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Propaganda war

  • The US and its allies expect Kiev to refill the depleted ranks with teenagers, the elderly, and women, Russia's SVR intelligence agency has said.
  • "Several hundred thousand Ukrainian men and ten thousands of Russian ones are now dead. All because U.S. and UK politicians, primarily Biden and Johnson, desired to "weaken Russia". Russia is now stronger than it has been in early 2022. Its economy is growing while Europe's is stagnating at best. To make peace now with will cost Ukraine some 20+% of the country. In April 2022 it could have regained control over all of it except for Crimea."
  • You voted for it, either when you voted for Joe Biden or failed to stand against election fraud in "democratic" America.
  • "Vladimir Putin's working visit to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates ended a few hours ago. We will talk about the importance of this meeting and the results achieved during the talks between Putin and the leaders of the Arab world in one of the following videos. But now, in today's video, I would like to draw your attention to another, no less important aspect of this working trip of the Russian president. The Western Media is still in a state of shock. Western journalists cannot understand how the Russian president, being under the most powerful sanctions, dared to visit countries that are considered allies of the United States in the Middle East. Western journalists are wondering why the warrant issued for Putin's arrest by the International Criminal Court in The Hague does not work concerning the Russian president. Numerous Western magazines and newspapers have already recognized this visit of the Russian president as a real diplomatic victory that humiliated the United States in the international arena. Moreover, Western analysts still cannot understand how Russia organized an armed air escort of Putin's plane consisting of four super modern Su-35S fighter jets. The fact is that no fighter jet in the world is capable of covering such huge distances being armed to the teeth. Secondly, western analysts cannot understand why Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates allowed Russian fighter jets armed with the most modern means of destruction to enter their airspace and land at their airfields. According to the protocol, the Su-35S fighter jets accompanying Putin's plane were supposed to stop escorting the Presidential aircraft and not enter the airspace of these countries. The fighter jets of the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia were supposed to begin escorting Putin's plane in their own airspace. However, it seems that an exception was made to the general rule for the Russian president, which once again proved to the whole world the great weight and influence of Moscow. The only thing that the Arab pilots did with the help of their American F-16 fighter jets was the coloring of the sky in the Russian flag in honor of Vladimir Putin's arrival. By the way, the Ukrainian media took such a warm welcome of the Russian leader very painfully, saying that the Arabs had no right to use American fighter jets to paint the sky in the Russian flag since against the background of well-known events, this step looked like a mockery of Washington...."
  • UAE welcomes Putin.

MSM narratives

  • "Intensifying security challenges from the western Pacific to Ukraine to the Middle East have fueled debate over whether the U.S. can afford a bigger military...In fact, the more pressing question is whether it can build one—when its principal adversary possesses vast industrial capacity...It isn’t just defense; the entire U.S. manufacturing base shrank as labor-intensive production migrated to East Asia...There are fewer suppliers, factories, shipyards and, most important, workers available to meet the rising demand”.

Elon Musk lampoons Wikipedia

Elon Musk offers $1B to Wikipedia if it changes its name. [2] In addition Mark Dice video dropped this week. "Behind the scenes of Wikipedia – one of the biggest disinformation machines on the Internet." [3] --Jpatt 09:26, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

Yes, the Dice piece, which is about 5 minutes long, is well worth viewing and should be viewed by our editors. It may have been posted on MPR, if I recall. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:14, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

Steve Turley was demonetized by YouTube

In a recent video, the conservative Steve Turley said he was demonetized by YouTube. He has 1.18 million+ YouTube subscribers. Conservative (talk) 15:05, November 30, 2023 (EST)

Yah. YouTube execs probably have been reading your Essay screeds and decided to de-monetize Turley. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 15:13, November 30, 2023 (EST)
Too hot to handle.. Telling (talk)

Israel

  • Dreizin: U.S.-dictated strategy of slow creep into Gaza open spaces, farmsteads & suburbs is paying off as Hamas, drawn out from its fortresses, takes heavy losses while Israeli casualties are inconsequential, even as Israeli personnel gain combat experience, to include ground targeting for airstrikes, a crucial skill that is NOT in the usual Israeli repertoire. Strategy is presumably also designed to achieve “slow boil”, avoiding uncontrollable rage explosion in Arab countries. Shizbollah/Iran still deterred; Israel-Lebanon/Syria casualties so far are up to 15X in Israel’s favor, due to Israel’s superior attack drones (ask the Armenians); multiple highly credible Arab & Israeli sources state that Hamas is very disappointed in its allies for not joining in big-ly. New U.S. House speaker = Israel will get the $$$ soon. Things going surprisingly well for what my most autistic readers like to call “the colonial entity” (LOL.) But, we’ll see. The Ukraine, of course, is still toast.
  • Dreizin: (“GAZA SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR JEWS”, **NOT** A JOKE, FURTHER BELOW.) As I wrote on October 8th, bulk of Israeli ground force is not combat-capable, is lucky to be facing only Hamas for now, not Hezbollah. If you hadn’t already seen the Hamas drone video still from two days ago, of 15+ Israeli soldiers chilling in a shallow sandpit, today we have Hamas video of a fragmentation grenade air-dropped on group of 25+ soldiers all chilling idle, out in the open, bunched up within a ~4.5 meter radius; it appears that at least 3 were killed or crippled, probably more wounded less severely. VERY lucky that the grenade only hit the edge of the group. Also, last night overnight (Tues-Weds), we got news of an ASTOUNDING 13 Israeli casualties (9 dead, 4 wounded) in **ONE** armored vehicle (from the first-echelon Givati brigade) hit by an antitank missile or possibly a tandem-blast RPG. Per the Ukraine war, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 MONTHS: In an environment saturated with precision standoff tools to destroy your vehicles, the absolute MAXIMUM acceptable bodies in or on one vehicle (including driver) is 8, but ideally and more commonly 4-6. 13 is a total AMATEUR CLUSTER****. It doesn’t matter what they’re doing, how bad the need to get on that vehicle, because it’s a deathtrap, it’s better they stayed put. In short… Disperse or die en masse. COMPLACENCY KILLS, just as it killed 1000+ southern Israel civilians who lived on the edge of a tiger pit, but didn’t believe in gun ownership because, hey, “We have an army.” I still CANNOT FATHOM THE SASS, PRIDE, CLUELESS ARROGANCE of a military that willfully refuses to learn ANYTHING from the one truly major, modern war of the last 40 years. (I CAN ONLY ASSUME THEY THINK RUSS/UKR ARE DUMB N*****S, WHILE THEY ARE THE MASTER RACE.) As I wrote on **OCTOBER 8TH**, this may work for Gaza but it will NOT work against Hezbollah. ISRAELIS TOOK ALMOST 3 WEEKS TO PREPARE FOR THEIR “BIG GROUND OP”… WHAT THE **** WAS THEIR INFANTRY DOING WITH THAT TIME??? [4]
  • Dreizin: Based on numerous Gayrab-Islamiac videos out of Gaza, Israeli army displays seemingly total absence of infantry screening of armored vehicles, whether parked or on the move. Also, most Israeli vehicles still LACK any welded-on RPG screens/grills, or even any on-chassis sandbags to protect their turrets or gun pods. Frankly, I’d go so far as to say that I don’t believe Israel has a “REAL” ground army at this time; it is a glorified military-police force with some special forces attached, similar to the Russian army that went into the Ukraine, 21 months ago. One saving grace, so far, is likely Gayrab-Islamiac disorganization (due to intense air campaign causing death/injury of many commanders & destruction of many communications / command points, also causing the Gayrabs some difficulty in navigating their half-wrecked tunnel network) & consequent evident inability to mount Durka-Durka assaults at anything above the squad or small platoon level. Israel appears to have learned nothing from decades of conflicts in the Ukraine, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. I just don’t have any more words to describe the pathos of what I’m seeing. They don’t seem to have much choice other than just to keep demolishing the place, using hyper-intense air surveillance and “intervention” so as to keep their casualties low. But the MSM “grace period” can’t last, WE ARE GOING TO START HEARING FROM MSM ABOUT Israeli difficulties this coming week, for sure.
  • Dreizin: Israeli ground plan for Gaza City now seems clear—they are likely going directly for the main Hamas base and bunker complex (likely also an "all roads lead to Rome" point for the tunnel network in Gaza City & environs) in/under Shifa hospital. (What sort of turd hides under a hospital? No way that Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, told them to hide there. How "religious" are these killer clowns?) At current rate of advance (FWIW, strictly linear, *NOT* a prediction), moving along the coast (and inland from the coast), Israeli forces could reach the hospital by Monday mid-day.
  • UPDATE: Israel way ahead of Dreizin, has apparently fully taken coastal road to southern edge of Gaza City. Main Hamas base under Shifa hospital complex is just a few hundred meters from Israeli coastal presence. // I was ignoring this type of stuff, but now it’s too credible not to report. For one example, according to top Spanish paper El Mundo, Spanish mercs w/ Ukraine experience have been offered work in Israel/Gaza. Just another facet of the Ukraine-is-over story.
  • Korybko: What Did The Houthis’ Attempted Bombing Of Israel Aim To Achieve?
  • DPA: This is why Israel can't stop rocket attacks from Gaza.
  • https://nitter.net/IbnRiad/status/1722717755198083185 Ibn Riad
  • DPA: Deep tunnel discovered in West Bank (Jenin) after major Israeli raid - UAV was involved
  • Weeb Union: MASSIVE Israeli Breakthrough | Shifa Hospital Under Siege
  • Hezbollah released a video warning the U.S. of its readiness to destroy the U.S. fleet in the eastern Mediterranean
  • Dreizin: Israeli advance force is now in heart of Gaza City business district, 1.25 miles inland, about 0.5 miles further than reported by Israeli media today. Hamas in the City appears to be ineffectual, collapsing, as Israeli battle plan (using “rolling screen of fire” tactic described — not under that name — in my 1st post (of 2) on Nov 10th, to move in from the coast while tying down Hamas in its fortresses closer to the Israeli border, in Beit Hanoun & Jabaliya) becomes clear. Evidently, Hamas did not anticipate that Israel would dare to brave the higher-rise inner districts of the northern Strip.
  • Dreizin: Israeli advance force is over 2 miles inland from the Gaza coast, down a corridor centered on central (N/S) Omar Mukhtar Street, about a mile further than reported by Israeli media at this moment. Clearly aiming for the junction w/ (E/W) main thoroughfare Saladin Street, which would essentially bisect Gaza City and allow Israel to reach out in any direction. Israel obviously following a strategy of isolate-and-reduce. Likely next phase after Gaza City is (N/S) bisection east of Khan Younis (or, of east Khan Younis itself) in the southern Strip. /// Regarding the INSURRECTION at the DNC yesterday evening: Where were the shytprog “Ceasefire Now!!!” people during the Ukraine war? I don’t remember them pepper-spraying police, over that. They sat it out (still sitting it out) because they obviously don’t care about “white-on-white” violence. (Per the U.S. Census Bureau, all Semites and everyone else “over there” are white anyway, but don’t tell the shytprogs.) BTW, all these ‘tards with their “Genocide!!!” are blowing air at Russia’s windmill, God bless them. You MAY see a REAL “genocide” in the Ukro-Reich this winter, under cover of Gaza events. Stay tuned!!!
  • WAPO CLAIMS TO HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW HAMAS DID THEIR UNPRECEDENTED OCT 7 BREACH ATTACK.
  • Jerusalem Post: Russia's role in the Middle East: A key factor in Israel's foreign policy.
  • WILLIAM SCHRYVER: To Bluff or Not to Bluff.
  • Weeb Union: NONSTOP AMBUSHES All Over Gaza City | Frontline Update & Analysis
  • Joshua Frank, The Dangers Only Multiply; Could Israel’s War on Gaza Go Nuclear?
  • Gaza: busting a tunnel system.
  • Dreizin: Numerous Arab sources report fighting within Khan Younis, not the governorate but the city itself. Seemingly “ahead of schedule”, Israel appears to have established a large, continuous beachead from south Deir Balah to just east (perhaps northeast) of Khan Younis city, and is now moving into the very belly of the beast, with Islamiacs putting up “unusually” (but understandably) heavy resistance.
  • Dreizin: An Israeli force is in the general vicinity of Khan Younis city hall (northeastern section of the city.) Israelis likely advanced from direction of Houli junction, south Deir Balah.
  • Dreizin: Dosed approach, very smart: After the United Nations fiiiiiinally acknowledges “October 7th” sexual violence… & Brandon & Anglosphere MSM get on the rape stuff in a big way… prepare for “Believe all men” and “You never knew Islamiacs could be so gay.” ZAKA (Orthodox emergency mortuary affairs organization) volunteer supervisor & Home Front Command reservist Haim Otmazgin (a verifiably real & credible man) is now said to have recorded & shared with relevant authorities, photo/video of a family home in which the father had been handcuffed to a chair, entirely naked, & with unspecified (no “details” yet) signs of rape, then shot. Israeli media is now also talking about evidence of “necro-sadism.” I will try to publish an audio (recorded 2 days ago) on the “dosed approach”, this evening. Also, will have “new” video of a bunch of Israeli “October 7th” corpses in a beach bathroom. You’ve been warned. In the 1st video they are still alive—you don’t “have to” watch the 2nd video.
  • Dreizin: An Israeli force is in central Shejaiyah (Shuja’iyyah), one of the tough nuts of the northern Strip. Nut looks to be cracking. All still going ahead of schedule. I’m as surprised as anyone. /// Israel confirms its forces are in *central* Khan Younis city. /// Breakdown of UN food distribution channels, as many or most incoming trucks now get looted before Hamas can “equitably distribute” their contents. /// DEFINITIVE: Israel has already used **over** (could be quite a bit more) 90K 155mm rounds against Gaza-morrah & over 10K against Shizbollah. Already well above my “absolute minimum”, 45-day estimate of 80K (for those who remember.) Every day this goes on is another little triumph for Russia. Allah willing, this rate of fire will go on for another month at least. Today, the 200th GLOBOHOMO military cargo flight (since Oct 7th) arrived in Israel. Don’t believe the “Israel & the Reich have different needs” nonsense. USA has just delivered or is now delivering 70 MRAPS to Israel; these could otherwise have gone to the Reich. All the F-16s that the Ukraine is supposed to be flying any day now, were intended to (among other things) launch JDAM-assisted bombs, as the Reich’s other (now almost all destroyed) aircraft had done. It’s now in BIG DOUBT as to whether GLOBOHOMO can spare **ANY** JDAMs for the Reich. Allahu Akbar, God Is Great.
  • Dreizin: Dreizin EXCLUSIVE analysis: (“Believe all men” will be delayed by a day, as I must get this out now, before WSJ &/or Bezos Post beat me to it.) With Israel’s army exceeding expectations, & now Hamas seemingly in its last days as an organized military force, U.S. Hegemonic Bloc looks to prevent Israel from turning around its increasingly battle-hardened, confident army to do a “1945 Soviet Manchurian Campaign” on Shizbollah / Lebanon. To that end, they are leveraging Israel’s success to build pressure for at least partial implementation of UNSC Res. 1701 (2006), with Shiz withdrawing to north of Litani river, roughly 24km from Israeli border (with exception of Israel’s northeast “spur”, where it runs much closer.) ****In last week, a Lebanese paper wrote that a top French spy or diplomat (French still get warm welcome in Leb) visited Beirut to convey that 1701 will shortly be back on the agenda.**** And today (Wednesday, Dec 6th), Israel’s leading paper claimed U.S. has communicated to Israel that it wants to get UN to finally demarcate Isr-Leb border….. which (my view) would FORCE the UN to take a position on “Shebaa Farms issue”, & would then, presumably, be used as cudgel against Lebanon, which is already on its last legs economically (thus pressuring Shiz indirectly.) Granted, demarcation could take long time, but INTENT is clear. ALSO today, Israel’s defense minister met with heads of evacuated border communities, & told them Israel will force Hezbollah to withdraw to (or beyond) Litani, before govt would expect their 80,000 displaced constituents (living in hotels at govt expense) to return. Folks, success breeds success. ***NO ONE was talking about this, a month ago.*** You’ll see it in MSM, soon. /// MORE CONTENT BELOW…..
  • Dreizin has certainly an interesting style. The problem is also that the real big shots are probably on a sofa in al jazeera's bosses' country (who play "mediator" and host the terrorists at the same time) or Turkey.Dianne3000 (talk)
  • Dreizin: To my overeager pro-Israel readers: The “HAMAS MASS SURRENDER!!!” photos/video, show what’s called a “filtration.” Those guys were simply rounded up. Perhaps a minority (again, a MINORITY) of them work for Hamas as spies/spotters, NOT actual Hamas fighters. So… I’ll put it bluntly, you’re not competent. Like a newborn child, or some dope with a Ukraine-flag Twitter profile, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING AT, any more than do the idiots on “the other side.” Why don’t you just leave it to Dreizin, who spends HOURS to confirm any claim he considers publishing? Otherwise, why are you even here? If it was real, you think I wouldn’t tell you? I’M TRYING TO SAVE YOU PRECIOUS TIME, LEAVE THE DAMN INTERNET ALONE!!!
Dreizin: Northern Gaza Strip: Israeli forces are now in east-central Jabalia, as Islamiacs’ Jabalia defense crumbles. Israelis appear to be moving freely within most of Shejaiya (Shu’jayya.) Beit Lahia is now a rear area. And we finally have beyond-doubt confirmation of Israeli control of Palestine Square roundabout, meaning all or almost all of Gaza City now under Israeli control. Once north Gaza entirely a rear area, multiple Israeli first-echelon brigades will be available for redeployment to south. ///

Why Lindsey Graham melted down into a bowl of fudge

Lindsey Graham Screams at Newsmax Reporter for Bringing Up Tlaib in Israel Briefing Wow, despite Cohen at first gratefully praising Graham, he gets viciously lashed out at. Now, one may wonder: why would Graham find the question so affronting?

The answer is simple: Graham is part of the uniparty globalist establishment, and the question was a challenge undermining establishment Democrats. Graham, as a loyal Deep State shill, thus instinctively can't help but defend his fellow Democratic establishmentarians in an outburst of fury, which if you notice closely was antisemitic:

Graham: "Get this guy out of here."

Cohen: "I live here. I'm an Israeli."

Graham: "I'm an American!"

Graham's response demonstrates how the American globalist establishment views other countries: subservient colonies that bending to the will of the enlightened initiated masters. He visits a foreign country for a press conference, and thinks that him being an American holds equal standing to a citizen of that country, enough to justify demanding that citizen get kicked out the crucial diplomatic conference. What astounding arrogance from this senatorial scum. If anyone deserves the vengeance of hell, the pink-pansie excuse of South Carolina's senior senator can walk the plank into the lake of fire. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:52, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

The very fact that Graham is offended over an Israeli bringing up problems stemming in America as if they're irrelevant only is revealing of his own self-enlightened superiority complex—how dare anyone question the second beast of Revelation! —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:59, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting. Now just get your own head screwed on right about criticism of globalists and globalism if you want to gain any traction. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:41, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
I examine geopolitics by applying the Hegelian thesis/antithesis model. Consider the cause-and-effect cycle, examine the motives for each side, how they function as puppets, and how current events will lead to the inevitable "synthesis." —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 13:42, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Most geopolitical questions transcend left/right, liberal/conservative paradigms. And beginning with an ideological approach from those paradigms will distort your vision. Therefore, the ideological approach should be quelled from the outset. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:33, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
It's true that the larger picture of geopolitics indeed transcend a one-dimensional approach to political ideology—definitive standards can vary drastically between different nations, so the extreme right wing of a Western country may find common ground with the fringe left wing of a Middle Eastern Islamic-majority, anti-imperialist, anti-Western nation. But so long as the varying differences in political ideology can be grasped, there is not necessarily a need to entirely ditch the "left–right paradigm" that more or less is rooted in the Bible. (Ecc. 10:2, Matt. 25:33–46)
I hope this clarifies matters. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 21:39, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
"right/left" is very near to what I call "journalistic shorthand" - nobody knows or can agree what it means and the author only uses it cause there isn't space to explain more detail. The author assumes you know what he's talking about. But it's real meaning changes from place to place, and over time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:28, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Amalekite Hamas shills are the new Nazi Bundists

A group of antisemitic agitators gather in New York in support of a foreign regime mass-murdering Jews, and viciously denounces the present Democratic presidential Administration of the United States. Sounds like the recent pro-Hamas protest, right? Well, it also eerily resembles the 1939 Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden. How times have changed... or perhaps not. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 13:39, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Who you talking about, Gays 4 Gaza]? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:41, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
I'm referring to the infamous DSA rally. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 13:43, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Debate: Should the United States continue to support Israel?

Just created a new debate page on this topic. Link here.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:48, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Blood libel again?

"An Israeli air strike blasted ..NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:19, November 2, 2023 (EDT)

How nice and "lovely" are you saying now that Israel is after Christians by intention? How low. But you wouldn't blame Islamists for using Hospital, schools, ambulances and places of worship. Of course.Dianne3000 (talk)
In this specific instance I highly doubt they were going after Christians by intention. But it is true that Christophobia has been rising among the Israeli right, just as antisemitism has been rising among the American right (and to an even greater extent the American left).--Geopolitician (talk) 12:44, November 10, 2023 (EST)
Sadly, I have to agree with you. Unfortunately, we have many users who don't understand the complexities and realities of the world. Worse, they don't seem interested or want to understand. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:39, November 8, 2023 (EST)
If the OP (N.X.) just wants to "defend" Christians... he would have posted this and other weekly Islamist crimes against Christians. "Christian Buildings Targeted in Military Conflict in Sudan,” Morning Star News, November 6, 2023. But we all have seen his campaign - what it is really about.Dianne3000 (talk)

Islamization of Christians continues

Jesus' birthplace removes all Christmas decorations in honor of Hamas 'martyrs’ [5] Since the 1920s, Arab Christian leadership let their people be influenced by Islamists dominance. In May 1937, Arab-Christians joined the Muslims in celebrating, Muhammad's birthday by displaying pictures of Hitler & Mussolini. NYT. Since 1997 there has been a brutal Islamization of Bethlehem. Arabs under oppressive leadership can not express freely what they believe against the Islamic power. [6] Arafat drove Christians from Bethlehem[7]Telling (talk) 19:35, November 16, 2023 (EST)

Yep. We used to get news reports about Christmas in Bethlehem, but since about 2002, you'd be taken hostage if you ventured anywhere near it. In fact, I don't think the Israeli government issues tourist visas to Bethlehem anymore, not without some special explanation why the visa is being requested. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 19:49, November 16, 2023 (EST)
The group was also been played as a ping-pong propaganda against Israel.Dianne3000 (talk) 20:08, November 16, 2023 (EST)
It's not just true in Israel, but Lebanon, as well. It's amazing how many Arab Christians from Lebanon sympathize with the Arab Muslims. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 20:04, November 16, 2023 (EST)
I'm not surprised at all. Ever since the Syrian war began, many Arab Christians have relied on Shia militias such as Hezbollah for protection against al-Qaeda, ISIS, and other Salafi/Wahhabi groups when their central governments couldn't provide said protections themselves. Under the current circumstances, these Arab Christians see their Shia counterparts as necessary allies in their struggle to survive.--Geopolitician (talk) 00:46, November 17, 2023 (EST)
It used to be called the Switzerland of the M.E.

Did Daniel Halper just imply that Monica Lewinsky was Mossad???

More on this here.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:57, November 18, 2023 (EST)

I've heard this theory before, but's always run the gap of fact or fiction? Is it a genuine analysis or a Hollywood script? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 22:41, November 18, 2023 (EST)


GOP news

  • Dreizin: Useless GOP to be punked again, as usual. Congressional “We found our hill to die on, FUND ISRAEL SEPARATELY!” Republicans about to be UNDERCUT, as 5 seconds after Blinken’s meeting with Netanyahu yesterday, Israeli media announced that Jesus Zelensky will visit, after all, and will shake hands for the cameras with Netanyahu, & it will look great to have all the Forces of Light together, making clear that they’re all on same side, & it’s the same issue (all in line with Team Brandon talking points)… like, when the Elves stood with Gondor. Well, who is Israel, to say no to GLOBOHOMO now? They held out for as long as they could. Jesus already waited 2000 years to return to Holy Land, but his visit now so urgent, reportedly, it might happen Tuesday or even tomorrow. Republicans, prepare for THE PHOTO-OP. Do you stand with Forces of Light… or with Dictators & Terrorists, as you did on “J6”??? (Also, per Ted Cruz, 9/11 & Pearl Harbor & stuff.) // ALSO… Below, see Dreizin’s phone chat “live blog” of Nasrallah’s Big Speech yesterday. It seems like the largest U.S. & allied naval & air deployment (even ships from 2 Asian Muslim countries) since 1991, has had its deterrent effect. [8]

More cover-up? C. Wray admission

Townhall.com @townhallcom SENATOR KENNEDY: "Why didn't the FBI just say, hey, the laptop's real?!"

FBI DIRECTOR WRAY: "We have to be very careful about what we can say, especially in the middle of an election season..."linkDianne3000 (talk) 14:18, December 5, 2023 (EST)

At this point, it's fairly obvious Jake Sullivan and Antony Blinken are guilty of election interference in orchestrating the letter from 51 so-called "national security experts". And apparently were rewarded with the jobs they now hold. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 14:39, December 5, 2023 (EST)
Let's see if Johnson / GOP cam pull off a significant step in the impeachment, before the 2024 election...Telling (talk)

Speaker Mike Johnson

Old quotes by Shreveport Republican Mike Johnson are surfacing now that he's Speaker of the House: “Your race, creed, and sex are what you are, while homosexuality and cross-dressing are things you do. This is a free country, but we don’t give special protections for every person’s bizarre choices.”[9] I'm wondering how many people over 50 could pass CNN's rule, which seems be, "No old quotes criticizing gays or gay marriage." Perhaps the network has forgotten that Obama was against gay marriage when he ran for president in 2008.

In middle school, we used to chant, "Smear the queer!" I had no idea what it meant. I just chanted along. This was in Texarkana. We could watch the political ads from Shreveport. Shreveport politics is, um, entertaining.

Johnson's views on energy and climate are right up my alley. See "Johnson brings pro-oil, climate-skeptical record to speakership." Hey, Biden is pro-oil too. He just wants the oil produced in Venezuela and Iran. PeterKa (talk) 20:33, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] Left-wing ideology has always been changing, and "right-wing" is defined as whatever is to the right of the present strain of Leftism. Jeffersonian Republicans were classical liberals who supported laissez-faires free-market capitalism and free trade, yet comprised the left wing of politics because they opposed the classically conservative and "aristocratic" Federalists. Subsequent hardline Jacksonianism and its left wing, especially the Young America movement under George Nicholas Sanders, supported free trade, the gold standard, the expansion of capitalism, and popular sovereignty. Of course, support for the gold standard changing from a left-wing position in antebellum years to right-wing in the postbellum era was due to changing circumstances: the central government was no longer dispensing gold alone, but greenbacks, and business interests once open to paper now supported a quick return to specie payments.
And so, the left-wing Democrats in the postbellum era were divided: some maintained the same positions regardless of changing political context (the purportedly "right-wing" August Belmont who supported specie in 1868 was previously a key figure in the radically liberal Young America movement), while others applied a consistent spirit of Jacksonianism now in support of greenbacks, particularly the Copperhead George H. Pendleton of Ohio. In Rutherford B. Hayes's winning gubernatorial campaign, the hardcore Jacksonian candidate William Allen used populist Jacksonian rhetoric in support of greenbacks against the "Money Power" and was labeled by Republican media outlets as a radical, Communist-aligned revolutionary. (see Eric Foner's book America's Unfinished Revolution)
Machine politics also demonstrates another change in political ideology definitions: countless Northeastern "reactionaries" were once aligned with or sympathetic to liberal reform in Reconstruction and the early Gilded Age. The Liberal Republican Party, to the left of the regular Grantist GOP element, were adamant supporters of laissez-faires and anti-Communist. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr., the poster child of archreactionary Republican politics in the Progressive Era, held sympathies with liberal reformers in the 1880s!
And the shift from the Progressive Era to the New Deal exemplifies the "old leftists become new rightists" perception further. Key Progressives such as Hiram Johnson, Burton K. Wheeler, and arguably even Clare Hoffman were once solid on the left, and yet at some point in the 1930s "moved rightward." Of course, what really happened was that the context changed: FDR attempted to circumvent constitutional separation of powers with his infamous court packing scheme, which was too much for Progressives to swallow: they were willing to support most New Deal initiatives, but the idea of packing the court to achieve liberal accomplishments was unacceptable.
The real shift in left–right ideology materialized in the World War II years. Price controls, stemming from a centralized bloated bureaucracy, was opposed by an alliance of conservatives and old-school Progressives, and because the issues were no longer primarily over tariff rates, public vs. private rural electrification, and tax rates on the rich, the Progressives increasingly aligned with conservatives in opposition to the "new liberalism" of FDR and Truman. The States' Rights Democratic Party (Dixiecrats) was anti–Fair Deal, but many were once solidly pro–New Deal. In fact, a college student at one point brutally mocked Dixiecrat supporters for claiming to support states' rights despite never opposing New Deal liberalism. This basically should put to bed the J. Lister Hill/Kevin Kruse narrative that Dixiecrats were part of an economically conservative conspiracy.
And this is just a condensed summary. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 20:36, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Your condensing needs condensing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:44, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
Saw him on the Sunday Foxnews show, a proud principled religious man. Dianne3000 (talk)
I hope I am wrong, but I am suspicious of new speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Mike Johnson. See: Impeach Biden, or let him crumble? GOP Rep. weighs 'political calculus' amid corruption probe and Momentum behind impeachment inquiry slows under new speaker. "Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), a constitutional lawyer by training, has taken a more reserved tone, both publicly and privately, urging members to conduct a thorough and fair investigation with no predetermined outcome. In a closed-door meeting with House GOP moderates this week, he indicated that there is insufficient evidence at the moment to initiate formal impeachment proceedings, according to people who attended the meeting."
Maybe Johnson is right about law and evidence regarding Biden's suspicious activity as he is a constitutional lawyer as is legal scholar Jonathon Turley, but it doesn't seem so (In addition, Turley's public testimony was about a month ago and more evidence has come to light). But now Jonathon Turley says this: Biden family has to choose between ‘cooperation’ or ‘contempt’: Jonathan Turley.
A big test will be whether or not the federal budget shrinks and/or by how much the federal budget shrinks under Johnson during his speakership. But it is true that Gingrich and Congress had the Tea Party movement putting pressure on them when the federal budget deficit was eliminated, but Johnson does not. Conservative (talk) 02:11, November 12, 2023 (EST)
"Shrunk": When was the last time the budget "shrunk"? Secondly, what would be the effect of "shrinking" the budget? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 09:38, November 12, 2023 (EST)
Still waiting to hear User:Conservative expound on monetary theory and monetary policy as a result of "shrinking" the federal budget, given the fact User: Conservative is a demographic expert and the population of the United States has grown 10 million in the past 3 with Biden's open borders. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:27, November 12, 2023 (EST)
Question: Don't these 10 million new inhabitants need some equivalent of per capita income in cash to prevent them from stealing for subsistence, which means inflating the money supply? How is that done? Alternatively, we could raise state and local taxes on citizens to pay for an increased criminal justice system of police, courts, and prisons if the feds don't pump up the money supply to accommodate the 10 million new inhabitants. So just exactly how are you going to handle this by "shrinking" the budget? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:34, November 12, 2023 (EST)
Bottomline: The only way to "shrink" the budget is to "shrink" the population, i.e. have less people alive at the end of 12 months than the year began with. Once again, User:Conservative makes himself a spokesperson for neo-fascism and genocide while calling himself a conservative and Republican. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 21:38, November 12, 2023 (EST)

A rant with a picture of Moses preaching against the eating of bats [10]

There was a period of time between 1835 to 1837 where the USA was debt free in terms of national debt, but it did take fiscal discipline.

In addition, the USA dramatically reduced its huge WWII debt and this is a fact of history ("The fall in the U.S. public debt/GDP ratio from 106% in 1946 to 23% in 1974 is often attributed to high rates of economic growth"[11]).

The three ways that national governments can reduce federal debt are: cutting government spending, raising taxes and helping to increase economic growth so the federal government's revenue from taxes increases. I believe that the USA should focus on cutting government spending and increasing economic growth (More oil drilling, USA cutting regulations again like Trump did, etc.).

Regardless, was excessive USA national debt successfully dealt with in the fairly recent past? I ask this question to demonstrate that if it can be done in the past, it can be done in the present.

Let's look at the last 60 years in terms of reducing national debt: "Doing so requires the federal government to generate enough income to pay for all its spending. The U.S. has managed this feat only twice in the past 60 years – and both times involved raising taxes, something Republicans are loath to do. President Lyndon B. Johnson managed to do it in 1969, and President Bill Clinton created a surplus that ran from the fiscal years 1998 to 2001, when he left office... Clinton’s balanced-budget recipe was a mixture of higher revenues and lower spending, with help from a booming economy. In his second term, he also negotiated a bipartisan budget deal with Republicans."[12] Newt Gingrich/Bill Clinton did reduce government spending, instituted workfare instead of welfare, etc.

History shows that raising taxes can help solve economic problems (As can economic growth caused by cutting government spending due to big government spending and other prudent measures such as having a pro-business/capitalism economic environment), but how about reducing government spending and/or increasing economic growth? Does it work? Can it work better than raising taxes to eliminate government debt?

As far as cutting government spending, your hysterical diatribe shows a lack of imagination and an ignorance of history and economics. If developing countries can successfully implement austerity budgets to pay down their debt, certainly a developed country like the USA can do so (Examples of developed countries having successful austerity measures: Austerity Measures in Crisis Countries – Results and Impact on Mid-term Development). For example, due to the Eurozone Crisis, austerity measures were successfully implemented in various European countries to help some countries remove some government debt. Measures taken by Euro leaders became very unpopular, but the crisis was dealt with in the end. Japan is now a pretty good place to invest because they payed off their debt and ended their balance sheet recession (Roaring Back From Pandemic, Japan’s Economy Grows at 6% Rate, August 2023). One of the greatest leaders of the 20th century was Margaret Thatcher who had the nickname of the "Iron lady". People frequently say that Margaret Thatcher's austerity and privatization policies (Privatization increased economic growth) were a "tough pill to swallow" but in the end her policies were very successful and turned the British economy around. As a result, Thatcher was the longest-serving Prime Minister in 20th-century British history.

The Mosaic law: "Six days you shall work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even in plowing time and in harvest time you shall rest."- Exodus: 34:21

Moses never told the Israelites to retire at age sixty-five.

Also, for thousands of years, mankind largely worked until they were unable to work. The Bible says to work 6 days and not 5 and in tougher economic times some people are going to have to work longer. In Proverbs 13:22, King Solomon wrote: “A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children.” How are many more Americans going to do that if they retire at 65? The absurd and counterfactual notion that Americans need to retire at 65 is an absurd notion and many Americans now realize this and as a result are now retiring later. The age at which U.S. citizens can receive social security benefits should be raised for all able-bodied persons who are able to do so (Not caring for a sickly spouse who can't work). Also, the US Department of Education is a post Jimmy Carter institution and could easily be abolished so local governments have a bigger role. Big government in the USA can do some belt-tightening and to deny this fact is the height of economic ignorance, historical ignorance and foolish thinking.

I realize that things like austerity budgets and doctors telling fat people that they have to some dietary belt-tightening are things that can be unpopular, but reality necessitates corrective action.

With that being said, am I against the USA removing a lot of illegal aliens - especially ones who are not economically productive in the short and/or long term? It certainly can be done and I am certainly not against removing illegal immigrants who are economically unproductive, criminals, etc. Between 1953-1954 as many as 1.3 million people were deported during the Eisenhower Administration. What the next president does remains to be seen. Regardless, big government spending in the USA can and should be reduced.

Because it is unlikely that every single illegal immigrant is going to be eventually deported, what percentage of the illegal immigrants that crossed USA border recently and remain in the country are going to be economically unproductive? I don't know. Certainly not all of them as evidenced by the Trump Tower construction using illegal Polish immigrants. As in many things involving economics, there are winners, losers and tradeoffs when it comes to legal/illegal immigration. For example, a Harvard economist argued in 2016: "Here’s the problem with the current immigration debate: Neither side is revealing the whole picture. Trump might cite my work, but he overlooks my findings that the influx of immigrants can potentially be a net good for the nation, increasing the total wealth of the population. Clinton ignores the hard truth that not everyone benefits when immigrants arrive. For many Americans, the influx of immigrants hurts their prospects significantly."[13] I take the position of Trump on immigration which is that the USA immigration system needs to be reformed so the USA gets the very best immigrants, some illegal immigrants should be deported via tougher illegal immigrant laws enforcement and there should be a border wall across Mexico.

But at the end of the day, I am far more bullish on the future of USA than I am about the future of China and Russia which I cover at: [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]. Conservative (talk) 07:36, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Wrong answer. You clearly don't understand the influence of the gold standard on the national debt nor anything about monetary policy. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 09:54, November 13, 2023 (EST)
User:Conservative: "History shows that raising taxes can help solve economic problems" - 07:36, November 13, 2023 (EST).
RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:11, November 13, 2023 (EST)
“ And he said unto them, What advice give ye that we may return answer to this people, which have spoken to me, saying, Ease somewhat the yoke that thy father did put upon us? [i.e., cut taxes] And the young men that were brought up with him spake unto him, saying, Thus shalt thou answer the people that spake unto thee, saying, Thy father made our yoke heavy, but make thou it somewhat lighter for us; thus shalt thou say unto them, My little finger shall be thicker than my father's loins. For whereas my father put a heavy yoke upon you, I will put more to your yoke: my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scorpions. [i.e., raise taxes] ”

—2 Chron 10

RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:53, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Setting aside that you wrenched a quote of mine out of context, my essay at [[Essay: The USA can reduce its national debt. It has done it before]] notes:

According to Investopedia, "Austerity measures are implemented to reduce government spending and shrink the budget deficit. Austerity policies include tax increases and government program cuts. Austerity measures may result in a decline in available social services and a reduced individual disposable income."[14]
The history of recent austerity measures, as will be shortly described below, shows that raising taxes and shrinking government debt through government cost-cutting, can help solve economic problems associated with excessive government debt, but how about reducing government spending and/or increasing economic growth? Does it work? Can it work better than raising taxes to eliminate government debt? Obviously, setting taxes too low can prevent governments from doing their vital/important functions, but setting taxes too high disincentives workers from earning wages so a balance is needed (See: Laffer Curve: History and Critique).

I trust reading my essay helps clarify matters. Conservative (talk) 13:49, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I just added this to my essay: "Paring back social security benefits by increasing the retirement age would not only reduce its budget which is a big expense of the U.S. Federal government, but it could potentially reduce Medicare cost. How? There would be less retired senior citizen coach potatoes increasing their health risk due to sedentary behavior." Conservative (talk) 14:06, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I trust reading your essays only leaves people more confused.

Gimme the proper context for 2 Chron chapt 10? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 14:13, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I was referring to you wrenching a quote of mine out of context. Regardless, I clearly showed that the U.S. government can and should reduce its federal debt through lower spending. Conservative (talk) 14:20, November 13, 2023 (EST)
Oh, I don't doubt that's what you intended to do, but the method you use or recommend doesn't get you there. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 14:26, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Faith news

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is now a Christian! Hallelujah!

"The lesson I learned from my years with the Muslim Brotherhood was the power of a unifying story, embedded in the foundational texts of Islam, to attract, engage and mobilise the Muslim masses. Unless we offer something as meaningful, I fear the erosion of our civilisation will continue. And fortunately, there is no need to look for some new-age concoction of medication and mindfulness. Christianity has it all.

That is why I no longer consider myself a Muslim apostate, but a lapsed atheist. Of course, I still have a great deal to learn about Christianity. I discover a little more at church each Sunday. But I have recognised, in my own long journey through a wilderness of fear and self-doubt, that there is a better way to manage the challenges of existence than either Islam or unbelief had to offer."

From: https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ NishantXavierFor Christ the King 01:32, November 13, 2023 (EST)

This is setback for Atheists --Alex Kosh (talk) 17:05, November 14, 2023 (EST)

Oh cool! Except the outreach of Christians to Muslims is non-existent when you factor in that on information and belief they allowed themselves to be suckers to the progressives in the FBI and in the State Department to force same-sex marriage on all Western countries and apparently former African colonies?
Do I want to get married in countries where marital rites are polluted by the state recognizing them after having been terrorized by bogus mass killings? No. Do many, many young conservative kids? Probably not. Are the mass killing stories true in the first place. Well, I learned the news in the presence of you guys. You have a staff of what, a dozen regulars who do everything while at the same time a nation of millions of young Christian conservatives exist that could potentially contribute to this website?
Is that either consistent with the known facts or plausible? No. Is every last conservative isolated with a personalized Conservapedia and Twitter in order to wreck their lives and paralyze them with fear for the safety of their country? Maybe not all, but quite possibly some! So we're expected to believe the Jews, Arabs and homosexuals won some secret war to take over America, while everybody else has to sit and take it while they wreck both sacred penance and sacred matrimony, organize minority groups in their own image and cause the country to disintegrate through agitation, the next phase through hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees arriving after what very much looks like a bogus war caused by bogus mass atrocities to divert attention from their homegrown atrocities and cause a Stockholm-Syndrome-type relationship towards them after the shock of the betrayal of marriage to homosexuals? Do you want the potential bloodbath on your consciences should those Palestinians arrive on our shores?
Did you know they already did this starting early 1987 after they caused the AIDS epidemic through the sexual revolution and tried to shameface their way through it by dragging the rest of the country down with them to their level as a sort of sympathy defilement, then even renegotiated on that payment by continuing to politicize AIDS events as benefitting persons engaged in behavior for which they never repented as well as falsified claims of persecution?
But you should probably explain first the lack of conservatives who contribute here first, and why you have no rivals on the internet that would explain the discrepancy. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 01:56, November 20, 2023 (EST)
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge", Hosea 4:6. The conservative movement has too many individualist thinkers who refuse to cooperate with each other and organize. You can't herd stray cats or lone wolves. It's a natural inborn rebelliousness, in a sense. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 07:38, November 20, 2023 (EST)

Video "....

Wake up, careless .... NishantXavierFor Christ the King 11:25, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Wait wait wait....all I hear is support for Ukrainian and Palestinian Nazis from you.... 11:36, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Meanwhile, you promoted a neo-Nazi website on my talk page. And Nishant is defending Palestinian Christians, not Palestinian Nazis. Are you implying that Nazis are Christians? —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:20, November 27, 2023 (EST)
You keep saying that. Put up or shut up. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:36, November 27, 2023 (EST)
I already did before, and here is the revision link: Special:Diff/1996431 —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:48, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Oh, Okay. Thanks. If it were in a Mainspace article, the characterization of "promoting" might apply; not so much on a discussion page. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 13:18, November 27, 2023 (EST)
"bUt it wasn't rEaL promotion of Nazism. Real Nazi-sympathizing has never been tried before!11!1" —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:19, November 27, 2023 (EST)
Not to digress to far from the point of this thread, discussion pages are for exchange of ideas and sources, even those ideas and sources on the origins of the "Nazi epitaph" that aren't covered in Wikipedia mainspace. That post was about Konrad Heiden, whom you apparently never heard of, which is covered elsewhere on the web without reference to his critics. That link gives about as much full information (which you can research yourself) on a single page. That's what discussion pages are for. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 13:29, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Is that so? You should read this, written by yours truly: https://www.conservapedia.com/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_World_Today

"In 2023, Open Doors reported on an ongoing Global Genocide - the terrible and unparalleled Persecution of 360 Million Christians, which deserves to be called a Second or Ongoing Holocaust. [1][2][3] "More than 360m Christians suffer high levels of persecution and discrimination for their faith.

In Open Doors’ World Watch List top 50 alone, 312m Christians face very high or extreme levels." This demands urgent attention from all Christians and humanitarians concerned with Human Rights everywhere. Those who claim: "If I lived in the days of the Holocaust, I would do everything in my power to prevent it" have the opportunity now to do so with this Second Holocaust. It is a Moral Obligation for all Good People everywhere to help end this Violence."

Who are you, btw? I can't even see your name?

If one is a Christian, one should stand with other Christians who love Jesus first. Not those who hate Yeshua, call Him Yeshu as a slur, as in the Talmud and Toledot Yeshu, and then hate Christians because they hate Yeshua. As Christians, stand with Christians first. Secondly, end times paralysis is absolute foolishness. One should Evangelize All Nations as Christ commanded in the Great Commission. He also clearly said in the Gospel that the End will not come till All Nations hear the Gospel. Some 2 BN have not heard. End times speculation is fine, but it can't stop us from Evangelizing and doing the Christian, Moral and Humane thing of supporting Persecuted Christians. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 12:11, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Ah checked in the edit history. None other than Rob. Ok. No issue. I stand by what I said. As Christians, let's stand with Christians.NishantXavierFor Christ the King 12:13, November 27, 2023 (EST)

It constitutes moral hypocrisy for right-wing evangelical "Christians" and likewise supporters of Israel to (at least partially) justify their ideology on biblical grounds and forsake their love for innocent Arab Gazans as fellow people. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." (1 John 4:8)
And I understand the counterarguments: most Arab Gazans voted in Hamas, etc. etc. Well, does this justify the extents to which Israel is mass-bombing Gaza? Indeed, Hamas despicably uses civilians as human shields, though Israel should know this and refrain from indiscriminate slaughtering that results in needless deaths. Remember, God vowed not to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah if there were even only ten righteous people found there. (Gen. 18:32) If "Israel" is to represent biblical Jewish values, it needs to be a light unto the world instead of following after Baal and Ashtoreth. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:19, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Why do you think Israel was founded in 1948? Cause after nearly 2,000 years Jews couldn't get a fair shake in "civilized', "democratic" and "Christian" Europe. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 12:38, November 27, 2023 (EST)

"'Christian' Europe." Ah yes, the first beast of Revelation 13. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 12:49, November 27, 2023 (EST)
If NishantXavier would have in mind persecuted Christians he would post constantly about Islamic persecution of Christians, not about a few people whom the Zionist authorities and leadership actually cracks down...

One day he posts about Talmud, the other day about Zionists (which the two are not related). Of course his hate is all over the place. BTW. Over 90% of Palestinians are Muslims. And polls show, most are radicals. And of course there are more Christians inside Israel than in Gaza. He should also follow Yoseph Haddad.Dianne3000 (talk)

RobSmith & LT are right Dianne3000 (talk)

Let's clarify some fundamental facts

Marxism, socialism, communism, fascism and Nazism are entirely Western European and Western civilization inventions that were imposed upon the peoples of Eastern Europe and China without their democratic consent. Who is the victim here? And who is (or was) a threat to who?

Even in China today, they practice "Socialism with Chinese characteristics", because socialism in its purest form is an invention of Western culture, and Western civilization, that was imposed upon the people of China.

Socialism, in its many forms, is a sign of a deeply spiritual and cultural rot, that Western civilization has exported to the rest of the world, manifested today in Western society in the LGBT and transgender movements. Get you own house in order before you start pointing the finger at Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, or the CCP for the world's problems. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 16:03, November 27, 2023 (EST)

"Get you own house in order before you start pointing the finger" Aside from your incorrect grammar, I can agree with this part: the U.S., with its abortion-genocide problem, doesn't have any business pretending to be a global purveyor of human rights. As for "Socialism with Chinese characteristics," it's nothing more than Fascism. In China, they claim it's still "Communism" but there's a combination of "capitalist" tenets with state ownership, so in no meaningful sense is it "true" full-on Communism. In addition, they follow a pseudo-"national-conservative" cultural approach and the brainwashed youth are ultranationalists. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 16:10, November 27, 2023 (EST)
So who is a threat to who? the East to the West, or the West to the East, being that faulty Western ideologies have brainwashed and enslaved hundreds of millions of people? I address this question to User:Conservative, being that he has made himself quite the articulate spokesperson for neocon, globalist and Clintonian foreign policy.
Look at the latest neocon tripe User:Conservative added just yesterday, "Oleg Deripaska, described as President Vladimir Putin's "favorite oligarch"; Yah, Oleg Deripaska, the man who along with Hillary Clinton hired Christopher Steele to write the Steele dossier. The man who worked for Robert Mueller, and Andy McCabe was his case officer.
I'm sure an FBI informant is "Putin's favorite oligarch". Anybody who knows how to read can see what a massive pile of doggie doo-doo that is.
As Jesus said, "No man can serve two masters." You can't serve Robert Mueller and Vladimir Putin. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 16:25, November 27, 2023 (EST)
The real mind-boggling stupidity on the part of User:Conservative is wasting hours upon hours of his time trolling you across mainspace, essay, and talk pages; since he refuses to pay attention to my exhortations elsewhere, I suppose I'll just have to state the quiet part out loud right here. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:46, November 27, 2023 (EST)

Neocon warmonger news

"Average Americans have tuned out their elite’s snobbish arguments about the so-called “rules-based order”, “values”, “democracy”, and whatnot since many were misled by them in early 2022 into expecting “total victory” over Russia only to now discover that what they were promised is impossible.
"The UK’s Financial Times published a piece by Gideon Rachman on Monday fearmongering about “China, Russia, Iran and the prospect of American retreat”. He attempts to appeal to those Americans who are attracted to foreign policy pragmatism, or reconsidering their overextended country’s international commitments, by acknowledging their concerns about the present policy. He then suddenly shifts towards warning about global chaos if that happens, however, which discredits his argument.
"Nevertheless, the very fact that a Western Mainstream Media outlet as influential as the Financial Times felt it necessary to feign sympathy with American foreign policy pragmatists as part of a ploy for swaying them towards supporting their country’s present role as the “world policeman” speaks volumes. It belies how uncomfortable they’ve become with popular trends there over the past 20 months. Far from reasserting US hegemony, NATO’s proxy war on Russia through Ukraine only accelerated its decline."
Now, if you wish to refute Korybko, perhaps you can find solace in this piece written by the socialist historian Eric Zeuse: Poll: Most Americans want a more neoconservative, militaristic, U.S. Government. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:24, November 16, 2023 (EST)
Simply put: User:Conservative#User:_Conservative.27s_political_essays is just a collection of Bidenista screeds doing more harm than good. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:38, November 16, 2023 (EST)
So the question is: Why did Biden embark on this disastrous foreign policy path? The answer is, it didn't happen suddenly, and Biden did it for the same domestic policy prerogatives as his 1994 Crime Bill - to show Americans a Democrat president can be just as tuff on crime or pro-defense spending, if not more, as a Republican. He doesn't like Democrats being called soft on crime or pansies. Who cares if a million Iraqis, half million Ukrainians, or 2 million Gazans get killed? They don't vote in American elections. And Biden has enlisted User:Conservative to help carry the message for the past 20 months. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:00, November 16, 2023 (EST)
I'm glad you're so concerned with the neo-con fringe of Conservativism. It's obviously the most relatable part to you even though their activities are solely determined by how the members of the Judean religion have to compensate matters from this sub-group of theirs to all other sub-groups they might happen to have to maximize their profitability, political or otherwise!
So there's no need to speculate about what the significance of this or that neo-con policy is. You can just ask any given member for a rough idea of how significant the neo-cons' ideas are at any given moment or phase in some self-centered national political operation by whatever little shifts they have to encounter in their day-to-day lives in whatever bogus political front in which they happen to be engaged.
They merely have to regularly take the change in leverage they might have based on their own orientation on the political compass and distance from their guess as to center of gravity of the sum of policies of all members scattered about the political compass and compare it to how they think the latest policy change tilts things to get an idea of how a given event tilts things. Then they can take the leverage of what they guess the neo-con fringe of conservatism currently is, based on its distance from the center and rightward orientation on the political compass, and compare it to how a given policy change like an influx of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees is going to tilt things based on the center of gravity for the various groups of the religion as a whole.
"This is Jesus fellow is ranter. He ranted at the synagogue and got pushed out bodily and marched to a cliff and barely escaped with his life when we lost sight of him!"
Jesus Christ: "I'll teach in parables from now on."
VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 02:50, November 20, 2023 (EST)
I agree - neocon is a misnomer. Neocons were johnny-come-lately to the party - they rejected their leftist roots but didn't embrace conservativism, either. So they took the name 'neocon'. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 07:44, November 20, 2023 (EST)
Even the Soviet Union had their own neocons - that's who organized the August 1991 coup. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 07:53, November 20, 2023 (EST)

Biden unlocks billions for Iran

For five weeks, the Democrats tried to pose as decent human beings. In the end, it was too much for them: "Biden Unlocks Fresh Funds to Iran Totaling Billions." PeterKa (talk) 11:15, November 15, 2023 (EST)

Yah, we got it on MPR. No wonder voters are confused. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 11:25, November 15, 2023 (EST)
And the democrats will keep saying they are sure it goes for food...Dianne3000 (talk)
So it's a bribe or blackmail payoff to keep Iran out of the war? RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 17:22, November 18, 2023 (EST)

Good/Bad insurrections

Can’t wait to see how the DOJ handles the Nov 15 insurrection [16].Dianne3000 (talk)

A New Super-Power is Rising in Europe

"The European continent has been dominated by superpowers like France, Germany, and the United Kingdom for decades. But there is a new power rising in Europe and it might not be the country you expect. Poland is rising in power ©Provided by The Daily Digest" https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/there-s-a-new-major-superpower-rising-in-europe/ss-AA1cbxQe?cvid=042344e47d4b48b0b05b62887ee9e924&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=4

The Rise of Pro-Life Conservative Catholic Christian Poland - that recently publicly and solemnly declared Jesus Christ as King - as Europe's Next Super-Power is Good News for Christianity and Conservativism, and shows that Pro-Life Christianity is far from dead in Christian Europe.

See: "In a ceremony at the Church of Divine Mercy in Krakow last week, Jesus was declared the king of Poland.

The ceremony, attended by Poland's President Andrzej Duda, marked the end of the Catholic Church's Year of Mercy.

People from around the country came together and declared Christ king over their country and their hearts.

"In our hearts, rule us, Christ! In our families, rule us, Christ! ... In our schools and universities, rule us, Christ! ... Through the Polish nation, rule us, Christ! ... We pledge to defend your holy worship and preach Thy royal glory, Christ our King, we promise!" they prayed.

Their bold statement was a reminder that God comes before everything.

"We entrust the Polish people and Polish leaders to you," the prayer continued. "Make them exercise their power fairly and in accordance with your laws. ... rule us, Christ! Reign in our homeland and reign in every nation – for the greater glory of the most Holy Trinity and the salvation of mankind." https://www2.cbn.com/news/news/poland-declares-jesus-king-country Hallelujah! NishantXavierFor Christ the King 15:21, November 28, 2023 (EST)

A country needs 3 things to be very powerful: People, economic strength and military (And good geography helps too). In 2021, Poland’s fertility rate – meaning the average number of children born to a woman in her lifetime – stood at 1.33, according to Eurostat. [17] Countries with low fertility rates and not enough immigration (combined with a good education/training system to make the immigrants productive) to compensate turn into large nursing homes. I hope Poland doesn't go to war because that will make their situation worse. Conservative (talk) 20:19, November 28, 2023 (EST)

Poland is being set up to be the next Ukraine - NATO has plans to exterminate the Polish adult male population next once they're done with Ukraine. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 00:22, November 29, 2023 (EST)

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