User talk:Aschlafly

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Despite User:Cons incessant trolling and globalist views, Citizen Journalists have defeated the mainstream globalist narrative and saved the planet from Chernobyl 2.0.

(ec) Ok. I apologize, and I will adhere to that policy. I only ask User:Conservative cease his relentless trolling of me with pure nonsense. We have just gone through probably the most difficult week of the Ukraine war, and I must have wasted more than two whole days of that week with his uninformed, unconstructive, redundant, incessant trolling on other talk pages. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:02, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

None of this is good faith editing. He apparently just moments ago forged User:Elijahandskip's signature to his user talk page (without a date and time stamp) and there is no record of User:Elijahandskip ever posting to his talk page. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:16, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, I replaced Elijahskip's post HERE, with a more recent response I made to my User:Conservative/mail page which came from User: NishantXavier. But I am guessing you are not obsessing over any minutiae related to my posts. Conservative (talk) 03:46, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Bad faith editing is bad faith editing. The question is, why was a polite and cordial invitation from a good faith editor 2 and half years ago ever ignored and summarily deleted in the first place? And why is it resurrected now, after the good faith editor was treated rudely and ignored? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:51, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Pardon me, but I don't believe when we passed the "Castle" rule, it gave Admins the right to treat good faith editors rudely and ignore their requests and inquiries. If you wanted to ignore him, that is one thing; to delete his posting completely as if his time and effort is just garbage and beneath you, is another. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:00, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

I am not having any further discussions with RobS due to him: rudely using templates covering my texts in civil discussions; reverting cordial posts in civil discussions; falsely calling me a Nazi; screaming over the phone, etc.

I read an interesting article entitled You’re NOT The Average Of The Five People You Surround Yourself With which essentially echos the American basketball coach John Wooden who said “You show me your friends, and I’ll show you your future.” I also recently read the classic assertiveness training book entitled "Your Perfect Right" which is a fantastic book - especially when it comes to dealing with difficult people.

Needless to say, my days of having unnecessary discussions with RobS are over. And I am not reading his content. Conservative (talk) 04:05, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

"Rudely using templates", huh? From now on, what if I just delete the whole talk page you post to, as you have done for 15 years? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:10, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, above is a prime example of one if his trolling techniques: to spam the discussion with extraneous and irrelevant material. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:12, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, as I am sure you are aware, I have actively attempted to avoid interacting with RobS. And you kindly asking RobS to stop posting to my user talk page should temper his recent obsessive behavior towards me. I suggest that RobS fill his schedule chock-full of meaningful activities rather than obsessively posting to my talk page messages that he knows that I am not interested in. Conservative (talk) 04:18, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

More spam and more bad faith editing. You invited yourself here to Andy's talk page to interrupt my comments to Andy. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:24, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, I have nothing further to say to you. I am going to go back to doing more productive things. I suggest you do the same and move on. Life is too short to engage in pointless obsessions and petty bickering. But by all means, feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 04:32, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

I do not believe, as you told me on the phone, that Andy agrees with you that conservativism means being stubborn and ignorant. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:36, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

More bad faith editing

After being called out for dishonesty and fraud by altering an editor's good faith posting, he again misuses the Deletion log to cover his tracks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:55, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

• 3+ hours and 65 edits on an Attack page. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:12, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

I have been trolled now for 5 hours with specious editing and an attack page, wasting an entire day. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:37, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Essay space used to create incivil attack pages on other editors

Andy, doesn't this violate a basic precept you asked editors not to engage in some time ago? Please intervene. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:28, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, just because someone disagrees with you and defends a post he made about Ukraine (which you posted on your user page) by giving the context and historical context, that does not violate Conservapedia's civility rules in any way.

Civility not equal alway agreeing with RobS or not defending one's position when it is unfairly attacked in a way that does not give adequate context. Conservative (talk) 19:33, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Essay:Nonsensical postings made by a certain Admin (Please add to the list). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:40, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Bottom line: RobS, You keep wanting to bait me (In this case with an out-of-context quote of mine that you put atop your user page without the context of the material I said around it nor the historical context) and then insist that I do not give a rebuttal. Well, I am going to give a rebuttal. And it is very unreasonable of you to not think that I will not give a rebuttal or do not have the right to do so. Conservative (talk) 19:42, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

If Andy doesn't respond, I guess it's open season. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:44, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

Folks, let's stick with the substantive editing to encyclopedic entries. It's far more beneficial to all. We do have a 90/10 Rule against talk. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:21, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

July 7, 2023

Interesting, Jill Lepore on the great Mrs. P. Schlafly [1] (FiringLine, Jul 7, 2023).Telling (talk) 17:53, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for the link!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:55, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

NP. Quote from Lepore: ..I think Schlafly’s just fascinating. She really has been ignored by historians for two reasons. One, academic historians, who tend to be liberal, have really been bad at offering a history of the rise of the modern conservative movement, this just tremendously important political insurgency, you know, since the 1950s, of which, you know, Buckley’s Firing Line was an important element. And then conservative historians just haven’t really paid attention to Schlafly because she was a woman.Telling (talk)

That's a very interesting quote. Thank you. Perhaps there could be a new entry that devoted to this issue.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:28, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

Tnanks Andy. Your opinion on this please?Telling (talk)

It's superb! Very well done. Thank you!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:23, July 10, 2023 (EDT)

Request

Hi Andy, can you please tell Karajou that I'm deeply sorry for my iniquities against him two years ago during the massive intra-Conservapedia dispute and that I would be interested in talking to him again? Thanks. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 15:22, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Don't fall for it Andy. It's just another one of these conspiracies to sow division in Conservapedia and attack active editors. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:04, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, you insisted over and over again 2–3 years ago that if Karajou was defrocked, you would be able to fix Conservapedia. Your promise at this point can be clearly seen as a broken one. All you've done is turn the site into a laughingstock. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 16:33, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

How many blocks and vandal attacks have we had in the past 8-9 months? There used to be a half dozen daily.

I never said Kara should be defrocked; I said he needed to be reined in and counselled on the proper role and duties of an Admin. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:00, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

"i nEvEr" Oh really? How many more instances of liberal denial will you propagate before I pull out a list of receipts proving the liar you are? "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 18:25, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Misuing and misquoting scripture is "taking the Lord's name in vain". I never claimed to be descended from Abraham. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:43, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Does an individual have to incorrectly claim to have Abraham as their father to qualify as a child of Satan? The basic concept is applied, both overtly and covertly, throughout the Bible. The Apostle Paul told Elymas the Sorcerer: "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?" (Acts 13:10) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 21:21, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

Now you're trolling Andy's talk page. This discussion should be moved elsewhere. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:05, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

You're one to talk on the issue of trolling! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 22:14, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

What goes around comes around. Do unto others. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 23:21, July 11, 2023 (EDT)

The importance of diversification and resiliency. The tale of the followers of a tired and dying ideology whose web traffic is dying

Andy, since March of 2023 the website Internet Infidels lost 50% of its traffic.

Western atheism had too many eggs in the Richard Dawkins and secular leftism basket. Dawkins is far less popular (See: Richard Dawkins' loss of influence). And now that Joe Biden is very unpopular and Europe is moving to the political right, that further hurt the atheistic cause and this is only going to get worse due to right-wing populism growing. On top of this, the mainstream media has lost a lot of trust and they used to promote atheism more in the past (See: Atheism and public relations). Also, people with professor values promoted atheism and many colleges are closing.

I predict that the next economic recession is going to REALLY hurt the atheistic cause due to the superior fundraising/resources of Christendom (See: Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising).

Conservapedia needs to expand its content because its atheism traffic could taper off over time due to less and less people having interest in atheism. Look at how much traffic to atheist websites is falling: Internet atheism and Internet atheism web traffic volume.

Christendom is going to go from victory to victory (See: Future of Christianity). Deus Vult!!! Conservative (talk) 09:27, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

You need more editors to do that, and it's not done by chasing away editors. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

I do have one regret about LT. When I wrote about LT "If he wants to be nasty and contentious (see his initial post on this page), then good riddance. Conservative (talk) 15:30, July 13, 2023 (EDT)", that was too harsh. LT is young and is more hot-headed. I know he hates right-wing populism. And to be fair, among other things, right-wing populists are not very good at balancing budgets when countries have a big amount of sovereign debt. Conservative (talk) 10:29, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

In addition, when I titled my essay On behalf of all Christians who are politically right-leaning, I hereby declare victory! Olé! Olé! Olé!, I could have just used merely one "Olé!". Maybe using three olés was too provocative. :) Conservative (talk) 10:35, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

It's not what you think or believe., it's how you interact with others that matters. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:23, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Andy can fix the login problem. But editor retention is important so template pollution through uncivilly covering up people's civil content via a template needs to end. Conservative (talk) 10:41, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Make up your mind if you want editor retention or not. You're sending mixed signals. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:42, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

Robert Louis Stevenson

I am a fan of Robert Louis Stevenson too. When I was a young man I loved the book Treasure Island and the short story The Tell-Tale Heart.

I usually read nonfiction, but I think the next non-fiction works that I read will be Pilgrim's Progress, Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Conservative (talk) 20:40, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

The Tell-Tale Heart was by Edgar Allan Poe. I encourage reading the free, available online Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. It is remarkably conservative and brilliantly written.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:54, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. I just found a free PDF copy of the book at: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Free PDF copy. Conservative (talk) 22:59, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

There are many Christian and conservative phrases in it. I guess that's why it is rarely part of high school reading today!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:43, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

The first sentence of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Free PDF copy: "Mr. Utterson the lawyer was a man of a rugged countenance that was never lighted by a smile; cold, scanty and embarrassed in discourse; backward in sentiment; lean, long, dusty, dreary and yet somehow lovable."

"Rugged countenance"? That sounds like "toxic masculinity". :) Conservative (talk) 23:52, July 22, 2023 (EDT)

That is a great example of manliness in literature. I've added it to several entries. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:01, July 23, 2023 (EDT)Conservapedia:Copyrights

https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Copyrights

Question

I have been meaning to ask you this for a long time, But what happen to the 'Create Account' button, my friend is trying to create himself a new account but their is no way to do so because the option is missing, What happened?

I've been focusing on content. Legitimate new users can email me at aschlafly@aol.com to obtain a new account. A reference or some verification of good faith is preferred. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 16:32, July 23, 2023 (EDT)

Using Essay space to attack other editors is a fundamental violation of CP civility rules

[2] He's free to do it in his own userspace. I thought we settled this matter. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:51, July 26, 2023 (EDT)f

The essay made no mention of you. Expressing views you disagree with or don't like is not a personal attack. You are behaving incivilly and intolerantly. If you want a place on the internet where only views that you agree with and like are expressed, launch a blog or website that you own and have complete control over. Conservative (talk) 16:19, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

That's a lie. The entire Essay then, and now as it remains in your user space, is predicated on a statement I made In April 2022, which you at the time refuted. And now you spent 50,000 bytes and several weeks trying to walk away from the refutation cause you can't simply delete it, as has become your habit when you make stupid remarks. 16:38, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

Undelete the essay dealing with Russian war crimes in Ukraine and show us where it mentions you. Conservative (talk) 16:44, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

{ec) That's what the Scroll Template is for: for when an editor makes a trolling, nonsensical, or off topic remark intended to derail discussion. The Scroll Template is one solution to Admins abusing their power with deletion, deleting whole discussions and other editor's postings when the Admin makes stupid or embarrassing comments. An Admin should first function as a Moderator, resolving problems and conflicts, not stirring up conflict on Talk pages with spam and self-serving off-topic references. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:51, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

You unsurprisingly failed to show I lied - very predictable. I am moving on.

I predict that Andy will totally ignore your spurious complaint.

Feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 16:54, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

Here's your Essay attack on me in your user space. You just lied again. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:04, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

You're trying to waste my time as my former essay on Russia war crimes in Ukraine did not mention you. I am not going to sucked into your dysfunctional behavior. Conservative (talk) 17:24, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

You'ew being deliberately deceptive and disingenuous again, trying to bamboozle Andy this time with more BS. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:52, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

Kingdom

Hebrews 1:8 called. Said "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

I've got missed calls from a bunch of Psalms and others as well, but I figured we should probably cut straight to the Son as man Himself. ConwayIII (talk) 20:16, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

You make a great point, and I'll consider this carefully. Will respond later tonight after studying this in depth. Thank you.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:39, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

The New Living Translation breaks from the pressure to use "kingdom" and instead translates this verse as:

“

But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice. See Biblehub

”

The KJV rendition that you quote above strains to use "kingdom" in overly a repetitive way. Rather, the statement would be far stronger if it emphasized that righteousness is the standard in God's paradise, as in "a scepter of righteousness is the standard of thy paradise."--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:30, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, thrones and sceptres are the things of kings and kingdoms. ConwayII has you in a Bible exegesis full-nelson and I don't see you getting out of it. Conservative (talk) 00:23, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Appreciate the humor and the challenge! But ancient Greece had no "thrones and sceptres," and neither did ancient Greek. Like "kingdom", those terms are also figments of the monarchical England. Thus checkmate. Ha ha hal. A still better rendition:

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Thy presence, O God, is infinite: a commitment to righteousness is the standard of thy paradise.

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--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:20, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Respectfully, no. Hebrews 1:8 is a deliberate riff on Psalm 45:6: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

Cf. Psalm 103:19 (The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.), Psalm 145:1 (I will extol thee, my God, O king; and I will bless thy name for ever and ever.) and the repeated and reinforcing use of majesty in verses 5 and 12.

The trials and tribulations of various earthly kings and kingdoms is a major thread running right through the OT, and Hebrew's contemporary audience would have had zero difficulty thinking of God in those monarchical terms. You might not like it, but that's not really relevant, is it?

As a final note, I urge you to go back to the Greek myths and any reliable history of the actual ancient Greece. You'll find plenty of kings. ConwayIII (talk) 06:17, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Like King Agamemnon, for instance. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:45, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Ancient Greek did not even have a word for "king", which is mostly an Anglophile obsession. All the "king" and "kingdom" language in the English translations of the New Testament is a dilution by the Brits.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:15, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Oedipus Rex, usually translated Oedipus the King. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:29, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

And from Rex we get a whole family of words, like reign, royal, Reich, etc. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:30, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

(Outdent) OK. Let's do this in French, German and Spanish, and then look at the Vulgate Latin and the Septuagint Greek. Psalm 145:1:

• Je t'exalterai, ô mon Dieu, mon roi! Et je bénirai ton nom à toujours et à perpétuité.
• Ich will dich erheben, mein Gott, du König, und deinen Namen loben immer und ewiglich.
• Te exaltaré mi Dios, oh Rey, y bendeciré tu nombre eternamente y para siempre.
• Exaltabo te, Deus meus rex ; et benedicam nomini tuo in sæculum, et in sæculum sæculi.
• Ὑψώσω σε, ὁ θεός μου ὁ βασιλεύς μου, καὶ εὐλογήσω τὸ ὄνομά σου εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα καὶ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος·

Herodotus used the same language 100+ years before the Septuagint was compiled. A very sensible chap called Demaratus asks Xerxes (a king of kings!) if he's really in the mood for some plain speaking and repeatedly addresses him with the honorific Βασιλεῦ. See end of 101 and beginning of 102: English Greek

ConwayIII (talk) 14:48, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

This is terrific information, but your French/German/Spanish translations above are of a verse in Psalms, not the Epistle to the Hebrews. Psalms was not originally written in Greek, and the Old Testament does refer to kings. The ancient Greek does not, as it had different types of government. The less biased Wiktionary explains that the primary meaning of βασιλεύς is "chief, master" and its notes describes it as an authority who could, as in a foreign ruler, coincidentally be a king there (but not in Greece). [3]--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:56, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

A king or kingdom denotes an heredity bloodline for the "continuity of government", a Republic has no such doctrine. This is why the Roman Catholic Church adopted celibacy, so that no heredity bloodline would have a claim on the Papacy. In Islam, Shia Islam traces its origins to the family of Mohammad, whereas Sunni Islam traces its origins to the Prophet and his Companions. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:32, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

What's Wiktionary got to do with this? I've just pointed to you to Herodotus (an ancient Greek historian writing c. 430 BC) using Βασιλεῦ in reference to Xerxes, the Persian king (c. 518 – 465 BC) famed for his invasion of Greece. This is a primary linguistic source and obviously relevant re. translating βασιλείας as "kingdom" in Hebrews 1:8.

The ancient Greeks had these words (and others) for "king" and "kingdom" and your claims to the contrary are simply untrue.

I'd prefer it if you'd have the grace to concede this narrow point so we can get back to the meat of the discussion. Thanks, ConwayIII (talk) 19:20, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Conway, your scholarship is excellent and I'm learning from it. Seriously, I mean it. You're right that the verse in Hebrews is a paraphrase, almost a direct quote, in Greek of the verse in Psalms.

But languages do sometimes lack words for certain terms. It seems natural that Herodotus used the Greek word for authority to refer to Xerxes. He was indeed an authority, a ruler. That doesn't prove that the Greek term meant "king". And jumping from there to translate the corresponding Greek term as "kingdom" is a bridge too far, it seems to me. I don't intend to be disagreeable about this, and most English translations side with you. I attribute that the immense British, pro-monarchical influence over the English translations. I admit that any version today which departed from that tradition is not going to sell very many copies! But with "kingdom" today connoting Mickey Mouse and other silliness, overreliance on that term may be causing folks to drive away from the benefits they could obtain from an undiluted translation.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:00, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

It's an interesting discussion, but I'm going to thumbnail the issue here:

God initially told Moses when he delivered the law that Israel was not to be like other people, and God was to be both their God and king. But God prophesized through Moses that one day the people would rebel and demand a king. When they entered the land, they had Judges, and not a king. Later in Samuel's day the people rebelled and wanted a king, and God told Samuel to grant them their wish. Samuel anointed Saul, and later David. This succession of kings continued until the Babylonian captivity, when the kingdom was destroyed. But the prophecy of a messiah was that he would restore the kingdom. The genealogies in Matthew and Luke attest to the fact that Jesus was heir to the promises made to David.

The Pharisees told Pilot that Jesus was a fraud and he was challenging Ceasar for the title of King of the Jews (they feared reprisals against the people if the Romans interpreted people calling Jesus 'king' as rebellion against Roman occupation, as well as their own loss of power among the people).

IOWs, the prophecies of a messiah were, and are, interpreted as also meaning 'king'. Now remember, God advised against wanting or having a king, but gave them what they wanted anyway. It wasn't the first time. There are many instances in the bible where God offers people a choice, advises on what God says is the right choice, people reject what God says and he grants them what they wanted anyway. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:14, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

"At once I was in the spirit, and there in heaven stood a throne, with one seated on the throne!" (Revelation 4:2 NRSV)

"They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful.” {Revelation 17:14 ESV)

At Conservapedia, we have no king but Jesus! Conservative (talk) 12:21, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

One more note: When Jesus asked, What think ye Christ, whose son is he, David's or God's? And they responded, 'David's'. And Jesus said 'Why then does David in spirit call him Lord? - Jesus is making a direct reference to Psalm 45, which then again is cited in Hebrews chapter 1. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

@Andy: That's certainly gracious (thanks), but it's definitely not conceding the point. Let's try this instead:

1. OT authors properly referred to earthly kings and kingdoms when writing in the original Hebrew or Aramaic.
2. The authors of Psalms 45, 103 & 145 used precise monarchical imagery re. God, again when writing in the original Hebrew or Aramaic.
3. The author of Hebrews chose to replicate that imagery, most notably and precisely at 1:8.
4. Therefore, if the author of Psalm 45 intended to say "kingdom" in verse 6, then the author of Hebrews intended to say "kingdom" at 1:8 whether or not you agree βασιλείας adequately captures that concept.
5. Given your beliefs re. the author of Hebrews, there can be no question re. error in His word choice.
6. In short, He chose βασιλείας as the most accurate Greek rendition of "kingdom" available to Him.

I think you'd like to say that, if He was writing Hebrews today, He would likely choose a different word, such as "paradise", and perhaps even abandon the monarchical imagery entirely, for the reasons you've outlined.

That's a very different argument to the one you've made so far, and one that many (most?) people would find very presumptuous.

It does, however, have the distinct advantage of accurately capturing your sincere beliefs without foundering linguistically or logically. Essentially, it's a WWJD? exercise re. the decline of monarchy and the development of the English language. ConwayIII (talk) 15:57, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Conway, your argument is brilliant and I'm learning from it. Ten years ago I would have been more argumentative in disagreement than today. You are certainly at least mostly right here, and I had never thought of this before. Well done.

I'm not totally convinced as to "kingdom", however, even assuming you're right about "king". The trick here is switching from Hebrew to Greek to English, and also recognizing that the word choice by the author of the Epistle to the Hebrews, which I'm convinced was Jesus, was constrained by words his audience (not Greek linguists) could understand. "Kingdom", it still seems to me, is a British invention that certainly conferred immense benefits on the world, but has lost its effectiveness in language.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:08, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

real things in fiction

I asked Rob but I figured I'd also ask what your opinion on covering real things in fiction here. I added something to the George Washington article as an example. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 13:18, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

I like it! Please do more. We're at the intersection of culture, knowledge and politics, and cultural or fictional references to historical figures is a big part of that. Thank you.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:23, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

What do you mean by "intersection of culture"? This wiki's? Patriotic Gamer (talk) 13:27, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Right I mean that Conservapedia is at the intersection of culture, knowledge and politics.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

An Admin is vandalizing other users Talk pages, again, in violation of the Castle rule, to hide his embarrassing arguments

[4] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:10, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Let's see if the user himself complains. He hasn't yet, as far as I know. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:12, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

We agreed in the past, due to Protestant conflict with Dataclarifier and other Catholics, that debates would happen on debate pages and not user pages. Conservative (talk) 17:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

That does not give you any right to revert other users talk pages and other users' discussions. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:21, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

He did it again. I did not participate in the formal Debate page, yet User:Cons made it appear I had. I made private, confidential postings on a user's talk page, where only the user has the discretion to remove it. This is very disrespectful of users' postings. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:06, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Nowhere in my Conribs (with one exception) is there a record of me participating in the formal Debate, yet now I have to contend with someone who may claim I did. This is extremely unfair and misleading. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

I served notice three years ago, I am not interested in church debates, 'who's better than who', yet my signature was electronically forged to appear I lied and do not stand by my word. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:17, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Is Bushfan template allowed on my userpage?

I added a lot of userboxes to my userpage, and among them was one of "this user supports GWB." Assuming it's a holdover from this wiki's earlier days, as I know that he is loathed by MAGA, I just wanted to ask if you're okay that I decided to add to my user page & that it's not intended to be an insult to Trump supporters.

Userbox refers to how he was my childhood president, there's photo of him with Chick-Fil-A founder, he gave Fred Rogers a presidential award, friends with Michael W. Smith, was openly supportive and empowered Christian music at the time. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 11:52, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

If you want to be identified with the Republican establishment, the Uniparty, the corrupt Biden DOJ, Russiagate scammers, the military industrial complex, globalists, warmongers and supporters of Ukrainian Nazis, sure, go ahead. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:40, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

A shame that others will automatically assume association from a quick glance, but you do have a point there. The crazy thing is that I found a user box for people who support Obama here, so I take it's the risk of one exercising their right to say what or who they support, but to keep in mind of how the average person here will view them or challenge them. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 17:32, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Page deletion

Can you please delete the article 2021-2022 Gmail hackings incident when I created the page I realized I accidentally added copyrighted content thanks :) Editor123 13:38, August 2, 2023