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| − | The [[atheism|atheist]] and [[evolution | + | The [[atheism|atheist]] and [[evolution]]ist [[PZ Myers]] is not only "pro-choice", but he said he is "even willing to say" that he is pro-[[abortion]].<ref name = "evon">http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/11/pz_myers_on_abortion040971.html</ref> |
The website Evolution News and Views wrote: | The website Evolution News and Views wrote: | ||
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'what's at stake is a mere embryo, so it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated, and I don't have any illusions about whether this is deciding the fate of a human life -- it's not. There's no person...' | 'what's at stake is a mere embryo, so it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated, and I don't have any illusions about whether this is deciding the fate of a human life -- it's not. There's no person...' | ||
| − | Myers' ugly assertion -- 'it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated...[t]here's no person -- demonstrates the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] moral vacuum. [[Atheism and morality|New Atheists insist that there is no objective moral law]]; morality is nothing more than an evolved adaptation, or what each of us decides, ad nauseam. Yet if there is no objective moral law that transcends the individual will to power, then power, not justice nor mercy nor even love for one's own child, governs human conduct. Atheist morality boils down to this: '... because we can'. That has been the moral code of atheism in power for a century.<ref | + | Myers' ugly assertion -- 'it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated...[t]here's no person -- demonstrates the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] moral vacuum. [[Atheism and morality|New Atheists insist that there is no objective moral law]]; morality is nothing more than an evolved adaptation, or what each of us decides, ad nauseam. Yet if there is no objective moral law that transcends the individual will to power, then power, not justice nor mercy nor even love for one's own child, governs human conduct. Atheist morality boils down to this: '... because we can'. That has been the moral code of atheism in power for a century.<ref name="evon" />}} |
| − | [[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|250px| The perverse and cruel [[atheism|atheist]] [[Marquis de Sade]] was an early advocate of [[abortion]] in the [[Western World]].<ref>http://jme.bmj.com/content/6/1/7.abstract</ref>]] | + | [[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|250px| The perverse and cruel [[atheism|atheist]] [[Marquis de Sade]] was an early advocate of [[abortion]] in the [[Western World]].<ref name="bmj">http://jme.bmj.com/content/6/1/7.abstract</ref>]] |
| − | In 2011, Myers wrote that when he sees dead baby pictures: "I look at them unflinchingly and see meat."<ref>http://www.examiner.com/christian-apologetics-in-albuquerque/pz-myers-best-reason-for-rejecting-atheism-murdered-babies-are-just-meat</ref> | + | In 2011, Myers wrote that when he sees dead baby pictures: "I look at them unflinchingly and see meat."<ref name ="meat">http://www.examiner.com/christian-apologetics-in-albuquerque/pz-myers-best-reason-for-rejecting-atheism-murdered-babies-are-just-meat</ref> |
[[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] Mariano Grinbank wrote in response to PZ Myers remarks concerning abortion: | [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] Mariano Grinbank wrote in response to PZ Myers remarks concerning abortion: | ||
{{cquote|What a tragic figure, what a deprivation of all that is human and humane, what a sad, sick and depraved [[soul]]: what a by product of atheism. | {{cquote|What a tragic figure, what a deprivation of all that is human and humane, what a sad, sick and depraved [[soul]]: what a by product of atheism. | ||
| − | Beautiful, healthy, innocent and defenseless human babies who were brutally murdered in unimaginably brutal and inhuman, inhumane, and subhuman manners are to be likened to rats, mice, dogs, and misc amputated body parts. In his reductionist eyes it is all merely temporarily animated meat.<ref | + | Beautiful, healthy, innocent and defenseless human babies who were brutally murdered in unimaginably brutal and inhuman, inhumane, and subhuman manners are to be likened to rats, mice, dogs, and misc amputated body parts. In his reductionist eyes it is all merely temporarily animated meat.<ref name="meat" />}} |
| − | PZ Myers's views are not surprising given the [[History of Atheism|history of atheism]] in relation to the abortion issue. The ''Journal of Medical Ethics'' article declared concerning the | + | PZ Myers's views are not surprising given the [[History of Atheism|history of atheism]] in relation to the abortion issue. The ''Journal of Medical Ethics'' article declared concerning the atheist and [[sadism|sadist]] [[Marquis de Sade]]: |
| − | {{cquote|In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his La Philosophic dans le boudoir, in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of [[population control]]. It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.<ref | + | {{cquote|In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his La Philosophic dans le boudoir, in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of [[population control]]. It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.<ref name="bmj" />}} |
| − | + | Population control is based on [[pseudoscience]] and ill founded [[economics|economic]] assumptions.<ref name="evon" /> | |
==See also == | ==See also == | ||
Revision as of 01:48, October 29, 2012
The atheist and evolutionist PZ Myers is not only "pro-choice", but he said he is "even willing to say" that he is pro-abortion.[1]
The website Evolution News and Views wrote:
| “ | Myers again, on abortion:
'what's at stake is a mere embryo, so it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated, and I don't have any illusions about whether this is deciding the fate of a human life -- it's not. There's no person...' Myers' ugly assertion -- 'it's no big loss if it's flushed and incinerated...[t]here's no person -- demonstrates the New Atheist moral vacuum. New Atheists insist that there is no objective moral law; morality is nothing more than an evolved adaptation, or what each of us decides, ad nauseam. Yet if there is no objective moral law that transcends the individual will to power, then power, not justice nor mercy nor even love for one's own child, governs human conduct. Atheist morality boils down to this: '... because we can'. That has been the moral code of atheism in power for a century.[1] |
” |
The perverse and cruel atheist Marquis de Sade was an early advocate of abortion in the Western World.[2]
In 2011, Myers wrote that when he sees dead baby pictures: "I look at them unflinchingly and see meat."[3]
Christian apologist Mariano Grinbank wrote in response to PZ Myers remarks concerning abortion:
| “ | What a tragic figure, what a deprivation of all that is human and humane, what a sad, sick and depraved soul: what a by product of atheism.
Beautiful, healthy, innocent and defenseless human babies who were brutally murdered in unimaginably brutal and inhuman, inhumane, and subhuman manners are to be likened to rats, mice, dogs, and misc amputated body parts. In his reductionist eyes it is all merely temporarily animated meat.[3] |
” |
PZ Myers's views are not surprising given the history of atheism in relation to the abortion issue. The Journal of Medical Ethics article declared concerning the atheist and sadist Marquis de Sade:
| “ | In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his La Philosophic dans le boudoir, in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of population control. It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.[2] | ” |
Population control is based on pseudoscience and ill founded economic assumptions.[1]
See also
- Abortion and atheism
- Atheism and mass murder
- Atheism and morality
- Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian