Talk:Divorce and New Testament theology
This Essay is faulty. God is divorced:
| “ | They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD. | ” |
—Jeremiah 3:1 | ||
| “ | For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. | ” |
—Isaiah 54:5 | ||
- RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 15:25, November 9, 2023 (EST)
Neither is God a narcissist. RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 18:05, November 9, 2023 (EST)
Debunking the God is divorced contention
God is not divorced. See: Did God divorce Israel?
In addition, "In the Hebrew Bible as well as in the New Testament, God describes Himself as the husband of Israel using metaphorical language (Is. 54:5; Jer. 3:14; 31:32)".[1]. Metaphorical language is not the same as God being the actual husband of Israel. The Bible teaches that in marriage the two become one. But sound Christian theology teaches the trinity which is three persons in one Godhead.
Furthermore, even if I were to accept this notion, the church is the metaphorical bride of Christ and there is never going to be a divorce of the Church.
And God bringing back the Jews to Israel is one of the most remarkable prophecies of the Bible so God is not estrangled from his chosen people.
I cite this info from Science Speaks, by Peter W. Stoner CHAPTER 2 PROPHETIC ACCURACY:
Odds of the restoration of the nation of Israel:
"And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation... And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it. And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste" (Lev. 26:31-33 - written 1491 B.C.).
"Thus saith the Lord God; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded. And the desolate land shall be tilled" (Ezek. 36:33-35 - written 587 B.C.).
"These prophecies make seven predictions:
1. The cities of Palestine shall become waste. 2. The sanctuaries shall become desolate. 3. The land shall become desolate. 4. Enemies shall inhabit the land. 5. The Jews shall be scattered. 6. A sword shall go out after the Jews. 7. The Jews shall return to Palestine; the cities shall be rebuilt, and its land shall be tilled.
Let us consider these predictions in detail.
1. This prophecy was made soon after the Lord had led the children of Israel out of Egypt and into the promised land. It did not seem likely that He would again allow the cities to become waste. Estimate, one in ten.
2. The sanctuaries had been kept active all through the wilderness. What is the probability that they shall become desolate with the cities? Estimate, one in two.
3. Visitors to Palestine, before 1900, reported that very little of the land was tilled; the great mass of it was a total desolation. Probability estimate, one in ten.
4. Palestine became the stronghold of the Muslims, the enemies of the Jews; that they occupied the land cannot be doubted. The estimated probability of this condition was given as one in two.
5. Up to the time of the prophecy, the Jews, even in persecution, had always stayed together, whether in Egypt, Palestine or Sinai. The probability that they would be scattered was estimated one in five.
6. The Jews have been persecuted as no other race on the face of the earth. Their persecution by Hitler, in recent years, is perhaps the cruelest persecution recorded in all history. Estimated probability was one in ten.
7. What is the probability that after being so scattered and persecuted, they would again return and reclaim their country? This reclamation has been accomplished in the last few years. We have all marveled at its speed and the military success of the Jews in retaking Palestine. Estimate, one in ten.
Thus for the fulfillment of the whole prophecy we have a probability of 1 in 2 x 105.
Note Leviticus 26:8 "And five of you shall chase one hundred, and one hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword." This prophecy probably was not originally intended to refer to the 1967 six-day war between Israel and the Arabs. However, the prophecy is fulfilled in a very remarkable way by this war. The total population of Egypt, Jordan and Syria is roughly twenty times the population of Israel, the same ratio as the five to one hundred in the prophecy. And perhaps no army in history has been more completely routed than was the Egyptian army in the Sinai Peninsula, when the soldiers fled on foot, in tanks and in all types of conveyances, many of which piled up on top of each other trying to get through the mountain passes in their frantic attempted escape from the forces of Israel."[2]
Furthermore, God continues to protect the nation of Israel:
The Israeli army has beaten armies 10 times their size (See: Why is the ISRAELI ARMY so POWERFUL? - VisualPolitik EN).
There is excellent evidence that God helped Israel during the Six Day War (See: GOD'S HAND IN THE SIX DAY WAR and Did God Help Israel During The Six Day War? and Six Days of Miracles and Fmr Israeli Commander: God Protected us in Battle).
Behold! Further evidence below!
- Against All Odds - Israel Survives Conservative (talk) 08:35, November 11, 2023 (EST)
- Impressive. As Karajou would say, "do the research when you write an article. I’ll have more respect for you if you hit the books and do a detailed article then if you simply put in one or two sentences with a link to a silly website that you insist is a source." RobSGet thee behind me, Satan 09:14, November 11, 2023 (EST)
I am not going to fight you on this issue. It you persist, I will simply get Andy and perhaps others involved. This article is not going to be turned into an essay
RobSmith, this article is not going to be turned into an essay. There is nothing wrong with this article.
I am not going to fight you on this issue. It you persist, I will simply get Andy and perhaps others involved.
You are not going to overrule what the Bible plainly teaches about divorce. Conservative (talk) 17:59, November 9, 2023 (EST)