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The Hindu Newspaper: Rahul Gandhi continues on an upward swing

Rahul Gandhi's prospects of becoming India's next (2024) PM have never looked better.

"In the last one month, former Congress president Rahul Gandhi’s YouTube channel has posted six videos, including a 12-minute grim video capturing his two-day visit to strife-ridden Manipur in July. Two of these videos have crossed three millions views. Mr. Gandhi, who has often called out the mainstream news channels biased, has been relying more on social media for a direct connect with people.

Mr. Gandhi joined YouTube on August 10, 2017, and eight days later came the first video of his interaction with Doon School students. The six-minute video gathered only 24,000 views. The channel has had modest viewership recording negligible growth for the first five years till September 2022 when Mr. Gandhi led the party’s 4,000-km march from Kanyakumari to Kashmir branded as Bharat Jodo Yatra."

From: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/rahul-gandhis-youtube-channel-on-an-upward-swing/article67165121.ece NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:44, August 13, 2023 (EDT)

I saw part of his speech before Modi's no confidence motion, a little bit of Modi's afterward. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:59, August 13, 2023 (EDT)

Weiss Special Counsel Appointment Did Not Violate DOJ Regulations

Garland appointed Weiss as a Special Counsel using 28 U.S.C. §§ 509, 510, and 515 as the basis for the appointment. [1] Barr used the same regulations appointing U.S. Attorney John Durham as Special Counsel to investigate whether anyone violated federal law in connection with the investigations directed at 2016 presidential campaign activities. [2] Should the item on the Main Page complaining about Weiss be deleted or edited? --LSimons (talk) 00:13, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Bill Barr was incompetent and disloyal, and panders to the liberal media. I would consider anything he did to have any precedential value.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:31, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

How, exactly, was Barr disloyal? Remember, Trump is a stable genius and only hired the best people. [3] I’ve noticed all CP admins are Trump sycophants, as a result, everyone running this encyclopedia is required to believe Barr was a competent Attorney General. No excuses.--LSimons (talk) 10:00, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

This is a regulation issued by the attorney general, so the AG can interpret it. As a practical matter, I don't think that we'll see Garland held in contempt. But what happened to, "No one is above the law"? The special counsel regulation says: "The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government." PeterKa (talk) 06:38, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Mr. Ka: Why are you quoting the relevant US Code concerning the appointment of Special Counsels? I included these references in my first post concerning the appointment of Weiss. PLEASE read 28 U.S.C. §§ 509, 510, and 515. I’m begging you. CP admins seem to be very inconsistent when it comes to the appointment of Special Counsels. John Durham was a DOJ employee when he was appointed a Special Counsel yet the CP article on him does not contain any griping about how the Trump administration flouted the law. Will this oversight be remedied?--LSimons (talk) 10:00, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

I am quoting from CFR 600, the special counsel regulation. And no, you didn't include this reference in the OP. I don't think there is any question that Garland has violated it. There is no practical way to require an A-G to follow a DOJ regulation. He makes the regulations, so what would be the point of making him go through meaningless hoops? The hypocrisy is that if you make the same argument with respect to Trump, the rejoinder is, "No one is above law." PeterKa (talk) 00:29, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

There's an obvious bias here, which was not so obvious in the Durham probe at the outset. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:14, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Thirty-one Senate Republicans demanded Special Counsel status for Weiss. [4] Now that their demands have been met, Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn is actually complaining about what she demanded. She's using words like 'collaborator'.[5] Real classy. --LSimons (talk) 14:38, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

That was eleven months ago (during the last Congress, in fact); could Hunter then still be prosecuted on the tax charges? or was that before the statute of limitations ran out? If that's the case, Weiss and Garland indeed are collaborators. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:46, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Ah... Not the case, the IRS has ten years to chase someone for not filing a tax return. [6] Are you going to admit you're wrong about the collaboration claim? Who am I kidding? Of course you won't! As for the Main Page item? I live in the real world, it'll stay there for all eternity. --LSimons (talk) 18:35, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Failure to file, yes; tax fraud and tax evasion, no. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:46, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Since there is not a statute of limitations for tax fraud, what are you trying to say? It's like you simply do not care about accuracy in reporting. Is this what the 'Best of the Public' has become? --LSimons (talk) 19:36, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

Prof. Jonathan Turley: [7] "I was not nearly as delighted as I would’ve been two years ago when many of us were calling for this appointment. They waited for the appointment of a special counsel after the statute of limitations has run on critical crimes, like the tax violations in 2014/2015." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:46, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

The tax violations can get extremely complicated, since the money was split up several ways, which leads to conspiracy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:52, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

IOWs, the IRS can say, "We have proof of unreported income paid into your bank account of $10 million". Hunter's only defense is "Yes, but I only received $5 million of that." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:55, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

So what you're trying to tell me is the Trump administration dropped the ball when it came to Hunter Biden's alleged violations of tax law during 2014/2015. Got it. Your hypotheticals need a little work, actual evidence would be nice. Can't convict a person with hunches. --LSimons (talk) 21:36, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

The problem is much bigger than Hunter Biden. The problem is DOJ corruption. The problem is bigger than DOJ corruption - the DOJ lied to the FISA court, and neither the Judicial Branch nor Legislative Branch did anything. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:00, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Governor DeSantis interview with CNBC’s Brian Sullivan

Brilliant as usual. Comments in the link: https://youtu.be/HCgYIS5f8-M

"1.We need a monetarist leader in DC! 👏🏻 2. You have earned my Vote, President DeSantis! ❤ 3. DeSantis 2024!🇺🇸❤️ 4. Meanwhile DeSantis acts like an actual candidate." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:55, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

You should read Sundance's latest, just give yourself some balance and perspective on how the American political system works. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:50, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Update: Ain’t That a Peach, Ron DeSantis Holds Private Meeting with Brian Kemp in Georgia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:52, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Now, some of this may be confusing if you are not a regular follower; the basic idea is - DeSantis backers don't care if DeSantis wins or loses the 2024 general election; the purpose of his candidacy is to prevent Trump from being the nominee. It's a GOP internecine struggle. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:02, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

I don't think that's true even for other supporters of Governor De Santis becoming President De Santis, but it certainly isn't true for me. I support future President Ron De Santis because (1) he's the Strongest Pro-Life and Anti-Woke Candidate in the Race and (2) There's arguably a Christian moral obligation to support the Strongest Pro-Life and Anti-Woke Candidate, especially if there's a good chance we can win the Culture War for good in 4 or 8 years of a De Santis Presidency. Conservatives should rally and unite around a De Santis Presidency soon! NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:33, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

When I say "DeSantis" backers", I mean it in the same context Sundance's article uses it, his financial backers. They don't care about you, the voter. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:31, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

De Santis Economic Plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1yzEFYF4r0

Comment: "Americans have forgotten what a real president sounds like. For far too long the public has come to believe that we need an entertainer to amuse us rather than to stand up for what's right and see all goals to completion. Ron DeSantis/2024" NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:38, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Infographics Show Video: "How War in Ukraine Proves US Military Would DOMINATE Russian Military"

"The war in Ukraine has proven one major thing to be true; the Russian military is weaker than everyone believed. Check out today's new epic video that breaks down why the Russian military is having a difficult time with Ukraine and would be entirely dominated by the US military in a head-to-head conflict."

https://youtu.be/XDxm9i1XaKA NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:31, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Kid, lay off the drugs. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:27, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

See also US MILITARY CAPABILITY - CIA analyst LARRY JOHNSON (57 sec). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:46, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

How the DC propaganda media works

This headline from Roll Call, Once a conservative lawmaker, Mark Meadows now indicted, is not addressed to the general public. It specifically is addressed to conservative lawmakers to think twice about supporting Trump. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:50, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Jordan Schachtel

The Uniparty vs The People: America's New Political Landscape. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:21, August 11, 2023 (EDT)

Will he or won't he? Trump "tempted" to attend the First GOP Presidential Debate

He should. "Former President Donald Trump has not decided whether or not he will attend the first Republican presidential debate. NBC News Correspondent Garrett Haake reports the latest from Trump’s campaign."

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-is-tempted-to-attend-the-first-gop-presidential-debate-190806085695 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:31, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, so now we're depending on NBC News for reporting on Trump. Have they fired Ken Delanian or any of the other CIA trolls on the payroll yet? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:47, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Nope, not depending on them, and don't know the answer to your question. The issue here for Conservatives is whether Trump will show up or not. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:00, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

The issue for conservatives is how much of anything they can believe coming from NBC News. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:20, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

NBC News does not provide information or news - they sell a product - in the same way Anheuser-Busch sells Bud Lite, Mattel Toys the Transgender Barbie, or Disney sells pedophilia. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:22, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Do you think Trump will show up for the Debate or not? NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:39, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

If his poll numbers rise after the latest indictments, probably not; it they remain flat or suffer, then yah he'll show up. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:13, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Fair Enough. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:52, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Trump confirms his intellectually lazy plan to skip the Debate

Well, there you go: "Former President Donald Trump on Friday announced he would skip Wednesday’s first Republican presidential debate in favor of a one-on-one interview with a friendly right-wing commentator – the second time in as many days that he backed out of an event that spelled trouble for his multiple and overlapping criminal defense strategies."

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2023-08-18/trump-backtracks-on-debate-blockbuster-press-conference NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:54, August 20, 2023 (EDT)

If Trump was confident he could handle and even parry attacks on his record, he would have showed up and answered questions. De Santis will. Trump and De Santis are the only serious contenders in this thing, and with Trump awoling, De Santis has an opening. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:56, August 20, 2023 (EDT)

The RNC has allowed a proxy, Byron Donalds, to sit in, last I heard.

And the ratings review of Tucker's simultaneous interview with Trump measured against FOX ratings wil tell the tale (not just of Trump, but the future of cable TV "news" vs. social media. This will affect advertising rates for years to come). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:30, August 20, 2023 (EDT)

"What’s Next: A big debate … without Donald Trump. Mr. DeSantis faces the biggest test of his campaign on Wednesday: the first Republican presidential primary debate of the 2024 race, in Milwaukee.

Mr. Trump appears to be skipping the debate, handing Mr. DeSantis an opportunity to take the spotlight. From: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/20/us/politics/desantis-stump-speech.html

Governor De Santis has a Great Opportunity to control the narrative and focus on his record, his policies and the issues in the Debate. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:22, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

NYT: "handing Mr. DeSantis an opportunity to take the spotlight". Lol.

C'mon, I had hoped to use this page to conduct a seminar on how to spot propaganda, not spread more of it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:33, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Now why would NYT say that since Ramaswamy has been burying DeSantis? Doesn't the NYT read its own news? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:35, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

The article continues: "But the former president’s absence also means Mr. DeSantis, as the stand-in front-runner, will most likely come under withering fire from rival candidates. How he handles those attacks could define his image in the eyes of many voters tuning into the primary race for the first time." so it's hardly favorable or friendly to De Santis. It's just reporting on the State of the Race as it sees it. It was Trump's Choice not to show up. That creates both Opportunities and Threats for Governor De Santis, who'll be Centre Stage. at the Debate now since he's the leading contender among Actual Debaters. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:46, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

"the stand-in front-runner" at 5%, but Ramaswamy with 13% can kiss off cause he's Indian. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:44, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

"DeSantis faces the biggest test of his campaign on Wednesday"; DeSantis is looking more and more like Kamala. She had all big money endorsements and personnel of the DNC establishment, including Marc Elias, Christopher Steele's paymaster, as General Counsel. She dropped out in December before the January primaries started. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:05, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

For someone who claims near-personal-infallibility in being able to filter through the MSM propaganda, Rob, you could do a better job at it! The Liberal Media is now pushing the Narrative that Ron De Santis cannot win. That's obvious. Very obvious. Meanwhile, here are facts.

"The NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released early Monday found that 42 percent of likely Republican caucus attendees in Iowa listed Trump as their first choice, giving the former president a 23-point lead over DeSantis, who was picked by 19 percent ...

Republican Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) came in third place with 9 percent support in the new survey, followed by former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and former Vice President Mike Pence, who each received 6 percent. Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie received 5 percent support, conservative entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy received 4 percent, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum received 2 percent and former Rep. Will Hurd received 1 percent. No other candidate received more than 1 percent support."

So first point (1) Trump is the Clear Front-Runner at 42 % and De Santis is the Clear 2nd Front-Runner after Trump around 20%. Ramaswamy whom you mentioned meanwhile is at 4%, behind Sen. Tim Scott, Nikki Haley and Christie though above the rest like Doug Burgum and Will Hurd.

Next, (2) De Santis is still being actively considered by exactly 22% of other GOP Voters, which means he could break even with Trump.

From: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4162034-trump-holds-23-point-lead-over-desantis-among-iowa-republican-caucusgoers-survey/

"Twenty percent of likely GOP caucus goers listed DeSantis as their second choice, with an additional 22 percent saying they were still actively considering the Florida governor." This would happen gradually as the field winnows and other candidates drop out. De Santis is not going anywhere. There's a very good chance he'll continue to be 20%+ while multiple candidates remain then move to 30-40% after that. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:06, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

"NBC News poll". Lol.

Iowa, where all the money is being spent. Nationally Trump is at 60% and DeSantis 3rd at 5%. And the debate is not in Iowa. IOWs, the debate is about national issues, not Iowa farm issues. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:11, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

You yourself just said Trump is the clear frontrunner with 42% in Iowa; no, I would disagree. Trump is the "clear frontrunner" nationally with 60%, but in Iowa, if Trump were to step in doggie doo-doo and lose 1%, and all 22% "thinking" about DeSantis switched, DeSantis would win. In theory Trump is "catchable" in Iowa, but nationally he's the clear choice. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:20, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Lol. There is no National Primary. The First Primary is the Iowa Primary and there Evangelical Christians are Dominant. Pro-Life, Anti-Woke Governor Ron De Santis is clearly the Conservative Christian Candidate of Choice.

Next, it's even better than I thought. Note the wording carefully: "Twenty percent of likely GOP caucus goers listed DeSantis as their second choice, with an additional 22 percent saying they were still actively considering the Florida governor."

So, (1) 19% support De Santis as first choice (2) 20% listed De Santis as second choice (3) AN ADDITIONAL 22 % say they are still actively considering the Florida governor. Can we put it all together and tally it? That means De Santis could win 19+20+22= a whopping 61%!!!

That's Amazing! And that's the Reality of Conservative Governor Ron De Santis' Amazing Popularity with the Base the Press is hiding. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:30, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

No, you can't. You can't make their 2nd choice their first choice. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:33, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

IOWs, the 22% are the undecideds. The 20% are committed. To make a leap in logic like you propose you need an entirely new alleged "scientific" poll. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:35, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Here's a simple mathematical and scientific formula you can use as a rule of thumb: NBC + NYT = BS. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:39, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Debate Reviews: De Santis, Haley, Pence did well. Christie lost an exchange to Ramaswamy and Ramaswamy lost one to Haley

So, I watched the debate and been reading some reviews. Lots of people mentioned (1) Haley's exchange with Ramaswamy on Foreign Policy, and most acknowledge she won that. Likewise, (2) Ramaswamy won his on Trump vs Christie. (3) Pence criticized R on multiple issues (3) De Santis held his own and stood above the fray and talked about his Conservative Record and his Winsome Policies and Successful Re-Election.

Good Debate: I would say De Santis, Haley and Pence did the best. Ramaswamy, Christie and Scott next. The other two barely showed up.

The NYT below quotes 2 Conservative Debate Reviewers:

"Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review, said during the debate that he expected Mr. DeSantis to “deal with constant incoming” attacks. By the end, Mr. Lowry said that Mr. DeSantis had “helped himself” by sticking to his message — and took “no incoming fire.”

Other observers noted Mr. DeSantis’s ability to stay in comfortable territory, trumpeting his conservative track record in Florida as proof that he could steer the Republican Party to success.

Mary Katharine Ham, a journalist and conservative commentator, called Mr. DeSantis’s strategy “effective.”

“Gimme a topic. Yeah, I did that thing. Let me tell you what I did. It happened in Florida. Results,” she said, summarizing his approach."

From: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/24/us/politics/who-won-debate-republican.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:01, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here's an excerpt: "You have no Foreign Policy Experience and it shows!" The ChatGPT line was another Zinger! https://youtu.be/5ht3qDRIgHw NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:06, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Donald Trump's counter-programming to the GOP debate draws over 74 million of views on X (formerly known as Twitter).

"An impressive 50 million+ viewers (Expected) turned their attention to Fox News to watch the debate, breaking previous records and making it the highest-rated Republican presidential primary debate to date."[8]

Trump knows how to draw a crowd. He was in the television industry and is a fairly good marketer/salesman. Conservative (talk) 09:20, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. We needed that 50 million link for MPR. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:38, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

50 MN+. Amazing Number. I predict De Santis will have around 100 MN people voting for him by the time all this is over. In the Debate, some things were clear: (1) Among Trump contenders, only De Santis, Haley and Pence are Top Tier Contenders (2) Christie and Ramaswamy Tier II or III. The others non entities who barely showed up. When it comes to 4 last candidates, it'll be Trump and those 3. When to 2, most likely Trump and De Santis.

And after that- De Santis still has High Favorables and many consider him their Second Choice, as that Poll I mentioned showed- its Anyone's Game. I think De Santis will do very well in head to head against Trump, not to mention against Biden. He was killing (metaphorically) Biden on multiple issues.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:12, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

All I can say is, I watched it for two minutes and liked Martha McCallum's outfit. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:47, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

"The Best Argument against Democracy is a 5 minute Conversation with the Average Voter" ~ Winston Churchill.

Fox: Majority of Viewers say Gov De Santis won the Debate

Yup, told you so. Here it is: "poll taken after the first GOP presidential primary debate on Wednesday showed that a plurality of Republican voters felt that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis won the night.

According to a Washington Post poll, conducted alongside FiveThirtyEight and Ipsos, 29% of Republican voters polled said that DeSantis performed the best out of the eight candidates on the stage in Milwaukee.

The poll was conducted from Aug. 23-24 and polled 775 potential Republican primary voters who watched the debate."

Future President De Santis was Truly Presidential through and through, I gotta say. A Winsome smile, Good Arguments against Biden and the Radical Left, criticizing Fauci and the Fed, and fighting for the Common Good. Good to see many beginning to see he's a League above the rest. Trump should show up next time. Trump should try to do the same. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:57, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Final score: Trump 248 million, [9] Fox News 13 million. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:58, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

That's got to be close to a world record, 248 million views in 24 hours. (Wow, it was 248.6 a minute ago when I retrieved it from the front page, and it 248.7 now a minute late. That even beats Rich Men North of Richmond.). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:03, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

248.8 now a minute or two later. It's getting nearly 100,000 hits per minute right now (don't expect MSM or Tech magazines to report this). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:05, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

I can hear all the conspiracy theories already: "Trump and Kremlin have quite a bot operation"; "Amazing, Musk and the NSA can handle the server load." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:09, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

And 50% of those who watched could be critics/skeptics of Trump, disagreeing with what he said. A large majority of voters don't want a Trump Biden rematch in 2024.

Meanwhile, Presidential De Santis's Debate Night Highlights: https://youtu.be/CexqdE6yhZc?si=odLj127mNDcmUJDG NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:21, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Roll Call: Majority don't want Trump Biden Rematch in 2024

See this from Roll Call: "With a Joe Biden vs. Donald Trump rematch being the current conventional wisdom, the 2024 election — mired in personality — is quickly becoming the election that voters don’t want. In fact, a solid majority of voters have an unfavorable view of each of the leading candidates, as people wonder whether either man can manage the increasing turmoil coming from all sides.

What is clear in most polls is the sorry fact that voters don’t want either candidate to run. An Economist/YouGov poll conducted June 10-13 found 59 percent of voters don’t want Biden to seek reelection, with only 26 percent favoring a run for a second term.

In the same poll, Trump got similar results — with 56 percent against him running again compared to 33 percent in favor. Independents were against either candidate running again, with 64 percent against Biden and 59 percent against Trump." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:24, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

The Dump Biden movement gains momentum. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:26, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Yup. But Trump is only 5 points behind at 59. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:29, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

At this point, the only way for the Dems to get away from the charge of election tampering and interfering with American democracy is to dump Biden and hope the allegations don't stick to Newsom or whoever and the party as a whole. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:31, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Consider the source, Roll Call magazine. Its readership is aimed at members of Congress and their staff, not the general public (as in the warning they sent out last week to conservative members not to endorse Trump cause you'll get indicted); this is message to Biden supporters in Congress to dump Biden, cause a majority in the public don't want him to run again. Roll Call could care less about Trump, cause Trump doesn't live and work in DC now. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:35, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

That doesn't change the fact that some 60% don't want Trump to run, like 65% for Biden.

And Bro Rob, mere "allegations" are not going to do anything. They're very happy to win and get into the White House while Conservatives are reduced to making "allegations". What we need is a Solid, Proven Conservative who will (1) prevent them from Cheating (2) Win by such a clear number - e.g. 100 MN votes or so - that even Cheating will not swing it for the Dems. And Conservative Champion Gov. Ron De Santis is that Man who can do that and stop the Deep State from Election and Governing Interference. Biden, Newsom, whoever it is, Conservatives need to do both (1) and (2) above to win and Presidential De Santis will. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:40, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) As a daily "news" publication, Roll Call is about as swampy and deep state as you can get - cause that's who it's aimed at and that's who its readers are - the DC swamp (there are numerous other publications, think tank & government reports, newsletter blogs etc. But this is supposed to be an up to the minute "news" publication). It outlines all the "talking points" before even the MSM gets them. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:46, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

"It doesn't change the fact...". What makes you think it's a "fact"?

In assessing the veracity of any supposed "news" organization, look first at its intended audience. This is not meant for mass consumption. It is outlining a strategy and talking points. Hopefully then, the MSM will pick it up: "Polls say the public doesn't want either of them to run." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:46, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

So yes, it is advocating for a DeSantis-Newsom contest, which Fox News is already working on (old news). The problem for the Swamp is getting from here to there with the MSM and public onboard. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:50, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

"That doesn't change the fact that some 60% don't want Trump..."

It is a fact that Roll Call reported 60% don't want Trump to run; it is not a fact that 60% don't want Trump to run. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:28, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

So if allegedly it's wrong, then how do you know what was reported about Biden is allegedly correct? Maybe Majorities actually want him too, lol. Anyway, all these have been confirmed by Multiple Polls: "Though Donald Trump enjoys an improved standing among Republicans, the result of the general elections might be shocking for him, warns an AP-NORC poll." https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/64-of-americans-will-not-vote-for-trump-in-2024-poll-results-101692242596565.html

If Trump is the Nominee, he will lose again to Biden, shamelessly blame cheating and excuse himself for complete failure, and indulge in more self-pity, defeatism, will destroy the Principles of the Conservative Movement, further divide America, and achieve nothing.

Here's Trump claim Cruz "cheated" when Cruz won Iowa: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674

For better or worse, no one trusts the Boy who cried Wolf beyond a certain point, and that's all where Donald Duck Trump is right now.

If that's the Dystopian Future you want, go for it. But with Presidential Governor De Santis, that will be avoid and Conservatives win.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:29, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

I don't know how you come up with any of that. It's a cooked poll that comes up the message that a supposed majority don't want either to run, rather than "Trump indictments kill chances", which is the news they'd like to run. And they can't say "Majority don't want Biden to run." It's a cooked poll that says, "Majority want DeSantis-Newsom ticket". Look at the timing of release. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:25, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

And the AP Poll: "64% of Americans will not vote for Trump in 2024: Poll Results"? NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:31, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

That's not news. It's programmed talking points for the swamp.

(ec) It's a script. None of this is spontaneous or random. They all follow a script.

Look at this script here, for erxample; Zelensky gets the message from his intel agencies, "Hey buddy, you are out." So he has to keep his ear close to the ground to figure what day is the expiration date in 2024, come up with a cover story, buy the plane tickets and figure out his escape route, etc etc etc.

So look at 2024 primary schedule. They all know where they are going to be on such-and-such a date. Press releases and polling results are scheduled in advance. You seem to think this is random "news" that falls from heaven, like the rain. It isn't. It's programmed. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:37, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Election eve, 2016. The polls said Hillary was going to win with 64%. You need to lay your ideological blinders off and learn from your experience. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:41, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Update: Here's your latest deep state headline: Trump leverages Georgia arrest to amplify White House campaign. IOWs, they need to plot their strategy for their next more. Look, Roll Call has two categories, "Politics" and "Policy". It's in "Policy".

"Policy", IOWs, it's the standing rules how everybody is suppose to handle a given situation going forward. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:47, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Look at this one: Newest Trump indictment leaves lawmakers repeating themselves. It's a message to lawmakers, 'you're getting boring'. You don't see that kind of headline in MSM - all you see on MSM is lawmakers repeating themselves, whereas the enthusiasm is on Trump's side as he leverages the indictment. They are thrashing about for new ideas and a new PR strategy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:56, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Reminder from 2016: Donald Duck Trump claimed Ted Cruz "stole" the Iowa Caucuses after losing to Cruz there

"Trump accuses Cruz of ‘fraud,’ calls for new Iowa election

By NICK GASS

02/03/2016 08:55 AM EST

Updated: 02/03/2016 05:13 PM EST

Donald Trump’s moment of humility didn’t last long. The billionaire businessman, still licking his wounds after a decisive loss in Iowa on Monday, is now crying foul, accusing Ted Cruz of stealing the election and calling for a do-over.

After congratulating Cruz during his concession speech on Monday night, Trump took to Twitter on Wednesday morning to make the case for why his loss was a crock.

“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he illegally stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong any [sic] why he got more votes than anticipated. Bad!” Trump tweeted Wednesday morning. The tweet disappeared within minutes of posting and was replaced by with another that no longer included the word “illegally.”

He followed up with an ultimatum: “Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,” he tweeted. Trump said later Wednesday that he’ll likely sue. “I probably will; what he did is unthinkable,” he said during an interview with Boston Herald Radio."

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:32, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

These programmed stories will be published daily between now and November 2024.

The reason the Dems came with no-name candidates like Carter in 1976, Clinton in 1992, Obama in 2008 is cause they were a blank slate. An unknown quantity. They had no baggage. When you run a known quantity like Hillary, Trump, Gore, etc. they carry baggage. This does not make the case for Desantis as long as Trump is willing to fight.

Now, you can argue the case that a DeSantis-Trump primary contest is like the 2008 Hillary-Obama contest where the dark horse beat the known incumbent. That may appeal to Democrats who are naive and like to gamble, but conservatives value experience. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:45, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed. Conservatives should Value Good Experience, like that of running Record Budget Surpluses, not Bad Experience, like that of Raising National Debt by 8 Trillion Dollars. When De Santis becomes President, especially for Two Terms, he will solve America's Debt Problem.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:56, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

And yes, your 2008 analogy of Obama beating Clinton is a Good One, except De Santis has Credible Accomplishments Barry Obama never had.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:57, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

To speak with any authority on the $8 trillion debt, you're going to need a bit better understanding of economics. Anyone who cashed a $3,000 covid stimulus check is responsible for the debt increase. To try to pin it on Trump, if you're getting these talking points from the DeSantis camp, only makes you look like an opportunist. We are, after all, conservative Republicans, not idiot Democrats who fall for any line of BS. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:06, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Well, I'm an Investment Banker, so fairly Good at Economics. Next, it's an objective fact he raised it by 8 TN Dollars, while De Santis ran record Budget Surpluses: "TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Today, Governor Ron DeSantis announced the surplus for Fiscal Year 2021-22 is $21.8 billion – the highest in state history and more than 21 percent above the state budget for the fiscal year. Collections in May were $742 million above estimates, and preliminary data for June collections are approximately $950 million above estimates.

“Despite the headwinds created by the Biden administration’s policies, Florida is in a strong fiscal position because we preserved freedom and kept our economy open,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “Our responsible policies have allowed us to make record investments to support our communities, promote education, protect the environment, and provide record tax relief for Floridians, all while building record reserves to protect the state against the reckless fiscal policies from Washington.” https://www.flgov.com/2022/07/07/governor-ron-desantis-announces-record-surplus-for-fiscal-year-2021-22/ Finally, the Buck stops with Trump. He was the President and should have done better. He also should have fired Fauci and reduced dependence on the CDC. He did some ok things. But De Santis is better than him. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:24, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Persistent budget surpluses aren't much more healthy than deficits. The government has to do something with that money, it has to buy assets and invest in something. It leads to a situation where the government eventually owns everything, like communism. Should be able to understand that. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:35, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Boom! Gov Ron De Santis now LEADS Trump in Vote Consideration

Wow! Gov. Ron De Santis now actually LEADS Trump in Vote Consideration, i.e. Share of Republican Primary Voters considering voting for each Candidate now after the Debate versus before it happened.

From: https://twitter.com/GiancarloSopo/status/1694802983085568003

"Ron DeSantis won the debate. Among Republican primary voters who watched the debate:

1. DeSantis was rated #1
2 DeSantis now leads Trump by 6 pts in vote consideration
3 DeSantis has the highest favorables among all candidates

(Image in the Link). Those who can Post Images can post it here if they wish. Otherwise, you can click on the Twitter Link to read it. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:25, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

I can find polls that say Ramaswamy won the debate. It means nothing. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:36, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

And virtually no one says they won't vote for Trump cause he refused to debate. No matter how you measure it, it's tainted. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:38, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

You can't ignore the 800 lb. gorilla not in the room. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:39, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Please read carefully. De Santis was 63 before the Debate adn is 87.5% after it. Trump was 81.4% before it and is 66.2% after it. Can you please post the Graph Image as a Picture here so we can analyze it more? Imo, it was a mistake for Trump not to show up, but to each his own. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:13, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

It's tainted no matter how you cut it. The 40%+ frontrunner was not included. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

New Fox News Iowa Poll Post Debate - De Santis now in Statistical Dead Heat with Trump in one-on-one contest

Wow! Amazing Bump for Pro-Life Hero and Conservative Christian Crusading Champion Gov. Ron De Santis from the Debate:

"The Public Opinion Strategies poll also found DeSantis closing the gap against Trump in a head-to-head matchup, with DeSantis having 40% support to Trump's 43% post-debate.

Pre-debate, DeSantis largely trailed with 34% compared to Trump's 51%." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-poll-shows-desantis-closing-gap-trump-after-first-republican-debate NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:37, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

Trump was better than Clinton, sure, but that's a low bar. Clinton/Obama/Biden are like -100%. De Santis is like +100% when it comes to a Conservative Record and a Christian Life. De Santis-Trump-Clinton is like 100-0-neg 100. Yes, Trump>Clinton, but De Santis>Trump. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:05, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

De Santis already completes - with 4.5 months left - an Amazing 50 of Iowa's 99 Counties after Pledging/Promising to visit them all

Here's yet another Proof Governor Ron De Santis keeps his Promises. When Ron De Santis promised to visit all of Iowa's 99 counties - and keep in mind he's still continuing his role as Florida's Amazingly Successful Governor, with an economy ranked no. 1, and with people shouting "2 more years" when he won re-election because they wanted him to run for President as well, as he's doing - many were skeptical. They thought he couldn't follow through. But he has. In the below video, De Santis mentions he's half way there with 4.5 months left. 50 of 99 counties.

"This is our 50th County in Iowa ... so we're halfway home, and we're having fun doing it". https://youtu.be/IgQnf0DRAHo NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:16, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, so he's taking a page out of the Grassley playbook. Can you say, "machine politics"? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:09, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

Reminder: In Dec 2022, Governor Ron De Santis was CRUSHING Trump by 23 Points

"In a new poll regarding potential Republican nominees for president in 2024, the Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, led Donald Trump by 23 points." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/14/first-thing-ron-desantis-takes-huge-lead-over-trump-in-republican-poll

The only reason De Santis' measurable support declined a bit is because (1) De Santis was too focused on the Actual Hard Work of Governing rather than enjoying himself doing nothing or just campaigning - you know, like Trump raising the Debt by 8 TN Dollars, while De Santis ran Record Budget Surpluses - that Governing. (2) And because, the Press started their fake narrative that De Santis could not win. And also (3) because Trump attacked De Santis, but De Santis mistakenly didn't Punch Back (later he did) initially. I'd have advised him to.

Just wait and watch. Let the Debates pass and let's see how the candidates do. By Dec 2023, De Santis could well be leading again. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:38, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Yep. It shows the corruption, influence, and brainwashing big money can bring into the alleged "democratic" process. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:41, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Nope, that was his Excellent Record delivering Budget Surpluses, fighting the Woke Left, being Pro-Life, Anti-Fauci, Pro-Freedom etc that did that. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:04, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

And it's all been downhill since. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:15, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

CNBC: Trump holds big lead in new Iowa poll, but DeSantis and Scott see paths to victory

"KEY POINTS

Former President Donald Trump holds a double-digit lead over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in a major new poll of likely Republican caucusgoers in Iowa.But the Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom poll also found that a majority of respondents were still undecided as to who they will support, leaving a door open for Trump’s rivals.The poll was released days before the first Republican primary debate and the same week Trump is required to surrender to authorities in Georgia, where he faces more than dozen felony counts ...

But Trump’s advantage is still not ironclad, according to the joint survey conducted by the Des Moines Register, NBC News and Mediacom. Fully 52% of respondents said they had not yet decided who they would support, while 40% said they were certain."

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/21/trump-leads-desantis-in-iowa-poll-ahead-of-first-republican-debate.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:41, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

De Santis' Record on Conservative Judges in Florida

"He added, "And in Florida, I inherited a very liberal state supreme court, maybe the most liberal in the country, very activist. But I was able to replace three of the four liberals my first month in office with conservative justices. I've since been able to make a number of appointments since then. So we now have the most conservative state supreme court in the country. And so I think we have a really good track record on doing that.:https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/desantis-says-he-has-respect-for-trumps-3-supreme-court-appointees-but-theyre-no-thomas-or-alito-well-do-better-than-that/articleshow/100947146.cms NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:02, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

Fox: DeSantis campaign boasts endorsements, latest poll numbers as signs of momentum in Iowa

De Santis is doing extremely well in Iowa, despite the Fake News Media trying to create a Fake Narrative to the contrary. The below proves it.

"Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has received a historic 40 endorsements from Iowa state legislators, his campaign says

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis' campaign is boasting of endorsements and the latest poll numbers as signaling growing ground support in Iowa.

DeSantis’ team said he’s received a historic 40 endorsements from state legislators and has a total of 120 county-level chairs supporting him – at least one in each of the state’s 99 counties. That’s the most of any candidate in the race, DeSantis campaign spokeswoman Carly Atchison told Fox News Digital.

The Florida governor — just months away from Iowa caucus day — also has more than 10,000 Iowans committed to caucus for him, representing one-fifth of the total Iowans who caucused for former presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, when Cruz won the Iowa caucuses in 2016 ...

Despite having more than $20 million spent against him, DeSantis is still viewed as favorable by two-thirds of likely caucus-goers, the highest favorability of any candidate in the field, according to a new Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom Iowa Poll of 406 likely Republican caucus-goers conducted Aug. 13-17 ...

The Des Moines Register poll shows 66% of respondents viewed DeSantis favorably, compared to 29% who saw him as unfavorable. This was ahead of the current frontrunner, former President Donald Trump, who was viewed as favorable by 65% of respondents.

DeSantis is also the first choice, second choice or being actively considered by 61% of likely caucus-goers, just slightly behind the 63% of respondents who said the same for Trump. No other candidate has broken out of single digits."

From: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-campaign-boasts-endorsements-latest-poll-numbers-sign-momentum-iowa NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:44, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, gotta hand it to you, you beat out Roll Call magazine by two weeks with this one: DeSantis touts Iowa ‘kingmaker’ whose picks weren’t nominated. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:08, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

No one is talking about China, India, Democrats, the 2024 election or election betting markets, or the oil industry in this thread

The market for Russian oil sales to China/India is probably the decisive factor as Russia uses this to fund the war.

Noone can reliably forecast the Chinese economy in the short to midterm given the opaqueness of the Chinese system.

Given the Biden administration's malpractice in terms of foreign policy, the sad part of this whole debacle is that it's a toss-up of whether the Democrats are thrown out of the White House in the next election with the betting markets saying the Democrats have a 54% chance of winning in 2024.[10].

This might be the key to the war and it has to do with the American oil industry: “It’s perhaps less about the administration in power and more about the entrepreneurial nature of the oil industry,” said Matt Smith, Kpler’s lead oil analyst of the Americas.[11] Maybe the war will depend on some entrepreneurial breakthrough in the oil industry which will lower the price of oil in the world. Conservative (talk) 22:29, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Russia has to fund this war for it to continue. Oil/gas prices are an important component as far as the future of this war since a substantial part of the Russian economy is in the oil/gas industry.

So regardless of whether someone brought this up, it's very relevant. Conservative (talk) 23:42, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Unfortunately for Russia, world crude oil prices are substantially down from the May 2022 peak as can be seen HERE. Conservative (talk) 23:48, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

We've heard this same noise out of you at least 365 times over the past year. Can't you ever come up with something new and interesting? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:55, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

"Iraqi Oil Minister’s Ankara visit raises hopes for resuming halted exports, potentially easing OPEC+ supply crunch.

Chinese economic woes exert downward pressure on oil prices, despite Beijing’s recent moderate rate cut.

J.P.Morgan analysts underline China’s slipping demand for mobility fuels, another damper on oil prices."[12]

And its going to be hard for Russia to diversify its civilian economy from an overreliance on oil/gas during the war because it is spending more on guns which will decrease its ability to spend on butter. See: Guns vs. Butter model. Conservative (talk) 00:03, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

bla bla bla. So far you've posted about 1,500 bytes to disrupt an ongoing discussion. Have some courtesy toward other users, please. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:06, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

Hint: In a geopolitical discussion, the object is to zero-in and focus on specifics, not to spread it out with irrelevant subjects like China, India, or US elections in an effort to make yourself sound (or convince yourself) that you are informed or intelligent. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:35, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

And we know where your whole conversation is going: "If only a Republican is elected in the next election, there will be peace", along with other assorted jingoism. Meanwhile, between now and November 2024, another 180,000 Ukrainian soldiers could be killed, but who gives a crap, huh? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:38, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

It's the entrepreneurial activity in the West in the energy industry that is going to hurt the ability of the Russians to fund this war. I cite: The Five-Year Engineering Feat Germany Pulled Off in Months as far as its natural gas facilities.

Step by step Russia's ability to fund this war will be diminished via Western entrepreneurial activity in the energy industry. Conservative (talk) 00:44, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

You post the same tired old junk all the time. Don't forget your narcissitic boast of having defeated internet atheism single handedly. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:05, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

I recall ALWAYS saying that I merely assisted Christendom. I challenge you to find a quote that shows otherwise. He who asserts must prove! The ball is in your court. I doubt you will get it over the net. Conservative (talk) 01:28, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

Huh? Aren't you the guy who single handedly defeated internet atheism? We've heard it a thousand times. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:35, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

If you are telling the truth, then it should be easy for you to find a quote. All I hear is crickets! Feel to engage in last wordism though. Conservative (talk) 01:38, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) But you didn't rest on your laurels. No. Next you took on Ratioanalwikians carbohydrate intake and French Fry eating. Now you've set your sights on Russia. Vladimir Putin is quaking in his boots. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:40, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

What is Narcissism anyway? Is it keeping your user talk page clean and holy and too proud to bend down and talk to others? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:32, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

I recall ALWAYS saying that I merely assisted Christendom.

Two "I"s in one sentence. Rather narcissistic, isn't it? I'm sure God is grateful to you for your assistance to Christianity, as well. I wasn't aware God needed help until you stepped up to volunteer. If God doesn't recognize and reward you for your narcissism, let me thank you, instead. Where would God and the world be without your assistance to Christianity? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 07:59, August 23, 2023 (EDT)

GOP/Fox News debate aftermath

National Review reviews Nikki Haley's Debate Performance: a word on Trump too and why chances are that he'll lose to Biden

Nikki Haley continues to look Good as a Prospective VP Candidate. In this: https://twitter.com/GiancarloSopo/status/1694802983085568003

While De Santis is now top by that Metric of Overall Vote Consideration, Nikki Haley had the largest debate movement (from 30.2% to 46.7%)

"We have to look at the fact that three-quarters of Americans don’t want a rematch between Trump and Biden,” she averred. “And we have to face the fact that Trump is the most disliked politician in America. We can’t win a general election that way.” Maybe Trump is not “the most disliked politician in America,” but if his favorability ratings are any indication, he comes close — certainly more than any other candidate on that debate stage. And when she hit the spin room in the debate’s wake, Haley bravely reminded Republicans that Donald Trump will be too consumed with his upcoming civil and criminal trials to run an effective national campaign. Trump is “going to spend more time in a courtroom next year than he is campaigning,” she said. “We have to be realistic about that.” Haley is absolutely right. GOP voters may be inclined to shoot the messenger, but the circumstances she describes are inevitable now. If Trump is the party’s nominee, they will only frustrate the already difficult task of unseating an incumbent president." https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/08/nikki-haley-treats-you-like-an-adult/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:37, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Nikki Haley's Sudden Wealth Rooted in Weapons Industry, Pro-War Advocacy Network. The former U.N. ambassador went from virtually no savings in 2017 to a small fortune in part from defense contracting and war advocacy ties. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:44, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Now, the only way this can be refuted is to say she lied on disclosure forms. I don't see why another minute should be spent on her. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:47, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Who cares what her positions or ideology are? She willing it sell it out for money and career advancement. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:48, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Hallelujah! Christian Conservative Champion Ron De Santis Gains 8 Points in National Polls post Winning Debate Performance

"Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is on the rebound in the race for the White House after his strong showing in this week’s GOP debate, climbing 8 points among Republicans in a new national poll.

The InsiderAdvantage survey of likely Republican primary and caucus voters found the Florida governor at 18% in the GOP presidential contest — a sharp gain from the 10% he notched in the days ahead of Wednesday’s first debate.

Another debate winner was Nikki Haley, the poll showed, who more than doubled her support – from 5% to 11% – on her forceful performance, while biotech millionaire Vivek Ramaswamy held steady at 7%.

“DeSantis performed well in the debate and I think at times looked like the most presidential candidate on the stage,” political consultant Ryan Girdusky said. “The biggest issues Republican voters are thinking about this cycle are crime, immigration, and the economy and on all three issues, DeSantis was far better than the rest of the field.”

https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/ron-desantis-on-the-rebound-as-trump-touts-lead-over-biden/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:36, August 29, 2023 (EDT)

Massive 260,000 Russian Losses in 1.5 Years of Putin's War

I'd not been following this page for some time, but showed up on my feed today. This page is a Government Account, and it has been consistently and periodically updated from the beginning of the War. It is certainly a Credible Source, though Kremlin-backers won't like it. Of course, if it showed 26,000 instead of 260,000, they might like it, but facts are facts, and facts show Russia is losing many men.

"“People protect what they love.” Jacques Yves Cousteau

Total combat losses of the enemy from February 24, 2022 to August 25, 2023:" [Image in the Link]

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1694958363384127781 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:09, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

It's bs. Russia KIA is about 40,000, Ukrainian 180,000+. I'm giving a 4.5 :1 kill ratio, but it's easily 5:1, and realistically more like 7:1.

Just count the ratio of artillery shells fired, and translate that into deaths for verification. There are other ways, too.

Since the start of the war, Kyiv has lied (beginning with the ghost of Kyiv). Those casualty figures all come from Kyiv, and repeated unquestioningly by Western MSM. In contrast, Moscow knows it's at a disadvantage in the propaganda war, so it has built and guarded its credibility closely. Moscow reports the casualty figures it gives out on Ukrainian KIA it picks up from front line radio intercepts, and there is no reason to doubt them.

The Russians are very experienced at war, much more than the West. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:18, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Douglas Macgregor - Russia has 750,000 Troops Surrounding The Stronghold.. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:49, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Again, it's all programmed. Kyiv is losing public support from the West, and the soldiers and public are demoralized. So they have to release these figures in response to the latest CNN poll on American popular support for funding.

All along, on virtually everything, Kyiv and the West have used projection - ascribing to Russia their own actions and results. There is solid evidence of 260,000 Ukrainians dead and wounded, maybe even twice as much; some now are saying Ukraine has in excess of 200,000 dead. Whatever the kill rate, multiply by 3 or 4 the casualties, most of which are permanent and will never return to combat. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:27, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Russia claimed that before too, but then they did a Major Mobilization. They wouldn't have to do that if they hadn't lost many Soldiers. There's hardly any appetite in Russia for a Further Mobilization. It remains that Putin will, in 1 or 2 years, have to leave Ukraine. It's happened before and no Reason it can't happen again. This doesn't have to break out to WWIII. America left Iraq and both America and Russia left Afghanistan. When Nations realize they can't win, they go home, start over and focus on resolving domestic problems. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:28, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

"It seems the Kremlin has largely given up on gathering troops for its war in Ukraine through mobilization. Likely because Russia's leadership remains fearful of a domestic political backlash. Instead, they have been upping efforts in recent months to encourage men to sign up voluntarily and serve as contract soldiers.

That said, Putin is keeping the mobilization option open just in case — his first mobilization decree remains legally in force."

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/06/anything-but-more-mobilization-russias-stealthy-push-to-find-more-soldiers-a80732 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:32, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Oh yes, the Russian casualty rate has increased in the past 3 or 4 months, true. They lost maybe 24,000 KIA in the first 14 months, and probably 10,000 to 12,000 since May of this year. The Russians have gone from under 100 dead and wounded daily to over 100 this summer; Kyiv right now is losing an average of 700 daily, up from 500 it has been losing since June of 2022 continuously. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:39, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Again Moscow Times is a CIA front. Please stop posting it. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:40, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

"It seems the Kremlin has largely given up on gathering troops", ahh, don't think so. They only 700,000 troops standing at the ready just outside the warzone now, and are mobilizing another 1.5 million. Sometime I may go into Russian mobilization processes (think of cellular mitosis).

Ukraine really only has about a 40,000 man effective fighting force left; it has no reserves. The rest are conscripts of untrained, ill equipped teenage boys and men over 50 who do not want to fight, and the Russians get no joy out of killing as the sadists in NATO and Kyiv keep sending them forward. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 08:46, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Huge Decline in the Value of the Russian Ruble: now worth about 1 cent

"This is THE INDICATOR FROM PLANET MONEY. I'm Paddy Hirsch.

WAILIN WONG, HOST:

And I'm Wailin Wong. A Russian ruble today is worth about 1 cent. That's the lowest value it's had against the dollar since March of 2022.

HIRSCH: And this is a big deal for the Russian people, right? It means the cost of goods is rising and contributing to overall inflation. It's also a big deal for the Russian government and the central bank because it makes observers think they aren't really capable of controlling their currency. But it's a really big deal for Russia's president, Vladimir Putin."

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1195733556 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:00, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

When are you going to go home, Vladimir Putin? For the Love of God, stop killing Ukrainians in their Home Country and go back to your own Home, i.e. Russia. Your own people will surely thank you for it later on if you do. If not, Ukrainians will keep fighting for their Country, and Good People everywhere who know it's a Christian and Moral Obligation to assist the defenseless in ways that we can will keep justly condemning it and spreading awareness of your wrongs. Putin has no winning strategy here: economically, the War can only end one way. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:03, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Oh wow. Now NPR is going to educate us. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:38, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

The global economy is in a transitionary phase that will affect global politics for the next 30 years. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:41, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

The global economy is always changing and transitioning. No breaking news there. Make some actual arguments using evidence and logical arguments. Offering vague generalities and responding to your debate opponents with statements like "meaningless" and "blah blah blah" is totally embarrassing. If you're losing a debate badly, show some dignity and concede or remain silent. Conservative (talk) 10:53, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

As for the Economy - this isn't an issue pertaining to the "Global Economy". It's a harmful effect of Putin's Kremlin's War for Russia's

I have a different Vision: It's July 2026. De Santis has won big, America stops promoting the Woke Agenda, and instead promotes Jesus Christ and His Cause of Pro-Life, first in America itself, then around the world beginning with Europe and becomes Righteous again.

Next, as for Russia, which I love, because of its people's love for Jesus and Mary despite some errors, either Putin goes and Navalny or some other Good Leader leads them to friendly relations with America and Europe, or Putin at least withdraws troops, and US-Russia relations improve. Patriarch Kirill has blamed the West for spreading Pro-LGBT Liberal Values, one reason I support a President De Santis who won't. I agree America should not promote Atheistic, Sodomy, Woke, LGBT "Values", and Christian Values instead. I also have pointed out before Pro-Life Americans and Pro-Life Clergy in the Russian Church have worked together before, showing that that is possible. But for that to happen, Russia should go back to its own Vast Territory (it is an Amazingly Large Country), reflect on the War, realize this is what Radical Islamists and other Enemies of Europe and Christendom want, and stop it. Then, Pro-Life Conservatives Universally unite. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:55, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Powell Pushes Dollar to Longest Weekly Win Streak in 15 Months. Conservative (talk) 18:03, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Given Russia's small economy, not even 1/10th as Large as America's, it is Anything but Meaningless. It shows the War is not sustainable.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:33, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Personal attack on another editor

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NishantXavier, do you think the ruble will go lower? If so, how long do you think the ruble will go? Conservative (talk)

Chart of the currency exchange between the Russian ruble to dollars from December 5, 2003 to August 26, 2023

Russian ruble slides to 16-month low against U.S. dollar as capital flight, shrinking trade surplus bite, Marketwatch, August 14, 2023

There's no telling on how low the Russian ruble may go as the war in Ukraine drags on. John Joseph Mearsheimer thinks the war could drag on for a very a long time. Conservative (talk) 01:12, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 01:21, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

A pervert's map of America

Florida has been getting pretty rough on trannies lately, according to this map.

Have you ever wondered what perverts think of America? Me neither! As far as I am concerned, they can take it to Russia if they don't like it. But they want to tell us all about it anyway. Here is a map from "Anti-Trans Bills Are Sweeping the US" in Jacobin. The takeaway is that perverts don't like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for some reason. In fact, his state is in whole other category. PeterKa (talk) 21:12, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

This map belongs in his bio, with a blurb to add context. He may use it to boost his campaign. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:49, August 25, 2023 (EDT)