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Why do trannies want to kill us?

The police state knows, but it won't tell us: "Where is the Nashville shooter’s manifesto?" Maybe we could go easy on transitioning until we find out. PeterKa (talk) 10:02, April 18, 2023 (EDT)

According to Jewish author Samuel Igra:
“ PROFESSOR HANS BLUEHER, who has been accepted by the Nazis as the apostle of a new social order, declares that woman is man's deadly enemy. This anti-feminist attitude is widespread in Germany, and has been an unbroken tradition among the German militarist caste ever since those segregated male com- munities, the Teutonic Knights, founded the Prussian State. It was the attitude of Frederick William, the creator of the Prussian Army and father of Frederick the Great, "If he (Frederick William) met a lady on the street," says Macauley, in his essay on Frederick the Great," he gave her a kick and ordered her to go home and mind her brats". Frederick the Great persistently refused to cohabit with his bride even from the day of their marriage. Hitler has taken Frederick as his model, though he has not gone through the farce of marriage, as Frederick did.

Now comes the, for us, startling denouement which Blucher announces as if it were an epoch-making revelation. And indeed so it was, not because it had the signature of Blueher's authority; for in point of fact the theory had gained currency independently of the Weimar psychiatrist and his immediate circle. It pretends to solve the question of why the Germans lost the first world war. According to Blueher, Germany was defeated because the homo- sexualist way of life (die maennerbändische Weltanschauung) had been considerably neglected and warlike virtues had degenerated under the advance of democratic ideas, the increasing prestige of family life among the bourgeois elements of the population, the growing influence of women and, above all, the Jews. Soon after the defeat Blueher delivered a lecture to a group of Wander- vögel, which he himself had founded. The lecture was entitled "The German Reich, Jewry and Socialism". He said: "There is no people whose destiny, but not the character, so closely resembles ours as that of the Jews". The Jews were con- quered by the Romans, lost their State and became only a race whose existence is maintained through the family. The primary cause of this collapse, he says, was that the Jews had failed to base their State on the homoerotic male com- munity and had staked all on the family life, with its necessary concomitant of women's encouragement of the civic and social and spiritual virtues in their menfolk rather than the warlike qualities.

”

—"Germany's National Vice," p. 87, 97

LGBT movements, from which Nazism was an outgrowth of, are intrinsically rooted in hatred of Judeo-Christian values. In the days of Pagan Rome, the heathens were notorious for their tolerance of sexual perversion, which was nothing short of abhorrent to Jewish values. And of course, Pagan Rome ultimately collapsed because its men became too gay and effeminate. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 10:37, April 18, 2023 (EDT)
One positive on the propaganda front about all this is, the fascist Zelensky regime promoting transgenderism and gay marriage is refuting the decades long propaganda spiel we've endured in the United States that gays were targeted victims of Nazism. Homosexuality was foundational to the Nazi party and belief system. Gays who spent more time and interest in finding a sex partner rather than doing their collectivist duty to the nation in war time were not discriminated against - they found themselves in a concentration camp along with anybody else who shirked their national duty and didn't have their priorities straight. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:19, April 18, 2023 (EDT)
If you ever want to kill two birds with one stone (in this case, triggering both Marxists and Nazis), all you need to do is bring up the homosexualist origins of Nazism. They can't stand the truth! —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 17:26, April 18, 2023 (EDT)
Nazis, Marxists, and atheists deem God-ordained marriage and heterosexuality as oppressive. When you follow that logic, everything falls into place. RobSGive Peace a chance 10:26, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Fox agrees to pay $800 million to Dominion

Since New York Times Co. v. Sullivan of 1964, the standard for winning a defamation suit has been "actual malice." That is to say, if the plaintiff is a "public figure," he has to show not only that the defendant lied, but that the lies were motivated by a desire to harm the plaintiff. Who thinks that Fox News had actual malice against Dominion Voting Systems? Fox was always motivated by a desire for ratings and for profits. The network was never literally lying anyway, just reporting dubious allegations made by others. Trump's voting machine allegations were based less on anything that happened in 2020 than on similar allegations made by John Kerry in 2004, back when Dominion was still called "Diebold."

Fox News got out of the lawsuit easy. The judge issued a summary judgement stating ‘it's "CRYSTAL clear" that Fox News' statements about Dominion are false’. All Dominion had to do during the trial was to prove actual malice. Quite certain malice would not have been difficult to prove if Hannity and others were forced to read the transcripts of their depositions where they admitted what they put on the air was absolute garbage. After surrendering a paltry $787.5 million to Dominion, Fox did not have to admit fault or even apologize. The most Fox acknowledged was ‘certain claims about Dominion appear to be false’. But remember; Smartmatic, Abby Grossman, and Crikey News will most likely have their opportunity in court.--LSimons (talk) 11:45, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

Dominion submitted numerous discovery requests and was in a position to deliver embarrassing revelations. It is hard to feel much sympathy for Fox after the revelation that the network's major personalities privately attacked its strategy as unethical. Fox is also subject to "obstruction" charges from the special master, who oversaw the discovery process. In short, there doesn't need to be any original crime or misconduct by Fox for Dominion to be in a position to make trouble and for Fox to want to make this issue go away. This case will obviously be used as a model for L. Jean Carroll's defamation case against Trump. Dominion is now an openly and aggressively partisan company, which is reason enough for red states to want to find someone else to count the votes. PeterKa (talk) 22:36, April 18, 2023 (EDT)

Fox News abdicated its responsibility to defend the First Amendment, and instead sold out the First Amendment to try to save itself a few bucks. It's a disgrace.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:09, April 18, 2023 (EDT)
The reaction from the MSM is appalling. They are unanimously and thunderously in favor of this decision. They don't mention Sullivan, or any other relevant precedent. Free speech and law are treated as alien concepts, things that no self-respecting journalist needs to know anything about.
Update. Dominion has only 100 employees. Its entire revenue in 2022 was $17.5 million. This is a company whose principle asset is that it was "defamed." PeterKa (talk) 04:47, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
No one has a first amendment protection to libel or slander another person or organization. Dominion had Fox News dead to rights. But the funny thing is, Conservapedia has made some of the exact same claims that got Fox News into trouble and then some. The article on Dominion has the same libelous bilge and much more. The sources used are absolute crap in my opinion but CP is spared liability because of the Federal Communications Decency Act, section 300. By the way, the Washington Post has brought up New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, are they liberal enough for you?--LSimons (talk) 11:45, April 19, 2023 (EDT) [6]
This isn't the first time Dominion has been accused of involvement in election-related conspiracies. But this occasion presents an opportunity to sue Fox News. Every other major American media company has essentially identical opinions on questions of public interest. This suit is seen as an opportunity to strike at a nonconforming outlet. That's not what "freedom of the press" is supposed to be about. PeterKa (talk) 14:24, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
It's a big loss for the First Amendment, and liberals cheer it. Fox News caved into the other side when anyone else would have fought for the First Amendment. It's a pathetic sell-out by Fox News, but one generally prophesied here in its entry.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:39, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Literally anyone can be accused of involvement in conspiracies, all it takes is a conspiracy-minded nutjob to regurgitate an alleged ‘fact’ and for others to believe the nonsense. Fox News was sued because they knowingly promoted lies. They encouraged this entire mess for the sake of ratings and to not alienate their audience. This is not my opinion, but an actual fact that came out during the discovery process. Dominion is on a roll and they will not stop until they have become a billion-dollar company through litigating the libelous conduct of numerous media organizations.--LSimons (talk) 14:51, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Anyone can be accused, but the accusations that Diebold illegally helped Bush defeat Kerry in 2004 were so widespread that the company changed its name to Dominion. There were similar "sore loser" theories that circulated after other elections, such as the "October Surprise" in 1980 or the Trump-Russia nonsense in 2016. What happened to Dominion in 2020 is nothing new, not even for Dominion. PeterKa (talk) 15:31, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Diebold changed their name to Dominion? Really? Then why is it that Diebold still exists as Diebold Nixdorf? Where are you getting your information? Your little factoid is not even mentioned in the CP articles for Diebold or Dominion. Trump - Russia nonsense? You mean Trump didn’t invite Russia to hack Clinton’s email? You’re simply making this up as you go along, right?--LSimons (talk) 18:31, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Fox News made billions thanks to the First Amendment, and should have defended the First Amendment at trial and on appeal. The settlement is Fox cutting and running, abandoning the First Amendment to try to save Fox a few bucks. So it will be up to others to stand up against infringement on First Amendment rights.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:56, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
America is still a democracy. People at the city, county, and state level can vote out councils and legislatures that contract with Dominion. Those extortionists have no exclusive right to manage elections. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:17, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
LSimmons, duh, Russia didn't hack the DNC. Careful, Russia should sue you for slander. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:20, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
" a conspiracy-minded nutjob to regurgitate an alleged ‘fact’ ", yah, like Ukraine was gonna defeat Russia. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:25, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Clinton campaign manager John Podesta was notified by Google that his emails were hacked, not by Russia, but by Ukraine during the 2016 presidential election. [1]
In 2006, Diebold changed its name to Premier Election Systems. This company was acquired by Dominion in 2010.
I think LSimons is referring to this Trump quote: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press." This was said immediately after the DNC emails were posted on WikiLeaks, so it wasn't Trump ordering a hack. We still don't have the 30,000 missing emails. Putin's agenda was never about electing Trump or Hillary, but rather about exposing American democracy as a fraud to the Russian people. More to the point, the Democrats' version of events overlooks the fact that Hillary was, you know, committing obstruction. PeterKa (talk) 22:16, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Mr. Ka: Diebold Incorporated, had a subsidiary called Diebold Election Systems. This subsidiary changed its name to Premier Election Solutions. [7] Dominion acquired Premier Election Solutions. [8] Once again, where are you getting your information?--LSimons (talk) 00:07, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Where's the dispute? Peter was right and you are right (after you corrected yourself). Let's move on. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:34, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Time for some facts. The DNC was not hacked by Russia, Wikileaks is not a KGB front, and John Podesta was hacked by the Security Service of Ukraine. (DNC hack was an inside job by a whistleblower). Crowdstrike, a Ukrainian company that has contracts with NATO and the DNC, pushed the 'Russia collusion hoax' because as Lindsey Graham said, "2017 will be the year of offense" to retake Crimea. Trump thwarted the globalists and deep state's plans. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:26, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election, not Russia. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:33, April 19, 2023 (EDT)
The whole Russia collusion conspiracy theory, beginning under President Poroshenko, including the DNC & Podesta hacks, pee-tape allegations of the Steele dossier, etc etc, is no different than the Ukrainian missile attack on Poland under Zelensky last September - to get NATO and the US to fight its war for them. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:16, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
  • Here is how Politico explains the case: "Dominion had alleged that the network defamed the election technology company in the wake of the 2020 election, focusing on a series of segments in which Fox hosts allowed lawyers affiliated with Donald Trump to falsely claim that the company had rigged the election against the former president." What Fox did sounds like standard practice in journalism. We elected Trump. Why can't we hear what he and his lawyers have to say? PeterKa (talk) 04:51, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Fox interviewed Trump attorneys and sycophants that spewed absolute bilge about Dominion. The Fox CEO and the talking heads were not deceived, they absolutely knew they were broadcasting defamatory information. They admitted it during the depositions. And to say this is a standard practice in journalism defies belief. Trump did not win his reelection, that much is a fact. And all the gripping about the deep state, globalism, rigged voting systems, hacked counting machines, Ukrainian fantasies, or mythical companies founded in Venezuela, will not change this undeniable fact.--LSimons (talk) 13:27, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Hmm. I ain't never heard of a perpetual corporation winning a defamation lawsuit. In addition to Dominion being a bunch of election fraudsters, they're extortionists. Go ahead, sue me. And extorting $787 billion from Fox News doesn't make Biden anymore a legitimate president. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:01, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Libel law has been around for a long time, but its never before been understood as a way for the courts to censor what elected leaders say. How is that even democracy? I didn't say that broadcasting defamatory information was a standard practice. But its certainly happened before, for example when Trump was accused of "colliding," a nonsense word that no American has ever been found guilty of. Trump's real crime was always robbing Hillary of her presidency. PeterKa (talk) 15:21, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
So Dan Bongino didn't chose his words properly in a broadcast (I'd like to see that tape). Firing him was probably part of the settlement deal. Big deal. You think that will slow him down or deter his followers? RobSGive Peace a chance 15:24, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Don’t remember Trump being accused of ‘colliding’. I agree, I’ve never heard of this crime. Can you give an example of an elected office holder having their speech censored by a court? Trump wanted to ‘open up’ libel laws so he would have an easier time suing news organizations. Of course, people would have an easier time suing him too if he succeeded. [9] As for Bongino, is there any evidence of this alleged ‘settlement deal’?--LSimons (talk) 15:42, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
The logic of your argument suggests that the media should not report certain things that the president says, even if they are newsworthy and intended for publication. This is what I am referring to as censorship. If Trump wants to open up the libel laws, he should be sued libel. Say what? If we accept this as a logical argument, shouldn't Dominion be suing Trump instead of Fox News? Joe Biden libeled Americans as "white supremacists." Why does the media report this kind of race-baiting? PeterKa (talk) 17:04, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Not sure if you’re deliberately misrepresenting what I posting or having trouble understanding. Anyone can say almost anything in this country with little restriction. But there are limits when it comes to libel and slander. I NEVER said Trump SHOULD be sued for libel. I said, ‘people WOULD have an easier time suing him too if he succeeded’ opening up the libel laws. White supremacists actually exist, some, maybe many, are actually proud to refer to themselves as such. Why does the media report this alleged race-baiting? Why don’t you ask them? Any chance we can have a discussion on ‘colliding’? Should be interesting.--LSimons (talk) 17:25, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

The Biden DHS issued a bulletin stating that the Ukraine regime was actively recruiting foreign Nazis to fight against Putin's special denazification operation. [2]
You say white supremacists "actually exist". I say you're lying. I recognize that out of 330 million Americans, there is a mathematical possibility that there is somebody, somewhere who holds a given opinion. But what I am saying is that you yourself do not know of any white supremacist person or group and have no basis to make this kind of claim. Joe Biden is obsessed with white supremacists, but he doesn't seem to able to name names. As near as I can tell, Biden's meaning is something like "people who didn't vote me" or "people who don't have the same opinion as I do." Why doesn't he order the arrest of, say, Patriot Front members? Because they are a bunch of FBI informants, that's why. PeterKa (talk) 18:58, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
If there are white supremacists in the United States, they were trained by the Azov battalion with money from the US Congress and awarded high honors by the Kyiv regime, if they are lucky enough to survive mercenary combat. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:27, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
I have worked with and personally knew KKK members. One of them actually seemed rather normal until you’d get him riled up. Are you trying to tell me the KKK freaks aren’t white nationalists or white supremacists? What about the American Nazi Party? Or the Aryan Nations? You need to get out more. You’d think someone with the tiniest bit of knowledge of the outside world would know about such things. There is even a CP article about white supremacy, it’s rather insane but it gets a couple things right. One other thing. The KKK has been around a lot longer than the Azov Battalion.--LSimons (talk) 22:54, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
You live in a town where the Klan is active? Is this anywhere near that Subway where Jussie Smollett got a sandwich? PeterKa (talk) 23:36, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Please notice the past tense usage in my last post. Not sure why I have to continually point out the obvious. But then again, you're calling me a liar because I think there are actually white supremacists in America. Bizarre. Right?--LSimons (talk) 23:48, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Even in Lyndon Johnson's day the joke was that in every Southern hick town with a KKK chapter of 5 members, 4 of the 5 were FBI informants. Now, is it possible for an FBI informant to be a full-fledged white supremacist and racist? Sure. That's how informants are made - by blackmail and coercion. It has nothing to do with being spiritually or morally reformed. The one-in-five raw recruit to the Klan had to be pretty stupid to not know what was happening in his own hometown.
What was sheriff Andy Taylor's job in Mayberry RFD? To keep blacks out of town. Did you ever see a black person in those classic, racist CBS Hollywood productions?
By the 1950s and 1960s, the Klan for the most part didn't exist or was inoperational in large cities - except in the northern Democrat-run city of Chicago. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:54, April 21, 2023 (EDT)
In the 1980s I worked with a 'klansman' in Minneapolis. He wasn't a member of any local group (which didn't exist), he was just a subscriber to J.B. Stoner's newsletter, which somehow got him on an FBI watch list (probably through the United States Post Office). RobSGive Peace a chance 01:23, April 21, 2023 (EDT)
Deny, deny, deny. Then use a Wikipedia reference. Got it. --LSimons (talk) 08:32, April 21, 2023 (EDT)
Sure there's white supremacists in America. The Charlottesville rally protesters were trained in Ukraine with U.S. taxpayer money by the Azov battalion. You think they are heroes? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:39, April 21, 2023 (EDT)
Bongino? Yah. He was canned 48 hours after the initial press release. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:01, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
The reason for Bongino's departure is given as "contract negotiations fell apart." The contract itself presumably includes a deadline that determined the timing. "It’s not some big conspiracy theory," Bongino said. PeterKa (talk) 17:16, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
He looks like the designated fall guy. He should address the issue head on. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:26, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Add to that Tucker. Tucker evidently was given the option to make a retraction or get fired. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:56, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

RFK Jr

Robrt Barnes has a lot to say about Bobby Jr. The circumstances today are very similar to 1968 - the country is at war under an unpopular president, massive democrat-backed riots and crime in the streets, etc. Johnson backed out after he lost the New Hampshire primary. No incumbent with a challenger from his own party has won re-election in recent memory (Carter got shot down by Ted Kennedy and Papa Bush by Pat Buchanon). Many people believe Bobby would have beat Nixon if he wasn't killed.

RFK Jr is willing to speak openly about how the Deep State and CIA murdered his father and uncle, and provides even more details about how Fauci, not the CCP, was the driving force behind the covid bioweapon.

So the time has not come for CP to criticize him. In fact, we ought to build him up. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:18, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Conservatives need to think right now who they would back in a head-to-head match up between the anti-globalist RFK Jr and the globalist/neocon-backed De Santis, and post accordingly/ If you're looking for reasons to vote against RFK Jr and support globalism in a general election, I'm sure we can find enough good cause when the time comes. But Bobby may be playing a spoiler role right now to pave the way for Gruesome Newsom once divisions in the Democrat party are exposed. We need to support Peaceniks and the victims of transgenderism, i.e. women's rights advocates in the Democrat party. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:50, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
I agree that RFK, Jr. is terrific in many ways. He was fabulous against Covid tyranny, and continues to be courageous against the Deep State. Let's improve his entry here!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:04, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
I checked out the NYT story. He sounds pretty awesome, a chip off the old block: "Bob Shrum, a former aide to Ted Kennedy, said Mr. Kennedy’s attacks on Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and the federal government’s top medical and scientific agencies would have infuriated his uncle. “It’s contrary to everything his uncle Ted Kennedy ever did."”
RFK Jr is not getting the fake American Indian vote either: "Sen. Warren's Asking Amazon to Stop Carrying Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s COVID Book Likely Not Unconstitutional." PeterKa (talk) 01:52, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Here's Robert Barnes take on RFK Jr time prompted.
Here's a minute or two of Barnes intro to RFK earlier in the program time prompted well worth hearing. Barnes is one of the premier analysts out there. RobSGive Peace a chance 09:13, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
I chuckled at the comparison of Ted Kennedy to RFK, Jr.. Chappaquiddick Ted would not have been worthy to carry RFK's satchel.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:56, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Barnes is superb. He says the Georgia grand jury against Trump is literally a witch-hunt led by a witch. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:22, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

The United States is speaking like a dragon

“ Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. ”

—John the Apostle, Rev. 13:11

What does it mean to be lamb-like? 1 Peter 1:19 compares Jesus to "a lamb without blemish or spot." Among Jesus's recorded statements was, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s." (Mark 12:17) IOWs, separation of church and state, as declared by the Bill of Rights:

“ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. ”

—1st Amendment to the United States Constitution

When the U.S. was lamb-like:

  • President Thomas Jefferson: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." (1802) [10]
  • President Ulysses S. Grant: "Keep the church and state separate forever." (1875) [11]
  • President John F. Kennedy: "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute." (1960) [12]

Increasing dragon language:

  • Justice William Rehnquist: "The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history." (1985) [13]
  • Presidential candidate Rick Santorum: "The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country...to say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes me want to throw up." (2012) [14]
  • Rep. Lauren Boebert: "The church is supposed to direct the government." (2022) [15]
  • Justice Neil Gorsuch: "...about the so-called separation of state" (2022) [16]
  • Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene: "We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian Nationalists." (2022) [17]

And you thought the Democrats were bad enough? Just wait til the Republican antichrists order the mass execution of anyone who does not comply with the coming international Sunday decree. (for more information, see this excellent exposé by Walter Veith over a decade ago) —LT (Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 16:05, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

John Kennedy was simply swearing off his allegiance to the Pope in favor of the secular authority.
Recently we've had a discussion on the global growth of Christianity. Would you agree that there is such a thing as the Muslim nation, the Hindi nation, and the Christian nation? All Christians are members of this global community. I think that's what MTG was referring to. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:32, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
The U.S. certainly started out with the Christian principle of separation of church and state (the designation of "Christian nation" is still debatable). —LT (Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 16:46, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
There is no separation of church and state in Christian principles. Christ is King. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:58, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
That's only in the New Jerusalem; currently, in this old Earth, Mark 12:17 makes it abundantly clear that Christians are to render distinct the separate institutions of church and state. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 17:01, April 20, 2023 (EDT)
Who's image and inscription is this? Man was created in the image of God. Render not your members slaves to unrighteous. Render yourselves unto God. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:06, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Blinken organized the letter to deny that laptop was Hunter's

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The MSM expects us to be appalled that Fox gave Trump's lawyers airtime. The time has come to reiterate that the MSM itself has no credibility. Fifty-one active and retired intelligence “experts” signed a letter in which they claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop story “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” It was an obvious fraud concocted by Anthony Blinken. The MSM was in the tank every step of the way. After the election, even Hunter admitted that the laptop was his. See "Spies who lie: 51 ‘intelligence’ experts refuse to apologize for discrediting true Hunter Biden story." and "NEW: Secretary Blinken, Biden Campaign Behind Intel Community Letter Labeling Hunter's Laptop as Russian Disinfo." PeterKa (talk) 23:00, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

This could be part of the Weaponization of government investigation, after they finish the obvious criminal activity of the FBI and other agencies. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:05, April 21, 2023 (EDT)

ACLU screeches because... DeSantis is letting mass murderers get executed rather than leech off taxpayer dollars

I guess leftists aren't even trying to hide whose side they're really on. [18] —LT (Matthew 26:52) Friday, 23:41, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Russia disproportionately attacking Evangelical Christian churches saying they are American "spies"

From: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/february/ukrainian-churches-damaged-russia-war-religious-freedom-irf.html

"Report: 500 Ukrainian Churches and Religious Sites Damaged by Russian Military"

One out of three destroyed or looted buildings tallied by Institute for Religious Freedom belong to evangelicals, accused of being “American spies.

The Russian military has disproportionately attacked evangelical Christians and “destroyed, damaged, or looted” at least 494 religious buildings, theological institutions, and sacred sites in Ukraine since invading the neighboring nation almost a year ago, according to the Kyiv-based Institute for Religious Freedom (IRF).”

What say you, Putin defenders? The Truth is Communism never really died in the former Soviet Union. There still are those who idolize Communist Terrorist Stalin, who killed 20 MN people (as one who idolizes Hitler is a Nazi, so one who idolizes Stalin is necessarily a Communist) and who long for the "glory days" when Commie Thug Stalin made Russia "great". 70% of Russians think Stalin is a great leader. Things have gone wrong, and the world waking up in defending Ukraine against unjustified and unwarranted Russian Aggression is a small step toward the Russian people waking up and renouncing Communism totally to go back to true Christian values of loving one's neighbor as oneself NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:41, April 21, 2023 (EDT)

Fake news. That's what the Zelensky regime is doing. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:10, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Christianity Today is fake news? Nope! NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:27, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

You don't have to be part of the MSM to repeat fake news, you just have to be a biased editor. Look at the sources used. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:07, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Christianity is the official Russian state religion (there is no separation of church and state in Russia). Below you cite the Russian state Duma as having refuted Joseph Stalin and communist lies. Here you post propaganda and disinformation alleging Russia is communist.
The Western powers, USA and UK, included Katyn massacre in the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal indictment - despite widespread knowledge that the USSR was responsible. All my life, until 2010 when the Russian state Duma officially corrected the historical record, I, and anyone else who raised the issue, was called a Nazi apologist for publicly discussing this issue. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:47, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
"'No way is Putinist Russia a Communist state!' declares comsymp." This would make for an excellent Babylon Bee article headline. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:03, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Sorry, but I have long term commitment on this subject. It was Putinist Russia that accepted responsibility for the Katyn massacre and apologized, not Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Brezhnev, or Khruschev. My Christian faith tells me to forgive. If you willfully chose to believe lies, that's your business. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:57, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
For the record: I did the first full English language translation of the Politburo order for the massacre. [19] RobSGive Peace a chance 00:02, April 23, 2023 (EDT)


The Guardian, Nov 22, 2022: Ukraine’s security service raids Russian-backed monastery in Kyiv. They have since arrested dozens of priests as "Russian spies" and seized church property. Now, the question is, What has the "the Kyiv-based Institute for Religious Freedom " said or done about Zelensky's war on the church? If you dig deeper, you will discover the "Kyiv-based Institute for Religious Freedom" is a non-indigenous, foreign backed entity funded with money from abroad by the Open Society/NED designed to target the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:39, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
What makes a Ukrainian Orthodox priest a "Russian spy"? Umm, preaching from the pulpit that gay marriage is a sin imported from the West by NATO and the United States. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:46, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
See this clip from the film, Best in Hell filmed on the frontlines a few months ago. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:57, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
This is why this anti-Russian propaganda about mistreatment of the churches appears now: Austrian blogger went to Ukraine to see the situation with the crackdown on the churches for himself. He’s shocked! RobSGive Peace a chance 19:05, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
This one is good (video): Ukrainian patriots (nazis and atheists) banish orthodox priests from a church with tear gas in Ivano-Frankivsk. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:56, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Moscow struggling with narrative to justify war as Wagner chief questions 'Nazis' claim

From the Guardian:

"The UK Ministry of Defence has issued its intelligence update for 22 April saying Russia is struggling to maintain consistency in a core narrative used to justify the Ukraine war: that the invasion is akin to the Soviet experience during the second world war.

The update posted to Twitter detailed Russia’s attempts to unify the public around its central message:

On 18 April 2023, Russian state media announced the cancellation of this year’s Immortal Regiment ‘Great Patriotic War’ remembrance marches on ‘safety’ grounds. In reality, the authorities were highly likely concerned that participants would highlight the scope of recent Russian losses.

This follows Wagner group owner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, publicly questioning whether there are actually any “Nazis” in Ukraine, going against Russia’s justification for the war. The authorities have continued attempts to unify the Russian public around polarising myths about the 1940s.

On 12 April 2023, state news agency RIA Novosti reported “unique” documents from FSB archives, implicating the Nazis in the murder of 22,000 Polish nationals in the Katyn Massacre of 1940. In reality, FSB’s predecessor agency, the NKVD, was responsible. Russia’s State Duma officially condemned Joseph Stalin for ordering the killings in 2010." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:26, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

UK Ministry of Defense and The Guardian are fake news and propaganda disinformation outlets. One simple example recently: When Kiev media reported that life expectancy of Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut was 4 hours, the UK Ministry claimed life expectancy of Russian soldiers in Bakhmut was 4 hours. they have been doing the same thing with casualty statistics since February 2022. Anything they say about Russia is actually true about Ukraine. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:12, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
The British Army you can fit in a soccer stadium - and still have 40,000 unsold seats as Scott Ritter says. So all they have working for them is "information specialists", more properly "disinformation specialists". NATO thought they could win this war exclusively by information control and propaganda. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:58, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Outside of Kiev, British intelligence and the UK Ministry of Defense is probably the worst at spreading fake news. Look at their claims after the Kerch Strait bridge and Nordstream pipeline bombings for example; the Pentagon refused to back up the claims. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:35, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Did The Guardian tell you that Prigozhin is running against Zelensky for President of Ukraine in 2024? [20] Of course he would seek to build a base among non-Nazi Ukrainian dissenters who oppose what the Kyiv nazi regime has done to the country.
Oops. I guess that tidbit puts to rest the notions that (a) Russia wants to "conquer" all of Ukraine; and (b) Russians do not believe in democracy. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:35, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Sorry to belabour the point...

But this Katyn massacre deal is stuck in my craw. When the United States Congress and British Parliament show the same moral courage the Russian state Duma showed, and will publicly condemn the fraudulent, bogus charges Nuremberg prosecutors knowingly approved of to frame the top Nazi war criminals by including the Katyn massacre in the indictment, and convicting them of it in order to promote Soviet communism, I'll shut up. In the meantime, these rookie propagandists in UK intelligence and Ministry of Defense, and the stooges in MSM media who repeat this garbage, continue with their lies and bs about the International Criminal Court, which the United States, by law, does not recognize the legitimacy of, and this "Putin arrest warrant" and "war crimes" garbage.

Russia will have its own War Crimes Tribunal when the shooting stops. And Russia has gained more credibility and legitimacy by refuting the crimes of its past, unlike the "Empire of Lies", which just continues committing more crimes and creating more lies to justify itself. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:46, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Kara Murza, Putin Critic, shockingly sentenced to 25 Years in Prison

More Thuggish behavior from Vladimir Stalin er, I mean, Putin. Putin is a Stalin 2.0 wannabe and he proves it by criminal sentences like these. 25 years in prison for expressing an opinion. Barbaric. It shows there is no freedom in Russia today and it remains sadly a communist or authoritarian dictatorship. I pray Alexey Navalny, the main opposition leader also brutally persecuted by that Thug Putin, one day becomes president of the Russian Federation. Then Russia can play a constructive and decent role in bringing peace and stability to the international order

"Russian opposition figure Vladimir Kara-Murza was convicted of treason by a Moscow court on Monday and sentenced to 25 years in prison. Who is he? Kara-Murza, 41, is a historian, journalist and opposition politician who holds Russian and British passports and studied in England at Cambridge University. He was a close associate of Boris Nemtsov, a leading opposition figure who was assassinated near the Kremlin in 2015, and continued to speak out against President Vladimir Putin despite the mounting risks."

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/all-about-kara-murza-putin-critic-who-was-sentenced-to-25-years-in-jail-3954853 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:24, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Andrew Korybko, Vladimir Kara-Murza Is A Foreign Agent Who Unquestionably Committed Treason. So he took money from USAID, Open Society Foundations, and the National Endowment for Democracy front groups. Georgia, Pakistan, and Thailand need to tighten the screws as well, or they'll end up being destroyed like Ukraine, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan in a U.S.-backed regime change war. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:58, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
With the indictment of Donald Trump and imprisonment for 2 years of J6 protesters without trial, the United States has forfeited all pretense to moral authority about treatment of opposition leaders and groups. Trump and the J6 protesters were indigenous, and not funded by foreigners, which makes the crime by the D.C. regime even more anti-democratic. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:07, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
The violent protesters got what they asked for; those who take by the sword will perish by the sword. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:09, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Oh yah? An insurrection, only they forget to bring their guns. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Oh yes, as if guns are the only instruments required for violence; have you seen none of the evidence, as broad as daylight, of the vicious assaults against the Capitol Police? It's clear at this point that 1/6 defenders completely disregard the sufferings of the officers. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:15, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
The final tally was Capitol Police-0, Protesters-5. Just like Ukraine, the numbers were fudged and flipped. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:17, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Which of these things does not apply to the U.S. deep state and its sycophantic media?

These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

RobSGive Peace a chance 22:21, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Now, as to Navalny: Who is he? He's a racist Islamophobe who ran for mayor of Moscow and finished 3rd with about 5% of the vote. His name recognition outside Moscow is near zero. He was recruited by the CIA by taking money from the National Endowment for Democracy to pose as a supposed "opposition leader" on the national level cause they couldn't bribe find anybody better in a more high profile position to play the role, and likewise found himself in jail for treason and being an agent of a foreign power aimed at overthrowing the legitimate government.
Basically, Navalny was guilty of what Democrats and the MSM falsely accused Donald Trump of. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:54, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
Like Maria Butina, there is a movement in Russia to pass a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to bear arms modeled after the US 2nd Amendment. Navalny ran for mayor of Moscow on that platform. In a campaign ad, Navalny shoots a Muslim just like the scene out of the Indiana Jones movie to demonstrate why the need for a right to own a gun, only he calls Muslims 'cockroaches'. RobSGive Peace a chance 11:28, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Here's Russian Chess Champion Gary Kasparov retweet support of Kara Murza and Navalny and condemn Putin. I trust he knows Russia better than most of us. ""Everything Kara-Murza said about Putin’s Russia in 2017 is true in 2023, but much more so." ICYMI @CathyYoung63 on Putin's escalation of political repression: https://www.thebulwark.com/putins-reign-of-terror-russia/ "The mind-boggling 25-year sentence handed down in a Moscow court on Monday to activist and journalist Vladimir Kara-Murza, one of the leading figures in the Russian opposition, is a horrifying landmark in the escalation of political repression in Russia over the past year. The grim news prompted me to rewatch Kara-Murza’s remarks at the September 2017 Oslo Freedom Forum in New York, where I had the privilege to meet this modern hero." https://twitter.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1650197849362034688 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:44, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Kasparov doesn't have much choice if he wants to keep playing chess outside Russia. Virtually all Russians living abroad are coerced to trash talk their country if they want to keep making money in the West. What he says means nothing. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:15, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
False. Kasparov fled Putin's Russia because he has no freedom there, and didn't want to suffer like Navalny is now suffering. Those who want to be free have no choice but to either flee Russia or keep silent. If you speak out, you will be brutally persecuted by the Kremlin. Your motto was once: "Live Free or Die". With such a motto, why do you support Vladimir Putin? NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:51, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
"Having freedom" differs from "having money." You got the two confused. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:47, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Garry Kasparov’s Cognitive Dissonance Is Typical Of Kiev’s Average Supporters Right Now. Excerpted:
"There’s no conspiracy like Kasparov and his pro-Kiev ilk have ridiculously convinced themselves of since the truth is that “US Propaganda Is Responsible For Unrealistically High Hopes About Kiev’s Counteroffensive”. Those like him who fully fell for false claims about the NATO-Russian proxy war can’t accept that they’ve been lied to for narrow short-term narrative ends since their belief in Kiev’s “inevitable victory” is practically a “secular religion” for them and thus an integral part of their identity.

"Not only do they remain in denial about the West’s military-industrial crisis that poses the greatest obstacle to Kiev’s victory, but they’re also ignoring the second joint American-Polish perception correction operation aimed at tempering the public’s expectations about the upcoming counteroffensive. It was detailed here, which proves that officials from two of Ukraine’s top allies are preconditioning their people to accept a lackluster outcome that might then pave the way for a ceasefire.

"Continuing to cling to the false narrative of Kiev’s “inevitable victory” in the face of the abovementioned facts proving that such an outcome can’t be taken for granted risks radicalizing that side’s supporters similar in a sense to how QAnon radicalized some of Trump’s. If the counteroffensive fails and a ceasefire follows, then they’ll be inclined to concoct a modern-day “stab-in-the-back” conspiracy theory to explain that scenario, which is exactly what Kasparov is preemptively doing in his latest Twitter rant.

RobSGive Peace a chance 05:28, May 3, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith has become a comsymp for well over the past year, saying a few months ago, "if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up." —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 19:57, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
There’s Nothing Conspiratorial About The Left & Right Working Together. Why have you become an apologist for the Biden regime, the neo-Nazi Zelensky regime, globalism, atheism, and the homosexual and transgender agenda? RobSGive Peace a chance 20:30, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
That's a bunch of moldy baloney. I don't support any of those regimes/agenda. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 20:35, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
If Russia loses (which is impossible and will not happen) you might as well bend over and grab your ankles. Cause that's what the globalists have in store for you, and richly deserve for allowing yourself to be brainwashed. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:49, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
For the record, the organization that published this book, Old Nazis, The New Right And The Republican Party, which also published this book, Right-Wing Populism in America: Too Close for Comfort, were behind my two-year banning from Wikipedia in 2005 while I was at work on the Venona project series. Harry Magdoff, who was still alive, and the Anti-Defamation League sicced them on me. They accused me of McCarthyism and neo-Nazi sympathies. It's ironic that today I use them for sources, while most of them are retired and haven't publicly articulated their stance on the Ukraine war.
Had the Ukraine regime change war occurred under Baby Bush, they would have been in the forefront of the anti-war movement - a role I play now. And no, I haven't rescinded anything I wrote about KGB agents working for the US government during World War II or forgotten the lies these guys said about me before moving from Wikipedia to Conservapedia. RobSGive Peace a chance 05:12, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
So, building on the research of Russ Ballant in Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party, I and George Eliason (residing in Donbas) are the only researchers I know of who have picked up the story after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The GOP dropped the Nazis, and the Democrat party under the Clintons picked them up. The same constituents of the Republican Ethnic Outreach Committee became the Democrat Ethnic Outreach Committee headed by Alexandra Chalupa who framed Paul Manafort; her sister continued working for Radio Free Europe in Munich. which Ballant referenced. A second generation of the Ukrainian diaspora community, which included Alexander Vindman, the White House leaker in the Trump impeachment sham, and Canadian deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland, continue to promote Ukrainian Nazism. This is not a partisan left-right issue, and I am happy to work with communists to purge North America and Europe of this pernicious Nazi influence. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:44, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
The difference between GOP handling of Ukrainian nationalists and Democrat handling of them is, the GOP used them because they thought they were ideological anti-communists, whereas the Democrats are now exploiting them as fervent racists and Russophobes. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:57, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
The GOP used them from 1945 to 1991; the Dems have used them from about 1995 to now. Under both parties, Ukrainian Nazi ideology has penetrated to the highest levels of Western intelligence agencies. Their loyalties are not to NATO, the EU, the United States, Canada, or democracy or anything like that. Their vision and loyalties are to Ukrainian Nazi ideology, and they don't care what they destroy to achieve that vision. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:00, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

Are Steve Turley and Tucker Carlson commiesymps?

So let's look at the Steve Turley video about Tucker Carlson's firing headlining MPR right now. [21] Turley syas:

when a majority of average citizens disagreed with economic elites, those with super high income on any policy issues, they almost always lost. The study confirmed that economic elites virtually always get their way.

Those words could have come straight out of Karl Marx's mouth. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:21, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

"Right-wing" populism is, after all, just a syncretism of nationalism, socialism, and "social conservatism." In fact, I would go so far as to argue that much of the "radical right" can be traced to socialists and progressives a century back. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 18:01, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
That sounds like a bunch of leftist gobbledygook. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:45, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
The use of too many "isms" in one sentence means, "I don't know what the heck I'm talking about." RobSGive Peace a chance 18:46, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
Specifically, back to the point: "economic elites virtually always get their way" = class warfare. The question is, do conservatives accept what Turley and Tucker say about "economic elites" and make common cause with socialists and communists, or do conservatives blindly follow the globalists, Putin-haters, and economic oligarchs into slavery? RobSGive Peace a chance 18:56, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
[EC] What is "right-wing populist" ideology comprised of? Nationalistic left-wing economic populism and "right-wing"/traditionalist social viewpoints. In many ways, this essentially parallels the ideology of Progressive Movement thinkers such Theodore Roosevelt in the 1910s and 20s. (of course, "right-wing" back then was associated with machine politics and big business, the banner for which was carried by bosses such as Boies Penrose) Many on the left during the 1910s–20s ended up on the "right" by the 40s; for example, Clare Hoffman was registered with the Bull Moose Party in the age of TR, yet was the most right-wing congressman (99% conservative record!) during his U.S. House tenure; another would be Hiram Johnson, whose leftist credentials continued into much of the New Deal, until he finally broke with FDR and established a firm anti-Roosevelt voting habit.
Let me interrupt to show a flaw in your historical analysis: "99% conservative record". You introduce a concept without properly qualifying if that analysis of a "conservative record" is based upon contemporaneous analysis or contemporary analysis, cause the meaning or perception of "conservativism" has changed in 100 years (as "liberalism" has changed, too). Simple example: When the Republicans passed the 12th, 13th, and 14th Amendments, the so-called "Enfranchisement of the Negro Amendments", were they being "conservative" - preserving past values, "liberal" - a revolutionary force for change, or "progressive" - fostering human improvement? Again, everything does not fit neatly into your little ideological boxes. RobSGive Peace a chance 02:17, April 28, 2023 (EDT)
The reason for old-school progressives becoming "right-wing" is due to the New Deal; while in the eyes of outsiders such reasoning appears contradictory, they saw their pro-regulation and anti–big central government viewpoints, inspired by Jeffersonianism, as compatible. For example, the same liberals in those days who advocated public power, denounced by conservatives as socialism, often opposed anti-lynching legislation as violating "states' rights." And as the New Deal increasingly adopted the Hamiltonian approach of increasing direct federal government intervention, many progressives of the old rank became dismayed and disenchanted. The political ripples of World War II was what ultimately put an end to Jeffersonian progressivism—domestic wartime price controls, among harsh regulations, exemplifying an increasing centralized totalitarian state, pushed too far for the old-school leftists to tolerate. And, on a side note, it was those same political effects of WWII that resulted in the contemporary "left-wing = pro-civil rights, right-wing = anti-civil rights" mantra. The very same centralized statism of the New Deal during the war years began to forsake its previous accommodation of Southern racists and instead made civil rights advancements such as the enactment of the FEPC, thereby alienating progressive Southern Democrats such as Theodore Bilbo and John E. Rankin, whose voting records supposedly became increasingly "right-wing" (in reality, it was the defining designations for left and right themselves that drastically shifted). —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 19:01, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
I don't know what any of that has to do with the point raised in this subsection. Either conservatives must stand true to their principles and resist injustice and enslavement, or surrender to globalists and transgenderism. It seems pretty simple. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:11, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
You said my summary sounded like "gobbledygook," so I expanded a slight bit on the definition and history of "right-wing" populism. I normally don't have such a great opportunity to share my amassed understanding on this subject, so perhaps I'll continue on this... a bit later. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 19:22, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
I'm talking about today, here and now, moving forward. Under capitalism (which there is no alternative to) economic power accumulates in the hands of a few. In this sense, Marx was correct; whether that few are corrupt or the lazy heirs of people who built economic power, is a question for another time. I did not initiate a thread on disputed definitions of various historical social movements. You missed the point of this thread, which is my fault, I could have been clearer. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:14, April 27, 2023 (EDT)
Sufficiently comprehending history is imperative for a proper evaluation of contemporary politics. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 19:25, April 27, 2023 (EDT)
Then do it. If you don't understand that Russia today is Christian, and not communist, and that Zelensky shares with the Nazis the spirit of anti-Christ, I don't know what more I can say. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:17, April 27, 2023 (EDT)
I mean, this ain't rocket science. The same people who pushed the Russiagate conspiracy theory and the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation are the same people pushing the Satanic lies about Russia today, yet people willingly want to believe them. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:59, April 28, 2023 (EDT)

Shoot out between Wagner Group and Russian Soldiers

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-wagner-mercenaries-start-fighting-each-other-report-1796146

"Ashoot-out allegedly occurred between Russian soldiers and Wagner Group mercenaries over which side is to blame for Russia's failures amid the invasion of Ukraine, military authorities from Kyiv said on Sunday.

Russian President Vladimir Putin launched his "special military operation" on Ukraine last February. The Kremlin aimed for a swift victory over the Eastern European country, which at the time was perceived to have a smaller, less powerful military than Russia. However, after more than a year of combat, Moscow has struggled to achieve substantial goals in the war-torn country due to Western military aid provided to Ukraine." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:31, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Pure fiction. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:18, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Russian Soldier gets stabbed in the eye with a screwdriver from Ukrainian soldier!. There's more documentary evidence for this than for the Newsweek story. Why are stories like this timed for release to obscure other stories, for example, the Wagner groups' claim that a mutiny is taking place in the Ukrainian Army? Or the Western headlines and ad hominem attacks on Lavrov? To obscure news like this: Russian FM Lavrov's Harsh Speech at the UN shocked the United States and NATO countries.
We live in interesting times that a young person can use to learn how to review "news" with a critical and discerning eye (I learned it in the Vietnam/Watergate era) and not to accept wholesale any line of bilge. We've had several very good examples in recent weeks. One of the first questions when certain confusing stories or information designed to shock is released, is to ask, "Why now?". And the answer may not always be immediately apparent. For example, the Pentagon stories coming out about UFOs one month before the Chinese weather balloon, or the Russian stories about aerial ramming and fuel dumping 3 days before the Reaper drone incident. The answer is, these are not random stories out of the blue, but programmed information to steer a narrative. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:57, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

The propaganda war is no different than the battlefield - it is move and counter move. The Russians move with Russia Claims Ukr Troops Refuse Fight; NATO/Ukraine countermoves with Russian forces fighting each other, knowing most people have budgeted time to read only one story and will not shop and compare sources. The side with the longer media reach has the advantage. So if the Russians put out aa story with major consequences, NATO/Ukraine has to counter with a story of equal or greater impact, even if it means inventing one out of their butt just to obscure the new cycle. The difference here is Newsweek printed it with no sources or evidence and nobody repeated it, whereas the Russia story of mutinies in the Ukrainian Armed Forces grew legs is available from multiple outlets. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:00, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

Move and counter-move in the Propaganda war: Russian Defense Minister says NATO/Ukraine lost 15,000 in Bakhmut in April (for which there is abundant video and eyewitness evidence and testimony); Biden spox John Kirby, out of the blue, says Russia lost 100,000 in Bukhmut since December, for which there is no evidence or testimony. Coincidence this happens in the same 24 hour news cycle? if it wasn't for Western MSM censorship of the front and Russian media, we might have cause to doubt Russian sources. But we have ample evidence over the past 14 months to question anything and everything from Western sources, and in particular, John Kirby.

Lavrov receives blistering criticism over the Kremlin's Unjust War in Ukraine

In any city, town, or village the AFU entered, they went straight to the local schools to set up headquarters,[3] making the building a legitimate target per international conventions and rules of war. This was foundational to Ukraine's propaganda strategy and not its military strategy.

The world is waking up, as people pray and work to counter the Kremlin's disinformation and propaganda War against the Western and civilized world, to the human rights violations, tragedies and war crimes unfolding on the ground, for which Thugs like Lavrov are largely responsible.

"Russia’s Lavrov receives blistering criticism for the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine at UN The US and Western allies took turns slamming Russia for its ongoing war in Ukraine and accused Moscow of trampling over the U.N. Charter. Lavrov, who flew from Moscow to New York to preside over the Security Council, defended his country’s “special military operation” in Ukraine.

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, who sat next to Lavrov, criticized Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine and said it was in violation of international law." https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/24/lavrov-receives-criticism-for-war-in-ukraine-at-un.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:12, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Lavrov Stunned CNBS news journalist with his response about sanctions against Russia. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:10, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

Further excerpt from the above link: "U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield placed the blame squarely back on Russia during her opening remarks before the 15-member group.

“Our hypocritical convenor today, Russia, invaded its neighbor Ukraine and struck at the heart of the U.N. Charter,” Thomas-Greenfield said, referring to the U.N.’s founding document that vows to preserve sovereignty, peace, justice and the prevention of war.

“This illegal, unprovoked and unnecessary war runs directly counter to our most sacred principle: that a war of aggression and territorial conquest is never, ever acceptable,” she said. “Today it’s Ukraine, but tomorrow it could be another country, another small nation that is invaded by its larger neighbor,” she added.

In direct remarks to Lavrov, Thomas-Greenfield reiterated calls for the immediate release of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and former U.S. Marine Paul Whelan, whose sister attended the meeting.

“I want minister Lavrov to look into her eyes and see her suffering. I want you to see what it’s like to miss your brother for four years. To know he is locked up, in a Russian penal colony, simply because you want to use him for your own ends,” Thomas-Greenfield said." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:14, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Propaganda 101: (1) low on facts; (2) appeal to emotion. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:12, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
Let's see Thomas-Greenfield look the unarmed Russian soldier fighting for his country stabbed in the eye by a U.S.-funded Nazi raised on hate in eye. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:23, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
Hmm, in his early career, Lavrov worked as a Soviet diplomat. So it seems that he's a Communist. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 19:31, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
It's all crap. Russia took over chairmanship of the UN Security Council today. Blinken's State Department refused travel visas to Russian media travelling with Lavrov to New York as Russia will be setting the UN Security Council agenda for the next few months. It's not as if Western media had any credibility in these matters beforehand, in addition to its authoritarian and totalitarian censorship and human rights violations of the peoples of the world's right to know and be informed on issues of crucial importance. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:59, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
This is a classic example of an argumentum ad hominem - argument to the man and not about the facts of the case. The same garbage applied to Putin. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:05, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Human rights violations by the Western NWO don't justify Kremlin crimes. Two wrongs don't make a right. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 22:10, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Read your bible. The 70 year existence of the Soviet Union is akin to the 70 year Babylonian captivity of Israel, where the people of God had time to think about what changes would be made if God was ever gracious enough to deliver them from captivity.
Likewise, the 40 year (and 10 days) existence of the East German republic is akin to Israel's wondering in the desert for 40 years, a time of testing, for which they failed. Do you suppose these events, occurring virtually simultaneously, are mere coincidences, and God did not have a hand in them? RobSGive Peace a chance 22:24, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Hmm, interesting comparison. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 22:25, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Update: Reuters interviews new Nazi recruit code named "Adolf", a member of the Ukrainian SS (Spartan storm) battalion on April 20 to commemorate and celebrate Hitler's birthday. Gotta hand to Reuters and the Western MSM, they know how to do propaganda to send the message to Ukraine: 'We stand with you'. No wonder they won't allow fair and balanced reporting from New York and the UN by Russian media. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:49, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Prez. Zelensky mentions how Russia continues to destroy Ukrainian Churches, including Orthodox Churches, beside secular museums, and says a New Nuremberg is necessary: "Every act of 🇷🇺 terror, every day of aggression is an additional argument that all this must end in the Tribunal – in a new Nuremberg against ruscism... Against those who destroy lives and people, who use missiles against museums and guided bombs against churches." https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1650960946506919942
Illustration of Ukrainian tactics, illegally turning residential compounds into legitimate military targets, presented to the UN Security Council, May 6, 2022. [4]
TRUTH BEHIND “RUSSIAN STRIKES ON CIVILIANS” IN UKRAINE. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:49, April 28, 2023 (EDT)

"Russia destroyed more than 60 museums and galleries, as well as hundreds of churches in various regions of Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky said this in his address to the nation, Ukrinform reports.

“In total, more than 60 museums and galleries in different regions of our country have been destroyed or damaged by the occupier,” Zelensky said." https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3700726-russia-destroyed-hundreds-of-churches-more-than-60-museums-and-galleries-in-ukraine-zelensky.html Putin's behavior here is not Christlike. It is Thuggish. It is neo-Communist and smacks of wanting to rebuild the failed and Communist Soviet Union.

Before he invaded, Putin complained sardonically about Ukrainian De-Communization. He claimed actual de-communization means the destruction of their right to exist as a sovereign state. He is finding out now himself what de-Communization is: "Now grateful descendants have demolished monuments to Lenin in Ukraine. This is what they call de-communization. Do you want de-communization? Well, this quite suits us. But you must not stop halfway. We are ready to show you what genuine de-communization means for Ukraine," Putin said in his address to the nation over the situation in Ukraine’s southeast." https://tass.com/politics/1407587 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:24, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

This question has been covered a long time ago, including by WaPo and Amnesty International. Ukraine illegally uses civilian residential complexes, schools, hospitals, churches, and museums as firing points, turning those buildings into legitimate military targets under the international rules of war. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:36, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
Most importantly it needs to be noted, these war crimes are the result of NATO training - Ukraine was trained by NATO and the US to use these tactics and commit these war crimes. And the schools, churches, residences, hospitals etc. are in Russian speaking areas, among civilian populations sympathetic to the Russian cause. Ukraine and NATO are conducting a genocidal war against Russian-Ukrainians and Russian culture. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:42, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
This is how Zelensky drafts soldiers for the Bakhmut meatgrinder, and they specifically target Russian speakers. These clips are just from today in Odessa and Kiev. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:31, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
A year ago in these archived talk pages we had the bs arguments cut and pasted from the same bs mainstream sources about the patriotic Ukrainian nationalists proud to fight for Ukraine. They are all dead now. So the Zelensky regime has resorted to kidnapping men, 16-60, off the street to feed the meatgrinder. Cause if the Zelensky regime doesn't appear to be fighting, or willing to fight, the flow of money from the Washington gravy train (which doesn't make it the front anyway) gets cut off. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:43, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
Life Lesson: Don't be rude to the Russian sniper or you will get denazified! RobSGive Peace a chance 00:28, April 26, 2023 (EDT)
On the front lines, the troops are very close to each other. They can see and talk to each other, and don't engage or advance until commanded to do so. The general rule is, 'Live and let live.' In this clip, somebody from the Russian side evidently shouted something to the Ukrainians as they were preparing their bunker and the Ukrainian flipped them off. A Russian sniper, observing from quite a distance (it took 2 seconds for the bullet to travel) picked him off. Best not have an attitude, even in war. RobSGive Peace a chance 12:14, April 26, 2023 (EDT)

What happened a year ago is not relevant to the present situation. More on this below. The fact is the Kremlin is committing war crimes including destroying religious buildings and targets of non-military value, including those that had no weapons in them whatsoever. The Kremlin does whatever it wants and then, when questioned, uses some sophistry like "they were hiding weapons" in them as a justification. That might have been true in 1 or 2 out of 500 buildings. It certainly wasn't true in all of them. The Kremlin deserves to lose this War. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:25, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

Yes it is - when you're using the same false disinformation sources.
Updates just from today:
AFU SLAUGHTERS CIVILIAN FISHERMAN IN COLD BLOOD WITH DRONE - FILMS IT AND BRAGS ABOUT IT.
Mariupol evidently is not fully de-nazified yet.
Human rights violations in Odessa. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:37, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

Russia is on the brink of catastrophe - Prighozin

I predict May is going to be a wondrous month for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Here is what Prighozin said:

""Russia is on the brink of catastrophe." Prigozhin issued an ultimatum to Shoigu and threatened Putin with military mutiny

Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the PMC "Wagner", wrote a letter to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, demanding to provide ammunition. Prigozhin gave an ultimatum that if the problem with supplies for his PMC is not solved, he will complain to Putin, and the mercenaries will leave their positions in Bakhmut and retreat.

"I appeal to Shoigu with a request to immediately issue ammunition. In case of refusal, I consider it necessary to inform the Supreme Commander-in-Chief (Putin) about the existing problem in order to make a decision and about the advisability of further presence of the "Wagner" PMC in Bakhmut in conditions of ammunition shortage. <...> The deadline for making a decision is today, April 28," Prigozhin said.

The leader of the mercenaries said that "ammunition is no longer left for weeks, but for days." "If the shortage does not stop, <...> part of the units we will be forced to withdraw from this territory, and then everything else will collapse," Prigozhin said.

According to his prediction, Ukraine's offensive will begin no later than May 15. "We need to stop deceiving the population and telling them that everything is fine with us. <...> I must honestly say: Russia is on the brink of catastrophe," Prigozhin stressed."

From: https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1652367108745965578 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:26, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

Wow. Are you saying Russia has free speech, an open uncensored media, and free exchange of ideas? Amazing. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:42, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
ZERO EFFICIENCY: PRIGOZHIN HARSHLY CRITICIZED PMCS SET UP BY RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS. This is a full English language transcript of Prigozhin's 26 minute interview. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:47, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
The Wagner PMC is not the only one operating on the Ukrainian front lines. Inspired by Prigozhin’s example, some representatives of the Russian elite created their own private armies. Their units are already deployed in the Donbass, including in the Bakhmut region, ordered to secure flanks of Wagner fighters who are advancing in the city. However, the effectiveness of the new Russian PMCs turned out to be low.
Prigozhin gave an interview revealing the truth about his ‘colleagues’, their true goals and incompetence, which does not help but put obstacles for Wagner fighters:
RobSGive Peace a chance 15:48, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
IOWs, the newly created, competing PMCs are competing for munitions and manpower, which Prigozhin is criticizing.
Russia's ability to adapt on the battlefield to changing circumstances has always been one of its key major strengths, a strength and ability Germany, NATO, and the United States can only wonder about and envy. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:52, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
The Mozart Group, created by an American, didn't last 90 days. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:55, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
Basically, this is how democracy and a free press operates. Prigozhin, who is regarded as somewhat of a national hero, is appealing for popular support to get the government to limit and regulate his competition. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:04, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
Emil Cosman: End of Wagner. "Wagner Group will cease to exist soon." Yevgeny Prigozhin says. Cosman always has an interesting take. Prigozhin is not talking about Russia, he's talking about his own organization. This even relates to the Sudan crisis. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:34, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

Free speech? Listen to a True Vladimir - Vladimir Kara Murza - tell you how wrong you are: "One year ago, Russian journalist and democracy leader Vladimir Kara-Murza was arrested outside his home in Moscow for denouncing the war in Ukraine. He now faces 25 years in prison with sentencing to come on April 17, following a closed-door trial—simply for speaking the truth. Russian authorities must immediately release him and all those who have been wrongfully detained by the Putin regime for baseless and politically-motivated charges.

“One day, [Russia] will have a government it deserves, a government that respects and represents its own people,” said Kara-Murza of the future of Russia during a 2018 event, believing that every voice matters. “We will continue to do everything we can to try to bring that day a little bit closer.” Watch the Video too: https://youtu.be/6MQkCVkyHHQ Both from: https://www.ned.org/watch-imprisoned-russian-journalist-faces-25-years-for-speaking-truth/ One Day, the Judgment of Almighty God will fall upon Putin, as it fell on Hitler and Stalin.

Russia has a Post-Putin Future. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Navalny, Kara Murza, Kasparov or just about anyone would make a better Russian President and human being than he has been. Don't forget Boris Nemtsov either and his heroic and tragic death too, for being an outspoken critic of Stalinist Putinism. Free Speech? Hardly. Here's the source: "The opposition politician, who was a staunch critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s authoritarianism and his 2014 annexation of the Crimean peninsula, was killed in a drive-by shooting by hired assassins as he was walking on a bridge near the Kremlin with his girlfriend on Feb. 27, 2015." https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/27/floral-tributes-to-murdered-opposition-leader-reported-across-russia-a80347

Anton Gerashchenko maintains the Ukrainian Nazi kill list.[5]

Coming back, as the Nazis were defeated in D-Day, as Communists were pushed back from Poland before the Soviet Union Fell, so too, Putin's autocratic reign will also come to an end one day. God alone knows when, but many good people everywhere pray and work for that day NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:58, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

The Nazis were defeated well before D-Day, by the Soviets at Stalingrad. The US & Brits never made it to Berlin. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:20, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
Here's the Video of Prighozin himself embedded in a Twitter post: "Prigozhin gave Shoigu an ultimatum - if Wagner PMC doesn't receive ammunition, it will leave Bakhmut.

He gave Shoigu 24 hours to make that happen. And they ran out yesterday.

Waiting for the new episode in this show." https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1652410760499216389 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:52, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

That's good. Maybe NATO/Ukraine will take the bait and move troops from the planned Zaporozhe offensive south toward Mariupol and move them north to save Bakhmut. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:42, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
https://www.ned.org . Nuff said. Murza was a traitor convicted of taking money from NED, the CIA front, and conspiring to overthrow the government.
Moscow Times is no better. Another CIA propaganda front.
Really, you are not doing Murza any favors. You're digging the pit deeper for him. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:05, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
All you're doing above is documenting US violations of international law. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:07, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
  • Update: Prigozhin is baiting more Ukrainian forces into Bakhmut, and away from the NATO Zaporozhe offensive, by withdrawing the day after Victory Day celebrations. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:38, May 5, 2023 (EDT)

Gerashenko and the Ukrainian Nazi kill list

"As RFE/RL reported, former department head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) Roman Zaytsev was rumored to be the head of the project, with Member of Parliament and advisor to Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, Anton Gerashchenko, directing Myrotvorets’ operations. When asked in an interview with RFE/RL whether Myrotvorets was his brainchild, “Gerashchenko winked, chuckled, and replied: ‘No.’”

What I find interesting about this Digital Forensics Lab (DFL) report from 2017 is, I believe DFL is cited in our Fake news article as a group used to identify and censor alleged "fake news" sites.

Arsen Avakov is another Nazi war criminal the Russians are looking for (he's hiding out in his Italian villa right now, I believe). The CIA had him removed shortly before the 2022 Special Military Operation began. He held the position of Interior Minister (basically, gestapo chief) from the day before the 2014 Maidan coup removed President Yanukovych until the CIA told Zelensky to get rid of him in December 2021. He became too much of an embarrassment. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:18, April 29, 2023 (EDT)

Ah yes, here it is: Fake_news#DFRLab_definition:
The Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab which is partnering with Facebook to promote internet censorship defines fake news as “deliberately presenting false information as news.” We differentiate this from disinformation, which we consider to be "deliberately spreading false information;" fake news is thus a subset of disinformation. We further distinguish it from misinformation, which we take to mean the unintentional spreading of false information.[121]"
Who is the Atlantic Counsel? it is the civilian arm of NATO. So in 2017, when the term "fake news" first was popularized, the DFL reported on complaints by journalists, the Russians, and the civilian residents of Donbas being targeted for death by Nazis in the Ukrainian government. And Gerashenko, who Nishant takes as an authority, is the guy who maintains the kill list. Must not be "fake news", if the DFL corroborates the information. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:33, April 29, 2023 (EDT)
Fake news. I didn't take up anyone "as an authority". I simply shared a Twitter link in which Prighozin's video was embedded which happens to be Gerashchenko's. Stop deflecting. Either admit Prigozhin said that - which means Russia is losing - or give some explanation as to why he did not. If you want to know whom I most agree with in this fight, it is Conservative Catholic Poland - they fought both the Commies and the Nazis and know that both are godless thugs, and don't stand with either by and large. Here and there, there may be a few commies and nazis there, as there are in America or anywhere, but they have no power. Conservatives and Christians do, and thus their policies are based on Judeo-Christian principles and human rights. At one time, Poland was favorable to Russia joining NATO, when Russia seemed to be back on the path to democracy and out of autocracy. One would have to be willfully blind, however, to not recognize the blatant autocracy and human rights violations in Russia today, and accordingly Poland, after the Ukraine and the US, is one of the countries most opposed to the resurgence of Communism, Autocracy and Dictatorship in Soviet Russia. Pray for Russia to come out of it NishantXavierFor Christ the King 13:08, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
You posted the link without qualifying the source, who is a high level, high ranking member of parliament and the cabinet in the Ukraine government, and is a Nazi killer.
You evidently have no understanding of Poland and Polish history, either. "Communists were pushed back from Poland before the Soviet Union Fell." No they weren't. Polish communists controlled Poland, and Poland was a member of the Warsaw Pact. The Polish People's Army fought with the Soviet Union against the Nazis and formed the basis of the post-World War II government.
Your understanding of World War II and Cold War history is NATO/Nazi propaganda, originating with the extremist elements in modern Polish and Baltic intelligence services. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:18, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Back to Gerashchenko: "Either admit Prigozhin said that - which means Russia is losing - or give some explanation as to why he did not." Putin Sacks Deputy Defence Minister Of Logistics | ‘Butcher Of Mariupol’ Dismissed Over Wagner Ire? That's a long way from "Russia is on the brink of catastrophe - Prighozin" or " if Wagner PMC doesn't receive ammunition, it will leave Bakhmut."
Gerashchenko posts daily on YouTube which he describes as
"Every day I publish for you exclusive information about the situation at the front, in cities, real interceptions of telephone conversations of the occupiers and much more."
Who are these "occupiers"? They are not frontline troops. They are conversations of ordinary civilians, born in Ukraine with Ukrainian citizenship, but this government official in the Ministry of Interior calls them "occupiers". Can't get much more racist than that - denying the rights of citizens born in Ukraine, of their legitimate legal status based upon language or ethnicity. He is waging a genocidal campaign against his own people.
Here's Gerashchenko's YouTube posting today. [22]
Here's an alternative channel from Poland which does not support Polish extremism espoused by its government. [23]
You need to get away from these CIA/MSM/NATO/Nazi sources that you not only post here, but actually swallow, hook, line, and sinker. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:45, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Emil Cosman addresses the same issue: All Wagner troops will be pulled out from Bakhmut. Prigozhin threatens as Wagner runs low on ammo. You need to balance your analysis before giving carte blanche to Nazi propaganda. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:47, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Read Gerashchenko's dossier at https://tribunal.ru [24] His arrest to stand trial for war crimes over the past 9 years is a high level priority in Operation Denazification. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:18, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
In this dossier, you will encounter two familiar names: Artem Sytnyk and Serhiy Leshchenko, both convicted in a Ukrainian court of interfering in the 2016 United States presidential election. Nellie Ohr testified Leshchenko was the source of much of her bogus information. Trump impeachment whistleblower Eric Ciaramella invited Sytnyk to the Obama White House the day before President Trump was sworn in, presumably to lay out the plans to sabotage President Trump's presidency with bogus Trump-Russia allegations based on information from the neo-nazi Kyiv regime. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:01, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Non-sequiter: pre-21st century Polish history

Read this: "While celebrating Mass at Warsaw's Victory Square, John Paul drew the crowd's attention to the nearby tomb of the unknown soldier. "In how many places has he cried with his death," he said, "that there can be no just Europe without the independence of Poland marked on its map!" It was an astonishing political rebuke to the Soviets, who following World War II had installed communist governments across Eastern Europe that were "independent" in name only.

A few minutes earlier, in a rebuke of a different kind, John Paul had declared that "at any longitude or latitude of geography, the exclusion of Christ from the history of man is an act against man." In response, the crowd had begun to sing, "We want God….We want God."

On the other side of the world, former California Gov. Ronald Reagan was gripped by these events. "I have had a feeling," he later wrote, "particularly in the pope's visit to Poland, that religion may turn out to be the Soviets' Achilles' heel." https://reason.com/2021/11/20/the-pope-who-helped-bring-down-communism/

President Raegan, Pope John Paul II and President Lech Walesa of Poland, and the Solidarity Movement, helped bring down Communism in Eastern Europe. I would also advise listening to Eastern European leaders like Sanna Marin and Kaja Kallas more. Their countries have suffered under Soviet domination and they know much better what's really going on today. Estonian PM Kaja Kallas recently said that the Soviets have not really changed since Cold War days: "Being small has never stopped #Estonia from helping our friends in need.

That was my message in the interview to @ICTV_Fakty in Kyiv.

We continue to support #Ukraine on its way to victory and to the Euro-Atlantic family. Watch here (in Ukrainian): https://youtu.be/vb2zkepAsa0" https://twitter.com/kajakallas/status/1652234472442544128 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:02, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Who's threatening Polish independence now? RobSGive Peace a chance 18:09, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Bottomline: it's simply racist bigotry to imply Christian Russia are atheist communists today. And frankly, I'm getting tired of it. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:11, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Russia is threatening Ukrainian Independence and Sovereignty. Poland and Ukraine are together fighting back. Nobody said Russia is atheistic Communist today. But Communist figures like Stalin are still held as "heroes" when in fact they were terrorists who killed millions of people including both Russians and Ukrainians. We wants Russians and Ukrainians to live in Peace, Freedom and Brotherhood, but Thug Putin is opposing that with his unjust wars of aggression. There will be a Post-Putin Future, with a true Russian leader. Putin is not it. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:21, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine lost its independence and sovereignty to the United States in the 2014 US-back coup. Stalin beat Hitler. Why are you a Hitler apologist? RobSGive Peace a chance 18:26, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
You need to read this article: Western betrayal. This is Polish history prior to its accession to NATO. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:30, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Here's the bottomline: Crimea is supposedly part of Ukraine because the communists stole it from Russia and gave it to the Ukrainian SSR without a democratic referendum. Who is arguing for the communist position now, today? RobSGive Peace a chance 19:30, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

US should supply F-16 to Ukraine to end the stalemate and win the War, former US Air Force Colonel says

"F-16s are "critical" to rapidly defeat Russia, retired Air Force Col. Jeff Fischer told the Kviv Post.

It would only take two to six months to train Ukrainian pilots to use the jets, Fischer argued.

The Biden administration previously said it would not send the US-made fighter jets to Ukraine.

American-made F-16 fighter jets would help Ukraine defeat Russia and rapidly end the drawn-out conflict, according to an experienced former US Air Force serviceman.

In an exclusive interview with the Kyiv Post, retired Air Force Col. Jeff Fischer laid out his thinking on why the US should provide F-16s to the war-torn country.

"I have come to the conclusion that F-16s or a fourth-generation multi-role fighter is critical for Ukraine, and there's a simple reason why," Fischer said in an interview this week.

"If you can dominate in the battle space and in the air domain, we can get away from this air parity, which exists right now," he added.

Fischer served for over 30 years in the US Air Force and completed seven combat tours.

While it may seem "counterintuitive," using greater force or having "air dominance" is actually likely to "bring the war to an end much faster," he said.

"Send F-16s to Ukraine so Russia can be defeated now," he added."

From: https://news.yahoo.com/us-supply-f-16-fighter-142118992.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:55, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

You will be nuked. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:04, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Personally, I'm getting tired of this Nazi/MSM propaganda being posted here. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:07, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Russia should withdraw to its own territory. Nuclear Terrorism does not work nor scare people anymore. Ukraine will not stop fighting until it does, and Ukraine's supporter will keep countering the Kremlin's propaganda. Russia has blatantly violated the Budapest Memorandum where it swore it would not attack or threaten aggression against Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up its Nuclear Weapons to Soviet Russia. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:23, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine never had nuclear weapons. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:33, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Here's what's really happening. It has nothing to do with freedom, democracy, bla bla bla. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:50, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
Update: Ukraine/NATO has lost 1,000-1,200 men in the past 2 days, including strikes on command and centers and ammo dumps. Losses of men and material to Ukraine/NATO at this point are irreplaceable. The impact on its alleged "Spring-Summer" offensive scheduled to begin on or about Victory Day or shortly thereafter remains to be seen. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:17, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

If Russia wins and Ukraine falls, Central Europe could be next

"“If Russia wins and Ukraine falls, Central Europe may well be next.”

@P_Fiala, @MorawieckiM, and @eduardheger —prime ministers of the Czech Republic, Poland, and Slovakia, respectively—urge the West to stay the course in Ukraine." https://twitter.com/ForeignAffairs/status/1652191575449927681

Main Article: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/free-world-must-stay-course-ukraine/ "The Free World must stay the course on Ukraine" NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:27, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

More neo-nazi Russophobia. RobSGive Peace a chance 18:32, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
What a big smelly pile of crap this is. It's like, "Hitler was going to invade North America", yah, when he didn't even have the ships or manpower to cross the 22 miles of the English Channel. I mean, use your head when you hear this kinda of BS. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:42, May 1, 2023 (EDT)

Excerpt: "We also share Washington’s concern for freedom and security in the Indo-Pacific. Security is a global challenge, as is our common fight for democracy and freedom. If Europe is to remain whole and free, American involvement and leadership will remain crucial. Yet resolve in support of Ukraine will also help deter aggression in other parts of the world, sending the message that tyrants will not be appeased, be it in Europe, Asia, or anywhere else. That message will be especially clear when Ukraine wins and Russia is defeated.

History has its moments, and this is one of them. That is why we in Europe have stepped up to do more, in service of a united Europe and a renewed transatlantic relationship. And it is why we must stay the course in Ukraine, defeating the dark forces of revanchism and supporting Kyiv until victory." NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:30, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

If Ukraine falls, Communist China will almost certainly invade Taiwan too. That's why defeating Russia could deter Communist Chinese Aggression also and is so important. If you keep running away out of a misguided isolationism, or unwillingness to spend like 0.5%-1% of GDP supporting the defenders, sooner or later, there will be a higher price to pay. Freedom is not free. It must, from time to time, be purchased with courage and sacrifices, by defeating invaders. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:30, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Russia will not lose and cannot lose. The sidewalks in front of your house will melt first. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:35, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Russian subs were milling around Nordstream

I love this headline: "Photos Place Russian Submarine Rescue Vehicle and Mini Sub Near Nord Stream Explosion; Sy Hersh Hardest Hit." PeterKa (talk) 23:27, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

BS. And Red State has no credibility on the subject. Red State doesn't want to get "Tuckered", so it goes along with the narrative. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:29, April 30, 2023 (EDT)
NATO at the moment is trying to provoke war between Russia and Poland, so they can attempt to destroy the Russian Black Sea fleet (probably in the next two weeks) with F-16s likely from Rumania. It would be the first head-to-head matchup between F-16s, possibly F-22 Raptors, and Russian S-400, S-500, and S-550s. The MIC wants Russia to show its hand for further development of the F-35. Zelensky's statement, "with or without F-16s" should be clue. Yah, there will be F-16s, only not with Ukrainian pilots. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:36, April 30, 2023 (EDT)

Bridges for Ukraine

It seems that the Ukrainian army is planning to do a lot of advancing in the near future: "On The Eve Of A Possible Counteroffensive, the Ukrainian Army’s Wish List Includes Bridges, Bridges And More Bridges." The Ukrainians have $400 million to fund purchases and the specs say that the bridges need to be able to carry 70 tons, the weight of a Leopard 2 or Challenger 2 tank. PeterKa (talk) 22:57, May 3, 2023 (EDT)

These are not bridges in the sense that you and I understand what a bridge is. These are pontoons and other means to facilitate the Kherson offensive across the Dneiper river and also an attack on the Zaporozhe power plant. The US Army Corps of Engineers thinks it can restore the Nova Kharkova bridge in 12 hours; last September the UK trained some 600 saboteur terrorists in 7 groups of 64 each to cross the Dneiper for an assault on the nuclear power plant. Having failed and learned from that experience, this year's assault requires much more manpower and landing craft.
So this request for funding for bridges is not what ordinary people think of as a "bridge". Any semi-permanent structure, massed amphibious vehicles and landing craft will face a new threat, the glide bombs. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:21, May 5, 2023 (EDT)
Rusia and the US/UK have two entirely different army military doctrines. Russia has a continental army, which is built to adapt to changing political situations across a wide field; the US/UK have expeditionary armies, which are designed for limited political objectives within limited geographical regions. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:39, May 5, 2023 (EDT)

"The Greatest Threat to European Security is Russian Imperialism"

""The greatest threat to European security is Russian imperialism" - the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic, Jan Lipavsky. Interview

The West should not give in to Russia and should continue to support Ukraine, according to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic, Jan Lipavsky, who is visiting Washington these days. In the American capital, he met, among other things, with US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. In a conversation with the Ukrainian service of the Voice of America, he emphasized that the allies should support Ukraine "until victory", and warned that even after the Ukrainian victory, the Russian threat will not disappear. Natalka Churikova spoke with him in the Washington studio of the Voice of America.

The conversation has been edited and shortened for clarity and flow.

Natalka Churikova, Voice of America: You are in the USA, but many topics at the negotiations in Washington concern Ukraine and . You were in Ukraine before the invasion, and you returned to Ukraine last July. Now the new president of the Czech Republic, Peter Pavel, visited Ukraine. Have you exchanged impressions about what is happening in Ukraine?

Jan Lipavsky, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic: I did not have the opportunity to talk to President Pavel after his visit to Ukraine, because when he returned, I was already on my way here, to the USA. But from his statements to the media, I think it's clear that he understands and feels what it means to be the target of an invasion. He was a professional soldier. Served in peacekeeping missions in the Balkans. So he understands what it means to live in war.

N.C.: When you met with Secretary of State Blinken, you talked about Ukraine and your country's support for Ukraine, as well as about the refugees that the Czech Republic has accepted, about 500 thousand Ukrainians and help for them. But on the other hand, you see, many people now say that the Ukrainians are taking resources from the Czech Republic that can be used within the country. What do you say to these people?

Y.L.: During our meeting with State Secretary Blinken, I thanked him for all the support that the United States provides to European security, to the security of Ukraine. As for Czech aid to Ukraine or Ukrainians fleeing to the Czech Republic, such statements are complete nonsense. First of all, we are people, we want to be in solidarity. And Ukrainians did not just decide to leave their homes. It is the Russian army and Putin started bombing their houses. That's why they had to flee. This is the situation, and you should not turn a blind eye to it.

I want to say that we welcomed the Ukrainians with open arms. We provided them with all the necessary means - from housing to access to medical care. Also, it was mostly women and children, so the children go to school and the women work. So we have a lot of people working and helping our economy."

From: https://ukrainian.voanews.com/a/czechia-ukrajina-blinken-lipavsky-nato/7077551.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 22:23, May 4, 2023 (EDT)

"The West should not give in to Russia and should continue to support Ukraine," that will only work so long the Ukrainian regime exists. The Ukrainian people are tired of it.
And then look at the source: extremist elements. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:38, May 4, 2023 (EDT)
Then look at the publisher: ukrainian.voanews. Ukraine VOA news has been a CIA operation since it was founded. Deep State conspirator and Trump-Russia hoaxer Alexandra Chalupa' s sister works on air for Ukraine VOA news for at least 30 years. This organization was founded by members of the Gehlen Organization, and retains those associations with CIA under different names. More extremists, only in this case, with direct links to Ukrainian Nazis. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:46, May 4, 2023 (EDT)
While Nazism and fascism were defeated in the West in France, Germany, and Italy (the EUs three biggest economies), the ideology and political groups were never defeated in Ukraine. They survived the period from 1945-1991 under Soviet suppression, comprised Ukraine's first "democratic" parliament, and are in control of Ukraine today. They are not democrats or believe in democracy - they are rebuilding the union of government and corporate interests with BlackRock, otherwise known as "fascism" which was defeated in Western Europe and Japan in the last century. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:58, May 4, 2023 (EDT)
Let's look at a fascist organization which has survived and tried to rehabilitate its public image: Volkswagen. Originally founded as a state-run enterprise by Hitler to provide cheap automobiles to the common man using Henry Ford's innovations in mass production during the Great Depression, and to create jobs for German workers, it has since become fully privatized. It is the largest car manufacturer in China, larger than any Chinese domestic car producer or any other foreign competitor (Ford, Toyota, General Motors, etc). During WWII, just as in the United States, car manufacturing ceased, the plants were converted over to munitions plants. Volkswagen used Nazi slave labor (the company would not have survived without slave labor, being German worker shortages caused by the war left no one else to employ). Unlike I.G. Farben, this fascist entity has never been scrutinized outside Germany. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:54, May 5, 2023 (EDT)


Ray Epps goes on 60 Minutes

For years, the MSM has assured us that Ray Epps was a simple man looking for the quiet life. Turns out, they were lying. You don't go on 60 Minutes if you are looking for the quiet life. He wants everyone to know about his starring role on January 6, whatever it was. If he was Trump supporter, he would have gone on Tucker Carlson by now. So that claim was a lie too. It's the old Anita Hill playbook. PeterKa (talk) 13:23, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Tucker I believe has even said they tried to contact Epps for comment but he refused to reply. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:37, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
The segment is online now. Epps was a "passionate Trump supporter," don't you know. Why did he tell protestors to go into the Capitol? "I said a lot stupid things," he told CBS. Why did he claim to have "orchestrated" the demonstration at the Capitol? "I shouldn't have used that word," he said. Ok, give us a better word. The segment tells us that Epps wasn't "important enough" to be included in the report of the January 6 committee. Who believes this? Certainly not CBS. If they did believe it, they wouldn't have produced a segment of the kind.
The segment alludes vaguely to "right-wing conspiracy theories." But it doesn't explain why anyone would care about Epps and his mystifying behavior. Come on, did Pelosi recruit feds like Epps to orchestrate the attack and gin up an American Reichstag fire? PeterKa (talk) 23:58, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
60 Minutes Hit Piece Backfires In Humiliating Fashion. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:39, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Why Biden's days are numbered

The Deep State and intelligence community has turned on Joe Biden as a result of the Nordstream pipeline attack. Biden did it on his own without the knowledge or approval of the deep state. So they are looking for an alternative to Biden, which is not RFK, Jr.. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:04, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

RFK Jr. said in his announcement speech that the United States created ISIS. So that factoid has been raised from a racist rightwing anti-Obama conspiracy theory to a mainstream liberal Democrat talking point. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:21, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Christian nationalists - wanting to put God into US government

From: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63902626

Christian Nationalism? Jesus Christ is King of kings. Our Lord has a right to public worship in Christian-majority countries. The freedom and human rights of all people must be respected, but so must the Divine Right of Almighty God to receive public worship as Lord and King. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:48, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

BBC now. Wow. Now that's a credible source. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:53, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
The problem with Christian Nationalism is that it violates the spirit of Mark 12:17, where Jesus told the scribes, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s." "Christian Nationalism" simply guises itself as "restoring the country to God" when it seeks to impose a theocracy, merging Christianity with patriotic nationalism. Remember, at the time of Jesus, there was fermenting Jewish agitation towards the Roman civil authority, yet what did Christ speak out against? Not Roman oppression, but Pharisaic apostasy. Devotion to God and prioritization of chauvinism are incompatible; no one can serve two masters. (Matt. 6:24) —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 20:56, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Christ never preached no separation of Church and state. The Kingdom of God is an Absolute Monarchy. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:12, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, okay, so now you're denying the Scriptural authority of Mark 12:17. Nice to see whose side you're really on. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:16, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Douay-Rheims:
No man, being a soldier to God, entangleth himself with secular businesses; that he may please him to whom he hath engaged himself.
Your teaching of the bible justifies Hitler, Stalin, and the CCP: "Be subject to the powers that be." RobSGive Peace a chance 21:18, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Your understanding of scripture essentially disregards God's grace in favor of law and legalism. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:20, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
I never argued that the writings of the Apostle Paul provide a valid defense of Hitler, Stalin, and similar dictatorial mass murderers. You are a pernicious liar, just like your father the devil.
“ You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. ”

—John 8:44

—LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:27, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Right there - you're misusing and misquoting the scripture. I never claimed any lineage to the Abrahamic covenant, as the Jews to whom Jesus was speaking to did (We be not born of fornication, Abraham is our father.) I'd be careful about shooting from the hip like that with scripture, and not make it a habit. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:50, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
If I were you, I'd be careful about not being an apostate comsymp Putin cultist who falsely accuses others of "justifying Hitler, Stalin, the CCP." Also, in John 8, Jesus was speaking to the Judeans, not "Jews" as a whole. The Greek term hoi Ioudaios in most instances when used in the New Testament should be validly translated as "the Judeans," not "the Jews." —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:55, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
He was speaking to the Jews who claimed a right to be in God's family by being Abraham's children (basically, racism). And the question being raised there is also answered in John chpt 1, As many as received him, Which were born, not of blood (children of Abraham), nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man (like Ishmael), but born of God.


The Bible says: "Blessed [fortunate, prosperous, and favored by God] is the nation whose God is the LORD, The people whom He has chosen as His own inheritance." [Psa 33:12, Amp. KJV]. Notice how it refutes the liberal error that nations cannot be Christian, only individuals. It doesn't say only "blessed is the man/woman whose God is the Lord", but the nation that enthrones Him as Lord and King. He is the True God and Only Savior and because of His Supreme Sacrifice of Love on the Cross, is entitled to receive public/national worship.

President Lincoln nobly said this, mentioning how indeed Blessed is that Nation whose God is the Lord: "We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth, and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us.

It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do by this my proclamation designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. And I do hereby request all the people to abstain on that day from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite at their several places of public worship and their respective homes in keeping the day holy to the Lord and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion." https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-97-appointing-day-national-humiliation-fasting-and-prayer#:~:text=Intoxicated%20with%20unbroken%20success%2C%20we,pray%20for%20clemency%20and%20forgiveness.

Today, the choices are simple: it's Christendom or Communism. Tertium non datur. Either we will have the Godless Left, with its Radical Pro-Abortion Agenda, now rabidly promoting Genital Mutilation in the form of so-called transgenderism, even to young children without parental consent, and causing women to suffer all kinds of perverts being in their washrooms etc, or we will have Christendom.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:31, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

I only wish reality was that simple, though evil masquerades itself in numerous variants and not only Communism. When the beast system is soon established, it will be done in the name of Christianity (blasphemy against God cannot occur without a false pretense of Christianity in some sense), not atheistic Communism. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:34, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) Early on, the Law of God commanded his people not be like the other people who surrounded Israel. The Lord God was both Israel's God and King. Israel was to be a peculiar people unto himself. But Moses prophesied that the people would one day rebel, and demand a king of their own flesh and blood. This would be a terrible day, and God would grant them their wish. So Samuel anointed Saul, cause he was the tallest. Man looks on the outward appearance, and not the heart.
Then God commanded the king not "multiply horses" (the horse being the biblical animal of war). "Multiply horses", i.e. create a military industrial complex that has to be taxpayer supported. Solomon multiplied horses.
So just because something is God-ordained, like civil government or a defense industry, doesn't mean it's good. God allowed these things to be created in response to the sinful rebelliousness of man and rejection of God's grace. So by your own choice, ye are under law, and not grace. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:35, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
Nice demonstration of psychological projection for the 666th or so time, RobSmith. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:39, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
If I was you, I'd pray on this scripture, sincerely:
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
and not be tossing around scriptures haphazardly, as is wont to be your habit. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:57, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
At the time you published that response, your local irony meter just exploded. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 21:58, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
God blessed me, and I can attest that verse from James is a promise you can take to the bank. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:09, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Hi LT. I disagree that the beast system will be established as some form of Christianity. Why? Because the Bible says no one can confess that Jesus Christ is Lord without the Holy Spirit, and anti-christ will not have the Holy Spirit. It says all who confess Jesus is Lord and believe He rose from the dead will be saved, and anti-christ will not be saved. 1 Cor 12:3: ""No one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit."; Rom 10:9-13: "If with your mouth you confess Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. . . . For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Again, it says whoever confesses Jesus Christ is the Son of God dwells in God, and God in him. This shall not be true of the beast etc. Finally, Anti-christ is the liar who denies that Jesus Christ is the Messiah, who denies the Father and the Son. This is true of 2 false religions, but non-Christian ones, i.e. Judaism and Islam. Here are the verses in Saint John's First Epistle: "Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God." (1 Jn 4:15); "20You, however, have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21I have not written to you because you lack knowledge of the truth, but because you have it, and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. 23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father, but whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well." (1 John 2)

God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 05:54, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant: Thank you. Very well stated, very clear and profound. And John also stated, every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already, i.e. it is not some future pie-in-the sky event. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:06, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
The manifestation of anti-Christ is future in the sense that anti-Christ has been in the world for 2,000 years since John wrote that, and is manifested in the spirits of false teachers and cults who deny the gospel of grace and preach legalism. RobSGive Peace a chance 06:13, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
NishantXavier, John's First Epistle also states at the beginning:
“ If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. ”

—1 John 1:6

Therefore, it's important to compare verses to one another so one doesn't apply their own interpretations and arrive at contradictory conclusions. It should be plain that this world is filled with tares who, despite admitting Jesus as the Son of God and claiming to be Christian, clearly aren't (reminds me of Rev. 2:9 and 3:9, "...who say they are Jews and are not") due to their rotten fruits. (Matt. 7:20) —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 10:26, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Well, anti-christ will come in the future and cause a great tribulation. Strength will be given him because of sins against the continual/daily Sacrifice: "And strength was given him against the continual sacrifice, because of sins: and truth shall be cast down on the ground, and he shall do and shall prosper." (Daniel 8:12); see also Mal 1:11. St. John was saying that, as Anti-Christ will come one day, so even now those sects that deny Jesus Christ is the Son of God, i.e. Judaism, Islam etc, are of Anti-Christ. Anti-Christ will also persecute Christians terribly, and as mentioned above, about 360 MN Christians are already persecuted in the world today, and roughly 80% of that persecution comes from Islamism. Hence, as St. John Damascene said, Islamism is a precursor of the Anti-Christ.

Sources: "There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist."...

"There are many other extraordinary and quite ridiculous things in this book which he boasts was sent down to him from God. But when we ask: ‘And who is there to testify that God gave him the book? And which of the prophets foretold that such a prophet would rise up?’—they are at a loss. And we remark that Moses received the Law on Mount Sinai, with God appearing in the sight of all the people in cloud, and fire, and darkness, and storm. And we say that all the Prophets from Moses on down foretold the coming of Christ and how Christ God (and incarnate Son of God) was to come and to be crucified and die and rise again, and how He was to be the judge of the living and dead. Then, when we say: ‘How is it that this prophet of yours did not come in the same way, with others bearing witness to him? And how is it that God did not in your presence present this man with the book to which you refer, even as He gave the Law to Moses, with the people looking on and the mountain smoking, so that you, too, might have certainty?’—they answer that God does as He pleases. ‘This,’ we say, ‘We know, but we are asking how the book came down to your prophet.’ Then they reply that the book came down to him while he was asleep. Then we jokingly say to them that, as long as he received the book in his sleep and did not actually sense the operation, then the popular adage applies to him (which runs: You’re spinning me dreams.) [106]

When we ask again: ‘How is it that when he enjoined us in this book of yours not to do anything or receive anything without witnesses, you did not ask him: “First do you show us by witnesses that you are a prophet and that you have come from God, and show us just what Scriptures there are that testify about you”’—they are ashamed and remain silent. [Then we continue:] ‘Although you may not marry a wife without witnesses, or buy, or acquire property; although you neither receive an ass nor possess a beast of burden unwitnessed; and although you do possess both wives and property and asses and so on through witnesses, yet it is only your faith and your scriptures that you hold unsubstantiated by witnesses. For he who handed this down to you has no warranty from any source, nor is there anyone known who testified about him before he came." http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_islam.aspx

"Most of the “extreme persecution” meted out to Christians in nine of the top 11 worst nations continues, however, to come either from Islamic oppression, or takes place in Muslim-majority nations. This means that approximately 80% of the absolute worst persecution around the globe takes place in the name of Islam." https://facingislam.blogspot.com/2023/02/raymond-ibrahim-never-ending-pandemic.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 08:59, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

The Antichrist has already been here for a long time. The Early Church Fathers recognized the restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2 as the civil authority of Pagan Rome; only once it dissolved, could the Antichrist come forth and be revealed. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 10:28, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
Anti-Christ is a spirit, not a single person in the flesh. RobSGive Peace a chance 12:11, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
John the Apostle's references to "antichrists" (uncapitalized) is in a generic sense, and thus can be understood as an evil spirit; however, the Antichrist (capitalized) is an institution. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 12:17, April 23, 2023 (EDT)
Yes. And that anti-Christ is here now - the civil government that is forcing transgenderism on ourselves and our children, and making war in Ukraine to exterminate people of Russian identity. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:32, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

The Anti-Christ is a person who physically rules for 3 1/2 years at the End of Time. Research Tribulation Week. This Anti-Christ will come from Islam. He will claim to be the Messiah and will be accepted by the Jews for a while: "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." (Jn 5:43). Fr. Haydock's commentary on that passage here, and what the Church Fathers say about it: "And you will not come to me. Christ now gives them reason why they do not receive him, and his doctrine, nor believe in him; because they are void of the love of God, full of self-love, envy, pride, seeking for praise and glory one from another. Hence you will not receive me, who come in the name of my Father, sent to redeem the world. But if another, such as false prophets, or even Antichrist himself, who will pretend to be the Messias, come in his own name, him you will receive. (Witham) --- It is proper to remark, that the testimonies here adduced all rise gradually one above another, and make a body of evidence that must leave the incredulous Jews without excuse: for they pay no regard to Jesus Christ himself, nor to John the Baptist, nor to the evidence of miracles, nor to the voice of God, nor to the Scriptures, nor even to Moses himself." https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/hcc/john-5.html

Whoever ignores the testimony that Anti-Christ will be the liar who denies that Jesus is the Christ, and denies the Father and the Son (and the Spirit, the Holy Trinity, as Judaism and Islam do), will be led astray. Anti-Christ will come from Islam and be accepted by Judaism temporarily as the Messiah. After that, the Jews will repent and then turn to Salvation in Jesus Christ and the Millennium of Peace begins. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 16:38, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

The 3 + 1/2 years (42 months) were already fulfilled in concordance with the historicist understanding of eschatology; in prophecy, a day corresponds to a literal year (Ezek. 4:6); the Hebrew tradition followed a lunar calendar, which counted 360 days in a year. 360 x 3.5 = 1,260; was there a power that ruled for 1,260 years and persecuted Christians? Yes. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 17:55, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Before I answer, do you condemn Judaism and Islam as two false anti-Christic religions that deny Jesus Christ is the Son of God? You have adopted several Judaizing errors. Remember the Judaizers were among the first sects condemned by the Apostles when they preached Circumcision and denied the Cross. "And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased." (Gal 5:11). Anti-Christ will come in the future, not in the past. Jesus Christ also said in Mat 24:14 that the Gospel would be preached in every nation before the End of Times comes: "And this Gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." (Mat 24:14) Some 2 billion people have not yet heard the Gospel: "The book "Future of the Global Church" has a section on the unevangelized. While the percentage of the world who are unevangelized has decreased, the absolute number of unevangelized has increased. The text on page 161 says "The disturbing truth is that there may still be nearly 2 billion individuals who have never had a chance to hear the Gospel." https://joshuaproject.net/resources/articles/has_everyone_heard Therefore Anti-Christ and the End of Time has not come yet. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:42, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Islam? Yes. Judaism? Well, remember that Christianity is essentially an outgrowth of Judaism; most variants of the religion nowadays have drifted away from the Old Testament (Tanakh) due to their rabbinical Talmudic adherence—while rabbinical Judaism is not true worship of the Lord, Messianic Judaism is.
Regarding the term "Judaizer," it's important to first distinguish between the moral and ceremonial law. The former is eternally binding, while the latter was a shadow that was fulfilled by Jesus. In the days of the early New Testament church, as recounted in the Book of Acts, the Pharisaic faction believed in strictly abiding by Mosaic law that was, by that point, unnecessary. Abiding by the moral law, which Christians are expected to do (John 14:15, 1 John 2:4), does not constitute "Judaizing." —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 19:01, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

I'm talking about Pharisaic Judaism, which Jesus Christ Himself, the Apostles in the Council of Jerusalem in 48 A.D. (see Acts 15) and St. Paul in his Epistles strongly condemn. Have you read the Toledot Yeshu and the blasphemies against Yeshua our Savior in it? As I told you on my homepage, if you read the Early Christian Church Fathers more, you will understand how Judaism worked to undermine Christendom right from the Apostolic Age, even after their Temple was destroyed for their disobedience in 70 A.D. as Jesus Christ prophesied. Here is St. Justin, the Martyr for Christ: "Chapter XVII.—The Jews sent persons through the whole earth to spread calumnies on Christians. “For other nations have not inflicted on us and on Christ this wrong to such an extent as you have, who in very deed are the authors of the wicked prejudice against the Just One, and us who hold by Him. For after that you had crucified Him, the only blameless and righteous Man,— through whose stripes those who approach the Father by Him are healed, —when you knew that He had risen from the dead and ascended to heaven, as the prophets foretold He would, you not only did not repent of the wickedness which you had committed, but at that time you selected and sent out from Jerusalem chosen men through all the land to tell that the godless heresy of the Christians had sprung up, and to publish those things which all they who knew us not speak against us.

So that you are the cause not only of your own unrighteousness, but in fact of that of all other men. And Isaiah cries justly: ‘By reason of you, My name is blasphemed among the Gentiles.’1986 And: ‘Woe unto their soul! because they have devised an evil device against themselves, saying, Let us bind the righteous, for he is distasteful to us. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their doings. Woe unto the wicked! evil shall be rendered to him according to the works of his hands.’ And again, in other words:1987 ‘Woe unto them that draw their iniquity as with a long cord, and their transgressions as with the harness of a heifer’s yoke: who say, Let his speed come near; and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel come, that we may know it. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put light for darkness, and darkness for light; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!’1988 Accordingly, you displayed great zeal in publishing throughout all the land bitter and dark and unjust things against the only blameless and righteous Light sent by God." https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.viii.iv.xvii.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:20, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Obviously, the form of Judaism held by the Pharisees was heretical. As for the writings of the Early Church Fathers, Justin Martyr's anti-Judaic polemic was rather excessive, (it appeared to the root of his attacks on Sabbath observance). As time passed on, the early church was eager to expediently vilify Jews en masse in an appeal to pagans they sought to win over. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Sunday, 19:25, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, that is the root of it, the Pharisees were heretics and denied Jesus Christ is the Son of God. They also tried very hard to corrupt Christianity, which is why Jesus Christ and His Apostles censured them so severely and warned so strongly about them: "7For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; 8But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; 9Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. 10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake." (Titus 1). St. Justin Martyr documents historical facts about what Jews did and how they collaborated with pagans in persecuting and slandering Christians. Please read about Justin the Apostate. Pagan nations like Ireland were converted to Christianity by Divine Miracles that Almighty God worked through Saints like Saint Patrick. Recall His Word in Holy Scripture, that His Saints would do even Greater Miracles than He did, because He goes to the Father, and by the Power of His Spirit: "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father." (Jn 14:12). Any false claim that Christianity was supposedly in error for 1500 years when God was confirming the Truth by the Power of His Miracles must be confirmed by greater miracles than those. Please read the actual history of the Saints who converted Europe for Christ. May God guide you. In Jesus' Name. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:24, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

It's true that the church during the age of Thyatira conducted great works (Rev. 2:19), though for over a millennium, extrabiblical doctrines have been mainstream, mainly Sunday observance, immediate judgment, and eternal torment. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 21:36, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

I dunno; you guys lost me with all this non-biblical speculation. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:47, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Supposed "end times" prophesy does not apply to anyone who inherits eternal life. With eternal life, there is no "end times". RobSGive Peace a chance 15:51, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

You're all speaking in the flesh. The flesh profiteth nothing. RobSGive Peace a chance 15:53, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

The discussion was about Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ comes at the End of Time. The best thing we can do to delay the advent of Anti-Christ is focus on completing the Great Commission. Read Mat 24:14. The Gospel is to spread to every nation before the End of Times, and thus the Anti-Christ, comes. That hasn't happened, so Anti-Christ won't come just yet. After it does, then he will. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:39, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

The antichrist is already here. Those who would deny the teachings of the New Testament, and the bible as a whole, are the spirit of antichrist. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:45, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
The Antichrist is already here; it's the beast system which hasn't appeared yet. Just as imperial Pagan Rome was the restrainer against the Antichrist, as the Apostles and Early Church Fathers contended, so is separation of church and state the current restrainer against the formation of the upcoming beast system. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 18:43, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Try as I may, I can't find "beast system" in any concordance. Are sure you are not speaking in the flesh, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men'? RobSGive Peace a chance 19:49, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

False, Judaized, Anti-Christian and practically Atheistic opinions. Separation of Church and State is an error. There is no separation of Church in State in Catholic Poland. That's why it's one of the most Pro-Life Nations in the world (and also very compassionate toward Ukrainian Refugees). Non-Separation of Church and State could have saved Millions of Lives lost in Abortions these last 50 years.

Pray more, my friend, spend more time praying to the Holy Spirit and asking Him to guide you as you read and study His Word. God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:08, April 24, 2023 (EDT)


“ Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s. ”

—Mark 12:17

If believing in separation of church and state as a Christian doctrine constitutes "Judaizing," then I guess Christ was the ultimate Judaizer. Also, speaking of Poland, it most certainly is leading the way... in the formation of the upcoming international Sunday law. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 19:25, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Nope. Brief Bible quiz for you: how many times, and in which passages, did Jesus Christ mention His Church in the Gospels? Quote them to me and give me your explanation of them. After that, I'll give you mine, and explain why Separation of Church and State is an error NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:35, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

"In a ceremony at the Church of Divine Mercy in Krakow last week, Jesus was declared the king of Poland.

The ceremony, attended by Poland's President Andrzej Duda, marked the end of the Catholic Church's Year of Mercy.

People from around the country came together and declared Christ king over their country and their hearts.

"In our hearts, rule us, Christ! In our families, rule us, Christ! ... In our schools and universities, rule us, Christ! ... Through the Polish nation, rule us, Christ! ... We pledge to defend your holy worship and preach Thy royal glory, Christ our King, we promise!" they prayed.

Their bold statement was a reminder that God comes before everything." https://www2.cbn.com/news/news/poland-declares-jesus-king-country If one's heart does not burn with a holy joy in seeing Christ enthroned as Lord and King of a Nation with public worship like that, there's something wrong. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:37, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, LT keeps misquoting that scripture. Jesus is saying render yourselves unto God, who is made in God's image. He's saying nothing about a man-made doctrine of separation of church and state. Jesus clearly said, That which is flesh is flesh, that which is spirit is spirit. Paul said, Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But LT, by putting man's fleshly wisdom in Jesus's mouth, thinks he's doing the Lord's work and pleasing God. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:59, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
What laughable irony! Just earlier on Andy's talk page, you took an Isaiah verse out of context in declaring that Sabbath-keeping is no longer necessary. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 21:09, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Then tell us what God meant when he said your assembling together for the sabbath is iniquity? RobSGive Peace a chance 21:23, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
[EC] I'm not interested in free-response pop quizzes. Mark 12:17 ought to make it abundantly clear that our obligations towards God and the civil authority are separate, and the very context relies on the presumption that the church and state are distinct institutions. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 19:39, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
The British Empire has done very well for hundreds of years without separation of church and state, with the King of England also the head of the Anglican Church. It has also done yeoman's work in bringing the gospel to much of the world. When separation of church and state was implemented by the Bolsheviks in Russia, the crap hit the fan. It has since restored the church to its rightful place in society. What LT is doing, is recycling 19th century Mormon and SDA propaganda, which has since become part of those groups' doctrine, which feared public demands for government to regulate cult activity and recruiting. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:20, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Very cute propaganda framing; it might interest you to know that European theocracies have a rap sheet of millions of saints ruthlessly slaughtered, and that subsequent religious liberty efforts led to the formation of the United States, founded on the lamb-like principle of separation of church and state as a barrier against state-enforced religious persecution. Also, perhaps it's time to coin a neologism along the lines of "RobSmith's First Internet Law": if you worship Putin, any assertions branding other groups as cults carry no weight. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 21:29, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
What I said is true. The First Amendment gave free reign for cults to flourish, not unlike the concepts of due process and innocent until proven guilty allow some criminals to beat the system. When these cults first emerged, there were public demands for the government to step in and regulate them because families lost a son or daughter to them. Mormonism, the SDA, and others responded by making the first amendment part of church doctrine, as if God had spoken it himself. They still teach that, but it makes little sense to people outside the US, and has no universal appeal or understanding. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:40, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, how sad, families "losing" a child to the truth because they actually found out about the Sabbath instead of engaging in Mithraist sun worship- er, I mean, Sunday observance. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 22:08, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Your new moons and sabbaths, your calling together of assemblies, away with it. I cannot bear it. It is iniquity. RobSGive Peace a chance 22:12, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
You're deceptively taking the verse out of context, and you know it. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 22:19, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
You've said that twice now. Now step up to the plate and tell us what God meant in that verse. Just as you have a right to criticize and accuse someone of deception, you also now have a duty to explain where I'm wrong. Otherwise, it's called "false witness". RobSGive Peace a chance 22:36, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
You've had decades of time to comprehend the full meaning of the Scriptures, so don't expect me to explain basics to you. And I'm sure you know a lot about false witness, since that's what you make a custom of practicing. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 22:39, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Go back and reread Proverbs: These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him... and I'm sure you know the fate of the accuser of the brethren.
Now Proverbs says, Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, building on James, If any if you lack wisdom...
Returning now to the main subject: there is a difference between me saying you are deceived, and you accusing a brethren of deception. I've never called you a liar, I just said you are unskilled in use of the word. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:59, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Of course Jesus is king, though, in His own words, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36) Attempting to turn secular government into God's kingdom is unbiblical. Spiritual Israel will eventually inherit and reign in a kingdom where Jesus is eternally Lord and king, though that has not happened yet. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 19:43, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

If you don't know, say so. The answer is 3 times in 2 passages, both in the Gospel of Matthew. Here they are in the KJV, with capitalization added. (1) "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but My Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this Rock I will build My Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Mat 16:17-18) (2) "17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the Church: but if he neglect to hear the Church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican." (Mat 18:17) What do these passages tell Christians, including leaders to do? Listen to the Church, or "separate the Church and the State"? Ignorance of Scripture, as St. Jerome said, is ignorance of Christ. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:48, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, context needs to be understood properly. Listening to the church in no way negates our duty to "render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's," such as paying taxes and not launching murderous French Revolution–style insurrections trying to overthrow the Capitol. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Monday, 19:53, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Giving to Caesar is about paying taxes in the money on which Caesar's image is. Giving to God is about adoration and worship of Almighty God, by offering Him our whole selves - we who bear the Creator's Image. Btw, I in no way support any violent revolt, including what happened on January 6. I fully support all peaceful protests, as everyone is entitled to. The Pro-Life Movement has been Peaceful for 50+ years, and the Pro-Life Movement is winning. Peace and Non-Violence are not only morally righteous, they're also effective, practical and produce results. We will overcome leftist evil, but we will do so in a Christian and righteous way, for the Glory of Christ our King. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:54, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, rendering to Caesar definitely entails paying taxes, though it does not negate the separation of church and state so clearly articulated. (also, don't worry, my side swipe about 1/6 is not directed at you) —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 21:09, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

More important than rendering to Caesar is listening to Christ's Church. What did Christ say in Mat 18:17 about those who refuse to listen to His Church? He said, to paraphrase, they're living in disobedience, and so will not be blessed. That is what "Separation of Church and State" preaches and prepares the way for practical godlessness. This is what is happening in the Once-Christian West today in a way that was unthinkable even 70 years ago. And read Mat 16:17-18 also and reflect on it. Recall what Psalm 1 says, the one who reads the Word AND MEDITATES on it day and night will be blessed in all that he does. Your opinion about Christ's Church is unBiblical. NishantXavierFor Christ the King

I'm... simply taking Christ's words in Mark 12:17 at their direct meaning. Again, listening to the church is not antithetical to rendering to Caesar. I recommend watching this lecture by brilliant researcher and speaker Walter J. Veith, particularly around the thirty-minute mark, where he begins to exhibit the sharply contrasting messages by theocrats and the separation of church and state as articulated by the Constitution, the lamb-like foundational block of the United States. Guess which system is coercive and the other liberating? —LT (Matthew 26:52) Tuesday, 22:08, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Atheistic Future? Not really. Some 84% of the world identifies with a religion

Let's Pray that Atheism continues to fail and the Christian Faith prevails in time. Right now, much of the world is still religious, not atheistic.

"Faith is on the rise and 84% of the global population identifies with a religious group. What does it mean for the future?

If you think religion belongs to the past and we live in a new age of reason, you need to check out the facts: 84% of the world’s population identifies with a religious group. Members of this demographic are generally younger and produce more children than those who have no religious affiliation, so the world is getting more religious, not less – although there are significant geographical variations.

According to 2015 figures, Christians form the biggest religious group by some margin, with 2.3 billion adherents or 31.2% of the total world population of 7.3 billion. Next come Muslims (1.8 billion, or 24.1%), Hindus (1.1 billion, or 15.1%) and Buddhists (500 million, or 6.9%).

The next category is people who practise folk or traditional religions; there are 400m of them, or 6% of the global total. Adherents of lesser-practised religions, including Sikhism, Baha’i and Jainism, add up to 58m, or well below 1%. There are 14m Jews in the world, about 0.2% of the global population, concentrated in the US and Israel."

But the third biggest category is missing from the above list. In 2015, 1.2 billion people in the world, or 16%, said they have no religious affiliation at all. This does not mean all those people are committed atheists; some – perhaps most – have a strong sense of spirituality or belief in God, gods or guiding forces, but they don’t identify with or practise an organised religion.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/27/religion-why-is-faith-growing-and-what-happens-next NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:56, April 23, 2023 (EDT)

According to a leading geopolitics expert, China will likely cease being a leading global power in about 10 years and could break up (See: Skepticism about China remaining a global power). Since most of the world's atheists are East Asians (See: Asian atheism) and the Chinese Communist Party plays a big role in this matter (See: China and atheism), a large part of world "atheistdom" could soon fold like an accordion. Why? Because China has state atheism. When the former Soviet Union dissolved, which had state atheism, public religiosity went dramatically up (see: Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union).
Let's play some celebratory accordion music of the future decline of atheism! Big John O'Neil played on an accordion! Yee! Ha! Conservative (talk) 06:00, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

Yup, the future of the world is Religious, not Atheistic. I wouldn't be surprised if the world Christian population hits 40% in the next 15 years or so - say by 2040 - while the world's population reaches 9 billion souls. And roughly 85%-90% will be Theists, not Atheists, especially because many atheists believe in abortion, birth control etc and have fewer children than believers. "Be fruitful and multiply", God said, and you will have dominion over the Earth. That includes the "spiritual multiplication" of Evangelism. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:28, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

Tucker Carlson Leaves Fox

Fox News goes full RINO: Tucker Carlson leaves Fox.https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/tucker-carlson-out-at-fox-news-network-confirms/ar-AA1ah2Gi?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c1e9ad244f0f44e78b8668fcbb048992&ei=19 --TheNewRight (talk) 12:20, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Video of his speech last weekend: "Over the weekend, Tucker Carlson described the battle between good and evil in our country.

We need more of this." https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/1650595832562077696 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:51, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

This has to be about politics, since Fox and Tucker were dominating the ratings. Tucker is Fox's No. 2 show after The Five. Fox is the dominant network with 2.3 million viewers in February 2023 compared to 1.2 million for MSNBC and 587,000 for CNN.
The Chicago Tribune was the Fox News of the 1950s and 1960s. After they went liberal in the early 1970s, we had to wait until Rush Limbaugh started broadcasting in 1988 for a conservative voice in mainstream media. PeterKa (talk) 19:17, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
True; we had Bill Buckley on PBS, but the stuff was too high-brow and intellectual. Alternatively, we had Ronald Reagan from Hollywood even before he was elected president. He was successful cause enough skepticism about MSM bias was built up in the Vietnam and Watergate eras. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:37, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

It's about time the networks ought to realize becoming liberal is not only morally wrong, it's also bad for business. There are probably 10s of millions of conservatives and Christians who would completely support your network and boost your ratings if only you dedicated yourself to countering radical leftism in every way. Shame that very few want to realize that. Oh well, it's an opportunity for those who will. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:34, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

This is O'Sullivan's First Law at work, as first posted here in 2015 and then specifically applied to Fox News in early November 2020: [25].--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:40, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

Yup, Andy. Well said. "First coined by John O'Sullivan in 1989, it states: "All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing."[1][2]".

Another way of saying it is: "you cannot be neutral between Light and Darkness without soon going blind". You have to take a side. When one side is defending life, freedom, faith and marriage, and other is promoting abortion-killing and genital mutilation, the Right is Right and the Left is Wrong. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 20:50, April 24, 2023 (EDT)

The firing is apparently related to a lawsuit that was filed last month that claims Carlson created a hostile work environment. "Carlson’s former head of booking, Abby Grossberg, said that male producers regularly used vulgarities to describe women and frequently made antisemitic jokes," according the NYT. "Ms. Grossberg also said in her lawsuit that after she was coerced by Fox’s lawyers into providing a misleading deposition in a recent defamation case brought by Dominion Voting Systems and defending an offensive text from Mr. Carlson, his producers emailed the rest of the staff in recognition of “Abby Day” and suggested ordering a staff lunch to celebrate."
The Grossberg suit is obviously part of the same legal harassment campaign as the Dominion lawsuit. The LA Times story dings Carlson for calling Ray Epps "a plant." Perhaps his lawsuit is on the way. PeterKa (talk) 21:35, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
One theory is Fox paid such a large settlement to Dominion to avoid having to make retractions. Firing Tucker and Bongino evidently was part of the settlement in absence of retractions.
Tucker ought to team up with James O'Keefe in his next move. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:54, April 24, 2023 (EDT)
Embarrassing texts came out during the discovery process of the Dominion lawsuit that Fox did not want repeated during a trial which they might have lost so they settled. For example, Tucker Carlson saying anti-Trump statements.[26] People say negative things about people all the time and you even have spouses complain against each other at times. This doesn't necessarily mean that Carlson is presently anti-Trump. For example, Tucker Carlson and Trump text each other regularly and their relationship is closer than ever, even after the now-ousted host was caught privately bashing the former president.
Also, Tucker Carlson texted anti-Fox management statements which were discovered during the discovery process of the Dominion case.[27] In many cases, if employees say anti-management statements, rightly or wrongly, the management will fire them even if it goes against their own best interest. Why? Because people often have egos.
God willing, Tucker will launch his own website, podcast, etc. which will be very successful and Fox will replace Carlson with a quality individual. If this occurs, it could be a net benefit for conservatism and the Republican Party. Long live a big and better GOP! Conservative (talk) 05:43, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
Since the death of Rush Limbaugh, Carlson has become the spokesman for Conservative America. The question now is, will he pass the mantle or what is he going to do to fight to keep it? RobSGive Peace a chance 12:21, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

Update: This is probably the best explanation of why Tucker was fired: Tucker TORCHES The Ruling Class as Fox News Loses BILLIONS. Conservative (talk) 12:38, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

Remember: A picture is worth a thousand words https://www.conservapedia.com/images/3/39/HillaryRupert1V.jpg --TheNewRight (talk) 14:36, April 25, 2023 (EDT)
  • Okay, I guess that explains it: "Blackrock Owns 15.1% of the Fox Corporation." Blackrock and Vanguard together own 21 percent of Fox compared to 19 percent for the Murdock family trust. Bush's 2008 banking bailout gave the left control of the banking industry -- and we are still paying for it. PeterKa (talk) 08:07, April 26, 2023 (EDT)
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