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Homework Question

Hi Mr. Schlafly!! I was just wondering, do you want us to hand in the homework this week, or is it only for review? Thanks.--Kevin51292 07:27, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Kevin, it's optional but I'll grade yours if you'd like me to.--Aschlafly 08:33, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Exam question

mr. schlafly, how many questions are going to be on the test?--Jess 12:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)

30 questions, Jess. Would you like to join the Contest3? You're welcome to join!--Aschlafly 12:34, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Correction 35 questions will be on the midterm!--Aschlafly 22:13, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Article of the Month

I think that the World War II is the final choice. Perhaps you could change it? BethTalk 2 ME

Thanks!BethTalk 2 ME

Wanted Pages

Hi, Andy. In the last two days I created 17 new articles:

  1. Progressivism
  2. Michael Mann
  3. Al Smith
  4. Martyrdom
  5. Rodney Stark
  6. Electric field
  7. Disinformation
  8. Franco-Prussian War
  9. Operation Enduring Freedom
  10. Norse
  11. Shechem
  12. Methodology
  13. Theodosius Dobzhansky
  14. Hesiod
  15. Seymour Hersh
  16. Child abuse
  17. Sexual healing

Cheers! --Ed Poor Talk 21:12, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Wow, that's fantastic, Ed!!! You're number one for that.--Aschlafly 21:41, 6 November 2007 (EST)
Jolly good. Here are some more: Fred Hoyle, Axiom, Unconscious, Louise Bransten, Nuclear reactor, Customs, Cruise missile, Spleen, and Cockney. --Ed Poor Talk 21:38, 7 November

I think I've picked off 15 from that list myself in the past three days...and would have one more with Cruise Missle but Ed "Great Minds Think Alike" Poor and I had an edit conflict on it.Dewey 21:43, 7 November 2007 (EST)

Fantastic, both of you. I've been filling in entries myself also.--Aschlafly 22:24, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Me too! I created these pages from the "most wanted pages" list: Cherokee, Guam, Navigation, Sea urchin, Havana, Echinoderms - more to come! Taj 22:32, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Wow, Taj, that's fantastic!!! Any chance I can persuade you to join my team in the upcoming contest? You're terrific. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 10:51, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Ed, let me be the first to salute you for overcoming your aversion to taking credit for your work! Bravo, sir! :) --Colest 09:59, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Bible verse question

I tried putting a Bible verse on the front page. It's actually James 5:19-20 rather than James 5:19, and I tried putting 19-20 as the verse, and it would not show that. I then tried just putting "19" as the verse, and it won't show that, either. I've had trouble trying to put up a verse before, and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. DanH 23:18, 6 November 2007 (EST)

I can't imagine what the problem is. Are you editing Template:Mainpageleft? Can you put the verse anywhere on that page?--Aschlafly 00:06, 7 November 2007 (EST)

I was able to put the verse itself and book up with no problem, but I can't get the verse number to show. DanH 00:07, 7 November 2007 (EST)

I see, you're using the template. I don't know how that works. You might see if that same template is used successfully by other entries, and imitate that, or simply dispense with the template and type the verses in directly.--Aschlafly 00:15, 7 November 2007 (EST)

I know how to do it, will check with Dan on IM and see what's up. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 00:48, 7 November 2007 (EST)

You were using the parameter verse instead of verses. However, some time ago I changed this template so that the book, chapter, and verse parameter names are optional. Anyway, I've fixed it. Philip J. Rayment 01:07, 7 November 2007 (EST)
Thanks, Philip! I had completely forgotten who fixed that up before! Bless you for spotting this post. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 02:47, 7 November 2007 (EST)


Hello Andy - I was thinking that it'd be nice to start another contest up, it seems like it's been long enough since we've done the last one - and frankly the turnout from the contest is always incredible - so if you don't mind (and of course all this is pending your approval) I think I'll set up a contest page (with pretty much the same scoring and everything as last time) and tell the top two contributors from both teams that they're the new captains. On your mark, lol --IDuan 22:18, 7 November 2007 (EST)

Sounds great!--Aschlafly 22:24, 7 November 2007 (EST)

We better put Andy on our team this time, so he can celebrate at least once! :P --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 22:38, 7 November 2007 (EST)

mr. schlafly, do you think that it would be worthwhile to make a page with the whole constituttion?

With links and footnotes, that sounds like a great learning experience and a helpful addition!--Aschlafly 21:16, 14 November 2007 (EST)


Hello Aschlafly - given that in the last contest you were one of the top two contributors - you have been made a captain in the newest contest. The tentative starting date is Friday the 9th, and it runs for 7 days. Pick as many people as you want for your team - however, only the top 7 contributors will actually count (and it's best if you keep your team number to bellow 10 to ensure equality). If you are unable or unwilling to be the captain - please get back to me as soon as possible so we can inform the next candidate. Thanks so much - and good luck!--IDuan 22:41, 7 November 2007 (EST)

Sounds great, Iduan. Usually it takes a few more days to pick the teams, so perhaps the weekend would be a better start date, or Monday.--Aschlafly 10:24, 8 November 2007 (EST)
Sounds good - and just to let you know you're still a captain - TK just wanted to make sure both captains were officially "in" before we actually say "here are the captains"--IDuan 19:44, 8 November 2007 (EST)

Andy, as captain for Team 1, I would appreciate your comments at Breaking News on Talk:Contest3. --Crocoite 13:40, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Yes, I agree. Great idea. Posting news items is very important and useful and should be rewarded by points. Please insert your point suggestion into the Contest3 rules. I doubt the other captain will mind. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 14:07, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Thanks. I made the changes. --Crocoite 14:34, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Don't forget to name your teams, that added a lot of flavor to the last round, I thought. Aziraphale 15:34, 9 November 2007 (EST) <-paprika!

Where have you been hiding out, Aziraphale??? We've missed you.--Aschlafly 18:45, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Mr Schlafly, I'm honored to be one of your first picks! Might I recommend BrianCo for our team's next pick? He's done quite a bit of editing. Greg 21:40, 9 November 2007 (EST)
Andy, may be you have not noticed it, but User:BrianCo is available. (Number 16 in the Contest3 page, Those Interested: [1]) --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 13:20, 10 November 2007 (EST)

Does the contest start now or Monday? I thought it was Monday but I already see people counting up points, so should I count what I have done today? DanH 23:31, 9 November 2007 (EST)

  • As it says at the top of the contest page, it starts Monday, Noon, EST. If you see points being added before then, issue a warning! :P (TK runs off to contact Judge Geo....) --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 23:36, 9 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you for your invitation! Unfortunately next week I won't be able to contribute much (if at all), so I prefer to decline and cheer for the contenders. Leopeo 16:33, 10 November 2007 (EST)

Sysop question

Andy, how do you do a mass removal of a vandals edits rather than remove them one edit at a time? Conservative 21:28, 10 November 2007 (EST)

Ha ha ha, oh the marvelous power of wiki software! It's a special tool not generally available even to Sysops. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 21:51, 10 November 2007 (EST)

Ugly link colors

What I am refering to in the title of this message is the already viewed link colors (An example is User Talk:Capercorn). Not to sound mean or anything, but that color is an eyesore. It hurts to look at it. Could you change it to a more neutral shade of purple? Kthxbai. Capercorn 23:21, 10 November 2007 (EST)

I don't see the colors that you reference, probably because I changed my "Preferences" long ago. You can set your own account "Preferences" however you like.
By the way, welcome to Team1 for Contest3!!!! With your joining the team, our roster is complete! Godspeed.--Aschlafly 23:25, 10 November 2007 (EST)
Forgot I could do that, Changed the skin to MonoBook, looks much better. User:Capercorn 23:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

Our abortion article

Dear Andy,

I think I discovered 3 ways to get our abortion article more internet traffic using the same methods I used to get our homosexuality article more internet traffic. I would need a small amount of your help to do this. Please email me if you have any interest. Conservative 18:05, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Contest question

Are articles copied from public domain sources worth the same amount of points as original creations (in other words... I'm against them being worth the same amount of points...)?--Tash 22:22, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Copied public domain entries (from the federal government) usually receive lower points as a new page than a self-written entry. But keep in mind that points are awarded based on result, not effort.--Aschlafly 22:32, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Team Contest

Please visit our team's page here. ~ SharonTalk 08:53, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Do we have a super secret talk page? Thanks! --~BCSTalk2ME 14:50, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Hi again! Could you please add me to the fortress of solitude, too? Thanks!-MexMax 15:37, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Hey Andy - could you make our group a hidden page? Something like Conservapedia:Team Supply Siders/hide would be great! Thanks so much --IDuan 16:42, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Andy, I must cry foul as I cannot edit some the lecture pages to add links. This gives sysops an unfair advantage. BrianCo 17:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Why can't you? --~BCSTalk2ME 17:59, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Beth - because they are protected. BrianCo 18:01, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Even if they are locked, it is still fair. One: You guys have a heck of a lot more points than we do. And two: You guys have one more sysop than we do on your team. So get lost! just kidding! --~BCSTalk2ME 18:08, 12 November 2007 (EST)
  • Time for someone to go outside and get some air! :P Beth, Andy was given first pick. And does have a Bureaucrat on his team, making two in total. However Brian can ask any Sysop, including you, to unlock them and it will be done, just so he can edit. ;-) --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 19:05, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Request from TK

(forwarded from my talk page)

  • Sharon, Andy has evidently forgotten to make a protected/hidden team page for Team 2. Could you undertake to do so as a personal favor to me, and add the team members to access it? Thanks! --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 17:23, 12 November 2007 (EST)

~ SharonTalk 19:21, 12 November 2007 (EST)

I'd like to second this request - for team one to have one and team 2 to not is obviously unfair.--IDuan 20:25, 12 November 2007 (EST)
I'm trying, but have not yet gotten it to work yet. The log says I gave Iduan access to the new namespace "Supply_Siders", but I'm not confident it works yet. You might try it out.--Aschlafly 20:48, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Hmm, I just tested it out with no luck... strange.--IDuan 21:07, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Apology from opposing team

Andy, on behalf of TK I have blocked Sschultz for 1 day (unsportsmanlike conduct) for using a point-inflating template. I also removed his point claim for his copy-and-paste spree.

It's not fair to copy a glossary into 100 separate entries and claim that each one is an article of "only a few sentences". Many of those had 2 sentences or less.

Gaming the system smacks of liberal deceit, and I don't think it should be tolerated here. --Ed Poor Talk 21:01, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you, Ed. We believe in forgiveness also, and I hope SSchultz can return after his one-day stint in the penalty box and compete again.--Aschlafly 21:13, 12 November 2007 (EST)


You might have already seen it, but if you haven't, i left you a message on our team strategy page. God Bless! Luke 21:16, 12 November 2007 (EST)

I just now got online, and I don't seem to have access. How do I get in? Thanks, Greg 21:18, 12 November 2007 (EST)
You've got access now. Thanks!--Aschlafly 21:21, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Vandal problem solved :-)

Sorry, I wish I could do it myself. Also, I may have to retire for the night, but I'm getting the hang of this... 80 points so far today... I'll try to do more later :-)-MexMax 21:22, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Got him. Greg 21:33, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Like swatting flies... great job!-MexMax 21:42, 12 November 2007 (EST)

If you like, you can add this template to your userpage: template:user contest3wolf.-MexMax 22:07, 12 November 2007 (EST)


Hey Andy - I'm not sure if you're on now - but when you get on if you could spare a few seconds to talk on AIM I'd really appreciate it - I just want to run some personal questions by you (mostly about privileges)--IDuan 21:24, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Andy is there any way I can talk to you privately - I do have a few questions that I feel need to be answered (some on the secret page, some on other rights issues)--IDuan 22:14, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Go Timberwolves!

Might want to check our score, I just added my points... :) Greg 00:14, 13 November 2007 (EST)

AWESOME!!!!! You put us in first place!!!--Aschlafly 00:30, 13 November 2007 (EST)
That's amazing Greg! This is going to be another very exciting contest. ~ SharonTalk 06:53, 13 November 2007 (EST)
  • I don't know if we can allow you to add points based on the contested actions of SSchultz. Someone needs to figure this out, and not ignore this post. Also, since the hidden name space seems to work for Team 1, but not Team 2, perhaps we need to call off this contest, start anew when the rules are clarified. I have tried to get answers via IM and email, but when they are not answered, I can do nothing but post here, and hope others will exhibit the same good sportsmanship the are demanding of others. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 02:37, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Thanks! TK thinks that my removal of a template from SSchultz's articles (I assume this is what he's talking about) should perhaps not be counted. The template removed a total of 101 articles from the deadend and/or uncategorized lists, without them actually having links or categories. Should we bring this up to a contest judge? I think HelpJazz expressed interest in being the judge. Greg 06:57, 13 November 2007 (EST)

I don't want to call off the contest; though I'm not high up in the points, I've worked pretty hard to write a couple of good articles for it, and feel like I have plenty more in me before the week is up. DanH 03:34, 13 November 2007 (EST)

  • Well, I don't want to either, but some pretty serious allegations have been made by Andy both on wiki and off to me personally. I want to apologize to my fellow team members for not being aware of exactly what SSchultz had done, nor did any sysop contact me saying they thought what Schultz had done was wrong, either privately or by posting to my talk page. I was in my office all day, and had several appointments which kept me from following the drama. Then I had a urgent personal matter that I needed to attend to and was off-line for a whole two hours.
  • Before leaving, I discussed the matter on the phone with Ed Poor, and we mutually agreed while no per se violation of any rules or customs had been violated, being since Andy had expressed such outrage over the matter, Ed and I decided to block SSchultz for 24 hours. Personally I think there isn't much foundation for Andy's outrage. Nothing Schultz did was against any rule, implicit or implied. Second what he did, in the long run, benefited Conservapedia, and evidently it also benefited his team as well in that Greg Larson added another huge amount of points from it. Since I was not informed by Greg Larson of his intention to remove whatever template there was, and have no idea what it was really, I am concerned as to just who instructed Greg to remove it, (since he is not a sysop) and why. Team 1's seeming gain from something that has been the object of a protest by Andy, well it seems unfair to gain from something Andy personally berated me over, then accused me of helping others mock CP because I was "not in control of my team".
I thought the block was unwarranted, and I am someone who types all of his entries by hand. There was nothing he did that wasn't done in previous contests; he simply did it better. While there could be changes made to the way scoring is done or the methods used to add articles, to block the person who came up with a better mousetrap is not conservative philosophy. I feel sorry for him because I'm sure he was eager and thought he was really helping his team, and now he can't even get on the system. It's humiliating. Learn together 10:20, 13 November 2007 (EST)
To summarize, I can understand not counting his entries and limiting the methods used because it basically ends a week long contest in the first day, but he should be congratulated for his ingenuity, not punished because he was better at producing points than everyone else. Learn together 10:25, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Learn together, I respectfully disagree. His entries had zero (0) educational value, and his "ingenuity" was a mockery of the rules and a display of poor sportsmanship. It is the sort of thing that one is sent to the penalty box in hockey for. If a sport such as hockey or baseball allowed such "ingenuity" by players then the sporting event would quickly collapse.--Aschlafly 11:00, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Andy, I don't see anything different between what he did versus earlier contests. The contests have always been a mixture of article additions that varied in overall educational importance. The first contest had humming birds and ship names. The second contest had glossy terms from a hydro electric power site. And there's nothing wrong with that, if that was deemed to be acceptable, as it all seemed to be part of the fun of the contest. The only change I see here from the earlier contests is volume of posts that were able to be produced. While I can understand preventing it for balance, blocking him for it still seems inappropriate. It's retroactively telling him it was wrong when there had been no previous indication that was the case. Learn together 14:47, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Learn together, I'm not confident you are aware of how the contestant awarded himself hundreds of points for arbitrarily creating "most wanted" pages of no educational value. Yes, that is unlike anything done before and, yes, that is unsportsmanlike and required a huge clean-up effort. The punishment of a "penalty box" for one day was a light sanction.--Aschlafly 15:21, 13 November 2007 (EST)
I agree inappropriate scoring can not be allowed. As one who is used to dealing with homeschooling class situations, you probably know the extent that penalties should be applied more than the rest of us. Learn together 04:24, 14 November 2007 (EST)
  • The other "issues" I have posted about, but there hasn't been any reasonable explanation given. Andy seems capable of creating hidden pages for his team to privately discuss tactics, can add members of his own team to them, but somehow cannot create or add anyone, including me, to our own. If we had the advantage Team 1 had, perhaps the drama that Andy has been complaining about could have been avoided. That and the night editing deceit where he personally gave night editing to unknown users on his team, one of whom turned out to be a vandal, and refused to give night editing to members of Team 2, lead me to ask for the calling of, or postponement until we can sort out just what the rules are, or should be. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 08:45, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Briefly, I will now attempt to add the Supply Siders to the old Team1 secret namespace and see if that works. As to SSchultz's edits, they were plainly inappropriate and, yes, it was necessary to clean them up. Contests, like life itself itself, does require some good judgment and should not consist of applying rules in a senseless and plainly unintended manner. Thanks.--Aschlafly 10:01, 13 November 2007 (EST)
OK, I have now created the Team1 secret namespace for access only by the Supply Siders
By the way, the Supply Siders have two more players than the Timberwolves team has, so I don't think there is much basis for complaining. Also, for the record, I raised privately with TK the inappropriate edits by SSchultz and posted a challenge on their page well before any recognition by their captain of the inappropriate edits occurred. Let's forget about that move on. May the best team win!--Aschlafly 10:13, 13 November 2007 (EST)
  • Thanks for creating a hidden space for Team 2, Andy! If someone knows how to go "there" and make pages, would they please get me on IM? I apologize to all for creating a distraction with my silly sense of fairness, and specifically to Andy for criticizing him on his page. I was wrong to do that. However, what Andy does not say above, I was running a company, and unable to take the time to read or understand what Schultz did. Last night I read it all, and do not think he did anything that was more inappropriate than other team members have done in the past. However I bow to Andy's superior moral judgment in this matter. But I do not think Team 1 should get any points for changing out what Schultz did. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 14:29, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Way to go until the buzzer Andy. You never gave up! Learn together 12:03, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Congratulations to you, Learn together!!--Aschlafly 12:36, 19 November 2007 (EST)

New Scoring

Hey Andy - I figured given all the confusion this time - I should try and make a more comprehensive scoring system - and I was wondering, if you have the time, would you mind taking a look at it? User:Iduan/testrun. I think there are some definite improvements on clarity and fairness - but any feedback you can give me would obviously be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much! --IDuan 23:30, 13 November 2007 (EST)

It has a lot of merit. Well done, Iduan! But note that the copying from .gov sites, even at 2 points, needs to have some educational or historical value. We're not going allow in a ton of junk!--Aschlafly 23:39, 13 November 2007 (EST)
Yeah I completely agree with you - and really you probably have so much more knowledge than me in that area (I've never really gone around the .gov websites - unless you count the CIA World Factbook lol) - so really you could draw up a lot on that - and that way we won't have articles on the "Most Anonymous Legislation Brought Up by the Most Anonymous Representative in the World"--IDuan23:45, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Maybe we could just say that anything submitted for a contest has to be written in one's own words, because the .gov copies can be cranked out quickly outside of the realm of a contest anyway, and we can no doubt improve on some of them. DanH 23:54, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Good suggestion, Dan, but I think that intelligent copying of encyclopedic .gov material is helpful and valuable. Others can then improve the entries. The problem is when someone starts dumping a ton of non-encyclopedic, uneducational, and impossible-to-improve entries into the site. We don't want that.--Aschlafly 00:04, 14 November 2007 (EST)
Yes, Andy. A user at Wikipedia added 40,000 geographical articles generated by "Rambot" from a .gov database, but I seriously questioned the value of the contribution. It seemed done mainly to say that Wikipedia had doubled its article base! --Ed Poor Talk 19:29, 14 November 2007 (EST)

It's tough - the gov articles we're seeing now aren't even of high quality - and it's so obvious that people are just using them to get points - because they always wind up in the dead end pile - meaning people aren't even taking the effort to go through and link to other articles. At the same time though - you're right Andy in that there are good .gov articles out there - and if people put the effort in to find them that shouldn't go unrewarded. Perhaps judges would have to come in for these types of articles--IDuan 00:06, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Even though I myself am doing it (and also creating some work for myself to clean up later, which I will not claim points for) I'd actually be in favor of making an originality requirement. And, in my defense, the articles I'm creating aren't dead-ended, although they will require work.-MexMax 00:07, 14 November 2007 (EST)
I have an open mind about this. One approach is to require significant editing, including linking, to be done to any .gov copy. But most importantly, a non-encyclopedic, non-educational or non-historical .gov entry should obviously not be copied. It's that copying that must be stopped by blocking the player.--Aschlafly 00:13, 14 November 2007 (EST)

I'm going to shy away from copying followed by some editing (wiki-linking) from now on, just to be sure :-)-MexMax 00:20, 14 November 2007 (EST)

  • I agree with Andy about using copying from Government sites, when the material is significant in nature, beneficial and educational, and not just stubs for points. I think that is what he is driving at. --şyŝoρ-₮K/Ṣρёаќǃ 00:26, 14 November 2007 (EST)
I agree with TK and Andy - some editing should be required - such as linking, and the more trivial sides mentioned above should not be allowed (to be copied from .gov sites)--IDuan 00:27, 14 November 2007 (EST)

May I suggest a scoring change where there is a limit on how many points you can get for any one article? That would close a hole you have with your American History Lecture Series and creating links. The numbers can get pretty astonomical. Thanks Learn together 12:02, 19 November 2007 (EST)


Mr. Schlafly, how many points, (if any) are earned for uploading images or putting images on a page? Thanks! Luke 21:12, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Adding a quality image to an article without any is considered to be a quality edit worth 4 points. Otherwise, I'd say it is worth 2 points. Be sure the image is not copyright-protected, and ask here if you're unsure. Thanks.--Aschlafly 21:35, 14 November 2007 (EST)

OK, I've added several images from a public domain site. Thank you for your help. God Bless! Luke 21:40, 14 November 2007 (EST)


Could you make Steve Carson and Steve carson redirect to Conservapedia:Deletedpage? This would take them off the uncategorized list. Thanks! Greg 22:22, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Done!--Aschlafly 22:25, 14 November 2007 (EST)


Andy - I have just sent you an important email - if you could take a few minutes to look and respond to it i'd really appreciate it.--IDuan 23:51, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Andy again, I'm sorry to nag you but I really feel like I need a response to the email, please respond as soon as possible (preferably tonight, if possible)--IDuan 23:37, 16 November 2007 (EST)
Sorry, can't get to this now. Will try to get to it Saturday. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 00:01, 17 November 2007 (EST)
Awesome - thanks so much!--IDuan 00:05, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Hey Andy - just wanted to give you the heads up that i'm on now if you have time to talk - but I also have a favor to ask you: TK and I made a template that could standardize article clean-up templates - but I'm going to need everything with the design that TK and I did up a while ago unlocked (the design with the logo in the right, with a black border - you probably talked about it with TK) - so if you could do that for me I would really appreciate it (if necessary I can provide a list). Thanks so much!--IDuan 22:51, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Hello again Andy - sorry to bother you like this - but again I have the opportunity to edit and do what I mentioned before - and I can not. If you could get on AIM or anything - I would greatly appreciate it - again I truly feel that this is an important issue - as even beyond rights I need someone to help me edit template pages so I can put in the new standardization template (i.e. unprotect them). There are only about 10-20 that I need unprotected - and I can give you a full list on AIM - but this is something that TK and I have both worked on and we now feel is ready to implement. thanks so much, and once again my AIM screen name is lssacDuan (the first letter is "l" - haha, I had a typo while signing up and figured it wasn't that big a deal so I kept it like that). Again, thanks so much - and have a great Thanksgiving! (P.s. I'll be on for about an hour)--IDuan 15:09, 22 November 2007 (EST)

William Lloyd Garrison

William Lloyd Garrison. Sorry Andy, Slavery was already as a link. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:42, 15 November 2007 (EST)

You're right, Joaquin. I won't add points for that!--Aschlafly 09:21, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Wanted pages

We're below 50 :-D. BUT, do you think we could expand it to articles with 4 or 3 links? Thanks!-MexMax 19:21, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Sure. Let's expand it to 4 links. I'll do that now on the page above the Recent Changes.--Aschlafly 20:09, 15 November 2007 (EST)


Andy - I'm not sure if this is fixable - but we need to do something about C++ - if you click on that link, the wiki software, for whatever reason, doesn't read the "++" - and thus it just sends you to "C" - which is a redirect to "C programming language". I'll check wikipedia for how they do it -but in a few seconds I'll probably have to ask you to move it--IDuan 22:15, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Ok I'm not sure why - but it works on Wikipedia and they do essentially the same thing we do - I'm honestly not sure how to fix it - sorry--IDuan 22:18, 15 November 2007 (EST)
I don't yet know how to fix C++ either. I entered the material, and the system took it, yet clicking on it leads to a redirect to C. Help is welcome!--Aschlafly 22:33, 15 November 2007 (EST)

I'm almost positive it's because we're using an old software - because if you go to this link - it works - but the problem is if you go to this link - (which is the link that users are sent to) it doesn't. My only suggestion would be to move C++ to C Plus Plus - and then put a note on the "C Programming Language" page, like "Perhaps you were searching for C Plus Plus?" - I mean it's not perfect, in fact it's obviously makeshift - however there doesn't seem to be another way.--IDuan 22:50, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Wikipedia trying to cover up its own flaws!

Remember how Wikipedia got fooled into making an edition for a made up language? Well, now they are trying to cover that up. See and . SkipJohnson 14:19, 16 November 2007 (EST)

Great, Skip! Hey, can you join out team in the ongoing Contest3? We are at Conservapedia:Team Timberwolves. Hope you can join us!--Aschlafly 14:36, 16 November 2007 (EST)
I hardly think that deleting a Wikipedia that has no use in staying around is "covering up." The alternative would be: move it to Wikia, which would be using Wikia as a dump, something that's frowned upon, or: have someone save the entire project on their computer, which no one offered to do. Perhaps one of us will. I personally am only using about 2% of a 1TB hard drive I have, and I would honestly hate to see Wikipedia delete content, whether or not they are trying to cover up anything. GofG ||| Talk 18:27, 16 November 2007 (EST)
They also circulated the deletion in the Signpost (the Wikipedia newspaper), so if they were trying to "cover it up", they did a pretty lousy job. I can't see the point in keeping a nearly empty Wikipedia around, so deleting it makes a lot of sense.Guentar 13:37, 17 November 2007 (EST)


Hi, could I ask you to please delete Thanksgiving Day. I made this page Nov 6 because we had no entry on the holiday, but on Nov 11 someone else made another page called Thanksgiving which duplicates my page, and since we don't need 2 separate entries, one should be deleted. I'm requesting the page I made to be deleted since it's shorter and no one has added to it. Thank you! PS This is the third time someone has duplicated a page I've already made (Coast Guard was another one) so it's really important for people to do a "search" for the subject before creating new pages... not just the exact title, but on "subject" as well. Taj 13:22, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Done as requested, Taj. And be sure you have a good and blessed Thanksgiving!!!--Aschlafly 13:41, 18 November 2007 (EST)
Thank you! :-) and may you and your family have a blessed holiday as well. Taj 13:48, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Bad news!

Hi Andy! No doubt you've noticed that I haven't been active lately. Unfortunately, something's come up (I'd rather not bare my life to all the internet... so trust me on this :-) ), and I'll have to be away from my computer for a couple days. Nothing bad, though, in fact, something good! But if I don't see you soon, Happy Thanksgiving! And I'm very sorry that I have to let down our team... but I hope my prior contributions were valuable, and I have big post-contest plans for when I get back!-MexMax 17:55, 18 November 2007 (EST)

Full Ginsburg

Hey Andy - I noticed you said you were upset about the Full Ginsburg article - can you perhaps give me some specifics as to why? I am on AIM if you get teh chance - username = lssacDuan (but obviously my talk page is also fine). Thanks --IDuan 00:13, 19 November 2007 (EST)

Oh - by the way - TK explained everything to me - don't worry about responding to this - I completely understand now.--IDuan 15:15, 22 November 2007 (EST)

KVI Talk Radio in Seattle, Washington has a link to Conservapedia

CP ref2 on KVI.png

[2] --Crocoite 20:21, 19 November 2007 (EST)


Thanks for your recent advice on my talk page. I will try to stay more rigorously on topic on talk pages in the future. I am still curious, however, in relation to the hearsay comments posted by HPagetF on Talk:Main Page. The comment has been there for a while with no response. I assumed that you had not seen it. --Gridley 20:19, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Well, fine, I'll take a look now. That's one of the purposes of a user talk page, to alert someone to a discussion he may not have seen.--Aschlafly 20:33, 20 November 2007 (EST)


Hi Andy;

I was hoping that you could quickly check in with your team and see if they have noticed any suspicious areas they would like examined in the other team's totals. Geo.Complain! 02:11, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Did as requested, please see Contest3. Thanks!--Aschlafly 14:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)

I sent you an email

If you have a moment, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, Ian ItMathers 13:33, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Didn't receive it. Post an appropriate message here. Thanks.--Aschlafly 14:13, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Hello Andy,

I am writing to request an interview. I am an independent journalist (in my non-CP life) working on a book about how different groups in the U.S. use rhetoric to affect change in their lives. I really want to hear what you have to say about the things CP has achieved in the last year and your plans for the future.

I imagine about 30 minutes by phone is all I would need.

I can be reached at my CP email address or by calling XXX-XXX-XXXX.

Thank you for your time and attention, Ian ItMathers 14:46, 21 November 2007 (EST)

What's the publication or is this freelance?--Aschlafly 16:15, 21 November 2007 (EST)
Right now it is a book project I've spent the better part of a year working on. I am trying to write the proposal now. Non-fiction, but not really freelance as this book is my own project (--I've worked on others for my job.) I was hoping for about 30 minutes of your time just to ask a few questions about Conservapedia, but also about the burgeoning conservative movement from the perspective of someone who can speak on it as an insider. The popularity of this site is evidence of that popularity and as its founder, your perspective would serve to inform any thoughtful discussion of the topic. I can be reached at or, email me and I will send you my phone number. I'd rather not post it here for obvious reasons. Thanks so much! ItMathers 11:12, 23 November 2007 (EST)
Hi Andy, I don't want to be a pest, but I was wondering if you had made a decision. I can be reached at: Thanks and have a great day! ItMathers 22:57, 25 November 2007 (EST)


(first of all - don't worry, this isn't about the rights) Ok Andy - so since AIM is obviously not an option - I have a few favors I have to ask of you here - I'd really appreciate it if you could do these things for me - as again, I'm trying implement the standardization system I set up (and TK approved). Can you unprotect (a lot of these are the same templates but TK didn't want to do redirects since they're a strain on the server):

  1. Template:CPEW
  2. Template:Protection Warning
  3. Template:CPLock
  4. Template:Protected
  5. Template:CP PermProtect
  6. Template:CPCN
  7. Template:Uncited
  8. Template:CPGram
  9. Template:CPPOV
  10. Template:Stub
  11. Template:CPTemp
  12. Help:Templates

? All of them will look and work exactly the same except they'll use the standardization template - and therefore if we ever want to change the way all the templates look - it'll be a lot easier. The reason I need the last one (Help:Templates) unprotected is because a few typos and I need to add a template. thanks so much - and I'm sorry we couldn't talk (although simply because I'm persistent I'm obligated to say that I'm still online)--IDuan 19:07, 22 November 2007 (EST)

Iduan, I welcome and appreciate your efforts but I still do not understand what you seek to do here, and simply saying that "TK approved" is not sufficient. Hopefully you can explain this a bit better before I embark on a wholesale change of numerous templates. Thanks much and happy Thanksgiving.--Aschlafly 19:21, 22 November 2007 (EST)
Ahh - sorry, I thought there was a convo between you two earlier - (and before I start - have a great thanksgiving too!). Well, do you remember how TK and I changed the design of a bunch of templates a while ago? Well - those above are the templates. All of them have the same basic design, with the only variance being text and color. So, I created a template that had that design - however it would allow you to set the color and text - in other words, a template to create templates. This template will allow us, if ever a need presents itself, to change the style of all of those templates simply - and it will encourage standardization, and it will allow template creation to be a lot easier. Therefore if you could unprotect those so I can add that template - and if you could unprotect the last one so I can fix typos - I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much! (Oh and if you still need some clarification obviously feel free to ask)--IDuan 19:25, 22 November 2007 (EST)
Iduan, again I want to emphasize that I appreciate your effort and help, but you propose a substantial change that simply cannot be done without more discussion by many Sysops, not simply one or two. Templates are used by hundreds of people and entries. Your idea may be a terrific one but I don't simply decide these things by myself based on bits and pieces of information. For example, the template you asked me to unprotect is used by over 500 entries. I need more than one or two sets of eyes to consider this significant change. In the meantime, I encourage you to make some quality edits. Thanks much.--Aschlafly 19:50, 22 November 2007 (EST)
Ok fair enough, although again I'd like to emphasize that the templates themselves would not change at all (in fact this template is already used at the debate templates - that was the one that TK had time to unprotect before he left), but I understand your hesitation. Well, if you ever do get a chance to talk to me about the email I sent you concerning user rights I'd really appreciate it - but if not I guess I will talk to you later, thanks so much, --IDuan 20:00, 22 November 2007 (EST)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Hello Mr. Schlafly, could you delete the vandalism the user I just blocked created? Thanks, and I hope you and your family had a lovely Thanksgiving. Greg 22:09, 22 November 2007 (EST)

Done, and a happy Thanksgiving to you and your family also!--Aschlafly 22:47, 22 November 2007 (EST)

The article page on "Liberal".

Mr. Schlafly, allow me to introduce myself. I am a United States citizen who is a conservative, Christian, home-schooling father of two children. I just signed up today to help edit and maintain this wonderful resource. I look forward to finally helping with a serious on-line encyclopedia that is not rampantly Liberal leaning and biased like that other 'pedia.

I am dismayed to find the page Liberal has a, while funny, very unprofessional graphic included. As well the page does not have request for citation on many of the points in the bulleted list. I understand the page is controversial and locked to editing. My argument is, in that case the graphic should be removed by an administrator and the citations for the bulleted list provided by administrators as well. I look forward to you helping to resolve this problem with an otherwise very professional educational resource. Thank you. (unsigned by Eracc)

User:Eracc, thank you for your interest and comments. I contributed most of the entry for liberal but did not contribute the cartoon, and I share some of your concerns. However, we are a meritocracy. That means decisions are made by considering the views of those who contribute the most to the material here. I do not know who introduced the humorous cartoon, but most likely that person has contributed far more to this site than you have and he will receive appropriate deference because of it. Hopefully you can become a significant contributor. But as of now, you've complained as much as you've contributed, and that means your criticism does not yet carry much weight. The more you contribute, the more weight will attach to your suggestions.
As to citations, statements of fact that are indisputably true do not need references. What do you dispute in the liberal entry? Our time is better spent than find citations for obvious statements, such as that liberals support taxpayer-funded abortion. We don't allow here the silly "citation needed" games that are used to inject liberal bias on Wikipedia.
Thanks again for your comments and all the best in your homeschooling efforts. I've taught over 120 homeschoolers, and counting.--Aschlafly 23:17, 22 November 2007 (EST)
Mr. Schlafly, thank you for the considerate response. I understand your point of view, thank you for explaining. I will be happy to "earn" my place here by contributing more. The comment about the bulleted list and citations comes from a self-proclaimed Libertarian friend of mine that lives in Canada. I had pointed him to this resource and was subsequently embarrassed when he pointed out the graphic on the Liberal page. Personally I agree with every point in the bulleted list based on what I read and see in the main-stream media here in the USA. People from outside the USA, like those in Canada, are likely to not see the points as valid since they do not have "our" experience of Liberals here. Again, I appreciate this resource and look forward to contributing more in the future. --Gene Alexander Thu Nov 22 22:32:44 CST 2007
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. For now I'll move the cartoon lower in the page as I share your concerns.
But the bullet points are indisputable. Of course liberals pretend they do not support taxpayer-funded abortion and they pretend they do not censor classroom prayer, because they lose followers as soon as they admit that. But they indisputably do both and no one seriously denies it.
Thanks again for your interest and I look forward to learning from your contributions.--Aschlafly 23:45, 22 November 2007 (EST)


I sent you a very serious email. I am, as ever, your friend. Niallofthenine 09:21, 23 November 2007 (EST)

I won't receive it. Post your proper communications here in an appropriate manner. Thank you.--Aschlafly 10:21, 23 November 2007 (EST)

Validating e-mail address?

Mr. Schlafly, I have attempted several times with more than one e-mail address to get my e-mail to verify. I have not to date gotten a single verification message. Is there a problem getting mail to me that you can find? I would post the addresses here for you to test but I really don't want to make them public for SPAM-bots to harvest. Thank you for your attention to this -- Gene Alexander Fri Nov 23 19:49:56 CST 2007

Gene, this is your second complaint, which is twice your substantive contributions. I don't know the answer to your particular technical question, but we're here to write and learn and I hope you can begin to do likewise! Godspeed.--Aschlafly 20:59, 23 November 2007 (EST)
Mr. Schlafly, I am not intending this as a complaint. I know that is difficult to convey in writing and I apologize if I come across that way. I am a technical guy, a geek if you will, and deal with technical problems (such as undelivered e-mail) often. I see this as a technical problem that needs to be solved. If in your opinion this is a non-issue then I will drop it and no longer be concerned about the problem. For what it is worth I am on today to do exactly as you suggest with some more contribution. I simply wanted to ask you about the e-mail first. Humbly -- Gene Alexander Fri Nov 23 20:07:56 CST 2007


Hello Andy - remember the possible point system for the next contest I did? Well, just to keep you on top of things - I just updated some of it per the conversation at Contest3, and I plan to do so as that goes on. Also - since I have no real way of setting up a dialogue with the sysops - would you mind doing so about our template conversation above? If you need me to speak at all in the dialogue I'd be more than happy to. thanks so much!--IDuan 23:42, 23 November 2007 (EST)

Hey Andy - has there been any word on this, sorry I seem anxious but it's a fairly big job going through each one - so every time I have enough time ahead of me to do it I'd like to grab at it. You can still reach me on AIM if you have any questions or anything like that.--IDuan 16:03, 24 November 2007 (EST)


Mr.Schlafly, what time is curfew tonight. I was planning on staying up late and reducing the wanted pages, but I wanted to make sure I had time. Thanks and God Bless! Luke 00:14, 24 November 2007 (EST)

Some goods news and question regarding Alexa spike

Andy, I have some great news regarding the homosexuality article which I will be telling you about via private email. Secondly, there appears to be a big spike in Alexa internet traffic as can be seen here:Alexa (internet traffic) What do you think is the most reasonable explanation for the Alexa internet spike? Conservative 13:26, 24 November 2007 (EST)

Beauty and Women


Can someone help me write an article on the beauty industry? --Ed Poor Talk 14:01, 24 November 2007 (EST)

me edit reverted

Excuse me sir, I am a bit confused about why you would remove my comment. Did I do something improper? -- Kentucky Pride!

Your edit seemed silly and self-centered. And then I checked your talk page, and there was a complaint about your posting empty pages. Have you figured out yet that this is an encyclopedia? Please contribute some insights or information of educational value. You'd be doing yourself a favor. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 23:12, 24 November 2007 (EST)
I am sorry if by trying to congradulate you I seemed silly and self-centered, you have my apologies. As to my user talk page however I have no clue what you are talking about, my talk page does not exist, nor has it ever existed. (note: after I posted this my user talk page was created by Iduan) -- Kentucky Pride!
Ok I can take this one if you don't mind Andy. KentuckyPride - your talk page will exist when someone decides to post something on your talk page, which I will do in a second. Secondly, Do not end your signature how you are - that's a drain on the server. Instead, simply type four tildes. (four of these: ~ ).--IDuan 00:09, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Thanks for the welcome! KentuckyPride 00:12, 25 November 2007 (EST)


Mr. Schlafly, I have just reverted some vandalism but there have been several new accounts created with dubious names. As the site seems quiet today I hope that you can stick around in case any blocking needs to be done. BrianCo 11:21, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks for the tip, Brian. I've given you blocking power now so you can directly block vandals in the future. Congratulations!--Aschlafly 12:59, 25 November 2007 (EST)
I am gratified by your trust. Hopefully it is not something I need to use often. BrianCo 13:08, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Article titles

Aschlafly, could you please clarify the policy over the case in titles of articles. I have seen posts here that say all words should begin with a capital letter but you have made many articles where this is not done. Is this just a slip on your part or has the policy been changed? Gerrard 12:21, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Capitals letters to begin words in titles is a good idea, but I apologize for not sticking with it. I often use redirects to ensure people can find the term regardless of the convention used. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 12:28, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Breaking News

Andy, the following item is at the bottom of the Breaking News section:

Contest3 has just concluded. Congratulations to all participants! Judges are now sought to review the work, tally the results and make recommendations for the next contest. Sign up as a judge here.

Since the judging is underway, I believe this item is ready to be archived. Do you agree? --Crocoite 12:28, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Yes, thanks much for seeing that, Crocoite. Please archive.--Aschlafly 12:50, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Public apology


I wanted to make a public apology regarding my treatment of you in the past. For several months before my resignation, a certain CP sysop assured me that you were actively attempting to find a reason to get "rid" of me. After I resigned, largely due to being convinced of this truth, this sysop shed his sheep's clothing and showed me that you were one of the few admins left who actually trusted me. For this I am thankful, and hope you can forgive me for any offensive personal comments I made about you in the past.

I also would like to humbly request that you delete the rest of my subpages, specifically User:Hojimachong/Sandbox and User:Hojimachong/archivelink.

Thank you,

--Hojimachong 20:39, 26 November 2007 (EST)


Do not the delete the above. I have been informed that the template that organizes your archive is in those pages.Geo.Complain! 20:53, 26 November 2007 (EST)

I was just going to add the same thing. Yes, the second page mentioned is used on this very page. It could (and should) be replaced, but until it is, it should not be deleted. Philip J. Rayment 20:57, 26 November 2007 (EST)
I don't think Hoji realized that his template was in use. Anyway, I moved it to Template:Archivelink2 and updated the links on Andy's archive page. I think we're "safe" now. --Ed Poor Talk 21:04, 26 November 2007 (EST)
Actually, the change has caused an error in the upper right-hand portion of this page, unfortunately.--Aschlafly 21:17, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Andy I've found the Wikipedia solution to this - if you don't mind i'm going to create (well, copy) a template from wikipedia that will fix the redirect.--IDuan 21:31, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Well, nevermind - it turns out we don't need the template - I figured out the problem: When the page was redirected, it was redirected to Archivelink2 - which redirected to Template:Archivelink2 - and that's a double redirect, which doesn't work. So, I just changed the redirect to go directly to Template:Archivelink2--IDuan 21:37, 26 November 2007 (EST)
Thanks much!--Aschlafly 21:38, 26 November 2007 (EST)

I went ahead and fulfilled Hoji's request now. --Ed Poor Talk 21:56, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Unlocking New England Patriots

Could you please unlock the New England Patriots article. I have no idea on why it's locked.--Tash 14:35, 27 November 2007 (EST)

You can't be too careful! Just kidding ... thanks for pointing out the inappropriate lock. It's been unlocked.--Aschlafly 14:39, 27 November 2007 (EST)
Thank you very much!--Tash 14:45, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Upload Rights Removed

Mr. Schlafly, why did you remove my uploading rights. I ave only uploaded good pictures and added them to articles. Can you give me the reasoning behind this? Thanks. Luke 20:01, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Luke, I periodically adjust rights based on the quality of their usage and a variety of other factors. Don't take it personally or read much into it. There was room for improvement in the quality of your edits/uploads and I trust you will improve. Thanks, and with improvement you can have another opportunity. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 20:37, 27 November 2007 (EST)

I respect your authority and your ultimate decision,but I sense that there is moreto the issue than what you listed above. My pictures were pretty good and contributed to this website. I hope eventually I will show you that I deserve these priveleges. Luke 20:49, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Really, Luke? I wonder what "more to the issue" you think was involved. Regardless, I look forward to your future edits.--Aschlafly 21:09, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Small Request

I just noticed that you delated a number of articles created by troll AlvinTapinga. I would appreciate it if you could undelete the Adam Vinatieri article that he/she/it created. Thanks--Tash 17:36, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Done as requested!--Aschlafly 17:41, 28 November 2007 (EST)


Hey Andy - I was just looking through those "templates" that I had done - and I realized a fairly significant problem, but in order to explain that I have to first let me explain my past actions with them. I created the templates (tables) in order to shorten the amount of confusing syntax on each page. The tables were originally put in the template namespace (i.e. they had 'Template:' in front of them), however, through talking with Tash and through my own thinking, I realized two things: 1) the templates would only be used on one page - which means that they probably should not be in the template namespace, and 2) The templates would have to be changed frequently - if you know anything about sports you know that teams frequently cut or trade players, and since pages in the template namespace are more often than not protected per precedent, I realized these tables should not go there. So, since on all but one (which I was planning on requesting a move for) were only edited by me, I began cutting and pasting the tables into subpages of the sole article they would go on, and each time I cut and paste one table from the template namespace, to a subpage, I would nominate what was formally in the template namespace for deletion. Now somehow this all got confused - and it ended up that the pages were moved back to the template namespace and protected - which obviously presents the problem I mentioned I had. The tables will need to be updated frequently, but most can not edit it. Thus, I'd like to request that you allow me to continue the process of cutting and pasting the templates into subpages for the following two reasons:

  1. All can edit it, because they're subpages
  2. It's NOT a security risk - those who are not familiar with wiki-syntax will have difficulty finding the tab;es - as they'll probably try to find them in the template namespace.
  3. It's more appropriate - as the tables are only used on one page

Thanks so much for your decision - and feel free to ask me to elaborate more if necessary.--IDuan 18:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Andy not to rush you on this, but if you could get back to me tonight on either this or the comment higher up (about unlocking templates so I can make a minor formatting change) I'd really appreciate it - I have a lot of time on my hands so I could make all the changes if you get back to me on the one higher up - or some of the changes if you get back to me on the bellow - either way, a start's a start! Thanks so much,---IDuan 23:36, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Iduan, I can't get back to you so quickly. I'm entering substantive material and learning, and do not fully understand the issue of templates and all the ramifications. I rely on my other Sysops for advice, and none has expressed an opinion yet.--Aschlafly 23:56, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Ok no problem - again, sorry for kind of rushing you like that - again it just so happened that tonight was open and I figured that assuming it was comfortable with you I'd try and take advantage of it - but I'm sure I'll be open some other time. If you need me to explain anything to the sysops then, feel free to ask, --IDuan 23:58, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Iduan, I'm one that hasn't expressed an opinion, because I don't understand enough of what you are wanting to do, and because I was leaving it to TK seeing you had been dealing with him. However, as the situation with TK has changed, if you'd like to explain it to me more on my talk page, I'll see what can be done. Philip J. Rayment 00:26, 29 November 2007 (EST)

Dear Mr. Schlafy

I am a high school student who is considering writing an article about Conservapedia in our High school magazine, which is produced bi-annually. Your website would have a few paragraphs in a special part of the magazine that deals with the internet. I am particularly interested in your attempts to create a conservative alternative to what you perceive as a 'Liberal' Wikipedia (I don't see any particular bias there, but there you go)

I would appreciate a reply as soon as you get a chance.


Josiah Bartleby. JosiahB 10:39, 30 November 2007 (EST)

Sure. Happy to help. Would you like ask any questions here?--Aschlafly 10:41, 30 November 2007 (EST)


1) What motivated you to found this website, and how do you think the negative satirical feedback you got from the Daily Show helped develop the site and its membership base?

The motivation was to create a resource for learning without the liberal bias that permeates Wikipedia.--Aschlafly 11:36, 30 November 2007 (EST)

2) In hindsight, is there anything you would do differently?

In hindsight, I would not have been so patient and accommodating to unproductive liberals on the site as I was in the early months. While liberals are welcome, I would have implemented the 90/10 rule against useless talk sooner.--Aschlafly 11:36, 30 November 2007 (EST)

3) How would you react to criticism from left wing blogs that Conservapedia is nothing more than a right wing blog (In relation to the main page 'news' entries)

Blogs are dinosaurs, and the left wing blogs should realize this. Conservapedia is a learning resource, unlike blogs. The page views at Conservapedia are thousands of times greater than the left wing blogs that criticize it.--Aschlafly 11:36, 30 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks again! JosiahB 11:13, 30 November 2007 (EST)

PS- In relation to this place being described as a blog, I am taking unencyclopedic and highly opionated articles like atheistic and Liberal style into account.

Observations about style can be scientifically tested. Few if any of the entries atheistic style and liberal style are disputable. Regardless, those entries are not a representative sample of the entries here, and I'm confident you did not find those entries by using the "Random page" feature.--Aschlafly 11:36, 30 November 2007 (EST)


I have reverted his edits, but am no longer able to block. Greg 19:17, 30 November 2007 (EST)

Blocked. Thanks for the alert. --Crocoite 19:36, 30 November 2007 (EST)


Andy, I sent you an email earlier this morning. --Crocoite 14:56, 1 December 2007 (EST)

I just sent you a super important email. I have proof of something we talked about earlier

I just sent you a super important email. I have absolute proof of something we talked about earlier. I have to go now as some wonderful cook invited me for some free food and I can't resist. I will be back after dinner though. Conservative 20:24, 1 December 2007 (EST)

No offense, but if you sent the email, there's no reason to post to the wiki letting him know that you sent it :-). --Ymmotrojam 20:34, 1 December 2007 (EST)
Aw, lay off the guy. :P Everyone knows Andy prefers to have discussion on the wiki. ;-) --Ed Poor Talk 19:17, 2 December 2007 (EST)