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Northwest (talk) 19:08, May 15, 2023 (EDT)
- We already got Technofog posted. He's a better analyst. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:37, May 15, 2023 (EDT)
- By contrast, Gatewaypundit just called Zelensky's regime, "Zelensky's Nazi regime", [2] so they are improving. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:39, May 15, 2023 (EDT)
- So Gatewaypundit is improving - a year too late now that the Nazis (with US & NATO help) just nuked their own people. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:44, May 15, 2023 (EDT)
Propaganda 101
In 22 minutes, Judge Napolitano and former CIA analyst Larry Johnson cover current news and background]. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:31, May 17, 2023 (EDT)
MacGregor: Ukraine had 1,600 killed yesterday. How long will we allow this neo-Nazi insanity to continue? RobSGive Peace a chance 23:22, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
Ukrainian terrorist who damaged Russian AWACS in Belarus faces death penalty on terrorism charges, Zelensky ignores his appeal for help. [3] RobSGive Peace a chance 17:46, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
Elon Musk demonstrates just how stupid the word "antisemitism"/"anti-Semitism" is
After Musk calls out Soros, the Marxists freak out and immediately label him an "antisemite." And so, he responds, "I'm like a pro-Semite, if anything." The notion that "Semitism," whether you leave it capitalized or not, is synonymous with Jewry, is utter rubbish invented by Wilhelm Marr. —LT (Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 00:40, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- So what would you propose in its place? RobSGive Peace a chance 01:07, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- "Anti-Jewry" or "Jew-hatred" is the proper term to use instead of "antisemitism," and "pro-Jewry" possibly would be a preferable antonym. I'm not a foremost expert on this particular matter. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 01:13, May 18, 2023 (EDT)- Oh, so you want to go back 125 years to Wilhelm Marr and rewrite history? RobSGive Peace a chance 04:05, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Nah, I'm not interested in time travel. And since Marr is currently resting in Sheol, there's not point trying to talk to him, unless, of course, one believes in the concept of the eternal soul which opens the gate to spiritism. OTOH, I affirm soul sleep as the Bible says. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 11:04, May 18, 2023 (EDT)- So that's where you get these whacked out ideas from, like soul sleep or that you can rehab the entire planet and help cover up 125 years of antisemitism by renaming it. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:05, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Wow, a biblical teaching articulated in the books of Job, Psalms, Ecclesiastes, John, and Acts are whacked out? Also, I never said that switching from usage of "antisemitism"/"anti-Semitism" to "Jew-hatred" will alone solve anything, but it's not an excuse to slack in linguistic accuracy. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 13:10, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Wow, a biblical teaching articulated in the books of Job, Psalms, Ecclesiastes, John, and Acts are whacked out? Also, I never said that switching from usage of "antisemitism"/"anti-Semitism" to "Jew-hatred" will alone solve anything, but it's not an excuse to slack in linguistic accuracy. —
- So that's where you get these whacked out ideas from, like soul sleep or that you can rehab the entire planet and help cover up 125 years of antisemitism by renaming it. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:05, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Nah, I'm not interested in time travel. And since Marr is currently resting in Sheol, there's not point trying to talk to him, unless, of course, one believes in the concept of the eternal soul which opens the gate to spiritism. OTOH, I affirm soul sleep as the Bible says. —
- Oh, so you want to go back 125 years to Wilhelm Marr and rewrite history? RobSGive Peace a chance 04:05, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- "Anti-Jewry" or "Jew-hatred" is the proper term to use instead of "antisemitism," and "pro-Jewry" possibly would be a preferable antonym. I'm not a foremost expert on this particular matter. —
- That which is flesh is flesh, that which is spirit is spirit
- Ye must be spiritually born
- Tell me, where does the Bible speak of a fleshly resurrection? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:09, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Don't you understand that we'll have physical bodies in Heaven? Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV) states that death is the separation of a person's body from the spirit, aka the breath of life. An individual person, aka the soul, is comprised of the dust of the ground which requires the breath of life to remain alive. Upon death, the soul ceases to exist yet will be resurrected, and because the physical matter which comprised the body returns to the ground, that's why it's called "soul sleep," "resting in Sheol," etc. Earthly death is nothing more than a perfect sleep, and at the next moment of an individual who died, it's either at the first resurrection or second resurrection. It could be thousands of years between their death and the resurrection, yet to them will feel like nothing more than an instant because in sleep, one has no conscious perception of time. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 13:14, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Don't you understand that we'll have physical bodies in Heaven? Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV) states that death is the separation of a person's body from the spirit, aka the breath of life. An individual person, aka the soul, is comprised of the dust of the ground which requires the breath of life to remain alive. Upon death, the soul ceases to exist yet will be resurrected, and because the physical matter which comprised the body returns to the ground, that's why it's called "soul sleep," "resting in Sheol," etc. Earthly death is nothing more than a perfect sleep, and at the next moment of an individual who died, it's either at the first resurrection or second resurrection. It could be thousands of years between their death and the resurrection, yet to them will feel like nothing more than an instant because in sleep, one has no conscious perception of time. —
- It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh profiteth nothing
- All flesh is grass, here today and cast into the oven tomorrow
- Seems to me you're focused too much on the flesh.
- To be carnally minded is death.
- RobSGive Peace a chance 13:16, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- That doesn't substantiate immediate judgment, which was influenced by Mithraist fables. Surely for a biblical expert as yourself, you've read all the Old Testament verses about individuals resting in the grave with their fathers? It's amazing how so many supposedly diligent Christian Bible-believers nowadays missed the dozens of verses describing death as a sleep. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 13:19, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- That doesn't substantiate immediate judgment, which was influenced by Mithraist fables. Surely for a biblical expert as yourself, you've read all the Old Testament verses about individuals resting in the grave with their fathers? It's amazing how so many supposedly diligent Christian Bible-believers nowadays missed the dozens of verses describing death as a sleep. —
- I've read all the OT verses about the resurrection, beginning with Abel's blood cries to me from the ground. Seems to me Abel wasn't "resting". RobSGive Peace a chance 13:21, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Explain that, How was "righteous Abel" declared "righteous" before Jesus was born? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:24, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- How was Abel able to repent and come to Jesus to be declared righteous before God before Jesus was born? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:47, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- James answers that for us:
- How was Abel able to repent and come to Jesus to be declared righteous before God before Jesus was born? RobSGive Peace a chance 13:47, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
| “ | But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? | ” |
—James 2:20–22 | ||
- Abel's faith was completed by his works when he gave the proper offering. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 11:52, May 19, 2023 (EDT)- So let me get this straight - you are acknowledging that Abel was resurrected? RobSGive Peace a chance 17:06, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Um, no, I didn't say that at all. Abel will be resurrected, though that hasn't happened yet. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 19:39, May 19, 2023 (EDT)- If he wasn't resurrected, how was his blood able to cry from the ground? How was he declared righteous, if he was just sleeping in the grave awaiting judgement? RobSGive Peace a chance 10:49, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- The problem with SDA and other teachings is the belief that the resurrection is (a) fleshly, and (b) future.
- 1 Jn 3:15: We know that we have passed from death unto life (past tense)
- Jn 5:6 (KJV): He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. (present tense)
- (ESV): whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. (past tense)
- To be "spiritually born", or "born from above", or "born again" (as in Jn 3:7) is to be resurrected from death to life.
- Um, no, I didn't say that at all. Abel will be resurrected, though that hasn't happened yet. —
- So let me get this straight - you are acknowledging that Abel was resurrected? RobSGive Peace a chance 17:06, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Abel's faith was completed by his works when he gave the proper offering. —
- Death fell upon all the children of Adam because of Adam's sin. Death is separation from God. Hell is eternal separation from God. In him was life... RobSGive Peace a chance 13:40, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
- The decision to be adopted into God's family is not a decision God makes in final judgement. It is a decision each and every one of us makes individually while alive in the flesh. To repent, or have a change of heart and change of mind toward God, and about God, humble ourselves and ask forgiveness, and realize we were not created for self-serving ends, as Lucifer believed. At that point, we become resurrected from death to life and a new creature in Christ. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:58, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
Yes, many on the left use terms like "anti-semitism" improperly. If you hate all Jews just because of their race etc, then you're an anti-semite. But criticizing some radical leftists who happen to be Jews, like Soros et al, is not "anti-semitism" except to other leftists. And many people are ignorant of this part of recent history, where some Jews, according to this Jewish site itself, aligned themselves with radical left Bolshevist movements: "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf." https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html 01:05, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Exactly—in fact, there' really two types of people who harp over the "Soros is Jewish!" argument: neo-Marxists and the alt-right (neo-Nazis). And there's the two sides to the coin: the Marxists, obsessed with Soros's nominal Jewish identity, will deride any condemnation of him as "antisemitism," thinking that everyone else is as obsessed with Soros's supposed "Jewishness" as they are. And Nazis think that Soros's "Jewishness" means everything he does is part of a "grand Jewish conspiracy." On the other hand, in contrast the leftists on both the Marxist and alt-right factions, conservatives understand the simple fact that Soros is an apostate, self-hating Jew who betrayed his own kindred, as he outright unabashedly admitted, without remorse, of being a silently complicit in Nazi persecution. Leftists absolutely hate it when you invoke this fact.
- You need to be careful about the argument that Jews were Communist, as that was the propaganda line exploited by the right-wing Russian monarchists and left-wing Nazis to justify their anti-Jewry. Individuals born to Jewish backgrounds but eager to forsake Judaism found atheistic Communism appealing, and there was a rift among the Jews—the apostates, attracted to the false god of Marxism rather than obeying the God of the Bible, wound up viciously partaking in the persecution of devout religious Jews. IOWs, all the "Jews" who supported Communism were self-hating Jews. And Judaism has always opposed Communism. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 11:52, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
War in Ukraine: U.S. government spending on war is scandalous
In the past 48 hours:
- $500 million worth of ammo destroyed in Khleminitsky;
- $158 million in Patriot Missiles fired off in two minutes to avoid being destroyed on the ground along with the Patriot Missile battery; [4]
- $5 billion in Patriot Missile batteries destroyed in Kyiv.
Now if me, a nobody, knew this would happen a year ago when the US embarked on this insane war with Russia, the boys at Raytheon and in the Pentagon certainly knew it, too. Yet they needlessly got 200,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed in their greed so they can beg Congress for more money to upgrade and develop new systems to match the Russians. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:23, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
The Patriot Missile was a scam in 1991 when they rushed it out of development to deploy in the Gulf War, where it killed 200+ Americans and never shot down a single SCUD, and it's been a scam ever since. The Third World Houthis destroyed a Patriot Missile battery. Yet the MIC propaganda machine has touted it as America's most advanced missile defense system since the 1980s. And we've scammed taxpayers and how many nations with the same sales pitch. Now the MIC will want MORE money. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:28, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
This was entirely predictable. The US, focused on "air superiority", has always thought of "air defense" secondarily, and at that not until the 1980s. The Russians, understanding America's aggressive attitude in striving for "air superiority", never tried to compete, but has focused on "missile defense superiority" (going back to the 1959 U2 incident). The US will never have "air defense" superiority, unless it wants to give up "aerial attack" superiority first. There is no balance in American strategic thinking. It prioritizes offensive capabilities, and defense only gets leftovers and scraps. So Russian strategic thinking is the complete inverse. Russia does not prioritize offense (it does not harbor aggressive intent against anyone). It prioritizes defense, as it did when it lured Germany deep into Russia at Stalingrad, and as it has done in luring NATO and the EU into a trap. RobSGive Peace a chance 04:51, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
- Any sucker who got on the Zelensky/Ukraine bandwagon needs to remember Adam Schiff's immortal words when he impeached Trump, "We fight Russia over there so we don't have to fight them here". Yah, Russia can't even cross the Dnieper to reach Kherson (capitol of a Russian Republic) or Odessa, but it's gonna cross two oceans to take on a country twice its size in population and a defense budget more than 10 times larger. Congratulations. You made yourself a fool listening to MSM propaganda and getting in bed with Nazis. RobSGive Peace a chance
In 1991 Ukraine was 50 million people; today it is less than half that; some say as low as 18 million; an estimate I saw yesterday said 13-15 million. That is what "independence", "capitalism", "freedom", and "democracy" has done for Ukraine. Russia does not need more land or borders to defend. Russia entered Ukraine for one reason - to protect the 8 million people of the Donbas from the neo-fascist Kyiv regime and its NATO allies. RobSGive Peace a chance 05:25, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
It's Russia's thuggish behavior that has caused 14+ Million Ukrainians to suffer: "As a result of heavy shelling and fighting, an estimated 6 million people have been driven from their homes and are internally displaced and more than 8 million people have crossed into neighboring countries in the region including Poland, Hungary, Moldova and other countries across Europe. Poland has welcomed the greatest number of Ukrainian refugees, hosting nearly 60 percent of all refugees from Ukraine." https://www.unrefugees.org/emergencies/ukraine/
Russia is responsible for all those 14 Million suffering people, internally displaced, or forced to flee the country. Although, many of them in Europe and Poland, where they are regarded as model immigrants, have been instrumental in helping Europe stand strong and stay the course in supporting Ukraine. And further, many of them are now returning, joining the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and will defeat Putin. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:00, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
FALLING INTO A NUCLEAR TRAP IN UKRAINE. RobSGive Peace a chance 05:34, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
The firing off of $150 million in Patriot Missiles is akin to the abandonment of $83 billion in equipment in Afghanistan. They knew the Patriot System was junk and useless to Kyiv, but lied to everyone simply to get contracts for replacement equipment. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:02, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
| “ | For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. | ” |
—Matthew 24:7–8 | ||
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LT(Matthew 26:52) Thursday, 13:04, May 18, 2023 (EDT) - It looks to me more like our nation rising against itself, as the Russian nation also is rising against itself. A house divided cannot stand. RobSGive Peace a chance 13:14, May 18, 2023 (EDT)
Fake News. "A Patriot missile battery damaged by a Russian missile barrage against Kyiv has been fixed, the Pentagon said on 18 May.
“One Patriot system was damaged, but it has now been fixed and is fully back and operational,” said Pentagon deputy press secretary Sabrina Singh, according to CNN.
Early on 16 May, Russia launched a barrage of 18 cruise and ballistic missiles on Kyiv, aided by Iranian-made Shahed-series drones. Ukrainian Air Force reported that the country’s air defenses shot down all the incoming missiles and drones, including six Kh-47M2 Kinzhal “hypersonic” missiles." https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/05/18/patriot-missile-battery-damaged-in-ukraine-is-now-repaired-pentagon-says-cnn/?swcfpc=1
Incidentally, the Radical Islamists in Iran - the thuggish Mullahs against whom many free women are now justly and virtuously protesting - who hate Christendom and hate Israel also have now fully shown their hand by supporting "Post"-Communist Russia against Europe. Learn from the facts of Iranian Shaheed Drones supporting Russian Aggression that Islamism wants Christendom and all Europe to fall. But Islamism will fall and Christendom will prevail. And countries like Commie China and Communist North Korea have also shown their hand by being against America, Europe, and the Free World. An increasing number of countries in Latin America and the Global South are also supporting Ukraine. I keep reiterating, Communism and Islamism are hands down the greatest global threat Christendom and the Free World face today. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 03:00, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Question on grammar: "free women are now justly and virtuously protesting - who hate Christendom and hate Israel..."
- okay, so the "free women hate Christianity and Israel." Things are beginning to make sense. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:37, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
It's the Radical Islamists in Iran, the Mullahs, who hate Christendom and Israel. Israel supports Iran's exiled crown prince, who in turn supports the female protesters and is against the regime. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmzg5Q1J_vg NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:57, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Oh, it's been fixed? We'll see in a couple days when the next barrage hits. Then again, at $5 million a missile, the word is they have enough missiles to last maybe 2 weeks. And the replacements are 3 years on back order. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:13, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Update: Another Massive Missile Attack | Military Summary And Analysis 2023.05.22. Where's the Patriot Missile defense that was either not destroyed or destroyed and fixed? I guess those stupid Russians are too stupid to read Pentagon BS propaganda press releases. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:16, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
- Euromaidan press? My God, you never learn. That news isn't even intended for Western audiences. It's purely meant to avoid panic in the streets of Kyiv. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:15, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- And your Cold War rhetoric is outdated ("free world", yah right, on lockdown with forced vaccinations and a corrupt CIA and FBI rigging elections in the US). RobSGive Peace a chance 08:19, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Next clue that your Pentagon/Euromaidan Press source is full of crap: Biden's sudden reversal to send F-16s. With the loss of the Patriots, panic, desperation, and further escalation sets in. RobSGive Peace a chance 16:58, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Leaving a discussion of sanctions aside, given that Russian oil exports are now at a record level (even after Russia cut production), let's go through a list of American Wunderwaffen that have all failed to make a difference in Ukraine:
- Javelins
- Switchblade drones
- M777 Howitzers
- HIMARS
- Patriot missile
- This list does not include UK, German, French, Polish or Czech wunderwaffen. At what point does a thinking person ask, "we are being lied to" by Western intelligence and media sources? With F-16s, and next Abrams tanks, at what point do we escalate beyond conventional to nuclear? RobSGive Peace a chance 17:22, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
The object of giving F-16's to Ukraine is, once Russia turns them into scrap metal, every nation that uses the F-16 will be pressured to upgrade to the F-35 because of the F-16's proven vulnerability. It's all about the Benjamins for Lockheed Martin. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:47, May 21, 2023 (EDT)
60 Minutes report: SO THIS IS WHY THE PATRIOT MISSILE SUCKS. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:35, May 23, 2023 (EDT)
Christianity Today: though American Christianity shrinks, the Global Church grows
"We’ve watched people we know and love walk away from churches or the Christian faith altogether, with many giving no indication they plan to return.
Nevertheless, we’ve chosen to face these realities not from a doomsday perspective, but from a hopeful one. In our book Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church, we bear witness to a phenomenon impacting the American Church that’s rarely captured by surveys and articles focused on decline: the exponential Christian growth happening in the Global South.
Whereas roughly a century ago 82 percent of the world’s Christians lived in Europe and North America, 70 percent now live in the Global South. Today, Africa is home to more Christians than any other continent. Latin America is not far behind, with Spanish now the most common language spoken by Christians globally." Read more in the link: https://www.christianitytoday.com/better-samaritan/2023/march/as-american-church-shrinks-global-christianity-can-point-wa.html NishantXavierFor Christ the King 03:31, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- I suspect that the type of "Christianity" that is shrinking the most in the USA is liberal Christianity which isn't Christianity (At least not biblical/historical Christianity). Also, new research shows congregations and pastors who hold traditional, orthodox Christian beliefs are the ones most likely to experience numerical growth.[5] Conservative (talk) 07:10, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- And the Global South has lined up with Christian Russia against pagan, LGBT, sodomite America in its unprovoked war against Russia. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:37, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:39, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- That... is an absolutely excellent point. The leaven of the Natomite West has leavened most of the world. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 19:24, May 19, 2023 (EDT)- The leaven of gay marriage as a God-given constitutionally protected human right has corrupted everything America stands for, foreign and domestic. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:37, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- That... is an absolutely excellent point. The leaven of the Natomite West has leavened most of the world. —
Interesting. Good to know, Conservative. God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 07:45, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
Iranian Feminist Masih Alinejad protests the Misogynistic Islamist regime of Iran
This is what I was referring to earlier: "We the women of Iran don’t need Western politicians to just cut their hair, we want them to cut their ties with our murderers. This is what real solidarity looks like.
I told @FRANCE24.
Many teenagers got killed for the crime of protesting the murder of #MahsaAmini." https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1578130312399388704 She said women in Iran and the Middle East should be able to enjoy the same rights and freedoms Western women and women everywhere enjoy. That includes the right not to be forced to wear Burqas or the Hijab NishantXavierFor Christ the King 04:52, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Three words: CIA color revolution. RobSGive Peace a chance 08:35, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
Huge News just in today: in stunning reversal, America and Allies to provide F-16s to Ukraine
"HIROSHIMA, Japan — America and its allies plan to provide F-16s to Ukraine — although the fighter jets may not necessarily come directly from the United States — as part of a long-term effort to strengthen the country's security, a senior Biden administration official said Friday.
The timing for when Ukraine will receive the fighter jets — and which countries will provide them — remains unclear, but the official said the planes would not be used for Ukraine's upcoming counteroffensive against Russia. In the coming months, the U.S. and its allies “will decide when to actually provide jets, how many we will provide, and who will provide them,” the official said. The news comes as President Joe Biden on Friday informed leaders of leading industrialized nations that the U.S. will support efforts to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16s.
“Discussions about improving the Ukrainian air force reflect our long-term commitment to Ukraine’s self-defense," the senior administration official said." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/us-allies-plan-provide-ukrainian-pilots-f-16-fighter-jets-official-say-rcna85270
The Falcons are coming! It's Game Over for the Kremlin, and the Free World wins. Note that Asian Countries like Japan are also supporting Ukraine and clearly perceive the threat Communism poses to Asia also, through Communist China for e.g. Same with South Korea - a rather conservative country - and Taiwan too. This particular battle will likely be over by Feb 2024 (the 2 year anniversary of the War) now imo, but the real War - Communist China's aggressive invasion of Taiwan will probably begin soon after. 2025, according to a US general. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 18:54, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Well duh. Now that the Patriot missiles don't work, they escalate to F-16s. Everyone wants to see how the S-400 and S-500 performs against it - before the US escalates the Taiwan crisis any further. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:15, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Update: CIA's latest spin and historical revisionism: F-117’s 1999 downing was mostly luck. Here’s how. Now they are trying to downplay the significance of the S-300. Perhaps the Pentagon is now thinking of donating the obsolete F-117 Nighthawk stealth fighter to Ukraine so Russia can turn them into scrap metal, as well. RobSGive Peace a chance 12:11, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
- Russians With Attitude (RWA): "Patriots" Not In Control. 19:26, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Russians With Attitude also included some Pelageya (Pelageya is the soul of Russia). RobSGive Peace a chance 02:24, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
LOL. Did you read that in Russian News? Here's what's actually happening: "In just three months we went from:
• "Patriots are too complicated for Ukrainians to operate" to • "Ukrainians are the first in history to shoot down an air-launched ballistic missile" to • "Ukrainians defeated the most complex missile attack in human history." https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1659576803659317249 NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:29, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- The Patriots had to have, at minimum, American trainers with them on the ground. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:10, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- If any of the propaganda BS you just posted had any truth to it, it will be disproven with the next Kinzhal strike. But you never learn. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:12, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- I'd wager that a third of RobSmith's sources ultimately derive from Kremlin statements, another third from Comsymps, and maybe a few independent journalists/investigators. A lot of people nowadays who claim to oppose Ukrofascism reek of being fellow travellers, and are quick to ignore anything wrong Putin does because he's become their false god. This is not to excuse crimes on Ukraine's part, simply a rebuke of Comsymping. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 19:37, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- I don't think Nishant understands what happened. A Patriot cannot catch a hypersonic from behind, but it can get lucky and hit one incoming. So both sides put it to a test: they both sent a barrage of missiles at each other. The Patriot missile battery emptied itself to avoid having all its missiles explode when they realized at least one Russian Kinzhal would get through and cause all the missiles to explode on the ground. Well, five got through, proving the Patriot is vulnerable. And the fact the Pentagon had to admit it, while minimizing the damage with a BS cover story, proves its vulnerability. And that was before escalating to F-16s cause Patriots don't work.
- Now, if you want to re-run this expensive (for both sides) scenario, that can be done. But we already know the outcome, no matter what tweaks each side does. So the US wants to test the Russian version of the Patriot - the S-400 against the F-16. The Chinese want to see that test, as well, before they purchase the S-400 to defend against an American attack when the Taiwan war escalates. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:49, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- And here again, it becomes a question of which side has more missiles. NATO cannot compete in industrial production against Russian, and certainly not ever against the combined industrial capacity of Russia and China to build weapons. RobSGive Peace a chance 19:53, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- "Putin just launched the BIGGEST attack of the war so far | Redacted with Clayton Morris ", May 18, 2023 (two days after supposedly "Ukrainians defeated the most complex missile attack in human history.")
| "Ukraine is an unmitigated disaster, and it will be America's undoing unless we stop this war right now." Those are not my words, those are the words of multiple senior military officials who've just penned a new piece in the New York Times calling for them to end this stupid unmitigated disaster of a war. We'll get to that part of it in a second. But overnight, Vladimir Putin just launched his biggest attack of the war so far. Analysts are saying the amount, the size, the scope was by far the largest attack since the start of this war, according to multiple reports this morning that we've been piecing together from different sources. Overnight and into early daylight hours, Russian Aerospace forces started pounding targets in the southern part of Ukraine, specifically NATO targets. These are NATO targets because who's running this war it's not Ukraine, it's NATO. And so they started hitting these NATO targets near Odessa. These targets are NATO staging grounds that receive cargo from Romania. Most targets are NATO weapons depots, ammunition warehouses, railroads, logistics. Ukrainian energy Ministry admits that over 20 towns right now as of this broadcast and in our cities without power.... |
- Hmmm, where's that Patriot missile defense? RobSGive Peace a chance 22:42, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- So now that we know a barrage of Kinzhals can wipe out a Patriot missile battery, what's your next move now that Cuba has exercised its sovereignty and leased land to Russia? Hmm? Sanctions? Oh yah, they've worked well against Cuba since 1959 and achieved their aim. Where do you suppose the Global South will come down on this when the US starts bullying Cuba? RobSGive Peace a chance 01:34, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- "Ukraine can forge a military alliance with anybody it chooses". Can't wait to see how the "rules based order" handles this one. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:44, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- Besides, with Cuban sanctions, Cuba probably needs the money playing landlord to a nuclear missile base. And what does Russia have anyway to spend its money on, now that Russian oil exports to Europe have reached an all-time high even with sanctions and a Russian oil output cut.
- I though Jimmy Carter was an idiot when he let Iran slip away as an ally and turned them into an enemy, but the Biden crew takes the cake for screwing up American foreign policy and the peace of the world for the rest of this century. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:54, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- I wouldn't connect the F-16s to the Patriot missile. Tanks need air cover. After they decided to send in the Leopards and M-1s back in January, it became hard to avoid sending F-16s as well. Its hard to believe that the Ukrainians could learn to use the Patriot missile so fast. Perhaps they are crewed by Americans. 03:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- It's the suddenness of the flip-flop on F-16s that's the give away, as well as the news being broken from Japan, not the White House or in Washington. They had to rush to Biden and explain the disaster, that the Patriots are useless and they need to implement the next contingency.
- I wouldn't connect the F-16s to the Patriot missile. Tanks need air cover. After they decided to send in the Leopards and M-1s back in January, it became hard to avoid sending F-16s as well. Its hard to believe that the Ukrainians could learn to use the Patriot missile so fast. Perhaps they are crewed by Americans. 03:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- I though Jimmy Carter was an idiot when he let Iran slip away as an ally and turned them into an enemy, but the Biden crew takes the cake for screwing up American foreign policy and the peace of the world for the rest of this century. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:54, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- Now NATO is carrying one Ace up its sleeve - the recent success of the IRIS-T in shooting down 4 Russian aircraft (which also can be used against naval targets, we are told). The story has been hushed up in Western media, and the more time given til its next deployment allows Russia to make the needed adjustments. The comical thing about all this is, when Ukraine/NATO scores a win, its hushed up, but when they suffer a big defeat, they tout it as a victory, as you see above. That's straight out of the Dunkirk information warfare playbook. RobSGive Peace a chance 03:22, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- RT ran this story on Wednesday: "UK to help supply Ukraine with F-16s – Sunak." Legally, the U.S. could veto this transfer. But the implication of the article was that the Dutch and British had made up their minds. PeterKa (talk) 03:31, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
That was the UK and Poland, I think.You have to read between the lines to get the meaning. What it is saying is that Ukrainian pilots have been training on F-16s for some time, and the UK andPolandNederland think they are ready.- In all this stuff, when the final announcement finally comes, it basically means the weapons are already there. RobSGive Peace a chance 03:50, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- As to a veto, yes under contracts and law that's true, but the idea to give Ukraine F-16s from
PolandNederland and the UK was hatched in the Pentagon, to give the US deniability of direct involvement. And the profits from building replacement aircraft come from overseas, not from the taxpayers. That's the whole purpose of this Ukraine exercise. RobSGive Peace a chance 03:53, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- RT ran this story on Wednesday: "UK to help supply Ukraine with F-16s – Sunak." Legally, the U.S. could veto this transfer. But the implication of the article was that the Dutch and British had made up their minds. PeterKa (talk) 03:31, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- Update: This night Russians conduct massive drone attack on Kyiv. So that shoots your theory in the butt that Ukrainian missile defense can protect Kyiv. The drones this night are to probe out where missile defense systems have been relocated; missile attacks to follow in a day or two. RobSGive Peace a chance 03:01, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
A word on the idiocy of sanctions
Iran was heavily sanctioned in 1979, forty-four years ago. So guess what? They built their own military industrial complex cause they couldn't buy weapons abroad (Remember Iran-Contra? it was all about Iran's need for weapons). Fast forward 40 years: the brilliant geniuses of the Carter Administration now created a scenario where NATO faces the combined military industrial complexes of Russia, China, and Iran - after the US & EU shipped all their manufacturing base to China. Give up on you wet dreams of Ukraine ever defeating Russia. Even if Russia were to run out of manpower, China could send reinforcements to Ukraine. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:01, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
And China would rather fight NATO/US in faraway Ukraine than on its doorstep in Taiwan. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:57, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
Here's a definition of "sanctions": anytime you hear the word "sanctions" or "the government is discussing sanctions", it means "kicking the can down the road until such a time as public opinion will support all out war." Sanctions represent a failure of diplomacy. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:09, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
The Voice of Reason, a former tank commander who runs the Military and Foreign Affairs Network, articulated an observation the other day that has been in the back of my mind for months; the Ukraine proxy war is very similar to the Spanish Civil War, which was a proxy conflict and testing ground for advanced weapons between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. The Spanish Civil War was the precursor of World War. Technological development of weapons system (such as the airplane, submarine and automatic small arms) between 1919 and 1936 led to widespread speculation that the outcome of World War I may have been different had the losers had access to these advanced weapon systems. Remember, both the German Empire and Russian Empires were losers in the WWI conflict to Angelo-American and French concerns. So Stalin too, like Hitler had reason to be concerned about preparedness and implementing upgrades to Soviet military and defense posture. RobSGive Peace a chance 23:57, May 21, 2023 (EDT)
- The Battle of the Donetsk Airport beginning May 26, 2014 provides the damning evidence of US/NATO aggression in the Ukraine proxy conflict. Like the Battle of Guernica in the Spanish Civil War, it was the first bombing of civilians by the US and its Kyiv puppets. Russia has no need to attack the Donetsk Airport because of its land access to Donbas. However the United States, needs airbases because of its reliance on airpower. This unprovoked attack on traditional Russian homelands by the United States is the damning evidence of American aggression. RobSGive Peace a chance 00:43, May 22, 2023 (EDT)
Pro-Life Catholic and Anti-Woke Crusader Ron De Santis likely to declare run for President next week
From: "DeSantis Will Reportedly Run For President Next Week—Here's What We Know About His Campaign"
Why complain and grumble about "the LGBTQ" movement and Covid vaccines if you don't want to do something to stop it?
1. Ron De Santis is very strong against unnecessary, untested and harmful Covid vaccines. Quite rightly, given the recent scam with the Pfizer Director. Trump on the other hand called himself "Father of the Vaccine" and didn't even remotely oppose it.
2. Ron De Santis is strongly Pro-Life and signed a 6 week Heartbeat Abortion Ban. Trump criticized him, and De Santis shot back: "DeSantis — in some of his strongest comments to date on the topic — also defended his decision to sign a ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy even though it has been criticized by some Republicans as too strict. The comments set up a potential fault line for DeSantis when he officially jumps into the race for president, which could come as soon as next week. Trump, in an interview he gave to digital news startup The Messenger published on Monday, said “if you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don’t even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.” https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/16/desantis-trump-florida-six-week-abortion-ban-00097154
3. Sodomy? Trump called himself the "“most pro-gay president in American history". De Santis is a Pro-Marriage Governor.
The contrast is stark. For real social conservatives, the choices couldn't possibly be clearer. Why should Ukraine or other innocent nations suffer just because liberals have made some strides in the Culture War? If you want to defeat liberals, elect Real Conservatives.
Some conservatives don't want to really change things in a conservative direction. Rather, they go for larger than life personalities, and then complain America is overridden by LGBTQ silliness, whereas someone like a Prez. De Santis would put a definitive end to it. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:10, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- DeSantis has his own problems, but yes, Trump has become a pathetic Socialist Security–shilling, baby-sacrificing, progressive far-left Comsymp (← we have an article on this topic now!) who should be read out of the party after the 1/6 French Revolution II mess he's responsible for creating. —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 19:20, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
LT, yup. And very interesting article on Comsymp. I particularly liked this part: "An educated Marxist-Leninist such as Putin accepted that there had been more than 100 million victims of communism, an acceptable price to pay to remodel the world. He accepted the purges that Lenin and Stalin used to cement their rule, the forced famines that eliminated enemies of the state, the forced labor camps in Siberia, the tight control of all media. Putin studied the techniques of agitation and propaganda, applying them in his KGB assignment in Dresden in East Germany during the Cold War." Given the state of the world, the next US President will have to be a Conservative *Peace through Strength" Raeganite imo. That was the approach/strategy that won the Cold War after all and temporarily put a halt to the killing of those 100 MN Victims of Communism. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:27, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Unfortunately, I don't think we'll have a Reaganite presidency again. Thanks the Trumpism, the GOP abandoned conservatism for socialistic populism, essentially creating its own version of syncretized "right-wing socialism." And with the world ending, since biblical probation is coming to a quick close with prophecies in rapid fulfillment, the soon-to-come battle will not be "left vs. right," but God vs. Satan. The false "left" and "right" will syncretize into the universal beast system that has one mind. (Rev. 17:13) —
LT(Matthew 26:52) Friday, 19:32, May 19, 2023 (EDT)- "soon-to-come battle will not be "left vs. right," but God vs. Satan."
- HAHAHAHA! When did the God v. Satan battle ever stop? See how propaganda has corrupted your mind? RobSGive Peace a chance 20:30, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
Well, the World's Population just crossed 8 BN. The Christian population is around 2.6 BN, roughly 1/3rd or 33%. There are an estimated 2 BN Souls who have not yet even heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. See this from Joshua project: "The text on page 161 says "The disturbing truth is that there may still be nearly 2 billion individuals who have never had a chance to hear the Gospel." https://joshuaproject.net/resources/articles/has_everyone_heard
Why is that important? Well, because, Christ Himself said the End would not come until the Gospel was preached to all nations: "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." (Mat 24:14).
I would be careful of believing the end is surely just 5 or 10 years away and it's useless to work for a return to Christianity and morality, to Evangelize and do the Lord's Work etc. It's quite possible, given the time it would take for those 2 BN to hear and respond to the Gospel, that things continue for a few more decades until the Lord's Good Time. No man knows the day or hour after all. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:49, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Well, one of the first ways you can do the Lord's work is to stop believing and perpetuating lies. Get off the NATO/LGBT bandwagon. RobSGive Peace a chance 20:33, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Salvation Army hacks websites, calls to fight Zelensky. RobSGive Peace a chance 21:50, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
And I am doing the Lord's work, by fighting the Kremlin's lies and propaganda, and honoring the victims of decades of Communist and Soviet Terror, which number over a 100 Million as I posted, including about 10 MN Ukrainians killed in the Soviet Stalinist Holodomor. Both Catholic and Evangelical Christians, in the Cold War period, like Pope St. John Paul II and Prez. Raegan, regarded fighting Communism and Soviet Terror to be a Christian and Conservative moral duty. I am honoring that memory and legacy and continuing to do that.
Next, these great Christian leaders were also staunchly pro-life. Btw, Putin has had nearly 20 years of unlimited power in Russia, and has not banned abortion. Meanwhile, Roe v Wade has been overturned. Did your "Good Christian Putin" praise that as he should have? Nope. The antidote to liberalism, as I said above, is to elect strong pro-life Catholic and other Christian Conservatives who are Anti-Woke. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 06:34, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- You're not going to convince me with you Bidenesque arguments. Abortion is not banned in the United States, either. And Putin is not a dictator. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:13, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- All the overturning of Roe v. Wade did was make the United States more like federal Russia, where abortion is dependent on local law, and is not the law of the land. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:15, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- Me personally, I'm an oldtime Cold Warrior. I started in politics working on Nixon's 1968 campaign. Trust me, we did not defeat communism using lies.
- Overturning Roe v. Wade did not outlaw abortion (see, basically you are using commie leftwing talking points making that assertion);
- 60 million of 100 million deaths were Chinese, and it has nothing to do with NATO's war against Russia. Since 1991 NATO & the United States have become totalitarian and Sovietized, whereas Russia has become more democratic. There has been a complete reversal of roles since the collapse of the Soviet Union. I know. I lived through it. I lived my whole life fighting communism and fascism, and I continue today fighting the fascists of the WEF and communists of the DNC. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:31, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- You are not "fighting the Kremlin's lies and propaganda". You have never quoted any "Kremlin lies and propaganda". All you have ever posted is NATO propaganda telling you what "Kremlin lies and propaganda" are. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:42, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
- Case in point: Let's look at the use of the word "accepted" in that brilliant propaganda piece from the Heritage Foundation: "Putin accepted that there had been more than 100 million victims of communism". OK. Do you "accept" the fact the Nazis killed 6 million Jews or reject it? Do you "accept" the fact the Founding Fathers of the Constitution considered Blacks 3/5 of a person or reject it?
- My advice: ask God for the gift of spiritual discernment. RobSGive Peace a chance 14:49, May 20, 2023 (EDT)
Jake Dreizen does a major update
[6]. Dreizin is fluent in Russian and Ukrainian. RobSGive Peace a chance 02:18, May 20, 2023 (EDT)