Talk:CCP virus in Canada

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This heading is out of date and should be changed: See CCP virus page.--Jackin the box (talk) 16:35, January 27, 2022 (EST)

Not going to happen - and the edit in which you removed Theresa Tam's political loyalties (which has nothing to do with race [except according to you] and everything to do with ideology) has been reverted. Northwest (talk) 20:29, January 27, 2022 (EST)

Also, you need to lay off of removing/changing factual information for the sake of pushing a liberal pro-"vaccine" POV. Northwest (talk) 20:33, January 27, 2022 (EST)

Will avoid such controversial topics in future. However, don't most doctors support vaccines and aren't the majority of them probably Republicans? Likewise don't those opposed to vaccines still trust, and seek help from their doctors and hospitals? As you will know, there has been opposition to many vaccines in the past, including those for polio, smallpox, and many common childhood disease ("History of Anti-vaccination Movements"). --Jackin the box (talk) 10:20, January 28, 2022 (EST)

You didn't do so when you added that pro-CCP flu "vaccine" propaganda website (which has since been removed) to the external links section. Northwest (talk) 15:17, January 29, 2022 (EST)

Illegitimate edit

Again, Northwest I don't understand what is illegitimate about my recent edit. Are you claiming that the idea covid can be lethal is liberal hogwash? I think that even President Trump didn't in the end believe this. If you have a problem with the numbers quoted, you can revise them. See figures given by Fox News. --Jackin the box (talk) 12:10, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

The CCP flu has not been lethal to most (save for those with weakened immune systems), but it is the CCP flu "vaccines" which have been far more lethal, as evidenced by the reports of recent deaths of younger people which the liberal media has been attributing to "unexplained causes" (i.e. "unexplained causes" being code for caused by adverse side effects from the "vaccines", which the liberal media refuses to report to cover for Big Pharma, which makes the liberal media accessories and willing co-conspirators) - so yes, it is liberal hogwash (as you put it), yet you continue believing and spouting what the liberal media tells you. Northwest (talk) 16:59, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

Note that I added a citation from Fox News. I haven't heard anything at all about any deaths from the vaccines where I live. Everyone I know has been vaccinated, and I've only heard of one or two minor reactions – flu like symptoms.

I'm a little puzzled by your views on medicine, Northwest. All evidence points to people, at least in first world countries, living considerably longer because of advances in medicine. This includes vaccines that have eradicated many deadly diseases. If you don't trust mRNA vaccines there are, as you must be aware, alternatives. Certainly pharmaceutical companies have made serious mistakes but without them our lives would be more painful and much shorter. It is sad that some people have lost trust in the medical profession in such difficult times – or exploit, politically the fear and panic caused by this pandemic. Perhaps you might read the Bible and stay away from conspiratorial theories. --Jackin the box (talk) 10:16, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Wait until the "vaccines" start to kick in on those people you say you know. From the moment you first started editing this and related articles about the "vaccines" by putting in propaganda edits with liberal media sources (with their usual talking points) to impose a liberal POV on the articles, you've been acting as a prevaricator and a shill/apologist for the CCP flu "vaccines", knowing full well what they've been doing to the people who got injected with them and pretending otherwise, then you play the "victim" when you get called out on what you've been doing and saying.

And another thing - when you accuse those opposed to the CCP flu "vaccines" for well-documented reasons of being "conspiracy theorists" as you did, you not only make accusations based on emotion and feelings rather than facts or logic (as liberals typically do), you ignore that liberals themselves engage in conspiracy theories regarding the environment, the Jewish people and Donald Trump, among other things. As the old saying goes, he who lives in a glass house... Northwest (talk) 17:26, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

But what about the more traditional covid vaccines? Do you also reject them, and yet, presumably, accept those for polio, small pox, measles, diptheria, and tetanus shots, and so o . Your position is contradictory, as far as I can see. Presumably if you should get cancer you would seek the latest scientific advances in medicine? Do you remember what he Bible has to say about contagious diseases? And have you studied the long history of pandemics, as well as that of the use of vaccines? I trust professional people before any type of politician!

You're only using other (non-CCP flu) vaccines to cover for your insistent push of the CCP flu "vaccine" agenda (and the only ones that there are are the mRNA gene therapy drugs - which are not legitimate vaccines - being pushed by Big Pharma under the guise of "curing" the CCP flu, but in reality are being used [under the financing of Bill Gates] for population control). Not only do the "vaccines" not work in treating what is now amounting to be nothing more than a cold, they are messing with the natural immune systems of those injected with the "vaccines" and leaving them susceptible to disease and they are wreaking havoc on their health in other ways (and as has been well-documented here and on other non-liberal news websites, people have even died from complications caused by the "vaccines"). All you're doing here is proving the point I made in my previous post above regarding you pushing a pro-CCP flu "vaccine" agenda (including making excuses and justifications, as well as unjustified edits removing sourced non-liberal biased info, to cover for the ineffectiveness of the "vaccines" and the very real harm they have been doing) and it needs to stop. Northwest (talk) 18:26, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

"traditional covid vaccines"? what tradition? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:27, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Traditional =non-mRNA, or viral-vector vaccine, RobS. Further research reveals that the Johnson & Johnson viral-vector vaccine isn't recommended in the US, with a few exceptions. --Jackin the box (talk) 15:56, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

I was not trying, Northwest, to push any liberal agenda (or trolling) but providing information for anyone who would like to protect themselves but had doubts about mRNA vaccines. I do not understand your position on the covid pandemic Northwest, because President Trump started the vaccination program, as well as other earlier health initiatives. And don't blame Fauci, who was only Trump's advisor and a Republican appointee. --Jackin the box (talk) 15:56, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

"I was not trying, Northwest, to push any liberal agenda" - except you were pushing a liberal pro-CCP flu "vaccine" agenda, and denying it after getting called out on it (especially when you used non-credible liberal media sources as your references) does not make what you say about it true. You claim "not to understand" how I feel about the mRNA gene therapy drugs being falsely pushed as "vaccines" for the CCP flu (an attitude shared with countless others) because you refuse to understand, and Fauci showed his true colors after he willingly became Joe Biden's health czar and an eager shill for the "vaccines" (just as you've shown yourself to be) and all those deaths and injuries from those "vaccines" (including even the J&J "vaccine") happened under his watch, so yes, Fauci does share in the blame (as do Bill Gates, Biden, Justin Trudeau and various leaders at the national, state/provincial and local levels and their unelected health bureaucrats), so your arguments hold no water whatsoever. Northwest (talk) 17:39, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Ask some medical people about covid not some paranoid blogger. --Jackin the box (talk) 18:06, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

And how, exactly, is knowing the truth about the CCP flu "vaccines" (with documentation to back it up) being "paranoid"? All you're doing is further proving my point about you and your shilling for the "vaccines". Northwest (talk) 20:52, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

This debate is unpleasant and getting us no where. However, I refute your claim that my comments are based on a liberal ideology. No, they are based on my personal experience of life, and of the medical profession, as both a father and as a patient. I have had several major surgeries. I also personally learnt as a school kid the importance of isolation in containing a highly contagious disease. Furthermore I have listened to very many interviews with front line doctors, nurses and scientist, over the last two years. This doesn't mean that I cannot at times be sceptical and realize that we live in an imperfect world. I certainly would be dead, or a partial blind cripple without the achievements of modern medicine and science. Northwest, I do realize that there is the occasional doctor or nurse who may agree with you. --Jackin the box (talk) 12:24, April 23, 2022 (EDT)

You "refute" that your comments are based on liberal ideology because you say they're "refuted"? No dice. You're still in denial about the "vaccines" and still trying to make excuses (including making claims about interviews with quacks and pseudo-scientists who sold out to Big Pharma and Bill Gates) to justify your push of the "vaccines". I'm not buying it and neither are more and more people who are realizing the truth. Northwest (talk) 17:12, April 23, 2022 (EDT)