopolitician (talk) 18:44, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Oh, we're back to neocons again. Why don't write something about the neocon/climate change alliance. It's happening in Germany (and destroying the country) and in the U.S., AOC is the leading proponent. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:56, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Sundance has touched on this subject, so you are quoting him out of context. I haven't seen a word about DeSantis joining up with AOC to support nuclear war and end fossil fuel consumption with Russia sanctions. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:01, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Except Sundance has pointed out that DeSantis supports the Ukraine war. I even shared an article establishing that not too long ago (last week, I think). The article doesn’t go as far as saying he’s part of the neocon/climate change alliance, but by my standards he de facto is.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:52, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Oh, so Trump is a neocon warmonger too, cause he's made statements that appear to be in support of the war, as recently as last night. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:19, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I still have hope that Trump’s position on this issue is malleable. But that hope is waning, I’ll admit.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:25, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Maybe Trump, the non-politician, learned something about politics - you have to lie to get into office.

Unlike Trump, Perot, Bloomberg, etc., DeSantis is not self-funding. So he has to take money from the traditional GOPe donor base to be the default candidate should Trump be Arkancided or die of natural causes. This issue has very little to do with ideology. And the beauty of the system is, he gets to keep all the money for a 2028 bid. I'll bet $100 whoever the nominee is, DeSantis will vote for Trump, and Trump for DeSantis.

You will recall, the evil neocon warmonger Ted Cruz was Trump's main opponent in the 2016 primaries. Trump went so far as insulting Cruz's wife's looks. The day after the convention, they were besties, and Cruz even stood up as an objector and election denier.

You're spinning your wheels with the BS and slander campaign you're on. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

Maybe it isn't about ideology for Sundance, but it certainly is about ideology for me. And since you brought up Cruz, he doesn't deserve the good standing he now has with Trump. Especially after several people from his camp joined the Trump administration only to sabotage it from within.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:01, November 6, 2022 (EST)

bla bla bla. All you do is trash Republicans. It gets tiring. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:05, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Not all Republicans, just the neocon wing. And if you oppose them like I do, then why should you have a problem with that?--Geopolitician (talk) 21:12, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I think I've proven a couple times over that you do not even know what a neocon is, other than an attack word. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:18, November 6, 2022 (EST)

But go ahead and use it, now that the neocons have taken over the climate change agenda. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:22, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Even Greta Thunberg is on board. Neocons are weening us off fossil fuels. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:24, November 6, 2022 (EST)

The central premise of neoconservatism is foreign interventionism in the name of maintaining the unipolar world order. Social issues come second.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:25, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Climate change was just a bunch of talk, until the neocons implemented a plan of action. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:28, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Only because they've become so Russophobic that they are now too stupid to understand that fossil fuels is what makes the Eurasian heartland strategically important in the first place (and apparently have also forgotten that the petrodollar exists).--Geopolitician (talk) 21:37, November 6, 2022 (EST)

It's all part of the Great Reset. Climate activists are warmongers. Progressives are warmongers. And the necons dominate them. The neocons are done with the GOP. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:03, November 6, 2022 (EST)

That last sentence would only be true if one accepted the premise that neocons who embraced Trump in 2016 and continue to support him in 2022 are no longer neocons. I wholeheartedly reject that premise.--Geopolitician (talk) 09:33, November 7, 2022 (EST)

The GOP is not the neocons prime focus anymore to infiltrate and promote their agenda. The Patriot movement, dominated by MAGA, is not the prime focus of neocons to promote American unipolar hegemony. The Green Agenda is the primary vehicle neocons are using to promote American global dominance. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:14, November 7, 2022 (EST)

I can't disagree with that one, but keep in mind that "primary vehicle" does not mean "only vehicle." There are others.--Geopolitician (talk) 10:35, November 7, 2022 (EST)

It's a tall order. You have to unbrainwash a generation of 17-year-old brainwashed climate change warmongers brainwashed by Greta Thunberg. I'm in my 60s, so it's your problem, my friend. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:05, November 7, 2022 (EST)

If you're going to follow Sundance, get with the program. His latest post is a link to Neil Oliver: 'The green agenda we’re being sold is absolutely not green'. Oliver says,

"Fast forward nearly 40 years after Live Aid and have a look at what the media and much of the rest of the mainstream are calling for now - the Green agenda, Agenda 2030, Net Zero and the rest of a hellish potpourri of policies guaranteed to condemn hundreds of millions to death by poverty, death by starvation, misery for want of the means ever to make their lives better. Half a lifetime after Live Aid, and earnest hopes of throwing arms around the world, the new clarion call is to snuff out the lights here in the West. To usher in the cold where there has been warmth. And to see to it that the achievement of the Industrial Revolution, and centuries of ingenuity that conspired to lift billions of people around the world out of poverty, are dismantled and unwound upon the altar of the new religion of saving the planet of tomorrow. Prioritizing that as yet non-existent world over the here and now. Millions upon millions of those living today, perhaps billions in the end, are to be sacrificed as though they don't exist. Any last vestige of camouflage, preventing us perceiving the true nature of the messiahs of the Green agenda, is falling away day by day. Celebrity truant Greta Thunberg's latest proclamation is that 'it's time to transform the West's oppressive and racist capitalist system'. She means overthrow it, thereby laying bare at last the motivation of her handlers." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:04, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Here's another. Jordan Peterson: Wicked Globalists Are Causing Starvation and Poverty Under the Guise of Environmentalism. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:27, November 6, 2022 (EST)

In your efforts to drive a wedge, you totally miss what Sundance is doing. He is not attacking DeSantis. He is documenting, step-by-step, how the GOPe operates. And why. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

And you don’t think he expects his readers to have hard feelings towards DeSantis when he writes what he writes? He always reads the comments and he knows full well how they have been reacting.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:13, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Sundance must be following our discussions, cause he clarified himself today with the Update below. It's not about DeSantis. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

Update: Sundance: “DeSanctimonious” is Not About the Florida Governor, November 6, 2022.

RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:26, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Crowd goes wild when Trump says re-elect DeSantis

So, hopefully this will put an end to the trolling. Crowd goes BANANAS when Trump says reelect Ron DeSantis at Miami rally! RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:31, November 6, 2022 (EST)

Trump embraces neocons again. Unfortunate.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:56, November 6, 2022 (EST)

I'm sure a lot of GOP voters are thinking now, 'If the presidential primary were tomorrow, who would you vote for?' They're thinking, 'I'd vote for a winner. DeSantis.' RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:42, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Trump’s latest tweet shows how JEALOUS he is of Ron DeSantis.

It was absolutely ridiculous to build up expectations of a Red wave rather than promote grassroots involvement in election integrity. Now Trump is getting criticism from conservatives, which will go on and on til the 2024 primaries. Rather than a Red wave, we got a split GOP now.

And it was obvious: those who promoted a big Red wave had no interest in the most vital issue - securing against stolen elections. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:58, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Sundance has a major update on the MAGA v. GOPe (Trump v. DeSantis) internecine conflict. [21] Given Sundance's style of commentary, he posts a major piece like this and will build upon it in coming installments. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:56, November 11, 2022 (EST)

Anti-lockdown stance gave DeSantis a boost

This is from American Thinker and belongs on MPR: "The biggest lesson of the election: Voters rewarded Republicans in statewide races who battled COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates."

Trump is out, DeSantis is in. If Biden wants it, the 2024 Democratic nomination is his. Otherwise, it goes to Kamala Harris. After all, they are both more coherent than Fetterman, Pennsylvania's incoherent stroke victim, artificial intelligence construct, and senator-elect. There was a massive red wave in Florida and South Dakota, the two states where Republican governors led the charge against lockdowns. In the lead up to the election, the buzz was all about, crime, inflation, immigration, war in Ukraine, and abortion. But in the voting booth, covid trumped all of those, as it had in Virginia last year.

Election night was a certainly a disappointment. This is the first time in a very long time that Republicans did significantly worse in the actual election than in pre-election polling. In 2016, 2018 and 2020, Republicans ran at least four point ahead of polling. One explanation I read is that that Biden's "Mega MAGA" and pro-democracy talk scared swing voters and made them reluctant to answer pollsters. "Hey Bess, one of those dangerous Trump-supporting Mega-MAGA people wants to know how we are going to vote." That would certainly be an amusing reason if it turned out to be true.

Powerline compares this election to 1978. The economy in 1978 was awful. But many Americans were still voting against Nixon, although he wasn't on the ballot. Republican gains were modest. In this analogy, Trump is the new Nixon. Not until Reagan was nominated in 1980 did Republicans get past Watergate. PeterKa (talk) 22:09, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Interesting analysis, but the real message is that Dems continue to get better each cycle at ballot harvesting and election fraud. The Pennsylvania election proves that Dems can elect Mickey Mouse in some states now with their machine. Next-door New York doesn't tolerate that high level of Dem-manipulated voting.

The GOP won, and a bigger win may not have been better. Mitch McConnell is a warmonger, while JD Vance won big by being anti-war. Also, who wants Biden to be able to run against a GOP Senate in 2024, as Clinton successfully did in 1996?

(added later with sig) The reality is that a GOP-controlled Senate now would be led by pro-war Mitch McConnell, who is so unpopular that it could cause massive losses in 2024 across-the-board. Trump has vowed to replace McConnell as GOP Senate leader in 2024.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:24, November 10, 2022 (EST)

And as the senseless war and killing ramps up on the ground, the US commitment to the war (which is driving the whole war) is firmed up. The consequences of this commitment is more debt, more borrowing, more inflation, and more economic dislocation for common people - which is exactly the globalists' agenda. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:19, November 10, 2022 (EST)

How does it take 5 days to count Nevada, a state that is little bigger than Wyoming? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:10, November 10, 2022 (EST)

92% of all land in Nevada is federal land. That means, outside of a handful of military bases and reservation land, the rest of the population lives on 8% of the land. Washington DC owns the State of Nevada, and there has got to be a connection between the naked, rampant voter fraud we've seen in federal elections in recent years affecting the control of Congress and the White House. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:19, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Dems are stealing the Nevada election and hopefully this will educate the Republicans who are in denial about it.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:24, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Re: 1978. The 1978 Midterms were a big comeback for the GOP, largely based on Carternomics & the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling, which people were only beginning to understand its ramifications. Also, the ERA was a big issue.

I comeback to MSM and MSM narratives, both in polling and news reporting. This shouldn't be that big a problem for us today with social media and internet. CP needs to strive keep MSM narratives off MPR, and respond with our own counter-narratives, linked to articles. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:34, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Taking all the Red wave bait from MSM polls and news reports has had a devastating and demoralizing effect, and strengthened our opposition.

The day I see polls with 95% right track/wrong track & 95% GOP generic ballot, is the day I will be more confident of a 51% win at the polls. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:39, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Why is media manipulation and mass brainwashing so difficult to understand? It is taught in poli sci, journalism, and computer advanced courses in colleges today. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:44, November 10, 2022 (EST)

The twenty-something year old punks at Twitter didn't learn about manipulation and brainwashing on the job - they were indoctrinated with it in schools, and got those jobs based on "qualifications". RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:56, November 10, 2022 (EST)

A lot of governors/Republicans/conservatives don't pay enough attention to educational issues. DeSantis has payed attention to this issue. See: Gov. Ron DeSantis, Who Leveraged Parent Outrage Over Schools, Wins Big in FL. Conservative (talk) 06:35, November 10, 2022 (EST)

You're speaking of primary and secondary education; the context mentioned above is post-secondary education. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:50, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Update: Gingrich turns on Trump. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:57, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Recall: Gingrich resigned Speakership after disappointing 1998 Midterms. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:58, November 10, 2022 (EST)

The Big Red Wave circles down the drain

So it's official. Cons, you're 0-3 on Coronavirus, the NATO war, and Red Wave (0-4 counting Paul Pelosi, but you didn't post that to MPR.)

Post Mortem:

1. You need to seriously re-examine your sources of information;
2. the time spent on pushing a Big Red Wave should have been spent on pushing election integrity and encouraging people to get involved at the local level as election watchers to prevent exactly what just happened, again;
3. the Big Red Wave, posted on MPR since May had two consequences (1) it demoralized potential GOP voters both before and after the election; (2) it damaged CP credibility as a source.

MPR should be used for two reasons: (1) providing alternative, qualified links and sources to the readers; (2) NOT promoting established mainstream media narratives (as you did in the covid, NATO war, Red Wave & Paul Pelosi cases.

No news story tells the whole story in itself. All news stories are developing, or continuing stories. We need to abandon the habit of posting sensational garbage that shows up in your Inbox. When the judgement is made to post a story, what needs to go along with it is a commitment to follow up with both continuing coverage, AND building article content on the same subject. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 02:26, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Three things wrong on coronavirus? I have no idea what you are talking about as far as two other things. And there is no definitive proof on the source of the coronavirus to this day so your lab theory of the source of the pandemic is merely a theory and one that is not supported by the weight of the evidence. I have no idea what you are talking about as far as NATO.

As far as the midterms, while the GOP did not have a red wave due to the unpopularity of Biden and high inflation/crime, Biden will still likely face gridlock because the GOP will likely squeak out a majority in the House. At this point, there is going a post mortem on why the GOP underperformed in the midterms and who is going to be the next president is up in the air. I am just glad that I am not going to depend on U.S. politicians when it comes to my future. Conservative (talk) 10:15, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Don't be coy. You consistently post MSM narratives which are counterintuitive, and defeat counter-narratives. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:38, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Here's the point: Since May, you pushed the Red Wave. That time and space should have been used to push voter integrity, and encourage people to get involved at the grassroots level.

Instead, you demoralized people by repeating over and over again, 'Don't worry, it's in the bag.' RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:45, November 9, 2022 (EST)

The big takeaway is that the country is fairly divided and the pollsters are unreliable. After the right/left leaning pollsters blew various recent elections, I am not going to pay much attention to them unless the margins are very big.

Rather than look at the polls in terms of political races, I think I will give more weight to the betting markets.

I cite:

"In this sense, markets react faster than the snappiest snap poll. The political gambling community itself would turn a pollster’s stomach. I have found it to be overwhelmingly made up of white, educated, males who are mathematically inclined and politically sophisticated (including a good number of politicians themselves). Yet there are quite a few statistical analyses that credit the markets collectively as more predicatively powerful than polls.

That said, betting market information expressed in probabilities – for example, Herschel Walker is given a 61% chance of winning and Raphael Warnock is given a 41% chance of winning – is much less intuitive to the public. This is because, unlike a poll, in betting markets a lead of 61% to 41% actually indicates a tight contest where either candidate could well win."[22]

But better yet, instead of following politics, I will focus more on important things like faith, family/friends, career, etc. The older I get the more apolitical I get. For example, both the Democrats and Republicans often spend like drunken sailors, but they spend on different things. Both parties are leading America into another Great Depression through their big spending ways. Conservative (talk) 11:06, November 9, 2022 (EST)

This IS the Post Mortem right here. And it needs to begin with you admitting that you contributed to the defeat.

And how did you contribute? By refusing to listen to advice, and stepping on my efforts to post counter-MSM narratives.

You've said that a dozen times, "I will stop following politics', and 3 days later you're back posting MSM garbage. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:11, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Additionally, your Red wave flag waving has done damage to Donald Trump, and elevated his probable opponent. There comes a time to defer to others with more experience in politics when you admit you don't have it, or are not interested.

My first campaign that I was actively involved with was in 1968 for Richard Nixon, 54 years ago, under wartime, inflationary, and crime ridden conditions, which is probably longer than you've been alive. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:02, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Pardon me, but I'm very upset about this. I have spent hours and hours shaping narratives to cull a 200 byte blurb with a link on MPR to a mainspace article, and within 15 minutes you would step on it with 1500 bytes of crap about UK potholes, gay salad bars, the glorious Red Wave, or garbage in support of Saint Zelensky (and the attendant inflation and crime that comes with it). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:11, November 9, 2022 (EST)

And you did the same thing with covid comes from eating bats, wasting more than a year of both readers and editors time with misleading information you culled from MSM. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:15, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Must read

Zerohedge: Midterms Post-Mortem: Comprehending GOP's Underwhelming Performance.

Did the narrative of the Red Wave seem like hubris?

At times rosy expectations can be the mother of all disappointments. The relentless talk of a red wave, which began in conservative media and spread like wildfire, could have had multiple consequences.

Perhaps GOP voters presumed a victory was inevitable and chose to stay home. Perhaps Democrat voters thinking that their party needs them in times of peril chose to vote.

Perhaps some voters thought of this talk of the red wave as hubris.

Voters often do not like politicians taking them for granted and second-guessing them.

Perhaps they decided to give the GOP a reality check?

Don't say you were not warned. Today is only the beginning, picking up the pieces. We need more cooperation and coordination on this page, and less bravado and sneering at other qualified editor's input. No single editor is the guardian of the conservative perspective. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:05, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Connecting the dots

The NATO war in Ukraine is fueling inflation with more borrowing and more debt; inflation fuels the crime crisis. The failure of the GOP to garner a consensus against the NATO war means the war, inflation, and crime will continue.

And as I predicted a month or two ago, the GOP will be blamed for the Recession, even if the GOP caves now to demands for Keynesian stimulus. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:20, November 9, 2022 (EST)

You nailed it, RobS. You absolutely nailed it here. And yet, few will listen. Earlier this morning I told a close relative of mine what you just said, and all I got was, "no, it was because of Trump. DeSantis 2024."--Geopolitician (talk) 12:22, November 9, 2022 (EST)

You see the problem: MSM polls create three stand alone issues: "Which issues are voters most concerned about," whereas it's all one issue: war + debt = inflation + crime. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:02, November 9, 2022 (EST)

Updates on Arizona Democrat election fraud?

RobS, you posted on main page right: "Updates on Arizona Democrat election fraud."

But you didn't provide a shred of proof of there being substantial election fraud in the 2022 midterm elections in Arizona. That is unacceptable. Is it too much to ask that the MRR post correspond to the link(s) that is/are provided?

The link to the 2000 Mules video at Bit Chute was far more compelling in another MPR post of yours (The 2000 Mules documentary was about the 2020 presidential election and made a case there was widespread election fraud in that election). Conservative (talk) 14:12, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Oh, you mean the people who suffered voter suppression didn't happen? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:00, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Did you read the link from Townhall on Kari Lake's and Blake Master's lawsuit against Maricopa county? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:01, November 10, 2022 (EST)

This is called narrative building or narrative construction. And it can be done with 200 bytes or less, not a longwinded Essay without internal links that nobody reads. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:02, November 10, 2022 (EST)

As any marketing specialist can estimate, it is obvious exactly what happened. Dems tend to vote early. Repubs wait til election day. Dems stuffed the ballot box pre-election day. On election day, a marketing specialist can estimate exactly which polling locations need to be closed, for what length of time, how many GOP voters will turn up, how many GOP voters will not wait, go to another location, or return in the afternoon to try again. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:51, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Steve Turley's commentary on the 2022 midterm elections

Steve Turley, who expected a red wave in the 2022 midterm elections, produced some post-2022 midterm elections videos which I think are pretty good.

• Something BIG Is Happening - The topic of political balkanization is discussed (Red states are getting redder and blue states are getting bluer). Political balkanization will hurt Democrats because 8 of the top 10 states people are leaving are Democrat-controlled states so if this trend continues Democrats will lose seats in the House of Representatives (see: 10 States People Are Fleeing And 10 States People Are Moving To). And most of the people leaving blue states are leaving the politics of their past state behind them (see: 10 States People Are Fleeing And 10 States People Are Moving To). For example, GOP leaning people are leaving big population states like California and New York.

• Republicans FLIP Five More Seats for Net Gain of 16

• Republicans WIN More SUPERMAJORITIES Than EVER - About 50% of the USA now has veto-proof state legislators whereas Democrats merely have 14 states with veto-proof majorities. Conservative (talk) 18:49, November 10, 2022 (EST)

That's right. After my No.1 recommendation was to re-examine your sources, cite your errant sources to blame for a colossal screw up.

Dr. Turley is a guy I respect immensely, but not all sources have expertise in all areas. And obviously Dr. Turley's forte is not electoral politics. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:02, November 10, 2022 (EST)

For example, Turley's been preaching "rightwing populism" sweeping Europe for 7 years now, and what have the "rightwing populists" done to limit immigration or stop European globalists from destroying their economies with Russian sanctions in the past 7 years? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:13, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Here is the fact you need to square up to: Talk of a Red wave, which I explicitly warned against, is probably what destroyed Donald Trump's hope to return to the White House. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:19, November 10, 2022 (EST)

The pandemic probably caused Trump and Bolsanaro to lose their reelection bids, but I frankly don't know much about Brazilian politics. The website https://electionbettingodds.com/ gives Trump a 17.8% chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in 2024. Conservative (talk) 00:58, November 11, 2022 (EST)

I am speaking of the demoralizing effects a focus on polls have, both pre-election and post-election. Polling data is caca. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:27, November 11, 2022 (EST)

From a professional perspective, look at the way a successful campaign is conducted. In 2008, Obama's win was a blow out. However prior to election day you did not see any hubris about a "Blue wave". Rather, we saw endless speculation over Will white males over 55 vote for a black man, etc. This is the proper way to conduct a campaign. "Wave" talk is for AFTER, I repeat AFTER, I repeat again AFTER an election. In fact, prior to election, it ought to be viewed suspiciously either as internal subversion, or naive and amateurish by people without understanding or regard of the consequences for failure. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:23, November 11, 2022 (EST)

Wave talk is like spiking the football and doing an endzone dance when you tie the score with 2 minutes to go, and the other team kicks a field goal in the final minutes. If I were a coach, I'd fine the player $5,000 for not following instructions. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:27, November 11, 2022 (EST)

As you read all the post mortems, they say the GOP did not put for forward an agenda or solutions. Exactly. Endless wave talk IS NOT an agenda or solution. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:34, November 11, 2022 (EST)

The GOP never explained to people how the Biden administration caused high inflation in the USA and how some other countries were faring better such as Switzerland. In addition, until recently, the GOP never made much of an effort to get schools/colleges to teach basic economics from a conservative point of view. Meanwhile, you had the MSM and the Biden administration talking about how inflation was happening "everywhere". For all his faults, Ross Perot did educate voters. Preparation is the key to winning battles. Conservative (talk) 14:44, November 11, 2022 (EST)

Wrong. People well understand Joe Biden, not Vladimir Putin, is responsible for inflation. The GOP never put forward proposals how to deal with it, or any other problem.

Lessons learned: a 75% Wrong track poll does not translate into a Red wave. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:50, November 11, 2022 (EST)

What you just said right here: "GOP never explained to people how the Biden administration caused high inflation" is "People are stupid and they believe Joe Biden lies". Hence, your high-profile and outspoken anti-Putinism aided Joe Biden and the Democrats. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:02, November 11, 2022 (EST)

Kellyanne Conway on the 2022 midterm elections

Biden is getting a little over-confident: Ex-Trump adviser. Kellyanne Conway says a red tide instead of a red wave happening in the 2022 midterm elections may be a long-term bigger gain because it will help an overconfident Joe Biden decide to run again in 2024. It is widely thought that Joe Biden will lose such an election. Conservative (talk) 19:18, November 10, 2022 (EST)

bla bla bla. Stop wasting time and space with irrelevant hypotheticals, and focus on the problems now. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:22, November 10, 2022 (EST)

No sane human being alive on the planet today expects Biden to run in 2024, let alone serve a second term. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:24, November 10, 2022 (EST)

Biden is weak, but his ego is big. I think he will run again. Conservative (talk)

Political polls vs. political betting markets. Which are more accurate?

• Political polls vs. political betting markets. Which are more accurate?

Neither. And our thinking should not be guided by either.

Lot in Sodom is probably the world's most famous pollster. And all it turned out to be was a big waste of time and it didn't persuade anybody. Then you have the instance where Pilot polled the crowd. The results evidently were intimidating to the minority. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:18, November 11, 2022 (EST)

The Narrative to Replace Donald Trump With the Shill Ron DeSantis is in Full Swing

[23] This was the point of delayed election results, to buy time for this narrative (psyop) to develop. The MAGA candidates in Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado ultimately will win, and there will be a MAGA wave. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:32, November 11, 2022 (EST)

While I personally wouldn't call DeSantis a "shill", he's unwittingly being used by anti-MAGA and GOPe forces to take down Trump AND the influence of the MAGA movement in the GOP. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:35, November 11, 2022 (EST)

Joe Kent: They are Trying to Break your Spirit - Psychological Warfare. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

MAGA talking points Update: It’s The Big Ugly, and We’re Here For It. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:14, November 11, 2022 (EST)

• Raheem Kassam of National Pulse on Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis show: My 'Must Watch' Explainer of Trump v. DeSantis and the 'Red Wave' Expectation Follies. (Kassem is a conservative commentator who was a former bodyguard for Margaret Thatcher). 93% of Trump-backed candidates win. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:38, November 11, 2022 (EST)
• Dick Morris: Don’t Blame Trump For Republican Failure. "Searching for a chance to scapegoat Donald Trump, the “Never Trumpers” have found a champion, they hope, in Ron DeSantis....If there is one man to blame for the Senate failures in 2022, it is Minority Leader Mitch McConnell." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:26, November 11, 2022 (EST)

Hanlon's razor is an adage or rule of thumb that states "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." If Arizona citizens or the citizens of any other state want speedy election results, they need to stop taking mail-in ballots up until the day of election like they do now. States with speedy election results do not take mail-in ballots past the Sunday (or so many days) before the election. My guess is that the pandemic has increased the number of mail-in ballots. Conservative (talk) 23:11, November 11, 2022 (EST)

• The Red Wave Is Real – It’s Just Being Slow-Rolled And Stolen – They Want You Demoralized. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:53, November 12, 2022 (EST)

• You’ve Been Gaslighted – Democrats Just Stole Another Election. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:07, November 12, 2022 (EST)

• Update: Twitter puts Conservativetreehouse link about "votes vs. ballots" on spam block list as a harmful site. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:30, November 16, 2022 (EST)

Roe v Wade turnout impact

As I said before and nobody believe me, overturning Roe v Wade would have huge impact on the midterms, and that what happened young girl turnout for Democrats was +37 --Alex Kosh (talk) 20:05, November 12, 2022 (EST)

That's insufficient data to make a judgement about. Compared to what? Voter turnout among inflation and crime victims? increased turnout among disgruntled Hispanics and other minorities who traditionally voted Democrat? So while you can say turnout increased among a certain segment, that differs from overall impact. Furthermore, it's a one-time impact on federal elections - cause these ill-informed voters don't understand that the repeal of Roe v. Wade kicked the issue back to the states. Roe v. Wade has never been an issue in the U.S. Congress, either before repeal or after - despite a half century of propaganda and billions spent on political advertising. All the repeal did was make it an issue that voters NOW can actually have an impact in state elections. They should be thankful, if anything, and not angry. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:33, November 12, 2022 (EST)

As you said ill-informed voters dont understand but they voted for Democrats who promised them that they will codify Roe v Wade. Democrats knew where can they focus their races, while incompetent GOP leader, McCarthy, McConnel, Emmer, Ducey and McDaniel were either focused in deep red districts or deep blue districts —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] [[User talk:{{{1}}}|(talk)]]

Well, more power to them if they know how to motivate people to the polls. The problem is the backlash, when voters realize they have been lied to persistently by a deceptive party. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:16, November 12, 2022 (EST)

Trump also has fair share to blame when he endorse bad candidate like Gessioto in Ohio or Hines in North Carolina, and endorsing who called Ultra MAGA candidates in swing districts against electoral juggernaut Democrats like J.R. Majewski focusing on primary more than general election --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:42, November 12, 2022 (EST)

What is Ultra MAGA? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:16, November 12, 2022 (EST)

I've been involved in GOP politics for more than half a century, and never heard the term. I have heard it used by a communist dictator and a controlled media, but am not sure what they are talking about. Any idea? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:23, November 12, 2022 (EST)

Commenting on what Steve Turley said, the purple states get much bluer and this is because of how many bad candidates there, Oz, Walker, Mastriano and Dixon werent good candidates.

However in big blue state like New York, there was really big red wave there due to energy of Lee Zeldin who was best GOP candidate in this cycle, even Chuck Schumer never had close race like this year, so what Steve Turley wasnt necessarily true. California, Iowa and Delaware there was Red wave as we can say and in Florida it was Red tsunami --Alex Kosh (talk) 20:14, November 12, 2022 (EST)

Points generally, and laughs

Schadenfreude is a helluva drug, man. The Trump indictment after Warnock dispatches Walker might just finish me off. ConwayIII (talk) 18:58, November 13, 2022 (EST)

The GOP is very much the odds on favorites to win a majority in the House of Representatives, although the Democrats still have a chance and a path to victory.[24][25] If the GOP has a majority in the House of Represenatives, it will be significantly harder for Joe Biden to move forward his legislative agenda. In addition, the GOP will spotlight Joe Biden's failures and scandals through investigations. In addition, if the GOP has a majority in the House of Represenatives, the Democrats will have much harder time moving forward their agenda.

In short, he who laughs last, laughs best. Conservative (talk) 19:44, November 13, 2022 (EST)

The Republicans need only 6 more House seats to have a majority in the House of Representatives and the Democrats need 15 more seats to have a majority.[26] The odds are still in the GOP's favor in this matter.[27] Conservative (talk) 05:40, November 14, 2022 (EST)

There you go again with your MSM talking points - you sound like Liz Cheney. The Red wave was supposed to wash them in a week ago. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:56, November 14, 2022 (EST)

The failure of Ben's editorial wishcasting is funny, but at least he's not writing bonkers fan fiction claiming the red tsunami actually happened. Zelensky called from Kherson btw. Said he's got plans for the winter. ConwayIII (talk) 15:55, November 14, 2022 (EST)

Yah, I know. The gestapo is cleaning up there. Zelensky got his marching orders from Washington, and now wants to talk peace as the U.S. pivots to Asia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:59, November 14, 2022 (EST)

btw, here's a Ukronazi giving the fascist salute, aired on CNN, to Zelensky and company as they enter Kherson. [28] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:37, November 14, 2022 (EST)

Now I've heard this argument before, "Rob, it's not really a Nazi salute cause it's done with the left hand." But then again, Nazis aren't very bright, and don't really follow any particular rule book. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:42, November 14, 2022 (EST)

Write in a moon base & I'll engage with your Ukrainian Nazi regime guff. Promise. (I may be persuadable re. a Hollow Earth lair with a seekrit entrance via Antarctica.) ConwayIII (talk) 17:37, November 15, 2022 (EST)

Prophecy is not easy, which reinforces why Bible prophecy was so remarkable. Many liberal experts have predicted for nearly a decade that Trump would not be the immense political influence that he is.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:03, November 14, 2022 (EST)

FWIW, I'm fully supportive of your efforts to further Trumpify the GOP. It's swing state magic, guaranteed.

And FAO Captain R. Cauldron-Smith (Ret.): Haha. No. Kiss goodbye to northern Luhansk as your boys try & hold the "land bridge". ConwayIII (talk) 19:14, November 14, 2022 (EST)

We'll all fry like bacon before that happens. Meanwhile, freezing refugees from Kyiv flee to freeze in Poland and Germany where they're no longer welcomed. Those who stay behind are knee deep in excrement and disease with no running water (same is happening in Kherson, I hear). But with an economy that's shrunk 90% with about a 90% unemployment rate, and its best soldiers long dead, good luck with those Polish, Canadian, and Vietnamese mercenaries on the Lugansk and Zaporozhye front (sure, they make $3,000 a month, but there's nothing to buy in Ukraine, inflation back home eats it all up, and I don't think they have any real loyalty to Ukraine, democracy, or Zelensky. Especially when they realize they're being sent on a suicide mission). The Biden junta evidently wants out [29] - they're crying "Uncle" long before Uncle Vovo ever did, who's only getting started. Papa Xi's already waiting for them, too. And since the Biden junta has to buy 152mm shells from South Korea for the howitzers it donated to Ukraine, it'll be a whole lot easier knocking out that source. Kim jong-un can do it without Uncle Vovo or Papa Xi rolling up their sleeves.

Face it, Blinken and Sullivan bit off a bit more than they can chew. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:56, November 14, 2022 (EST)

If the Dropbox Dems really think Trump helps their side, then they can vote to elect him Speaker of the House!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:44, November 14, 2022 (EST)

ConwayIII, have you read the essay: Donald Trump's glorious victories?

God works in mysterious ways. Just as Samson was not particularly religious, Trump is not particularly religious. Even if the Biden Admnistration imprisons Trump, he already took a wrecking ball to much of the American liberal temple. CNN, the fake news organization, is just a shadow of its former self. Facebook, run by Mr. Zucker who used a ton of Zuckerbucks to influence the 2020 election, is seeing his social media empire shrivel. As you may recall, Samson (who was imprisoned) eventually took down the Phlistine's Temple.

Even if Trump is not elected in 2024, or even if he is imprisoned which might make him stronger by making him a political martyr, Trumpism will live on. The working class is moving to the GOP and that includes Latinos and Black males.

Also, read the essays Andy Schlafly, Phyllis Schlafly and the Amish. All they do is win against secular leftists (Rap song) and Attention British, militant atheists! Brace yourself for the mighty, religious wave that is coming

Resistance is futile. And I trust this helps further clarify things for you. Conservative (talk) 07:51, November 15, 2022 (EST)

Robert Barnes: "Imagine if Putin run an election, and a week later they were still counting votes in Moscow." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:46, November 15, 2022 (EST)

New York Times sees Fetterman as a model

No, I am not kidding. This is the headline on today's NYT: "Democrats See a Blueprint in Fetterman's Victory in Pennsylvania." What's the "Fetterman blueprint"? First, you have a debilitating stroke. Keep the extent of your injuries secret until most mail-in ballots are already sent in. Then you let an AI program tell you what to say at the only debate. If anyone questions the ethics of this strategy, tell them they are phobic against people with disabilities. If that's not enough, find another homeless guy to attack Paul Pelosi. PeterKa (talk) 20:09, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Better yet, have the homeless who attacked Pelosi run for Senate. He seems representative of the people of California. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:02, November 13, 2022 (EST)

Jimmy Dore on the main page - Ukrainian giving Nazi salute during Ukrainian celebration parade over victory in Kherson.

I realize that Jimmy Dore is not a conservative comedian. But I laughed when Jimmy Dore said that the Ukrainian was hailing a cab and not giving a Nazi salute (see: CNN Banned From Ukraine After Showing N@zi Salute)

Funny is funny. I find Jimmy Dore to be a funny comedian even though he leans to left politically. I like his "stickin' it to the man" kind of comedy."Conservative (talk) 17:46, November 15, 2022 (EST)

My favorite is this one, "Son of a gun. It's a swastika!" He criticizes Reuters cuz it happened again right after Reuters did this one with the victorious Ukrainian troops who took Kharkov with paintball guns. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:23, November 16, 2022 (EST)

NBC News is the only legacy media company willing to admit that Ukraine has a significant Nazi problem. I agree with the NBC News article Ukraine's Nazi problem is real, even if Putin's 'denazification' claim isn't.

I believe that Putin went into Ukraine for various reasons (Ukraine was looking to join NATO which Putin/Kremlin didn't like, gas reserves found in Eastern Ukraine, Russian nationalists in Eastern Ukraine treated badly by Ukraine, Orange Revolution may have been largely/significantly instigated by CIA and Western NGOs, etc.). I don't think de-Nazisifiction is the big reason why Putin went into Ukraine. Ukraine has had a Nazi problem for some time. In addition, the Russians don't have a great reputation on how they treat Jews with their various pograms, etc. And I have met many Jews who fled Russia due to discrimination. Conservative (talk) 04:50, November 16, 2022 (EST)

This generation of Russians hasn't committed any pogroms, any more than you should have to pay reparations to African Americans for slavery. The legacy of both Czarism and Soviet Communism is, Russia has the most "tolerance for diversity" on the planet.

Putin went into Ukraine on February 24 because the NATO trained army had amassed 120,000 troops - half the Ukraine army at that time - along essentially what is the front line of contact right now. And that army, with NATO-backing, tanks and artillery, was set to begin rolling over civilians on March 8, who were defending themselves with a 40,000 man militia.

So while American media was echoing Biden DNI Avril Haines day-after-day since November 2021, screaming "Putin has amassed 120,000 troops on Ukraine's border!", it ignored Russian media and Putin saying "Ukraine has amassed 120,000 troops along the Donbas!" (all of this is a matter of cited record in Conservapedia), as well as the fact who those troops were, i.e. Nazis, and their record of atrocities for the past 8 years.

America engineered this war, and America wanted this war.

As to the Nazis, yes, they've been there a long time. But it was the US that empowered them in 2014. Like Jimmy Dore said, if you didn't like the Putin-backed regime, you vote them out. You don't hire a bunch of Nazis to kill people. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:24, November 16, 2022 (EST)

Go back and watch the Vladimir Pozner video. He says how the Russian people listened to America for many years talk about democracy. Then they gave in and tried it in 1991. Not 15 years later, under Obama and Victoria Nuland, America flushed "democracy" down the toilet by empowering the Nazis. They won't be fooled again. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:33, November 16, 2022 (EST)

Societies change slowly. A society can't "try" democracy, it has to fully commit to it and thoroughly educate its population. Conquered Germany and Japan were literally forced to practice democracy after WWII which is an irony of history. The USA was enough of a benevolent occupier of Germany and Japan that democracy took root. For example, Douglas MacArthur helped "the Japanese to recover from the aftermath of the war—poverty, starvation and despair."[30] Conservative (talk) 06:15, November 16, 2022 (EST)

As Vladimir Pozner said, why didn't America offer Russia a Marshall Plan after 1991? They did the fascist countries, but not Russia. Instead, they sent in all the globalist looters. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:31, November 16, 2022 (EST)

So let's ask: Why are Ukrainian schoolchildren taught to give the Nazi salute (by extension - "taught to hate")?

Answer: Cause since 1945, the Soviet Union came down hard on people who gave the Nazi salute, displayed Nazi insignia, or shared Nazi ideas. Likewise in Germany and much of all Central and Western Europe laws were passed against open displayal of Nazi symbols, Holocaust denial, etc. In the United States, we adopted "hate speech" laws since the 1970s. In Ukraine, the anti-extremist laws and enforcement remained in place after 1991. However, unlike Germany, the Nazi party was not outlawed, and various Nazi groups were elected to Parliament in the name of "democracy", albeit a minority.

In the years before the Maidan coup, the United States began emboldening these groups, and the "Russian-backed" government's secret police, the Bercut, became overwhelmed and could no longer deal with number of extremists (in the old days, the Bercut would just kidnap them, beat them up, and blacklist them from employment, kinda like the KGB did for many years.} The U.S. money pumped into Ukraine offered these blacklisted extremists income and employment, if they'd just do Western globalists dirty work and help overthrow the "Russia-backed regime".

So that's what you have today, a bunch of Russia haters who proudly wear the swastika, kinda like waving a red flag before a bull, whereas the whole Russian civilization of 130 ethnic groups have for centuries lived by the words, "we must love each other, or we must die." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:17, November 16, 2022 (EST)

Cleft countries, like Ukraine, are powderkegs. Trump handled the Russia/Ukrainian situation well. Biden/Harris did not. That's the sad truth of the situation. Conservative (talk) 06:21, November 16, 2022 (EST)

That's just it - the cleft country of Ukraine is an artificial creation. And the borders now will be redrawn. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:22, November 16, 2022 (EST)

And no, Trump did not handle it well - he was impeached over it. And he was accused of being a Russian stooge from day one, which destroyed his ability to govern. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 06:24, November 16, 2022 (EST)

The Democrats are an unreasonable lot who wanted to impeach at the drop of a hat. The whole Biden/Ukraine/bribery issue should have been investigated. "...to search out a matter is the glory of kings." - Proverbs 25:2. I realize that Trump was not a king, but he was head of state and the executive branch should investigate wrongdoing at the federal level.

Sometimes it takes time to resolve matters. It does look like there is a recession coming and Biden is very unpopular. A Republican president will likely be elected in 2024.[31][32]

Anyways, I am going to bow out of the conversation. I want to take care of some things before the beginning of the day. Conservative (talk) 06:36, November 16, 2022 (EST)

OMG, "A Republican president will likely be elected in 2024." Please please please, don't start that again. History is organic, let it play out. Even be part of it. But give up this gypsie fortune telling crap, please. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:57, November 16, 2022 (EST)

KFC asks customers to commemorate Kristallnacht with extra cheese on their chicken

I think this summarizes the level of ignorance, stupidity, thoughtlessness, self-absorption, and uncaring for an entire generation under the age of 35, from a fast-food cashier-clerk up to an advertising executive. They will learn on their own, since they obviously have rejected the traditions and values handed down to them from their parents. And Vladimir Putin will teach them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:52, November 16, 2022 (EST)

• "Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story
• Needed a new leader to restore its former glory
• Where, Oh where was he? Where could that man be?
• We looked around and then we found
• The man for you and me.
• And now it's...
• Springtime for Hitler and Germany
• Deutschland is happy and gay
• We're marching to a faster pace
• Look out, here comes the master race
• Springtime for Hitler and Germany
• Winter for Poland and France
• Springtime for Hitler and Germany
• Come on, Germans, go into your dance" - Springtime For Hitler - The Producers (1968)

• "I'm gonna crash Poland, And I'm gonna take over France, Ba-willy-gow, Ba-Ba-do-the-this, Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! I'm gonna take over Poland, And then I'm gonna crush France, Oh baby, whatcha know, Mama, And I'm gonna cross that English Channel, Wow! And then I'm gonna kick them cats in the pants, Pow! Pow! Pow!" - "I lieb you, I lieb you!" - The Producers, 1968 Conservative (talk) 15:13, November 17, 2022 (EST)

On the downlow, here's the type of 'Putin propaganda' the German's are waking up to now, and it offers a better explanation for what's happening to them now than the US/globalist media propaganda that controls them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:27, November 17, 2022 (EST)

The truth is, Germany and Russia are natural allies, like the US is with Canada or Mexico. But the US and UK (whom the Russians and Germans call "Angelo-Saxons") have kept them apart through two world wars,and now a third, the NATO war in Ukraine. A German-Russian alliance would dwarf the British Empire or American global hegemony. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:42, November 17, 2022 (EST)

Historically, the relationship between Russia and the Anglo-Saxons has been dependent on the status of Western Europe. They are ALWAYS allies whenever Western Europe is dominated by a third power (Napoleon, the Kaiser, Hitler, etc.), and they are ALWAYS enemies otherwise.

Right now, Western Europe is essentially a vassal of the US, the dominant Anglo-Saxon power. Thus, Russia and the Anglo-Saxons are destined to remain enemies until that balance of power is disrupted.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:25, November 17, 2022 (EST)

There is no reason Russia and Germany should not be close allies like the US & Mexico. Western powers, i.e. France & UK - not Germany, exploit the Poles, the Ukies, and Baltic states to sow tensions to prevent it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:24, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Germany would exploit the Poles, the Ukrainians, and the Baltic states in a heartbeat if it was in a position to do so, but right now it isn't. Two countries stand in the way of that: the United States and France. The former is the dominant power of Western Europe, and the latter is more than powerful enough to counter German influence-building in the region even without the American military presence. And as long as the German government remains committed to its post-1945 policy of demilitarization, it will stay that way. --Geopolitician (talk) 16:49, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Not so sure about that; NATO has assigned Lithuania as Germany's sphere of influence, not Poland. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:13, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Why do you think the Balts were so p-eed off about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact - they would rather have been on the Nazi side than the Soviet side during WWII. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:17, November 18, 2022 (EST)

And don't gimme this, 'they're as innocent as the driven snow' - they are sending Nazi reserves to Ukraine right now, tearing down Soviet war monuments to soldiers who defeated fascism, deny voting rights to Russians born in the Baltic states and treat them as second-class citizens. That's democracy, huh? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:21, November 18, 2022 (EST)

At the Wannsee Conference, Eichmann & Heydrich declared the Baltic states "Judenfrei", "Jew-free", meaning it wasn't a problem for them and they didn't have to allocate a lot of manpower there. Most of the Jews left long before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, and the local Nazis took care of the rest of them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:26, November 18, 2022 (EST)

The Einsatzgruppen had been running riot in the Balts for ~6 months before Wannsee, you utter cretin. ConwayIII (talk) 18:54, November 20, 2022 (EST)

That's what I just said, troll. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:37, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Schutzmannshaft. George Soros is probably the most famous, fingering his neighbors for Eichmann. The Ukrainian Teroborona performs the same function today. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:48, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Those augmenting the Orpo/Ordnungspolizei (Order Police) were designated Schutzmannschaft (Protective Detachment) and eventually numbered some hundreds of thousands. The Schutzmannschaft battalions, organized by nationality, Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Tatars. Each battalion had an authorized strength of about 500. Everywhere, local police far outnumbered the equivalent German personnel. For example, in the Brześć Litewski area, there were 26 German gendarmerie as opposed to 308 Belorussians. In the district of Baranowicze, there were 73 German gendarmerie and 816 native auxiliaries. By 1 July 1942, 18½ Ukrainian Schutzmannschaft battalions had been formed, with a further three battalions set up in Belarus mainly staffed by Ukrainians. Local police units were moved freely around the occupied countries to engage with partisans or to kill Jews.

The Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen just executed 39 more citizens. [33] The Russian Investigative Committees collecting evidence on the Nazi war criminals. [34] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:56, November 21, 2022 (EST)

No, that's not what you said. And if you weren't such an unspeakably lazy and feckless student of history, you'd've taken the seconds required to check Eichmann's Wannsee list and would know that a) only Estonia was declared judenfrei and b) he saw Lithuania as very much a work in progress (and one that required plenty of continued manpower). Primary sources ftw. ConwayIII (talk) 18:45, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I stand corrected on the question of the Vilnius ghetto. The point Eichmann was making was that the local Hiwis had already done their housecalls to villages. The whole purpose of the conference was to announce a change in policy: the Einsatzgruppen didn't need to make home visits anymore. People would be herded into ghettos for transport elsewhere. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:36, November 21, 2022 (EST)

And the main point stands: German-Lithuanian coordination and cooperation (let's call it gleichschaltung) in the military sphere has a more recent and deeper history than Polish-Lithuanian, unless you wanna count when the commie Nazi-hunters were in charge. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:35, November 21, 2022 (EST)

IOWs, when the public is finally informed that NATO is at war with Russia, it will be German, not neighboring Polish, American, UK, Canadian, Norwegian, French, Italian, Turkish or anybody else assigned to invade or occupy Lithuania. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:41, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Desperate companies do desperate things. The Christian-owned Chick-fil-A, Inc. gave KFC stiff competition.

And people wanting to avoid heart attacks, hypertension and cancer are now eating less fried chicken. KFC is one of the fast food chains and restaurant chains that are losing locations and market share. See: The Decline of KFC...What Happened?

KFC is not the first chicken chain to experience declining revenues and market share: Top 20 Iconic Fast Food Chains That Dont Exist Anymore.

KFC has a bit of an inspirational story. Colonel Harland Sanders, the original owner, was an ex-dish washer who was pretty broke at the age of 65. HERE is his inspirational story. You can also read about it at: The inspiring life story of KFC’s Colonel Sanders. Conservative (talk) 13:01, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Ahhh, we're not talking about KFC. We're talking about the insensitivity of a younger generation to the suffering of others and the facts of history. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:48, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Trudeau/Xi

The Trudeau/Xi clip is remarkable. Rarely have we ever seen a breakdown between two regimes in public like this. When Xi holds his hands up and says, "Let's create the conditions first", he's saying "I no longer trust you, and have no reason to trust you." So how does the Trudeau regime re-establish dialogue? They can't, so long as the Trudeau regime remains in power.

Incredible, Trudeau once praised the Chinese dictatorship in public. The question is, How many years does an idiotic voting constituency want to waste before realizing they are governed by a pathetic fool and liar, or an incompetent opposition to to dispose of Trudeau? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:33, November 17, 2022 (EST)

I think this is newsworthy for the main page

https://www.liveaction.org/news/mobile-abortion-vans-churches/ There's no low that pro-death demmywhacks won't sink to. Shobson20 (talk) 23:41, November 17, 2022 (EST)

Can you find an article mainspace to add it to first? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:17, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Hakeem Jeffries

In the last election, the Dems got significant mileage from their "threat to democracy"/"election denier" routine. But they don't believe a word of it. How do we know? Their top candidate for House leader claimed that Trump's election, his nominees for Supreme Court, and the opinions they reached are all "illegitmate." The appalling part is that he is a "centrist" among House Democrats. See "What Democrats Don't Want You to Know About Hakeem Jeffries." PeterKa (talk) 06:19, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Prediction: Kevin Mccarthy will hold a weekly press conference, but the Dem leader will hold daily conferences, dominating news headlines and shaping narratives. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:19, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Here's what GOP politicians and leadership don't understand: reporters and news organizations have daily deadlines, so you have to throw them a bone everyday to keep them employed. Dems understand this and make friends by playing along. Republicans are so afraid of negative publicity and being caught in a trap, they run away.

When Boehner, Ryan and Hastert were Speakers, they rarely spoke to the press, only when some pressing emergency arose or a weekly scheduled conference where the spoke about nothing of interest. Whereas Pelosi as Minority Leader still had daily conferences, if only to trash GOP leadership and presidents and boast about what she would do if she were king of the forest. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:43, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Trump Back On Twitter

Urgent: Add To In The News

BREAKING: Trump back on Twitter.--TheNewRight (talk) 20:33, November 19, 2022 (EST)

This is bad news for Trump; he invested what, $20 or $40 million in Truth Social? Now he has to layoff Devin Nunes and Kash Patal?... RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:36, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Still, this is a massive setback for censorship and a victory for free speech.--TheNewRight (talk) 20:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Trump is not interested in tweeting at this time. Maybe he will later when it is closer to the presidential election. Conservative (talk) 11:15, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Bakhmut

Putin may have lost Izium and Kherson, but he's betting the farm on another offensive, this time against Bakhmut. It hard to see how this idea can work out to his benefit. If Russia takes the city, it will be oligarch and Wagner Group boss Yevgeny Prigozhin who gets the credit. That can't be what Putin wants since Prigozhin is a loose canon who publicly criticizes the regular army and is already being mentioned as an alternative to Putin. The plan to take Bakhmut was drawn up as half of a pincer movement back when Russia held Izium. Now its one hand clapping. If Russia is in a position to take Bakhmut, why did it give up Kherson? The terrain worked against Russia in Kherson, but that is also true in Bakhmut. The Ukrainian artillery is firing from behind hills, a tactic called defilade. Perhaps Putin has been reduced to desperately hoping for a win somewhere, anywhere like Hitler in the Battle of Bulge. Bakhmut is a center of salt production. In Peter the Great's day, people built fortresses and fought battles to control the salt trade. PeterKa (talk) 15:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)

The Battle of Atremorsk (Ukrainian: Bakhmut) has been going on all summer. Bakhmut, on the high ground is the key to the whole Donbass front. Avdiivka, about 30 km outside Donetsk is the big problem. Avdivvka has been shelling Donetsk for 8 years, killing civilians. Avdiivka is dug in like the North Korea Demilitarized Zone.

The pincer movement from Bakhmut will head south against Avdivvka (in addition to being able to retake the Russian cities of Kramatorsk to the NW, and a defensive movement to protect Lysychansk).

(left) Existing Kherson border (right) proposed new border by the Zelensky regime. [35]

As to Kherson, the Ukies are currently evacuating the other half of the population which did not evacuate to Russia already. Apparently, at one point or other, one side or the other will finally destroy the Nova Kakohova dam and create a new border 15 kilometers wide using the Dnieper River between Russia and whatever is left of Ukraine or the "Polish Ukraine Commonwealth". This would leave the Russian city of Odessa under Ukrainian occupation. Kherson, like the ancient Egyptian city of Thebes when UUSR built the Aswan dam, will forever be underwater. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:24, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Meantime, your sources are crap, and your spewing Nazi bs. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:25, November 21, 2022 (EST)

The Russian objective is to destroy Ukraine/NATO military, not capture territory. The Russians will cede territory to lay a trap for a miliary that thinks it's all about capturing territory. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:27, November 21, 2022 (EST)

As to Ulegedar on the Zaporozhye line, you have the same problem. It sits on the high ground, NATO/Ukraine has transferred about 40,000 troops from the Kherson front to Ulegedar and all along the Donbas front. From a military/strategic perspective, the best strategy is to try to invade Russia from Ulegedar and capture Mariupol, splitting Russian forces in half. This not only is the most practical and strategic move, it's also the most dangerous and idiotic. It would guarantee Poland, Ramstein, Brussels, London, Washington, and probably New York getting nuked if it even came close to any success. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:36, November 21, 2022 (EST)

PeterKa, Kherson is on the Western side of river and the Ukrainians attacked a bridge so it was difficult to feed a supply line to from the Eastern side. The Russians were smart to give it up because they were not using it to attack another place. "The history of war proves that nine out of ten times an army has been destroyed because its supply lines have been cut off...” - General Douglas MacArthur Conservative (talk) 15:47, November 21, 2022 (EST)

The city of Kherson likely will be no more, with the new border 15 km behind it.

Oh, and the idiot from the Military and Foreign Affairs Network was wrong. He said the subways of Kharkov would create problems for Russia in an urban environment with their ability to move troops around. Duh, the subways are electric. And these are the idiots who've been giving their "expert" analysis since February.

Frankly, I'm really getting tired and losing patience over listening to this Nazi bs and propaganda we've been subjected to since February. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:52, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Nearly all the Nazis are dead and buried. Now there are neo-Nazis. Conservative (talk) 16:01, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Nah, these are old school Nazis the US supports in their beliefs and value system. Neo-Nazis are just wannabees. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)

WAGNER CAPTURED UKRO-NAZI INTELLIGENCE OFFICER - SPEAKS ABOUT HIS LOVE FOR HITLER AND NAZIS.

I can't wait to see Biden, Jake Sullivan, and Jens Stoltenberg explain themselves to this group of interrogators. They'll get a fair hearing and trial. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:44, November 21, 2022 (EST)

AMERICAN MERCENARY RETURNED FROM UKRAINE - HAS VERY EYE OPENING WORDS ABOUT HIS SERVICE THERE. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:55, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Kherson was probably an original "Potemkin Village". Potemkin was buried there. The Russians took the stature to Catherine the Great, who founded the city, and Potemkin's bones with them. What does that tell you? They were (legitimately) afraid of Nazi vandalism, or they plan on destroying the dam and burying alive 25,000 NATO troops? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:14, November 21, 2022 (EST)

TL;DR regarding all the recent extensive updates filled with jargon. I caught up with the news on the rocket attack in Poland which was evidently perpetrated by the Ukrainian puppet government. What else is going on in the war between Russo-imperialists and Ukrofascists? —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 16:23, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Na-zilensky is on the way out; if his Nazi bodyguards don't get him first, he's soon to take his looted millions and flee. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:27, November 21, 2022 (EST)

That reminds me, it's funny that most leftists think it's "antisemitic" to highlight Zelensky's evil ties simply because of his Jewish heritage. It's essentially a variation of the "friend argument," akin to their other forms of left-wing deception like "Margaret Sanger had black friends" or "BLM is supported by Jewish organizations." This op-ed in The Times of Israel brilliantly summarizes the matter. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Monday, 16:33, November 21, 2022 (EST)

The guy who plotted the Final Solution was Jewish. So is Soros.

I've been reluctant to add the poop I got on Na-ziensky's successor, Valerii Zaluzhnyi. He has girlfriends all over Ukraine 20 years younger as he rides around pretending to be commander-in-chief, but it'll just be accused of being Russian propaganda. By the time Mark Milley and Biden regime hail him as the courageous new leader and defender of democracy, we should have some more sourcing. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:37, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Can you elaborate on who you're referring to when you say "The guy who plotted the Final Solution was Jewish?"--Geopolitician (talk) 01:30, November 23, 2022 (EST)

Heydrich. But I don't want to get into a lengthy back and forth rehash of the evidence. I base my judgement and opinion on the fact that he believed it was so. I'm not trying to force my view or opinion on the matter on anyone, as I realize it is controversial. I don't believe there is any reference to it in his CP bio, and if it appears someday, I would carefully make sure all opposing views were represented, and allow readers to make their own considered judgement, and not impose my own opinion on the matter, which is exactly that, a considered judgment and opinion based upon years of extensive reading on the subject. As I said, I believe it cause I believe he believed it, which means both of us could be wrong. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:50, November 23, 2022 (EST)

Polish Man Tells Zelensky What He Thinks About His Falseflag.

Here's the glorious thing about modern social media and internet - we don't have to have ideas and discussion filtered through MSM and intelligence services - we can get an inkling of public opinion and reaction directly from the horse's mouth. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:33, November 22, 2022 (EST)

In case anyone here cares, Bakhmut is easy to explain. Wagner has a contract with the Russian gov. that stipulates a price per formation (men + materiel, etc.) delivered into action. PMCs obviously exist to make money, so there'll always be a healthy margin attached and, if tactical / strategic results are factored in at all, it'll be in the form of bonus payments, rather than any scaling / clawback on the (profitable) basic rate.

tl;dr: Prigozhin makes money whether or not these formations get obliterated or achieve anything militarily useful, so it's always in his interest to keep recruiting & feeding the meatgrinder.

Helluva way to make a living. ConwayIII (talk) 18:16, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Oh, maybe Russia was better off before it introduced capitalism and the profit motive? Is that what you're saying? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:23, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I don't know what you're complaining about. Wagner mercs make a little under $1,000 a month. NATO mercs make $3,000 (unless they're from Africa, then about $2,000}. What? It's unholy for Russians to pay $1,000 a month but sacred for the US Congress through Zelensky to pay $3,000? Oh, I forget, I'm speaking with a Russophobic bigots. Pardon me. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:57, November 25, 2022 (EST)

Update: The 58th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade of Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut, said they were in a desperate situation against invading Russian forces of PMC Wagner Group. The unit appealed to Volodymyr Zelenskyy as the president of Ukraine and to Valeriy Fezerevich as Commander-in-Chief of the National Security Service to solve their problem. Sources posted on social media on November 24, they withdrew from their assigned positions despite the danger during the execution of orders. But they stepped back from their positions to protect their lives.

UKROIDS IN BAKHMUT EXPERIENCE EARLY RUSSIAN CHRISTMAS. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:53, November 24, 2022 (EST)

Update: A lot of war news happening today. You won't be able to catch up by Monday. Nobody told them today is holiday, or tomorrow Black Friday, or the weekend is for rest. By Monday when MSM and intelligence propagandists start broadcasting their cover stories for how the situation has changed, it'll be unrecognizable from how Westerners think they understand the war now. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:15, November 24, 2022 (EST)

Bakhmut update: Prigozhin has pretty well spelled out to the Ukraine public what the objective in Bakhmut is: another Verdun. So, let's say the troops recruited from prison cannot sustain a kill ratio of 7:1 that the Russians have enjoyed since February, and that falls to 5:1. The Ukrainian public already knows they cannot win a war of attrition against Russia, but Russia's throwing its human garbage from prison into the fight, and Ukraine now will be losing its upstanding citizens, fathers and grandfathers (cause the flower of the nation has already been lost) into the fight. Is it worth losing 5 dads for every one Russian prison con, murderer, or drug addict? You decide. Zelensky doesn't care, and it's all being done on your dime. But the Russians are willing to go all winter at it, while the US and NATO are out of weapons and ammunition (even before the big fight at Taiwan starts). So, we can keep printing dollar bills for Zelensky to kickback into Democrat campaign coffers, to sign MIC contracts for delivery in 2 or 3 years, and continue to destroy the US, European, and your own personal economic situation. Or you can repent, come to Jesus, and say "I will not support Nazism any longer." It's a decision each one of us must make. The outcome is dependent on you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:16, November 28, 2022 (EST)

Oh, and when Prigozhin takes over, you're going to long for the days of Putin. He doesn't like Nazis any more than Stalin of Putin did, least of all Nazis like Robert Mueller. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:18, November 28, 2022 (EST)

Update: Alexander Mercouris responds to MSM racist attacks alleging Ukrainian democracy defenders against Russian asiatic hordes. [36]

Reading the tea leaves

Notorious Nazi bigot and holocaust denier, former Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andriy Melnyk, [37] was recalled from Berlin to Kyiv back in July. Melynk now has been promoted to Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine. [38]

Rather than being disciplined for outrageous conduct, [39] he's been promoted.

Interpretation: As Ukraine is on the ropes, the Nazis in the regime are gaining strength and power internally in the government. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:07, November 24, 2022 (EST)

So, Mark Milley has disassociated himself from the deadenders like Sullivan, Blinken, Zelensky, Melnyk, BoJo, Ursula von der Leyen and other Nazis who want to die with the Fuhrer in the bunker. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:22, November 24, 2022 (EST)

What would have happened, can you imagine, if Hitler suddenly called timeout and asked for peace talks when the Russians were 30 miles outside Berlin? A point is crossed in war were talking doesn't matter or happen anymore, and when NATO sets up a "Russian regime-in-exile", that pretty much invokes Russia's own nuclear doctrine allowing a first nuclear strike when existence of the state is threatened. Say goodbye to the European Union, Putin's putative successor has formally dissolved it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:35, November 24, 2022 (EST)

Oh, but you say, 'That was 1945. With modern weapons and technology, no way could Russia ever march 2,400 miles from Stalingrad to Berlin.' See how Western propaganda has rotted your mind? And they don't have to march or occupy Berlin. With modern weapons and technology, there are other ways to deal with Brussels or the Pentagon. Bakhmut is nothing. And talking has stopped. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:41, November 24, 2022 (EST)

You might have a point re. attrition if your boys could have mustered a kill ratio anywhere near 1:1, never mind your crazy numbers. Instead, the cream & most of the fresh milk of the Russian army has already been poured out into the soil of Ukraine, and what's left has curdled into something so toxic and ineffectual that no amount of topping-up is going to restore it as an effective fighting force in the next few years.

Mobilise all you want. You can't train them up. You can't properly equip them. You can't even reliably provide adequate food, clothing & shelter. This winter is going to kill so many mobiks so quickly that we might even see some serious goodwill gestures in time for the Russian Orthodox Christmas. ConwayIII (talk) 19:30, November 28, 2022 (EST)

You're obviously another victim of ISW propaganda. Go ahead, try and plead that before a de-nazification tribunal, see how far it gets you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:21, November 28, 2022 (EST)

Time to uphold Conservapedia Commandment #5

Per the commandments: "Do not post personal opinion on an encyclopedia entry. Opinions can be posted on Talk:pages or on debate or discussion pages. Advertisements are prohibited.".

Why is one particular administrator constantly intent on advertising his own essays on MPR? It directly violates the rules, pollutes the Main Page news flow with unnecessary spam, and is repetitive to the point of senselessly vain due to the same "read our essay" slogan. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 20:43, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I like this idea. We should form Conservapedia:Fact Check Committee. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:10, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I nominate myself as Chief Fact Checker. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:12, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I understand your criticism. Scarcely a day goes by without an attack on the United Kingdom. And what's the chief source for factual information? The Encyclopedia Britannica, from the land of Darwin and rot. Surely there are viable alternative sources of authoritive information coming from other than the land of gay buffets and salad bars? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:24, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Yes, a fact-checking committee would be excellent; I second your nomination as chief fact checker. And the main reason that particular administrator is so heavily antagonizing the UK is because that's the home country of one atheist he wants to hurt the feelings of. Perhaps he should instead abide by the messages of Christ and partake in the Great Commission through decency and tolerance. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 21:29, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I just don't understand how the Encyclopedia Brittanica is such an authoritive source coming from the land Darwin. I think it's only cited cause he thinks its an alternative to Wikipedia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:34, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Wow, so he will cite almost anything that's not Wikipedia? What next? I mean, just imagine if he went to the point of competing with Social Darwinists on their own ground by citing junk "science" to disparage particular groups of people as "mutants" and almost insinuate them with inferiority. Oh wait, he already did that. Given that Conservapedia's article on Liberal deems bigotry to be a liberal trait, I guess that means the said administrator is thus an ultra-liberal due to his immense bigotry. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 21:39, November 21, 2022 (EST)

(ec) Both my parents were teachers, and I learned from them the hardest task on the planet is to teach someone how to think. It took me years to master the basics of how to think, let alone try to teach someone else. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:43, November 21, 2022 (EST)

And no, it's not that he'll cite anything, it's an appeal to authority or argument from authority, a phrase or concept he picked up in one of his many logic classes arguments with ratrolls. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:46, November 21, 2022 (EST)

He's basically saying Britanica is superior to Wikipedia as an instant internet source, while at the same time arguing that anything that comes out of Britian is defiled and corrupt because of Darwin. So where does that leave America? We have Conservapedia, but he's not picking up the challenge to make it authoritive. Nor the interest to do so. Only attacking his perceived personal enemies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:51, November 21, 2022 (EST)

And it wouldn't be so easy to paraphrase his content contributions if he wasn't so dang repetitious and redundant. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:54, November 21, 2022 (EST)

[EC] Yeah, his screeds are regurgitated, really don't make much sense, and lack consistency. I suppose by the standards of Conservapedia, he's only exemplifying more liberal traits to the point of reaching pinko commie levels. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 22:00, November 21, 2022 (EST)

(ec) Take myself, for example; I'm the guy known far and wide in the wiki world as the guy who tried to rehabilitate McCarthyism which labeled innocent people "Russian stooges" with my Wikipedia Venona project series; now anyone who tries to label me as a "Russian stooge" is an expression of their own ignorance. I speak from authority. So as an "author", the root word of "authority", redundancy is one of your worst enemies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)

You and I discussed the other day how defunding the war means splitting the Patriot Movement between gung ho flag waving redneck killers and peaceniks. He's afraid to confront this question head on, which doesn't bode well for innocent Ukrainian citizens slain by a corrupt regime and U.S. tax dollars. He doesn't recognize the leader of the anti-globalist gay agenda movement, Mr. Vladimir Putin. He's content to go along with the liberal crowd. His Homosexual agenda and Atheism articles has garnered 14 million views, yet he's content to go along with atheists and gays in their demonization of Putin. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:22, November 21, 2022 (EST)

That's because he's a Protestant supremacist. People like him view apostolic sects like Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Church of the East with such contempt that he'd gladly align with non-Christian and even anti-Christian movements against them out of spite.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:38, November 23, 2022 (EST)

The Europeans are dragging us into supporting another war in Europe. As such, some healthy criticism of the UK/Europe is warranted. If nobody criticizes the Europeans, perhaps they will never reform themselves. Andy Schlafly has criticized the Brits in the past. Was he wrong in doing so? I don't think so! Conservative (talk) 02:43, November 23, 2022 (EST)

The US started the war in Europe with the fascist overthrow of a democratic government. The US forced Europe to accept American sanctions on Russia, or be faced with the same sanctions. The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline, causing fuel shortages, high energy prices, inflation, bankruptcies, and unemployment in Europe. The US has provided $65 billion in weapons and aid, keeping a defeated, zombie regime alive. The EU has contributed only $3 billion.

You are poorly informed, my friend. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:06, November 23, 2022 (EST)

• "The Europeans are dragging us into supporting another war in Europe."

This statement is a blatant, bald face falsehood. The facts are exactly the opposite. The United States dragged Europe into a war with Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:44, November 24, 2022 (EST)

Victoria Nuland said as much when the United States overthrew a democratically elected government that started the war: "F*** the EU." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:47, November 24, 2022 (EST)

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Ultimately, the Ukrainians chose to wish to join NATO which was like waving a red cape in front of the Russian bull. Furthermore, nobody has more influence on Ukrainian politics than the Ukrainians. For example, if the Ukrainians make bad political choices in terms of their voting, it is partly the fault of their weak educational system (In 2021, the Ukrainian educational was ranked 40th in the world[40] In 2010, the British economist Frances Cairncross stated "Ukrainian education is too inward-looking, too corrupt and too poor to do a good job".). To use an analogy, the American educational system is weak and spends to much time indoctrinating people into liberalism/leftism/wokism and that aids the Democrats.

In addition, bullies attack weaklings. One of the big reasons why the bully Vladimir Putin attacked Ukraine is that their closest geographic allies the Europeans are weak. Given that the USA has its historical roots in Europe, I am sad to say that many Europeans are effete, liberal/leftist, godless pantywaists who are shortsighted and became too dependent on Russian oil and gas (See also: Atheism and cowardice and Atheism and mental toughness and Atheism and foolishness). The psalmist David declared: "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good." — Psalms 14:1 (ESV) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Conservative (talk) [41]

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P.S. The Brit who formerly was my biggest detractor on the internet is an agnostic and not an atheist. Anyways, I am not going to write about him further and in all likelihood he is going to do likewise concerning me. Conservative (talk) 03:03, November 23, 2022 (EST)

Regardless, now that I have finished my essay series on the Russia-Ukraine War, I don't expect to post a lot about the UK or Europe for a considerable amount of time. When something is in decline, perhaps it is best to largely ignore it and let it slip into the sea. Such is the case with the SS UK and SS Europe (See: Decline of Europe). But I will not completely give up the idea of hope or future prayers for Europe. Sometimes people/nations have to experience a lot of pain and hit bottom before they sober up and repent. Conservative (talk) 03:17, November 23, 2022 (EST)

The Apostle Paul quoted a prominent Cretan to upbraid the Cretans (Titus, 1:12–14). So I feel perfectly fine quoting the Encyclopedia Britannica as far as the collapse of the British Empire. Conservative (talk) 03:27, November 23, 2022 (EST)

As far as the charge that I am a "Protestant supremacist", there are some good things the very conservative Catholics (Like Latin Mass), Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Church of the East are doing right that many Protestants and conservative Protestants are not doing. But on the whole, I believe more good fruit has come out of the conservative Protestants than other branches of Christianity (See: Protestant cultural legacies). Conservative (talk) 03:38, November 23, 2022 (EST)

KFC asks customers to commemorate Kristallnacht with extra cheese on their chicken

I think this summarizes the level of ignorance, stupidity, thoughtlessness, self-absorption, and uncaring for an entire generation under the age of 35, from a fast-food cashier-clerk up to an advertising executive. They will learn on their own, since they obviously have rejected the traditions and values handed down to them from their parents. And Vladimir Putin will teach them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:52, November 16, 2022 (EST)

• "Germany was having trouble, what a sad, sad story
• Needed a new leader to restore its former glory
• Where, Oh where was he? Where could that man be?
• We looked around and then we found
• The man for you and me.
• And now it's...
• Springtime for Hitler and Germany
• Deutschland is happy and gay
• We're marching to a faster pace
• Look out, here comes the master race
• Springtime for Hitler and Germany
• Winter for Poland and France
• Springtime for Hitler and Germany
• Come on, Germans, go into your dance" - Springtime For Hitler - The Producers (1968)

• "I'm gonna crash Poland, And I'm gonna take over France, Ba-willy-gow, Ba-Ba-do-the-this, Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! I'm gonna take over Poland, And then I'm gonna crush France, Oh baby, whatcha know, Mama, And I'm gonna cross that English Channel, Wow! And then I'm gonna kick them cats in the pants, Pow! Pow! Pow!" - "I lieb you, I lieb you!" - The Producers, 1968 Conservative (talk) 15:13, November 17, 2022 (EST)

On the downlow, here's the type of 'Putin propaganda' the German's are waking up to now, and it offers a better explanation for what's happening to them now than the US/globalist media propaganda that controls them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:27, November 17, 2022 (EST)

The truth is, Germany and Russia are natural allies, like the US is with Canada or Mexico. But the US and UK (whom the Russians and Germans call "Angelo-Saxons") have kept them apart through two world wars,and now a third, the NATO war in Ukraine. A German-Russian alliance would dwarf the British Empire or American global hegemony. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:42, November 17, 2022 (EST)

Historically, the relationship between Russia and the Anglo-Saxons has been dependent on the status of Western Europe. They are ALWAYS allies whenever Western Europe is dominated by a third power (Napoleon, the Kaiser, Hitler, etc.), and they are ALWAYS enemies otherwise.

Right now, Western Europe is essentially a vassal of the US, the dominant Anglo-Saxon power. Thus, Russia and the Anglo-Saxons are destined to remain enemies until that balance of power is disrupted.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:25, November 17, 2022 (EST)

There is no reason Russia and Germany should not be close allies like the US & Mexico. Western powers, i.e. France & UK - not Germany, exploit the Poles, the Ukies, and Baltic states to sow tensions to prevent it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:24, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Germany would exploit the Poles, the Ukrainians, and the Baltic states in a heartbeat if it was in a position to do so, but right now it isn't. Two countries stand in the way of that: the United States and France. The former is the dominant power of Western Europe, and the latter is more than powerful enough to counter German influence-building in the region even without the American military presence. And as long as the German government remains committed to its post-1945 policy of demilitarization, it will stay that way. --Geopolitician (talk) 16:49, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Not so sure about that; NATO has assigned Lithuania as Germany's sphere of influence, not Poland. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:13, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Why do you think the Balts were so p-eed off about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact - they would rather have been on the Nazi side than the Soviet side during WWII. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:17, November 18, 2022 (EST)

And don't gimme this, 'they're as innocent as the driven snow' - they are sending Nazi reserves to Ukraine right now, tearing down Soviet war monuments to soldiers who defeated fascism, deny voting rights to Russians born in the Baltic states and treat them as second-class citizens. That's democracy, huh? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:21, November 18, 2022 (EST)

At the Wannsee Conference, Eichmann & Heydrich declared the Baltic states "Judenfrei", "Jew-free", meaning it wasn't a problem for them and they didn't have to allocate a lot of manpower there. Most of the Jews left long before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, and the local Nazis took care of the rest of them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:26, November 18, 2022 (EST)

The Einsatzgruppen had been running riot in the Balts for ~6 months before Wannsee, you utter cretin. ConwayIII (talk) 18:54, November 20, 2022 (EST)

That's what I just said, troll. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:37, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Schutzmannshaft. George Soros is probably the most famous, fingering his neighbors for Eichmann. The Ukrainian Teroborona performs the same function today. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:48, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Those augmenting the Orpo/Ordnungspolizei (Order Police) were designated Schutzmannschaft (Protective Detachment) and eventually numbered some hundreds of thousands. The Schutzmannschaft battalions, organized by nationality, Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians and Tatars. Each battalion had an authorized strength of about 500. Everywhere, local police far outnumbered the equivalent German personnel. For example, in the Brześć Litewski area, there were 26 German gendarmerie as opposed to 308 Belorussians. In the district of Baranowicze, there were 73 German gendarmerie and 816 native auxiliaries. By 1 July 1942, 18½ Ukrainian Schutzmannschaft battalions had been formed, with a further three battalions set up in Belarus mainly staffed by Ukrainians. Local police units were moved freely around the occupied countries to engage with partisans or to kill Jews.

The Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen just executed 39 more citizens. [42] The Russian Investigative Committees collecting evidence on the Nazi war criminals. [43] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:56, November 21, 2022 (EST)

No, that's not what you said. And if you weren't such an unspeakably lazy and feckless student of history, you'd've taken the seconds required to check Eichmann's Wannsee list and would know that a) only Estonia was declared judenfrei and b) he saw Lithuania as very much a work in progress (and one that required plenty of continued manpower). Primary sources ftw. ConwayIII (talk) 18:45, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I stand corrected on the question of the Vilnius ghetto. The point Eichmann was making was that the local Hiwis had already done their housecalls to villages. The whole purpose of the conference was to announce a change in policy: the Einsatzgruppen didn't need to make home visits anymore. People would be herded into ghettos for transport elsewhere. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:36, November 21, 2022 (EST)

And the main point stands: German-Lithuanian coordination and cooperation (let's call it gleichschaltung) in the military sphere has a more recent and deeper history than Polish-Lithuanian, unless you wanna count when the commie Nazi-hunters were in charge. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:35, November 21, 2022 (EST)

IOWs, when the public is finally informed that NATO is at war with Russia, it will be German, not neighboring Polish, American, UK, Canadian, Norwegian, French, Italian, Turkish or anybody else assigned to invade or occupy Lithuania. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:41, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Desperate companies do desperate things. The Christian-owned Chick-fil-A, Inc. gave KFC stiff competition.

And people wanting to avoid heart attacks, hypertension and cancer are now eating less fried chicken. KFC is one of the fast food chains and restaurant chains that are losing locations and market share. See: The Decline of KFC...What Happened?

KFC is not the first chicken chain to experience declining revenues and market share: Top 20 Iconic Fast Food Chains That Dont Exist Anymore.

KFC has a bit of an inspirational story. Colonel Harland Sanders, the original owner, was an ex-dish washer who was pretty broke at the age of 65. HERE is his inspirational story. You can also read about it at: The inspiring life story of KFC’s Colonel Sanders. Conservative (talk) 13:01, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Ahhh, we're not talking about KFC. We're talking about the insensitivity of a younger generation to the suffering of others and the facts of history. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:48, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Trudeau/Xi

The Trudeau/Xi clip is remarkable. Rarely have we ever seen a breakdown between two regimes in public like this. When Xi holds his hands up and says, "Let's create the conditions first", he's saying "I no longer trust you, and have no reason to trust you." So how does the Trudeau regime re-establish dialogue? They can't, so long as the Trudeau regime remains in power.

Incredible, Trudeau once praised the Chinese dictatorship in public. The question is, How many years does an idiotic voting constituency want to waste before realizing they are governed by a pathetic fool and liar, or an incompetent opposition to to dispose of Trudeau? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:33, November 17, 2022 (EST)

I think this is newsworthy for the main page

https://www.liveaction.org/news/mobile-abortion-vans-churches/ There's no low that pro-death demmywhacks won't sink to. Shobson20 (talk) 23:41, November 17, 2022 (EST)

Can you find an article mainspace to add it to first? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:17, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Hakeem Jeffries

In the last election, the Dems got significant mileage from their "threat to democracy"/"election denier" routine. But they don't believe a word of it. How do we know? Their top candidate for House leader claimed that Trump's election, his nominees for Supreme Court, and the opinions they reached are all "illegitmate." The appalling part is that he is a "centrist" among House Democrats. See "What Democrats Don't Want You to Know About Hakeem Jeffries." PeterKa (talk) 06:19, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Prediction: Kevin Mccarthy will hold a weekly press conference, but the Dem leader will hold daily conferences, dominating news headlines and shaping narratives. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:19, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Here's what GOP politicians and leadership don't understand: reporters and news organizations have daily deadlines, so you have to throw them a bone everyday to keep them employed. Dems understand this and make friends by playing along. Republicans are so afraid of negative publicity and being caught in a trap, they run away.

When Boehner, Ryan and Hastert were Speakers, they rarely spoke to the press, only when some pressing emergency arose or a weekly scheduled conference where the spoke about nothing of interest. Whereas Pelosi as Minority Leader still had daily conferences, if only to trash GOP leadership and presidents and boast about what she would do if she were king of the forest. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:43, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Trump Back On Twitter

Urgent: Add To In The News

BREAKING: Trump back on Twitter.--TheNewRight (talk) 20:33, November 19, 2022 (EST)

This is bad news for Trump; he invested what, $20 or $40 million in Truth Social? Now he has to layoff Devin Nunes and Kash Patal?... RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:36, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Still, this is a massive setback for censorship and a victory for free speech.--TheNewRight (talk) 20:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Trump is not interested in tweeting at this time. Maybe he will later when it is closer to the presidential election. Conservative (talk) 11:15, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Time to uphold Conservapedia Commandment #5

Per the commandments: "Do not post personal opinion on an encyclopedia entry. Opinions can be posted on Talk:pages or on debate or discussion pages. Advertisements are prohibited.".

Why is one particular administrator constantly intent on advertising his own essays on MPR? It directly violates the rules, pollutes the Main Page news flow with unnecessary spam, and is repetitive to the point of senselessly vain due to the same "read our essay" slogan. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 20:43, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I like this idea. We should form Conservapedia:Fact Check Committee. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:10, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I nominate myself as Chief Fact Checker. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:12, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I understand your criticism. Scarcely a day goes by without an attack on the United Kingdom. And what's the chief source for factual information? The Encyclopedia Britannica, from the land of Darwin and rot. Surely there are viable alternative sources of authoritive information coming from other than the land of gay buffets and salad bars? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:24, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Yes, a fact-checking committee would be excellent; I second your nomination as chief fact checker. And the main reason that particular administrator is so heavily antagonizing the UK is because that's the home country of one atheist he wants to hurt the feelings of. Perhaps he should instead abide by the messages of Christ and partake in the Great Commission through decency and tolerance. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 21:29, November 21, 2022 (EST)

I just don't understand how the Encyclopedia Brittanica is such an authoritive source coming from the land Darwin. I think it's only cited cause he thinks its an alternative to Wikipedia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:34, November 21, 2022 (EST)

Wow, so he will cite almost anything that's not Wikipedia? What next? I mean, just imagine if he went to the point of competing with Social Darwinists on their own ground by citing junk "science" to disparage particular groups of people as "mutants" and almost insinuate them with inferiority. Oh wait, he already did that. Given that Conservapedia's article on Liberal deems bigotry to be a liberal trait, I guess that means the said administrator is thus an ultra-liberal due to his immense bigotry. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 21:39, November 21, 2022 (EST)

(ec) Both my parents were teachers, and I learned from them the hardest task on the planet is to teach someone how to think. It took me years to master the basics of how to think, let alone try to teach someone else. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:43, November 21, 2022 (EST)

And no, it's not that he'll cite anything, it's an appeal to authority or argument from authority, a phrase or concept he picked up in one of his many logic classes arguments with ratrolls. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:46, November 21, 2022 (EST)

He's basically saying Britanica is superior to Wikipedia as an instant internet source, while at the same time arguing that anything that comes out of Britian is defiled and corrupt because of Darwin. So where does that leave America? We have Conservapedia, but he's not picking up the challenge to make it authoritive. Nor the interest to do so. Only attacking his perceived personal enemies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:51, November 21, 2022 (EST)

And it wouldn't be so easy to paraphrase his content contributions if he wasn't so dang repetitious and redundant. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:54, November 21, 2022 (EST)

[EC] Yeah, his screeds are regurgitated, really don't make much sense, and lack consistency. I suppose by the standards of Conservapedia, he's only exemplifying more liberal traits to the point of reaching pinko commie levels. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Tuesday, 22:00, November 21, 2022 (EST)

(ec) Take myself, for example; I'm the guy known far and wide in the wiki world as the guy who tried to rehabilitate McCarthyism which labeled innocent people "Russian stooges" with my Wikipedia Venona project series; now anyone who tries to label me as a "Russian stooge" is an expression of their own ignorance. I speak from authority. So as an "author", the root word of "authority", redundancy is one of your worst enemies. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:06, November 21, 2022 (EST)

You and I discussed the other day how defunding the war means splitting the Patriot Movement between gung ho flag waving redneck killers and peaceniks. He's afraid to confront this question head on, which doesn't bode well for innocent Ukrainian citizens slain by a corrupt regime and U.S. tax dollars. He doesn't recognize the leader of the anti-globalist gay agenda movement, Mr. Vladimir Putin. He's content to go along with the liberal crowd. His Homosexual agenda and Atheism articles has garnered 14 million views, yet he's content to go along with atheists and gays in their demonization of Putin. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:22, November 21, 2022 (EST)

That's because he's a Protestant supremacist. People like him view apostolic sects like Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Church of the East with such contempt that he'd gladly align with non-Christian and even anti-Christian movements against them out of spite.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:38, November 23, 2022 (EST)

The Europeans are dragging us into supporting another war in Europe. As such, some healthy criticism of the UK/Europe is warranted. If nobody criticizes the Europeans, perhaps they will never reform themselves. Andy Schlafly has criticized the Brits in the past. Was he wrong in doing so? I don't think so! Conservative (talk) 02:43, November 23, 2022 (EST)

The US started the war in Europe with the fascist overthrow of a democratic government. The US forced Europe to accept American sanctions on Russia, or be faced with the same sanctions. The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline, causing fuel shortages, high energy prices, inflation, bankruptcies, and unemployment in Europe. The US has provided $65 billion in weapons and aid, keeping a defeated, zombie regime alive. The EU has contributed only $3 billion.

You are poorly informed, my friend. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:06, November 23, 2022 (EST)

• "The Europeans are dragging us into supporting another war in Europe."

This statement is a blatant, bald face falsehood. The facts are exactly the opposite. The United States dragged Europe into a war with Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:44, November 24, 2022 (EST)

Victoria Nuland said as much when the United States overthrew a democratically elected government that started the war: "F*** the EU." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:47, November 24, 2022 (EST)

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Ultimately, the Ukrainians chose to wish to join NATO which was like waving a red cape in front of the Russian bull. Furthermore, nobody has more influence on Ukrainian politics than the Ukrainians. For example, if the Ukrainians make bad political choices in terms of their voting, it is partly the fault of their weak educational system (In 2021, the Ukrainian educational was ranked 40th in the world[44] In 2010, the British economist Frances Cairncross stated "Ukrainian education is too inward-looking, too corrupt and too poor to do a good job".). To use an analogy, the American educational system is weak and spends to much time indoctrinating people into liberalism/leftism/wokism and that aids the Democrats.

In addition, bullies attack weaklings. One of the big reasons why the bully Vladimir Putin attacked Ukraine is that their closest geographic allies the Europeans are weak. Given that the USA has its historical roots in Europe, I am sad to say that many Europeans are effete, liberal/leftist, godless pantywaists who are shortsighted and became too dependent on Russian oil and gas (See also: Atheism and cowardice and Atheism and mental toughness and Atheism and foolishness). The psalmist David declared: "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good." — Psalms 14:1 (ESV) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Conservative (talk) [45]

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P.S. The Brit who formerly was my biggest detractor on the internet is an agnostic and not an atheist. Anyways, I am not going to write about him further and in all likelihood he is going to do likewise concerning me. Conservative (talk) 03:03, November 23, 2022 (EST)

Regardless, now that I have finished my essay series on the Russia-Ukraine War, I don't expect to post a lot about the UK or Europe for a considerable amount of time. When something is in decline, perhaps it is best to largely ignore it and let it slip into the sea. Such is the case with the SS UK and SS Europe (See: Decline of Europe). But I will not completely give up the idea of hope or future prayers for Europe. Sometimes people/nations have to experience a lot of pain and hit bottom before they sober up and repent. Conservative (talk) 03:17, November 23, 2022 (EST)

The Apostle Paul quoted a prominent Cretan to upbraid the Cretans (Titus, 1:12–14). So I feel perfectly fine quoting the Encyclopedia Britannica as far as the collapse of the British Empire. Conservative (talk) 03:27, November 23, 2022 (EST)

As far as the charge that I am a "Protestant supremacist", there are some good things the very conservative Catholics (Like Latin Mass), Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Church of the East are doing right that many Protestants and conservative Protestants are not doing. But on the whole, I believe more good fruit has come out of the conservative Protestants than other branches of Christianity (See: Protestant cultural legacies). Conservative (talk) 03:38, November 23, 2022 (EST)