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'Yats is the guy'

Ukrainian neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok with (left) Victorias Nuland (center), Yarsenyi Yatsenyuk, and (right) Vitali Klitschko (rear).

During the Maidan coup, the notorious "F the EU" conversation between State Dept employees Victoria Nuland and Amb Pyatt when they were deciding on which puppet to make Prime Minister, Nuland said, "Yats is the guy. He's got the governing experience bla bla bla". Well, "Yats", or Arseniy Yatsenyuk apparently now has had an epiphany about Nazism in Ukraine. Is he ambling for a job in a post-Zelensky Ukraine? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:10, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

France looks like Bakhmut

[3][4][5][6] Is this the end result of supplying Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine in a hybrid war? What goes around comes around.

The US and NATO have a 9 year head start in spreading terrorism in Russian and Ukraine. Maybe the Russians are only getting started. And the US "color revolution" playbook is largely stolen from the global communist National Liberation Movement playbook, with modern technology upgrades. The KGB taught the CIA everything it knows.

"Zelensky may be an SOB, but he's our SOB." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:16, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Just as the United States trains terrorists to subvert a society from within, as they did in Ukraine and Libya, attempted in Syria, are now actively doing in Belarus, Russia, Armenia and other former Soviet Republics, are doing in Thailand, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, it's an old trick they learned from the Soviet Communists. The USSR did it in the United States in the 1960s during the Vietnam war - and eventually won the war when they convinced American public opinion to turn against the war and their leaders (you all just witnessed the CIA's amateurish and lame attempts to get the Russian people to turn against Putin and the war with a drone strike on the Kremlin and the Wagner mutiny. It had the opposite effect of strengthening public support for the war against NATO, and seeing NATO as an existential threat to Russia's existence. None of that was censored in Russia's supposed "dictatorship" or media). This is why talk of a "negotiated settlement" in Ukraine is ridiculous, cause the hybrid terrorist attacks will continue in Russia, and eventually reprisal actions will come to America. This hybrid terrorist war will continue for decades - until we get rid of the globalist fascists from the Davos party who run the planet. We need leaders willing to make peace. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:25, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Did a mercenary order a pizza with missile topping?

[7] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:55, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Note: What's interesting about Radio Sputnik operating in Washington, D.C. is, it is an agreement dating back to Richard Nixon where each side allows the operation of an uncensored, government-funded propaganda radio station in other's capital (kinda like the exchange of embassies, almost). I forget the American chapter in Moscow, it's probably Radio Liberty, or maybe Radio Free Europe. Could even be NPR but I doubt it. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 18:58, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Biological Terrorism: China engineered Covid 19 to purposely infect people, reveals Wuhan researcher

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I saw someone say that, because the American Deep State (as opposed to Good Conservative Leaders) is evil (it is), therefore, allegedly, the Communist Party of China, responsible for an ongoing genocide of Uyghur Muslims, is supposedly not evil (it is, too). That's a Non Sequitur.

See: "The Chinese government has reportedly arbitrarily detained more than a million Muslims in reeducation camps since 2017. Most of the people who have been detained are Uyghur, a predominantly Turkic-speaking ethnic group primarily in China’s northwestern region of Xinjiang. Beyond the detentions, Uyghurs in the region have been subjected to intense surveillance, forced labor, and involuntary sterilizations, among other rights abuses. The United States and several other foreign governments have described China’s actions in Xinjiang as genocide, while the UN human rights office said that the violations could constitute crimes against humanity. Chinese officials have said that they have not infringed on Uyghurs’ rights and claimed that they closed the reeducation camps in 2019. However, international journalists and researchers have documented an ongoing system of mass detention throughout the region using satellite images, individual testimonies, and leaked Chinese government documents." https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

On Covid, this just in: one must have a broad international perspective, and not think of the whole world in terms of American domestic politics alone. Just because there are some bad people in the Deep State, and hardly anyone in the know denies there are, this doesn't mean there aren't bad Communist/Dictatorial Regimes in the world, like the Commie CCP is. Neither is it Anti-Chinese people to say so; in fact, we're being the voice of the good and innocent Chinese people who are suffering under the regime when we critique the CCP regime, just as one would be the voice of the voiceless when standing up against abortion etc; remember the millions who died/suffered under Covid and consider fairly whether the below could be true. It's an astonishing claim and worthy of a fair international investigation.

"A researcher from the Wuhan Institute of Virology has made an astonishing claim that coronavirus was purposely engineered by China to infect people. Chao Shao, a researcher, said his colleagues were given four strains of the virus to find out which could spread best."

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/biological-terrorism-china-engineered-covid-19-to-purposely-infect-people-reveals-wuhan-researcher-11687928751255.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:34, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

We do need some discussion on this subject, however scapegoating China and the CCP isn't the way to go. It was collaboration between Fauci and certain American private interests along with the Wuhan lab. I would recommend go over CP's Wuhan lab & Fauci articles, and look for information that builds on the sources there.

There is a concerted effort now to take the heat off the American taxpayer money that funded the Wuhan lab, and point the finger at China as solely responsible. This obvious from the CFR pushing Sinophobia now to justify war with China. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:42, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Both the Commie CCP and the Commie Deep State should fall. One of the reasons I support De Santis is I think he is a No-Nonsense Administrator. If you don't follow the agenda of the elected government, you should be packing your bags. The govt. answers to the people. Whom do Deep State Bureacrats answer to? No one/special interests. It's very bad, and I agree it's a perfectly legitimate concern to be concerned about the Deep State, especially given the amount of power it has, the amount of evil it does, and the amount of good it can frustrate. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:49, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Well now your getting off topic bringing DeSantis name into it.

Here is a thumbnail sketch of the narrative outfits like CFR retrying to coverup:

In 2015, there were a breakthrough in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab published in scientific journals; the response among many scientists was that this research was too dangerous and people should back away from further research. The Obama administration issued an Executive Order banning more research - but there's a catch - it only banned such research in the United States. So Fauci transferred the research to Wuhan. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:55, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Don't think it is off topic. One of the reasons people supported Trump is to destroy the Deep State. He did do some good things, but he couldn't do that. I think De Santis would, or at least would significantly reduce their power.

Most conservatives don't understand that "laissez-faire" anarchism is not acceptable in government. That's not what "limited government" should mean when it comes to dealing with evildoers. If you can't be tough in dealing with bad guys, you don't belong in government.

Here's what Saint Paul taught on that in the Epistle to the Romans: "3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer. 5Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience" (Roman 13:3-5)

You mentioned Gain of Function research, and that's Exhibit A: "DeSantis signs bills banning vaccine mandates, gain of function research" https://www.thecentersquare.com/florida/article_f0320380-f024-11ed-9f74-7f94c974e2ac.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:01, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

And Fauci should have been fired long ago. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:04, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

The focus of this thread is countering the deep state narrative that China is soley responsible for the pandemic. Let's stick to countering that with facts from re[putable source.

Ideological arguments about conservativism or political candidates go on other threads in other articles, for now. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:57, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. The issue is, how to ensure (1) something like Covid (from the development of the virus, to its release and outbreak, to the Deep State coverup, to the unsafe vaccines) never happens again, and (2) how to hold accountable those whose actions led to the loss of millions of lives, and caused many more millions to suffer worldwide. For that, we need something like (1) a Nuremberg II Tribunal, with (2) bad actors internationally, whether in the US like Fauci, or the Commie CCP, or anywhere else, held accountable for their actions, after a thorough investigation of all malpractice. That is in principle. Procedurally, you're only going to get that with strong Conservative Leadership. Commie Stalin said: "The death of a single person is a tragedy. The death of millions, a statistic". That shows how his warped Commie-mind thought. It isn't true and we conservatives shouldn't allow it to be so. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:09, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) okay, very good. You see a larger picture. Right now we need adequate documentation of the crimes that took place. Remember, the globalists and deep staters have much more powerful influence in media, academia, think tanks, and government. Despite being vastly outgunned, the censorship they employ should be viewed as a sign of weakness. They fear the truth and reality getting out to general public. So we need to focus on the knowledgeable sources and help them, get what they know out.

We can begin with people like Sen. Rand Paul and Rep. Jim Jordan who have a pretty clear understanding of the facts of what happened. Journalists like Lee Smith and Glenn Greenwald and a few others also are very good. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. also has a very clear understanding. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:26, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Nikki Haley on Commie China

Nikki Haley, take a bow. She rightly points out how liberal Blinked allowed Commie Thug Xi to scold him and thus America by extension. Again, conservative brothers and sisters, from the fact that the liberal Biden-Blinken duo is kowtowing to and bootlicking Xi, draw the right conclusion that the truly Conservative Approach/Position toward Commie China is Raeganite Peace through Strength, and inexorable/invincible American/European/NATO Strength, as well as fresh modern Alliances in the Indo-Pacific and Global South.

Here is the Video: https://youtu.be/JVz1mgcayAw Absolutely brutal in criticizing the Biden Administration's bad policies making everything worse. She also mentions how important it is to draw in the Arab World as partners and Biden's foolish policies pushing them away. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Watch between 17-19 mins: "I gave the example. To me, the most glaring is, you don't congratulate the Chinese Communist Party for taking over China 70 years ago. We don't congratulate Communism, we condemn it [makes sense considering Communism is responsible for over 65+ Million Deaths in China alone. See: https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/the-legacy-mao-zedong-mass-murder]. That's the Moral Clarity that I'm talking about. We have to know Right from Wrong. You never go and tell someone who is stealing, "Oh you go get them", Oh keep oppressing", you don't tell a Dictator that the way they sit there and hold their hand down on their People is a Good Thing. You congratulate Freedom, you congratulate Democracy, you congratulate when People have the Individual Liberties ... You NEVER congratulate Communism". NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:37, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

The Heritage Foundation was once a very respected conservative think tank during the Reagan years. However now it has a reputation as being overtaken by globalist views - at least on foreign policy and trade matters. It's stuff on election fraud is excellent, unsurpassed by any other DC think tank, IMO. However its perspectives on Russia and China should be suspect, and not viewed as authoritive (unless at some point there's a big shake up in management. But here again, the globalists got the big bucks to buy think tanks like Heritage, and there's not really any big sources of funding for anti-neocon perspectives). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Add To In The News

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Supreme Court strikes down affirmative action. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/u-s-supreme-court-strikes-down-affirmative-action/ar-AA1dcM3C --TheNewRight (talk) 10:15, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Also there needs to be a spelling correction, instead of "mayor" it should read "major". Quidam65 (talk) 11:14, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks.RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:17, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

I used the John Solomon link; msn is probably Yahoo news or some other neo-fascist propaganda organ. We need to begin paying attention to to sources and links used. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:35, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you! Also, Supreme Court sides with Christian graphic designer. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-colorado-graphic-designer-who-refused-to-create-same-sex-wedding-websites/ar-AA1dg4M7 --TheNewRight (talk) 10:22, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

What does John Solomon's Just the News or Daily Caller say about it? MSN, Yahoo, and others have little credibility among conservative readers. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:16, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Biden corruption

With the accession of Romania to NATO, the Biden family became co-owners of Kentucky Fried Chicken franchises in Romania. The multinational corporate conglomerate drove numerous native ethnic Romania mom n pop entrepreneurs, which grew up in Romania since 1991, out of business. This was done under the guise of "capitalism, freedom and democracy" with NATO protecting the multinational corporate conglomerate's financial interests. The same thing is happening in Ukraine. Romanian and Ukrainian entrepreneurs who are victims of this multinational corporate collusion view it as a neo-fascist invasion of their state and loss of sovereignty. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:50, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Khodorkovsky & Pence Want The World To Think Putin Can’t Control The Russian Military

[8] Hmmm, must not be an absolute dictator, I 'spose. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:44, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

But a racist CIA stooge and peacenik like Navalny can stand up to those armed big brutes who were never communists and survived the collapse of the Soviet Union. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:47, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

China/Taiwan - the Coming War. Within community of security experts, no longer if but when. Most likely by 2027. Prepare

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov comment during Q & A at the Leaders of Russia Management Competition, Moscow, March 19, 2022. [1] NYT journalist Tom Friedman joked, "Grandma always said never fight Russia and China at the same time." [2]

We are in the Great Calm before the Storm. But don't be deceived. The Storm's Coming. Prepare. Don't panic, but prepare. Spiritually, and in every other way. Including by educating and spreading awareness about the Great Evils of Communism, including the 65+ MN dead under the CCP in Mao's time.

Tweets: "Translated from Spanish by Google: "On the possibility of a war, @jmhumir assures that, within the community of security experts, the issue is no longer about if the war between China and the US will happen, but when it will happen" https://twitter.com/AmericanoMedia/status/1674873742797750283

and: "When we talk about China 🇨🇳 #PCC there are three dates that we should all keep in mind:

2049 - Anniversary of the PRC and China wants to dominate the world.

2030 - China wants to be the world economic power.

2027 - China wants to annex Taiwan.

The question is not whether there will be a conflict with China, the question is whether we are prepared to stop them."

https://twitter.com/jmhumire/status/1674903598029783047 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:03, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

China doesn't need to annex Taiwan, it's already part of China. Blinken just said so. [9] RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 22:30, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

This war was originally suppose to happen in 2021, but got cancelled cause of the pandemic, I suppose. Then it was pushed back to 2022; last week we were told 2025, Now it's 2027 cause the globalists and military industrial complex got themselves in a bind in Ukraine, and the original plan was to knock out Russia first. They can't carry out their aggression against China without knocking out Russia first, which will never happen cause Russia will nuke the globalists before that ever happens.

This planned US aggression against China looks more and more like scare tactics, like lockdowns, social distancing, and mask wearing - scare tactics for expanded government surveillance and societal control. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:44, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

The globalists and deep state want people to live in fear, whether it's the pandemic, Russia, China, white supremacists, etc etc etc. It is the source of their power, to get people to beg government for protection. We have not been given a spirit of fear, but of love, power, and a sound mind. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:48, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

Red China has been on the verge of attacking Taiwan for a long time. It's a journalism evergreen. There was more tension in 1996, when China was threatening to nuke Taiwan. Japan is planning a major defense buildup, so time is not necessarily on China's side. PeterKa (talk) 05:21, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

Why is it okay for the US to support Taiwan separatists but Russia can't back Donbas separatists? Oh, and don't gimme this 'Ukraine is a democracy' BS. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 05:25, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

The options are to be pro-separatist across the board or anti-separatist across the board? That seems rather limiting. PeterKa (talk) 06:39, July 1, 2023 (EDT)