Talk:Ukrainian collusion

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Here's my perhaps over-simplified view of Ukrainian collusion:

Ukraine, noted for its corruption and longtime desire for relations with the West, regularly pays cash to U.S. lobbyists for connections to Washington (since the Clinton administration and the end of the Cold War, the U.S. is more willingly to pay attention to regimes that pay cash to lobbyists rather than for anti-communist ideological reasons). Manafort was one such lobbyist up to 2014 (as was Greg Craig and Tony Podesta); in 2014 the Obama administration and Joe Biden ousted Manafort and put forth Hunter Biden. But it made no difference to the Ukraine who the money was paid to for influence in Washington, so long as they had high-level connections. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 12:21, 28 April 2019 (EDT)


Interesting to note that the only "fill in the blank" ==See also== on this page (created 5 months ago) is FISA abuse. The FISA abuse reported is expected anytime now to add more. What a coincidence, huh? RobSDe Plorabus Unum 05:33, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

WaPo timeline

Caught WaPa in misinformation; they claim Hunter Biden was appointed May 13, 2014 to Burisma; Contemporaneous sources say April 18,[1][2][3] and Joe Biden visted four days later with a $50 million financial aid package. RobSDe Plorabus Unum 21:27, 27 September 2019 (EDT)

Is it so surprising? The Washington Post is filled with slackers. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 11:18, 15 October 2019 (EDT)
And actually WaPo uses a cut n' paste from Lawfareblog, which this page is beating the pants off both right now. Two nights ago, America's #1 rated cable news station used this timeline (2:20 minutes in).
Where there's smoke, there's fire. I knew about Brennan's visit to the Ukraine 2 days before Hunter's hiring, but I didn't know about Devon Archer's late night meeting at the White House at the same time. RobSDe Plorabus Unum 12:03, 15 October 2019 (EDT)