Talk:Goose step
User:Conservative: Put your bigotry in an Essay, not here. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:29, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- No bigotry. Why are you trying to alter history by engaging in historical revisionism? Conservative (talk) 12:31, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Not me. You're the one involved in historical revisionism.
- Goose stepping goes back to Frederick the Great.
- The UK never adopted it cause the UK is a naval power, and never had much of a cavalry. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:55, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
I literally posted valid/true pictures communists engaging in goosestepping and other soldiers doing the same and you are trying to remove them. Why is that not historical revisionism?
Previously, I have you incidences of you trying to censoring negative comments about socialists/communists at Consrvapedia and also making an anti-capitalism remark related to Conservapedia editors as can be seen below.
"IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)"
"Fascism is both socialism and capitalism; and User:Conservative is glad to have Karajou back to defend User:Conservative's brand of "capitalism". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Your blatant attempts at censorship and historical revisionism needs to stop. It's totally ridiculous. Conservative (talk) 13:04, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- That's a distortion of history. Goosestepping predates the Nazi & Soviet eras. Even the Kuomintang adopted the goose step from its Weimar Republic advisors in the 1920s, and the PLA continued the tradition.
- I have been a member of Wikipedia Project Military History of 18 years - the WP Project that makes the Wikipedia experience worthwhile. You're not going to win this debate with you propagandizing hate speech. Put you bigotted views in Essay space. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:04, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- So what if it predates the Nazi and the Soviet areas, the current article clearly states this. Conservative (talk) 13:06, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- So what? So what is everything for what you are trying to make this look like. George Orwell published a piece in 1946, the early Cold War. That's what is called "propaganda", which you boastfully claimed only yesterday you can spot. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:08, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Modern NATO member Poland uses the goosestep. Are they atheistic communist authoritarians? 13:10, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- (ec) So does Slovakia. So does Hungary.
- Your bigotry and lack of fundamental knowledge and research gets very tiring after a while. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:15, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
Now you are trying to remove what George Orwell said about goose stepping? Where does your attempts to erase history end? Conservative (talk) 13:12, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Orwell is your only source. And by your own admission, it is incorrect. Goosestepping pre-dates totalitarian regimes. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:15, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Leave Orwell in. It's a lesson in the naivete and propaganda in the Angelo-American world. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:18, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- The Orwell quote itself is a deliberate distortion of facts and historical revisionism. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:19, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed I certainly welcomed you to put pictures of Polish/Mexican soldiers goose stepping (See: User: Aschlafly's talk page) and/or valid news accounts if you have such pictures or news accounts.
- Personal remark removed Conservative (talk) 13:27, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed I will once again contact the owner of the website to have reality inserted into the website. Conservative (talk) 13:38, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed Conservative (talk) 13:27, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative says in an edit summary: "goose stepping most commonly associated with Nazi Germany. Article needs a picture related to this"
- In your mind. But that only shows how limited and prejudiced your knowledge and judgment is. You apparently understand very little about military history and traditions. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:43, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- If you walked up to 100-200 people in a man of the street survey and asked them what first comes to mind when they think of goose stepping of course it is going to be Nazi Germany which is not surprising. And goose stepping originated in Prussia which was part of the German Empire. Conservative (talk) 14:50, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Your time frame is messed up. By the "German Empire" I presume you are referring to the Second Reich which was founded 1871; goosestepping began under Frederick the Great a hundred years earlier when Berlin was just a waystation between Paris and Moscow. There was no empire. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:17, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Of course. That's what's called "World War II propaganda". Better yet, WWII propaganda in the Angelo-American world, cause most of the world today knows better.
- If you walked up to 100-200 people in a man of the street survey and asked them what first comes to mind when they think of goose stepping of course it is going to be Nazi Germany which is not surprising. And goose stepping originated in Prussia which was part of the German Empire. Conservative (talk) 14:50, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Now that you have admitted goosestepping predates totalitarian times, you still miss the major point to learn here: Czarist Russia adopted Prussian military training and invited in German trainers and advisors to train the Russian military in pre-World War I times cause they admired, respected and feared Prussian military force. This harkens back to a time of better international relations between Russia and Germany.
- Secondly, you totally miss the point that even the revolutionary Nazis, Bolsheviks, and Chicoms respected military traditions, which runs counter to the revolutionary ideal.
- You get an "F" grade in this history lesson. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:06, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
- Reading assignment: Gordon Craig, Politics of the Prussian Army 1640-1945, Publication date 1955. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:24, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
The language of horse culture
In the bible, the horse is the animal of war. The language and idioms of horse culture exists in all languages, and will not be easily replaced by a century or two of modern rail and auto transportation. But it is necessary in the modern world to give context to some of these idioms
The Stechschritt (similar to stretch strut in English) is meant to stretch the muscles and tendons of the leg for horseback riding. Good muscle tone in the leg is necessary for good horseback riding, and not just to give oneself the strength for "a leg up".
Cavalry, or the Knights of old (as in Chess with the ability to jump over common foot soldiers or pawns), have been replaced in modern warfare with pilots. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:43, May 14, 2024 (EDT)
