Talk:Conservative of the Year 2022

Elon Musk

Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise which Steve Turley recently commented on. See: The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING.

In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful.

At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[1] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. MarkLM8 (talk) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)

A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)

I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--TheNewRight (talk) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)

He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree.

In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[2]

RT.com: "Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust & Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet."[3] MarkLM8 (talk) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)

How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)

I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead.

Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him.[4] MarkLM8 (talk) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Now wait a minute, if say RT looks good, I'm a Putin stooge. If I say it looks bad, I'm a Russophobe. Maybe I don't want to play that game. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Well, he's made Pollyanna...er, AOC look like the fool she is on Twitter on several occasions, so that's a start. Northwest (talk) 23:18, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided. Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[5] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[6][7] MarkLM8 (talk) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Oh, so if she didn't crap in his bed, that means there's no animosity and possibly a lingering relationship? I'm really getting confused now by this reasoning. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:43, November 19, 2022 (EST)

Elon Musk quote: "I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative."[8] Musk is a libertarian. MarkLM8 (talk) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)

I like the collective conservative members of the Supreme Court (minus Roberts and possibly whoever), Doug MacGregor for his courage against prevailing headwinds, and Rand Paul for a variety of reasons (Fauci, Ukraine, etc.). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:50, December 15, 2022 (EST)

Nominations

I think that I can add many nominations such as

• Glenn Youngkin deserve nomination for for his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.
• JD Vance for leading successful America first Senate campaign
• Clarence Thomas for his rule to overturning Roe V. Wade
• Joe Lombardo for winning Nevada gubernatorial election
• Greg Abbott for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over Beto O'Rourke
• Marco Rubio for his big victory over Val Demings
• Mike Lawler for his victory over Sean Patrick Maloney
• Brian Kemp I dislike him, but ending Stacey Abrams political career have blessed our heart
• Herschel Walker in case he defeating Raphael Warnock in the run-off
• Giorgia Meloni for winning the Italian election
• Harreit Hageman for defeating Liz Cheney in Wyoming

They all look good. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)

I want also add Kris Kobach for his victory in Kansas attorney general election, despite liberal overspent to defeat him --Alex Kosh (talk) 23:40, November 19, 2022 (EST)

I think the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices that clearly ruled in favor of oveturning Roe vs. Wade should win in 2022. "The majority opinion, authored by Justice Samuel Alito, was joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Chief Justice John Roberts filed an opinion concurring in the judgement, in which he advocated for a more narrow ruling."[9] Maybe the 6th judge John Roberts should be left out of winning. Andy Schlafy would know better than I whether Roberts should be left out since he probably knows more about the ruling than I do. MarkLM8 (talk) 03:28, November 20, 2022 (EST)

The advantage of giving the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices instead of just giving Clarence Thomas the award is that Samuel Alito is deserving of the award just was much as Clarence Thomas. Overturning Roe vs. Wade was a long sought over and hard fought goal of conservatives so the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices should win. Alternatively, The Federalist Society or Donald Trump should win since they both were responsible for more conservative SCOTUS judges. In retrospect, maybe giving the award to the Federalist Society might be the way to go since they were most responsible for overturning Roe vs. Wade. MarkLM8 (talk) 09:47, November 20, 2022 (EST)

Alito was strong in the running last year, and for a couple years now, I think. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:26, November 20, 2022 (EST)

How's this: We give recognition to Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Amy Coney Barrett {Kavanagh we could debate). Brian Kemp I'd toss out (Stacy Abrams & Beto seem to have made careers out of losing). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:35, November 20, 2022 (EST)

I took down Kemp. Also, if we're going to have Youngkin up there, we might as well have Tulsi Gabbard. They're YGL alum. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:47, November 21, 2022 (EST)

DeSantis

I think that Ron DeSantis is a clear frontrunner. Under his leadership, he promoted Conservative policies despite massive opposition from liberals, the Mainstream Media, and RINOs. Despite constant criticism, he won reelection in a historic landslide, transforming Florida into a borderline safe Republican state. He also provided coattails for down ballot Republicans, giving Republicans control of all statewide offices for the first time in more than a century, as well as 4 additional Republican United States Representatives.--TheNewRight (talk) 18:12, November 20, 2022 (EST)

I favor either Zeldin or Youngkin for Conservative of the Year

Both of them follow a more reasonable path of conservatism as opposed to the excesses of populist demagoguery demonstrated by the rest of the contenders. Youngkin and Zeldin have made strong Republican inroads in blue states and symbolize the practical future of the GOP. —LT ^{(The Old Right was right!)} Thursday, 19:24, November 23, 2022 (EST)

What is definition of populist demagoguery? --Alex Kosh (talk) 13:27, November 30, 2022 (EST)

Sam Alito wins, no question.

Our article on Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization rightly says (with Mr. Schlafly's endorsement, might I add), Dobbs was the biggest victory for the pro-life and conservative legal movements in over 50 years. It ended the mass slaughter of innocent unborn life. Alito has saved millions of unborn lives. He delivered the largest conservative victory in over 50 years. While he did it with some assistance from Donald Trump, he did not appoint any SCOTUS justices this year. MayGodBless (talk) 20:13, November 26, 2022 (EST)

I agree Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas both deserve to win this year. After disappointment of Kansas, Kentucky, Montana and Michigan referendums on abortion. Conservatives need to push back and celebrate those who overturn evil Roe v Wade. --Alex Kosh (talk) 13:24, November 30, 2022 (EST)

I believe that Justice Alito alone should get the title. Yes, Justice Thomas wrote a stellar concurring opinion, but he was unable to persuade a single other justice to join it. Only Justice Alito was able to craft an opinion that got 5 votes to stop legalized murder. Conservative of the Year is not an award for the most Conservative person that year. If this were the case, how did President Donald Trump win the award? He is a Conservative, but he is not the most conservative person. For example, he supports part of the homosexual agenda. It is for the person who gets the most Conservative results that year. This year, that man is indisputably Justice Samuel Alito. MayGodBless (talk) 13:37, December 6, 2022 (EST)

The reason why I add Justice Thomas because he said that he would target Obergefell v. Hodges next. This is something that conservatives should all support. They need to push back after congress codify Same sex marriage --Alex Kosh (talk) 18:40, December 9, 2022 (EST)

But that is something in the future, not this year. When he, by the grace of God, succeeds, then we ca talk about awarding him the title of Conservative of the Year. But not in 2022. MayGodBless (talk) 11:28, December 15, 2022 (EST)

Three Frontrunners

Hello! I think that Ron DeSantis, Justice Alito, and Elon Musk are the three obvious frontrunners. Any thoughts?--TheNewRight (talk) 21:45, December 14, 2022 (EST)

I like the collective conservative members of the Supreme Court (minus Roberts and possibly whoever), Doug MacGregor for his courage against prevailing headwinds, and Rand Paul for a variety of reasons (Fauci, Ukraine, etc.). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:52, December 15, 2022 (EST)

Elon Musk is a libertarian and not a conservative. There is a lot of pro-Trump and anti-Desantis sentiments at the wiki so DeSantis is out. Both Conservative SCOTUS judges minus Roberts or Rand Paul make sense.

Doug MacGregor appeared on Russia Today and he takes Russia's position in the Russia-Ukraine War. I will explain why I am against MacGregor being the conservative of the year. George Washington said "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world." I take the position that the USA should not take any position in the Russia-Ukraine War as both sides are corrupt/authoritarian and Putin is hated by some of our allies (For example, the UK has met their NATO obligations so I would consider the UK to be an ally and not merely a protectorate. Also, Poland will raise defence spending to the equivalent of 5% of GDP, ruling party chairman Jarosław Kaczyński has announced so they are an ally and not a protectorate.) I argue that the Europeans who have a population of 446.8 million should handle the Ukraine issue since it is in their backyard. In addition, Europe has been slackers for decades in terms of their defense. After the dust settles, given the threat of China that will exist for awhile (unfair trade practices, intellectual property theft, their increasing agression in the China Sea, exporting of authoritarian systems/technology to other countries and their threats against Taiwan), it makes sense for the USA to have friendlier relations with Russia after the Russia-Ukraine War settles. China poses a temporary threat as it has the worst aging population problem in the world and a ton of debt so their economy is headed for trouble. Conservative (talk) 13:20, December 15, 2022 (EST)

Why would DeSantis be out? Just because some people prefer him over Trump? He has had an extraordinary year as Governor of Florida, pushing Conservative legislation, such as parental rights in schools, despite strong backlash from the Left and from the media. As for Musk, as stated above, this is not about who is the most Conservative, which he is clearly not, but about who has been the most successful or effective at pushing Conservatism and / or resisting Leftism. I agree that Justice Alito should probably be the Conservative of the Year, with DeSantis as the 1st Runner-Up and Musk as the 2nd Runner-Up. Also, I will be creating the RINO of the Year, 2022 page soon. Thanks!--TheNewRight (talk) 15:00, December 15, 2022 (EST)

Read: Desantisites. But if push comes to shove and DeSantis runs against Biden, I would vote for DeSantis. Conservative (talk) 15:03, December 15, 2022 (EST)

I agree that some of DeSantis's supporters are establishment / RINO Republicans. However, DeSantis has had many Conservative accomplishments this year. Examples: Florida Parental Rights in Education Act; House Bill 395, which mandates that schools teach about the oppression of Communism; SB 1054, which requires high school students to take a financial literacy course, making Florida the largest state to so; stood up to Fauci / vaccine supporters on many occasions; decided against ordering COVID vaccines for children younger than 5 years old, making Florida the only state not to preorder vaccines for young children; signed a pro-Republican house map, resulting in 4 additional Republicans in the House; won re-election in a historic landslide, winning the traditionally Democratic strongholds of Miami-Beach County, Osceola County, and Palm Beach County.--TheNewRight (talk) 16:05, December 15, 2022 (EST)