The advantage of DeepSeek, as I understand it, is that it is just a prototype (meaning it's far from a finished product and allows for many many future innovations) and is much cheaper. And a "high income" country will never be able to compete with the cost of it. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:25, January 29, 2025 (EST)
- The Underground Network Sneaking Nvidia Chips Into China.(7/2/2024).DeepSeek AI App Demonstrates Pro-CCP Bias, Influence. (1/28/2025) Dianne3000 (talk) 00:35, January 29, 2025 (EST)
- These "sewage eaters" as a Senior Admin refers to them, sure did some damage to the "Trump Effect", as he calls it.
- Who would of thunk it? According to dozens of his screeds, it's not possible, let alone imaginable. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:59, January 29, 2025 (EST)
Artificial intelligence
Deepseek vs. ChatGPT
- What Is Deepseek and How Is It Different From ChatGPT? - ChatGPT offers limited customization options but provides a polished, user-friendly experience suitable for a broad audience. DeepSeek responds faster in technical and niche tasks, while ChatGPT provides better accuracy in handling complex and nuanced queries.
- DeepSeek vs ChatGPT - how do they compare? -Brainstorming: ChatGPT responded in seconds with six neatly summarised ideas. DeepSeek, on the other hand, responded with just one idea - "Luna and the Boy Who Chased the Stars". It struck me that while ChatGPT gave me ideas, DeepSeek wrote a full story. It wasn't particularly good.
- DeepSeek vs. ChatGPT: I tried the hot new AI model. It was impressive, but there were some things it wouldn't talk about., Business Insider, 2025. Plenty of caveats. For one, DeepSeek is subject to strict censorship on contentious issues in China. The classic "how many Rs are there in strawberry" question sent the DeepSeek V3 model into a manic spiral, counting and recounting the number of letters in the word before "consulting a dictionary" and concluding there were only two.
- Here's what DeepSeek AI does better than OpenAI's ChatGPT, Mashable (I learned that DeepSeek is significantly less intelligent than US AI models when it comes to processing, analyzing, researching images, and identifying the image and its location. Another area noted for DeepSeek is its major shortcoming versus ChatGPT is doing verbal interactions and conversations. Another area noted for DeepSeek also is less capable of doing creative thinking and discussions or reports of news articles. There may be several other shortcomings that may be revealed as techs test the range of tasks that DeepSeek can do. )
- DeepSeek: Is It A Stolen ChatGPT? - DeepSeek as much as ChatGPT and Claude are bringing the Western world view into China. They are not just exposing Chinese citizens to the Western world view every day, but also teach them in it. Every day. Deep Seek will not change that, but accelerate it. Conservative (talk) 01:27, January 29, 2025 (EST)
- That doesn't tell us much, other than investors in US products don't want to see the value of their stock go down any more.
- We need more information, not just sales pitches. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:41, January 29, 2025 (EST)
Update
US Navy banned from using China's DeepSeek
| The Navy cited “potential security and ethical concerns associated with the model’s origin” as a reason for such a decision.
Donald Trump earlier warned that the ever-increasing popularity of DeepSeek “should be a wake-up call” for America's tech companies that are seemingly losing ground (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/42120) in the competition. |
President Trump's statement seems to directly contradict User:Conservative's racist and Sinophobic screeds that claim China is incapable of innovation. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:53, January 29, 2025 (EST)
Jon Rappoport reports: [1]
| It’s designed in a whole new way. It doesn’t think the way ChatGPT thinks. It reasons “like a human.”
And behold, China is offering it to the world for free! This bolt out of nowhere has geeks everywhere popping corks and drinking bubbly: “THIS is what AI is supposed to be. A public utility, like electricity or water. Not a product owned by a small circle of hideous grotesque American billionaires.” “Thank you, China. Thank you so very much.” “China is an illustration of what happens when a government pursues enlightened social policy for The People.” “My God, THIS is what David Rockefeller was so excited about when he came back from China.” |
- Setting aside that I don't believe Jon Rappoport reports about the technical aspects, I know that millionaires, billionaires and capitalism are a good thing. For example, both Elon Musk and Donald Trump worked super hard for their wealth and their work has employed others. And the per capita GDP (PPP) of the USA on PPP scale is over 300% higher than it is in China.[2]
- And there is a ton more freedom in the USA than in China where Christians are very much persecuted.
- But Jon and you are free to have your pathological love of communist China and hatred of the USA and capitalism. But realize that people are fleeing China and fleeing to the USA. Conservative (talk) 13:47, January 29, 2025 (EST)
- "IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)"
- But Jon and you are free to have your pathological love of communist China and hatred of the USA and capitalism. But realize that people are fleeing China and fleeing to the USA. Conservative (talk) 13:47, January 29, 2025 (EST)
- "It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT)" Conservative (talk) 13:50, January 29, 2025 (EST)