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Uniparty dominance of Deep State and appointments

The GOP doesn't deserve another chance at a red wave. The party has become intolerably corrupt, and these days a red wave would be hardly different than a blue wave. Only one person is standing in the way of the GOP going the way of the Whigs, and that is Donald Trump. Unfortunately, it appears he is too stubborn to pull the plug and allow a new party to fill the void.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:33, September 2, 2022 (EDT

Jacob Driezen says the GOP is the stupid party, the Democrats are the corrupt party. More and more I have to agree with that assessment. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 23:06, September 2, 2022 (EDT)

Geo: make up your mind. Since you hate both DeSantis & Trump, which sacrificial lamb do you want to offer to Biden/Kamala/Buttijug/Newsome? RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 23:10, September 2, 2022 (EDT)

Where did you get the idea that I hate Trump? I don't hate him, I just think his administration didn't do as much good for the conservative and populist causes as others here give him credit for. After all, he made quite a bit of hiring mistakes and at the end of the day personnel is policy.

That being said, my pick for 2024 is a Rand Paul-Tulsi Gabbard unity ticket. If any ticket were capable of triggering the Deep State more than Trump, it would be that one.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:50, September 2, 2022 (EDT)

Trump's "hiring mistakes" are not his hiring mistakes. The president can no longer hire the people he chooses (e.g. Mike Flynn, Sheriff Clarke, etc.) Call it Deep State institutional corruption. Criticizing Trump deflects from the real problem. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 00:09, September 3, 2022 (EDT)

The president is given a list of names of people with the requiste qualifications and security clearances. He does not know any of these people. So he turns to somebody like Chris Christie and asks, "What about this guy Christopher Wray?" Christie gives the nod and the rest is history. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 00:14, September 3, 2022 (EDT)

I assume it was Attorney General Jeff Sessions. DAG Rod Rosenstein is said to have been a Sessions appointee as well. Like James Comey and Robert Mueller, Wray threatened to resign in March 2004 over Stellar Wind. They were a team after that. WaPo suggested him even before Trump nominated him. The liberal media was certainly very happy with the nomination. You wouldn't think that WaPo could dictate appointments in a Republican administration, but it was the same with the Mueller appointment.PeterKa (talk) 02:31, September 3, 2022 (EDT)

Well yah, but Christie & even Rudy Guiliani, both who had worked with him as federal prosecutors, would have to pass muster. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 05:06, September 3, 2022 (EDT)

Wray had just represented Gazprom, i.e. colluded with Russia, an allegation at the heart of the Carter Page FISA warrant and a key issue in Comey's firing. Perhaps Trump thought Wray would set things right. But the incident illustrates Deep State Uniparty corruption in the Senate - Senators who clearly would have been aware of certain factual matters and welcomed the Wray nomination. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 05:15, September 3, 2022 (EDT)

Many of Trump's bad appointees had red flags that could be easily found through simple online research. Unfortunately, most so-called conservative media outlets refused to cover those red flags until it was too late because they either (a) were cowards who would rather tell their audience what they wanted to hear than tell them the ugly truth; or (b) were closet Deep State shills who wanted those bad appointees to get in because they were Deep Staters.

Perhaps the most blatant example of this is John Bolton. Anyone who did the slightest bit of research on him would know that he was a neocon warmonger, but when Trump picked him to be NSA most so-called conservative media outlets worked overtime to publish revisionist history depicting him as MAGA with "tough guy" tendencies (unfortunately I fell for that propaganda, at least in the beginning). It was only after Trump fired Bolton and Bolton wrote a book, that those same media outlets began telling the truth. And even then, they sent a message to their audience that neocon warmongers are neocon warmongers if and only if they don't like Trump, or vice versa. Which of course is a total lie, and demonstrates that when push comes to shove these media outlets have the same level of contempt for their audience that the ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC have for theirs.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:02, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

Go to the Deep State article, and click on the link to the Senior Executive Service (SES). That's the Deep State. You have to have your name on that list to qualify for all the Senior positions that require security clearances in all Departments, agencies, and the White House. Guys like Bolton or Wray just turned out to be the best choices of among a bunch of bad candidates. Republicans for the most part work in the private sector, and Dems dominate the SES. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 16:51, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

The SES for the most part are career civil service officials. Once in a while someone is needed for a senior position from outside government. Many Treasury officials for example, come from Wall Street. In recent years, people from Silicon Valley have secured some of these senior positions. There are other ways outside government to get on the list as a Senior Executive official, for example, membership in the CFR. Business officials who do work outside the U.S. and have contact with foreigners are encouraged to join the CFR (membership is by invitation only). Once a member of CFR, then you have to abide by CFR rules (for example, if you suspect that you were contacted by a Russian or Chinese intelligence operative, you are suppose to report that to the FBI.) So a CFR member with no record of civil service can be fast-tracked into the SES if he or she gets an appointment requiring Senate confirmation.

Trump's problem was, he was never a member of anything, not the CFR nor SES, or whatever other "partnerships" the federal government has. Nobody in the SES trusted him. Brennan spoke openly of denying Trump as President, intelligence briefings - which Biden now has done. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 17:18, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

If the SES was and is the problem, then the solution was and is to abolish it by repealing and replacing the legislation which authorizes its existence, the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978. And yet that solution wasn’t pursued or even suggested by anybody during Trump’s four years.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:44, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

User:Conservative provided me with an article on Schedule F, which is the Trump game plan to disassemble the D.C. permanent bureaucracy and allow the President to make his own appoints. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 01:11, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

But would that be enough? Unless Congress acts to ensure otherwise, the SES will remain in existence even after the implementation of Schedule F.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:41, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Any action the president takes would likely have to be fought out in the courts. Taking a meat axe to existing legislation generally does not work. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 16:34, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Again, I am going to point to the Alger Hiss case to explain how and why the modern SES came into existence, as a closed-off community from outsiders, and resistance to outside influence or control. Stan Evans Blacklisted by History gives a good picture of what the system in D.C. was up until the 1950s that allowed the KGB to place high-level operatives in the State Depart, Treasury, White House, Pentagon, Manhattan Project and other key agencies and projects.

As a reform measure now, the FBI (not OMB) is in charge of all hiring for senior level positions in the U.S. government. All candidates must pass an FBI background check. Since passage of the Patriot Act and expansion of the intelligence community and National Security Staff (NSC), Obama cronies have taken over the FBI, Pentagon, NSC, etc.; from J. Edgar Hoover to Barack Obama, leftists and "pinkos" were discriminated in hiring to Senior government positions. Now the tables have turned, and Obama pinkos are having their revenge for decades of discrimination based on ideological commitment (call it CRT come home to roost, only its not racial, it's ideological). RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 09:02, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

I was worried that I might be a full-blown fascist. But guess what? It turns out that as a MAGA Republican, I'm only a semi-fascist, according to Joe Biden. Phew! That's a relief. But why does Biden object to the idea of making America great? When talking about our forty-sixth president, its always a challenge to avoid using the R word. "MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution," he said. This was immediately after his attempt override the constitution and the laws enacted by Congress by forgiving student loans. The most privileged people in America, those who went to college without paying for it, are getting a break. The endless investigation, and now likely prosecution, of Trump is an even more serious violation of constitutional traditions. What's Trump's crime? The Libs can't give us any coherent explanation. Their main beef is that was elected president, thereby deposing Hillary. That's something the Dems have never forgiven him for. PeterKa (talk) 22:10, September 2, 2022 (EDT)

It's the golden rule. He who has the gold rules.

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Anyone up for it? If so, I'll create a separate page for it.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:06, September 3, 2022 (EDT)

Perhaps the White House got the idea for Biden's Mussolini meltdown speech from the anti-Biden "I am the democracy" internet. Was anyone else disgusted to learn that for Biden killing babies in the womb is just another part of the soul of our nation? The first state to legalize abortion in any form was Colorado in 1967. Before that, America had no soul.

What's a "MAGA Republican" anyway? Will the MAGA Republicans play the Build Back Better Democrats? Once he was Brandon the sniffer. Now he is Dark Brandon rising. PeterKa (talk) 05:35, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

When I heard about this speech, I thought of a famous Carl Sandburg quote relating to lawyers presenting a case to a jury.

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.” - Carl Sandburg Conservative (talk) 15:44, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

I say this one goes on MPR. The Republican state attorney generals are on the case: "More Than 50 Biden Officials in 12 Federal Agencies Colluded with Big Tech to Censor Their Political Opponents" PeterKa (talk) 14:27, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

To understand all this that's been happening, the collusion between Big Tech and the intelligence community, one has to go back and re-read the Snowden leaks. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 16:44, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

• The Generic Congressional Ballot and Recent History

Time will tell. Conservative (talk) 15:40, September 4, 2022 (EDT

"Time will tell," that's how parents answered their children when they asked "Where are we going?" as they stepped off the trains at Auschwitz. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 06:27, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Alaska's new election system of ranked-choice voting has apparently confused Republican voters and led to the defeat of Sarah Palin in a recent special election for the House of Representatives. The winner, Democrat Mary Peltola, got only 40 percent of the vote. As the purpose of an election is to create "consent of the governed," that is to say, a winner who can claim the support of a majority, this is not an ideal outcome.

Under the Alaskan system, there is a non-partisan primary. The top four vote getters go on the general election, where voters rank the candidates. Why four? This is an obvious flaw in the system. If only the top two primary vote getters went on to the general election, one or the other would always get a majority. Some Republican voters may not have understood what they were supposed to do and voted for only one candidate in the general election. Ranked-choice voting is a method of generating proportional representation. But Alaska has only one house district, so proportional representation is impossible. Mathematically, ranking candidates is a pointless activity. If you allow people to vote for more than one candidate, the result is the same. This is called approval voting, or "one man, n votes." Approval voting also avoids the need to have separate primary and general elections. The motivation for all the election reform recently is to promote less partisan candidates, which I think is a valid goal.

In any event, Alaska's election system is what it is. Republicans need to do a better job of educating voters for the expected Palin-Peltola rematch in November. The American Spectator argues that RCV makes more sense in a primary than in a general election. I would argue non-partisan primaries that use approval voting make even more sense.PeterKa (talk) 22:56, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

Very interesting and well put. Thank you. I would offer only one criticism: The Civil War era rhetoric that empowered African Americans with the vote, "one man, one vote", obviously is racist, sexist, bigoted and homophobic by federal law now and Democrat House rules and should be changed to "one person, n votes", if that makes any sense. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 06:22, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

With heat and hot water rationing in Germany this winter in support of the undemocratic regime of Ukraine, what will women with long hair do? Will "Butch" become all the rage now? RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 07:14, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Use cold water. Wash their hair less. For thousands of years many women had long hair in the absence of indoor plumbing with hot water. Conservative (talk) 12:42, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Yah, they also had lice and other ailments. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 16:10, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

The sanctions jack up energy prices, to they are effective. How is that supposed to hurt Putin? PeterKa (talk) 11:28, September 13, 2022 (EDT)

The whole fraud - the NATO provoked war in Ukraine - is part of the Green Agenda to do away with fossil fuels. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 13:24, September 13, 2022 (EDT)

RobS wrote: "User:Conservative has written off Russia because of a low birth rate, but doesn't seem to understand how valuable children are to a society with a low birth rate. They feel the whole nation is being hunted and exterminated."

The low birth rate of Russia and Ukraine is one of the factors that may eventually drive Ukraine/Russia to the bargaining table. In the Soviet-Afghanistan War, Soviet mothers complaining about the only sons dying in the war put pressure on the Kremlin. But economic factors will play a big role too obviously.

A few additional points:

1. In 20219, Russia has 1.50 births per woman. A replacement level of births is 2.1 births per woman. And there is not a large amount of people who want to emigrate to Russia. On top of this, young soldiers are dying in Ukraine. In addition, Russia is now experiencing a brain drain.[1] A society with a greying population puts a lot of strain on younger people.

2. The family is the fundamental building block of society. Russia has the highest rate of divorce in the world according to the most recent UN statistics.[2] Regardless of what statistics you use, Russia has a high divorce rate compared to the rest of the world.

3. The father is considered the head of the family according to the Bible and a large percentage of the cultures around the world. Russia has the second highest rate of alcoholism among males.[3] Drunk fathers is one of the reasons why Russia has one of the highest divorce rates in the world.

4. Should Jesus tarrry and the following events, occur Russia will diminish in importance as far as being an oil/gas producer: Present global warming alarmism fad dies down in importance, USA increase its gas/oil production; UK increase its gas production; nuclear power increasing, solar technology will become more efficient over time.

But Russia still produces a lot of wheat and it is going to take a awhile for economically alternatives to oil/gas to be invented/improved. It takes time and R&D dollars to improve technology.

Now Russia is going to remain a major power for some time, but its future does not look bright as far as the living standards Russian people.

Lastly, there are Bible believers who believe that Russia is Gog in a prophecy by the prophet Ezekial and Russia will play a part in end times. To be frank, I don't know much about this topic. Conservative (talk) 12:09, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Frankly, thank you for your honesty - you don't know much about the topic. I love your leap of faith from drunk fathers to divorce. If only America had any fathers or families.

Which begs a question: Do you suppose God uses the Gallup Poll to judge nations? RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 16:19, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Since your so bullish on Russia RobS, I suggest you heavily invest in Russia and move there. And you could put a big picture of Putin on your living room wall. Conservative (talk) 18:04, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Russia is not a nation state like the UK, France, or Germany; it is a civilization like Islam, Hindustan, or China. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 19:46, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

[4] [5] [6] [7] Hello, please cover this news about Chile rejecting the leftist proposal and damaging the Gabriel Boric government.--CatolicoAustral (talk) 16:55, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

The problem is the sources you supplied, NYT, BBC, and Guardian. I assume voters in a democratic election have rejected the NATO bloc and favor alliance and trade with Russia. Do I have this correct? RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 19:32, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Chile had the most stable government in Latin America until the 1973 coup. The coup was provoked by the leftist policies of the Allende government, which resulted in an inflation rate of over 400 percent. It happened right after a midterm that was won overwhelming by the conservative opposition parties. Clinton "triangulated" after he lost a midterm in 1994. Biden is more likely to follow Obama's example and go "full Bullworth" if the voters turn against him. PeterKa (talk) 05:56, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

RobSmith

The election doesn't have anything to do with that geopolitical blocks, you can say that Chile rejected the Venezuelan Way of doing stuff and Maduro is mad about it, the rejection option is supported by conservatives and is a massive blow off to progressives the triumph of the Rejection option. Chile rejected a Socialist Constitutional Proposal! Better sources: [8] [9] [10] [11]--CatolicoAustral (talk) 11:18, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

How do Chilean voters feel about Russian sanctions? RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 21:00, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

PeterKa

You got some important points wrong, Allende assumed in 1970, the leftist take over of power was by an election, however they had guerrillas in the country anyways which became more radical with Allende in power (the period known as the Government of the "Unidad Popular"). The 1973 "coup" was not by leftist police, it was a coup against socialism and against Allende which installed a patriotic government, so yeah, you got the history wrong, see Military Government (Chile).--CatolicoAustral (talk) 11:18, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

I was thinking that if Republicans win the midterms, the U.S. would have a leftist president, a conservative congress, and high inflation, the same combination that led to Pinochet's coup in Chile. In Chile, women did the grocery shopping and protested inflation. The men thought the higher salaries were great. It was the wives of the generals and the colonels who demanded a coup. PeterKa (talk) 12:20, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

RobSmith Aschlafly Please add this to the news of Conservapedia.--CatolicoAustral (talk) 14:03, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

UK drunks and gluttons is doing wonders for the Red Wave. Now voters can safely ignore defense of criticism that conservatives use stereotypes, bigotry, and hate speech when talking about foreigners or people of other cultures. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 19:05, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

"One of them, a prophet of their own, said, 'Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.' This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth." - The Apostle Paul

The Apostle Paul - he was such a bigot! Jesus should have told him to stop using hate speech! (Sarcasm).

RobS, your wokeness is ridiculous and so is your hero Putin. And your wokeness is selective wokeness because you rail against the Ukrainians and criticize the Ukrainians every day. Last time checked, being that you are a non-Ukrainian, the Ukrainians are foreigners and people from another culture. Conservative (talk) 00:49, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

I'm Slovak, Polish, and German; that's about as close as you can get to being Ukrainian without being Ukrainian, and have known and been friends with Ukrainians all my life.

In 1982, at the height of the Nuclear Freeze Movement, I marched with members of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in St. Paul to the capitol steps in Minnesota where Mondale Democrats invited a large group of Soviets for discussions, being that the Reagan administration refused to meet with and negotiate with representatives of the USSR (Harrison Salisbury, for example was a Minnesotan with a long list of USSR contacts that were invited).

You need to just keep quiet about things that you have no clue about, other than the woke propaganda you get spoon fed daily from the MSM. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 23:17, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

In 1976, in an International Relations course at the University of Wisconsin when I cited the fact that Lenin and Trotsky had ceded the Ukraine to Germany at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and admitted the Soviet Union had no just or legal claim to the Ukraine, I was called a fascist (for suggesting that the Soviet Union was illegitimate and may one day break apart). I have been in this fight my whole life and have the battle scars to prove it. When idiots today wave the Ukrainian flag, having no understanding whatsoever of what it's all about, they need to just shut up. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 23:25, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

As a Slovak, our Czech brethren have adopted the slogan, "Czech Republic First", an obvious spinoff of Trumpism and what you would call a "right wing populist movement", to protest NATO's war in Ukraine and the resultant inflation and high energy prices. They want out of NATO. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 23:33, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

Why would you post such racist crap 62 days out from the Red Wave? It's like you go out of you way to make MPR a garbled mess. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 15:27, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

We had a discussion on this matter above. See above.Conservative (talk) 16:01, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Little help for those at the back: Rob has now reached the Canadian girlfriend stage of his ongoing fountain of guff re. Ukraine. ConwayIII (talk) 19:39, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Google stetsko hitler reagan and click on anyone of the 17,500 results, begin reading, and tell me your impressions. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 19:50, September 7, 2022

Let's look at just two of the results. This one from CNN, exactly one year to the date before the Russian incursion. Wow. Did CNN walk back that one fast:

• It's time to confront the dark postscript to America's role in defeating the Nazis - CNN, February 24, 2021.

Even more outrageous is this one, 1 month before the 2008 election:

• McCain and Yaroslav Stetsko, Killer of 7,000 Jews

DailyKos uses Ukrainian Nazis to attack McCain, when history shows it was the Obama (in collusion with McCain) that brought Ukrainian Nazis to power. But all this gets swept to the back of the bus now - in order to support Ukrainian Nazis. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:00, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Then, according to User:Conservative, trying to force a discussion on these issues makes one a 'Putin stooge'. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:03, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Long story short: Stesko was begging Hitler for more help to fight Russians while Hitler was contemplating suicide in the basement; fast forward 40 years: Reagan invited him into the Oval Office. In 1991, Stesko's widow became leader of the new 'independent Ukraine' majority party. But that's only half the story. After 1991, Republicans dropped associations with Ukrainian Nazis, seeing them as more racist than just anti-communist. So the Ukronazis joined up with the Democrat Ethnic Outreach Committee, headed by Alexandra Chalupa after 'independence' in 1991. Ukronazis like Chalupa and Alexander Vindman not only interfered with American democracy in the 2016 election, they conspired to get Trump impeached. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:30, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Yeah, man. It's Nazis all the way down, which is why your fan fiction totally needs a moon base. Arm it with some of Marge's Jewish space lasers and boom! Kupyansk is saved. ConwayIII (talk) 18:53, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

When the Nazis were empowered 8 years ago by the Obama regime, an 8-year-old child would today be 16. Have you seen any of the curriculum studies in grade school since Maidan regime took over? But hey, I'm retired now, so it's your problem. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 04:21, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

Conservative anti-communism vs fascism

Many conservatives such as Joe McCarthy and Alexander Solzhenitsyn have always walked a fine line between anti-communism and the anti-Bolshevik racism advocated by Adolf Hitler. I know where that line is. Since 1991 and 'Ukrainian independence', the totalitarian fascists have won political rights in Ukrainian politics and society. Since 2014, the totalitarian fascists hold key positions in the Ukrainian government, NATO, and the European Union. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:54, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Hitler framed the Bolshevik Revolution and subsequent Russian Civil War in purely racial terms. In his demented mind it wasn't about communism vs. capitalism, but about Jews and Slavs vs. Germanics. To paraphrase:

"Es war einmal Russia was ruled by a social order constructed by and led by an aristocracy of mostly Germanic blood. But one day the eeeeeeevil Jews decided that they wanted to overthrow that social order as part of their never-ending plan to take over the world. So they recruited a bunch of low-IQ Slavs and Turks to revolt and overthrow the Germanics. Now it is up to Germany to restore the Germanics as the rightful rulers of Russia, and integrate the natives into Germanic civilization once and for all. The more racially pure Slavs are to be retroactively proclaimed Germanic, while the less racially pure Slavs and of course the Jews go to death camps. And then Russia will live happily ever after. Das Ende."

During Operation Barbarossa, this absurd narrative gained a lot of traction in areas occupied by German forces. This was particularly true in the Baltics, Moldova, the Russian Caucasus, southern and western Ukraine, the Volga region, and western Belarus, all which had significant German populations at the time. In Ukraine in particular, adding fuel to the fire was the facts that the Ukrainian population had born the brunt of Stalin's own genocidal policies, and that some (but not all or even a majority) of the chief perpetrators of the Holodomor were Jewish. The effects of the German occupation of these regions are apparent to this day.--Geopolitician (talk) 00:30, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

On a similar note, I've noticed that there's actually a competing anti-Semitic conspiracy theory concerning Ukraine circulating among Nazbol circles. In this version, Jews orchestrated the collapse of the USSR and the rise of the 90s-era oligarchs to "punish" Russia for supporting the Arabs in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Then Putin came to power and restored Russia's glory, so the Jews decided to get revenge for orchestrating the Maidan coup in Ukraine. Yes, you read all that correctly. These people really are saying that Russia is the anti-Semitic crusader and that Ukraine is the Jewish puppet state, rather than the other way around as promoted by the Azov Battalion. And whenever someone points out to them that Putin wants to "de-Nazify" Ukraine, they just double down and claim that Nazism itself is a Jewish conspiracy.--Geopolitician (talk) 00:52, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

I was with you for the first three paragraphs. I couldn't put it more succinctly myself. To bring it up to the present day, I think it's too early to tell. A guy like Kolomoisky, Azov's sugar daddy, he's just in it for himself. There's no ideological agenda. Hiring Nazis is just the way things are done in Ukraine, IMO. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 09:29, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Don't be too surprised that alternate theory exists. After all, these are Nazbols we're talking about here. These are the people who aspire to be the ultimate synthesis of Communism and Fascism, so of course they'll be building narratives which jump back and forth between Communist and Fascist talking points. Of course don't point out to them that they like to blame Jews for corrupting if not outright creating the ideologies they claim to be descended from, or else they might call you a Jew for daring to disagree with them!

Actually, it's possible to argue that Nazbols are even more anti-Semitic than either Communists or Fascists. Because while Communists and Fascists are anti-Semitic themselves, they tend to have standards as to what to blame on Jews and what not to blame on Jews. Nazbols on the other hand take those standards and throw them in the toilet, and consequently they tend to be quite ideologically dishonest to say the least.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:46, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Ukronazis oppose decommunization of Ukraine. No, wait. It would be a mistake to phrase it that way, but the reasoning is very telling. Ukronazis oppose people who publicly express support for Ukrainian decommunization, and will put your name on one of its many hitlists. It should be noted, these are NATOs prime defenders of Western civilization. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 19:08, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Why would Ukrainian Nazis oppose decommunization? Don't they associate Communism with Russia? If so, why would they oppose erasing all traces of the Soviet era from Ukrainian soil? Or are you referring to a different kind of Communism? What am I missing here?--Geopolitician (talk) 00:39, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

It's the twin anti-democratic, totalitarian mindset. They are enemies of democracy. While Nazis can win seats in the Rada from certain districts in Western Ukraine, overall across the country they get about 2.5% of the vote. So they use backstairs methods to get into the civil service, military, and security services.

Then you need to fully understand the level of corruption and violence common in Ukrainian society. Kolomoisky (and others) originally hired Nazi football hooligans to defend their businesses. Since 2014, local police deputize them to patrol the streets. So at its heart, communism and other forms of socialism believe in the use of coercion and force, not persuasion and the ballot box. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 01:20, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

As a functional society, Ukraine didn't have much of a criminal justice system prior to 2014, given the level of poverty , a limited tax base, and corruption. So while the central government relied on secret police and intimidation, local businesses hired goons (Nazi football hooligans had the best or worst, depending on perspective, reputation as street fighters). After 2014, these organized Nazi groups in the pay of local businessmen and oligarchs, were incorporated into the Ministry of Interior as the Territorial Defense; others like Kraken or Azov were incorporated into the Ministry of the Interior's 40,000 strong armed services.

So the territorial defense patrols the streets, rousting homeless Gypsie squatters and beating up shoplifters. In more recent years, they beat up Russian speakers for violating the central government's language laws. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 03:49, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

So Ukrainian Nazis oppose decommunization because they are anti-democratic totalitarians? Maybe in an alternate timeline where Communism and Fascism never diverged into separate distinct ideologies, but not in our timeline.

In our timeline Nazis generally support decommunization, because they want to replace Communism with Nazism. The only exceptions are Strasserists, who identify as Nazis but are Nazbols in all but name. And it's more than obvious that groups like the Azov Battalion are not Strasserists because Strasserists are generally pro-Russia.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:27, September 11, 2022 (EDT)

umm, I think Nazis are less ideological and just organized, violent killers. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 02:02, September 12, 2022 (EDT)

You seem to be referring to the "skinhead" types who identify as Nazis and admire Hitler solely because he was a racist, anti-Semitic mass murderer. Does the Azov Battalion fall in that category?--Geopolitician (talk) 14:13, September 13, 2022 (EDT)

It's how the Nazi movement was legitimized and gained traction in post-Obama Ukraine. Nazi football hooligans were recruited, hired, and trained into militias, originally by Jewish oligarchs, then officially incorporated into the post-Maidan Ministry of Interior.

We can say there are two types: (1) young skinheads, say teens into early 20s, who beat up people. They serve in the Territorial Defense. These groups are akin to the Sturmabteilung. (2) More serious vicious killers, say mostly mid 20s on up. These make up the Kraken group, C4, Pravy Sektor, Azov, Aidar, etc. These groups are akin to the Shutz Staffel.

Since February and the Russian incursion, the Territorial Defense has become much larger and more diverse, with men in their 30s and 40s on up, who signed up to avoid conscription into the regular army. A lot of these people are regular family men, and not really tainted by a corrupt ideology. Many were sent to the front lines in Donbas as cannon fodder and killed in artillery strikes, while regular Ministry of Defense AFU forces and Ministry of Interior Nazis groups were held back in reserve.

Since the fall of Azovstal, the Kraken group (based in Kharkiv) has replaced Azov as the most prominent. One of their main roles is to function like Red Army Commissars did during WWII, executing deserters and people who refuse to fight or attempt to surrender. Another role is reprisals against civilian "collaborators", which is ongoing in the recently acquired, predominantly ethnic Russian villages in Kharkiv Oblast right now.

The various groups have different names cause they originated in different localities. Azov, for example, originated in Lviv under a different name, and was relocated to Mariupol in 2015 to harass the local ethnic Russians. It then took its name from the Sea of Azov, but it is not indigenous to the area. They essentially held Mariupol as their feudal fiefdom since 2015, harassing the locals. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 14:58, September 13, 2022 (EDT)

So let's ask the question: Why did so many (though not exclusively) Jewish oligarch's employ Nazi skinheads and militias in the early 2010s? I can only speculate to one possible answer: cause they viewed Russia as their main enemy, particularly after Russia's entrance into the Syrian war. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 15:15, September 13, 2022 (EDT)

It's obvious that they view Russia as their main enemy, although the reason why they view Russia as their main enemy is up for debate. One theory that is often promoted by Nazbols and even some Nazis is that the Jewish oligarchs want revenge for the pogroms waged against their ancestors during the reigns of Alexander III and Nicholas II. Another theory that is often promoted by these same people is that the Jewish oligarchs want revenge for their counterparts in Russia itself being put in their place after Putin became President in 2000. And yet another theory often promoted by these same people is that Israel was the true mastermind behind the Syrian war, and that the Jewish oligarchs are acting on Israel's behalf to sabotage Russia's intervention in that conflict.

Out of those three theories, the last one is the closest to the truth. The Maidan coup was indeed orchestrated by those who wanted to sabotage Russia's intervention in Syria, but the actual mastermind was not Israel, but Barack Obama.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:52, September 14, 2022 (EDT)

Yah, I can agree with all of that at face value (without even getting into specifics, like Gonzalo Lira's 2 hour exposé on Victoria Nuland's hatred of Russia going back to her grandfather, or the case of U.S. tax cheat and UK citizen [[Bill Browder]], inspiration for the Magnitsky Act, the original Russia sanctions bill). Understanding the background, however, leaves out one important fluke that occurred during the Maidan coup; and that is the Crimean Annexation. While the coup was well thought out and orchestrated - without consultation from EU allies - Nuland, McCain, and other coup plotters evidently did not anticipate Putin's reaction by seizing the Crimea, which (1) was a colossal embarrassment for Obama, tarnished his reputation and legacy of his administration, and made hatred for Putin personal in the Obama cult; and (2) has shaped all events since the coup until now. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 17:51, September 14, 2022 (EDT)

I don't understand where you're going here. You say you agree with "all of that at face value", with the "that" consisting of three theories and a fourth theory which refutes the first three. If you think there's an element of truth to all four of those theories, can you explain what those elements of truth are?--Geopolitician (talk) 13:38, September 15, 2022 (EDT)

The first three all are soundly plausible and well-reasoned; the fourth is premature speculation. Like your railings against Saudi Arabia, you tend to attribute the actions of private individuals and a few oligarchs as government policy. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 14:54, September 15, 2022 (EDT)

In that case, I suppose you disagree with the part of the third theory which says the oligarchs are acting on Israel’ behalf, in the sense that they are Israeli agents and that Bibi Netanyahu was the true mastermind of the Maidan.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:40, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

Well, yah. We know who did it, Nuland & McCain. We know why. Obama's only culpable in that he wrote a blank check. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 15:50, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

Yep. We can go on and on about whether the state is responsible for the actions of powerful individuals in different cases. But in this one, and precisely for the reason you pointed out above, I think we can both agree what happened in Ukraine is the responsibility of state actors.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:31, September 17, 2022 (EDT)

Putin made Obama, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, look like a fool with the seizure of Crimea. US warmongers now want revenge for Putin tarnishing Obama's legacy. And it's hard to separate the original motives for the coup from their thirst for revenge. Things have proceeded along a much more hurried timetable ever since because of Putin's disruption of their original plan. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 18:05, September 14, 2022 (EDT)

I don't know if Obama expected Putin to retaliate by taking Crimea. What I do know is that (1) Obama isn't ideologically aligned with neocons like Nuland and McCain; but (2) Obama chose to ally with them anyway because he had a personal vendetta against Putin. Obama's pet project was the Arab Spring, which he hoped would lead to the rise of a Sunni Islamist caliphate. Yes the neocons wanted that too, but Obama's motivations had more to do with his general Islamophilia than with wanting to undermine Russia's national interests and national security. That being said, the turning point almost certainly was the "Red Line" incident in September 2013. After that, Obama was so hellbent on revenge that he probably would've gone through with the Maidan coup, neocons or no neocons.

Since then, the DNC establishment has been strongly allied with the neocons. They may not necessarily agree with the neocons ideologically, but their number one concern is getting revenge for Putin hurting their false messiah's massive ego.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:38, September 15, 2022 (EDT)

I think you see what I see: much anti-Putin and anti-Russian propaganda is less inspired by geopolitical realities than it is an emotional response to blaming Putin for Obama's biggest failures. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 14:54, September 15, 2022 (EDT)

They’re definitely acting out of emotion in response to Obama’s failures, although the specific failures they are reacting to vary.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:40, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

Dershowitz said the other day, "I was happy to vote for Obama in 2008, but I wish I could take it back in 2012 because of his disastrous foreign policy." The collapse of the American Empire, support for ISIS and Nazism is the 'change you can believe in'. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 15:44, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

This just posted to YouTube:

• Fast Forward to Fascism - Ukrainian nationalism in the making.

You need to watch this 27 min documentary now cause Youtube will attempt to remove it. From the blurb:

The nationalist movement in Ukraine didn’t just happen; it took years to build. It's been growing for years, nurtured by western curators and supported by western funds. By the beginning of the Maidan, an entire network of neo-nazi units had already been up and running in Ukraine, but the Ukrainian government didn’t prosecute them. Ready and able military and terrorist units dispersed and showed up at anti-Maidan meetings in Ukraine’s cities. The years 2019 and 2020 saw meetings and protests in Kiev demanding the denial of special status for the DNR and LNR breakaway regions.

One of its main goals was to form an ideology that would dehumanise Russians and break all ties that existed for decades before. Initially, Russians weren't seen as a minority in Ukraine, but the anti-Russian sentiment gradually became overwhelming. Nationalists have been taught how to lead a war on social media, eventually launching a guided communication battle against the Russian people.

Stepan Bandera was the head of the Ukrainian nationalist organisation in 1929. In 1934, the Gestapo accepted the Berlin chapter of the organisation — he organised terrorist acts, killing officials. In 1941, the Ukrainian nationalist organisation was responsible for the biggest Jewish pogrom in Lvov, killing about 7,000 people. Yet, in 2010, Stepan Bandera was pronounced a national hero, with torch-lit marches in his honour ever since.

RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 18:36, September 13, 2022 (EDT)

The Cook Political Report is the gold standard for forecasting Congressional races. For the midterms, they've got the House as 213 GOP, 190 Dem, and 32 tossups. The Senate is 48 Dem, 48 GOP, and four tossups. It all comes down to Arizona (Kelly v. Masters), Georgia (Warnock v. Walker), Nevada (Masto v. Laxalt), and Wisconsin (Johnson v. Barnes). The GOP will have to win three out of these four to gain control. PeterKa (talk) 22:18, September 5, 2022 (EDT)

Looks good. If the GOP wins the House, then it does not need to win the Senate too. The J6 Committee will be shut down.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 03:46, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

Based on inflation/recession, gas prices, crime, the border, the fiasco of an Afghanistan withdrawal and the underperformance of the public schools (especially during the pandemic), the Democrats should be trounced. Many people do vote with their pocketbook. I just hope the abortion wildcard doesn't cost the Republicans in some swing regions. It's a shame that America is still being affected by the libertine values of the sexual revolution. As time progresses, the conservatives will "outbreed" the liberals/leftists so they will have more voters. In addition, less Americans are willing to put their children in public schools where they are indoctrinated. Conservative (talk) 10:09, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

Politico: ‘Turnout is going to be through the roof’. So between the "Republicans are racists" mantra and overturning Roe, Dems are fired up for more targeted ballot box stuffing where needed.

In today's corrupt world, it would not be surprising to see a president with a 37% approval rating gain seats in the House. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 00:22, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Roll Call magazine: Biden on pace to buck history. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 16:04, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Roll Call`s argument is based on Biden's approval numbers. They've improved since July, but they nothing to brag about in historical terms. Obama's job approval was 41-54 in September 2014 compared to 42.5-54.5 for Biden now. So the RCP prediction of another 2014-style midterm is still doable. In 2014, Republicans won 247 seats for a 59 seat majority.

Here is the latest U.S. Senate forcast, 49 to 49 with Nevada and Georgia as tossups. The House is 218 GOP to 204 Dem. PeterKa (talk) 23:54, September 10, 2022 (EDT)

Atleast 10 died and 2 injuried due to mass stabbing in Saskatchewan in Canada who have strict gun control policies leading by Trudeau. Its pretty clear that recent mass killings is because mental health not guns Is Trudeau going to restrict knives next? --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:55, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

10 dead in stabbing attacks, some apparently random, in Saskatchewan|10 dead in stabbing attacks, some apparently random, in Saskatchewan --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:57, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

Speaking of Canada, just got this in inbox today:

• Celebrating Fascism and War Criminality in Edmonton. The Political Myth and Cult of Stepan Bandera in Multicultural Canada.

It's about the Ukrainian diaspora community in Edmonton, and it predates the 2014 Maidan coup when the Nazis came to power with the aid of the Obama administration. Ukrainian Nazis make up an important part of the Liberal Party and Trudeau coalition. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 00:16, September 7, 2022 (EDT

This will be etched in my mind forever - when the Queen died and the UK was mourning, CP was gloating over the Uk's economic hardships. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 14:20, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

I'm just noting the obvious. Much of Europe/UK became scoffers or indifferent to God. The Bible says, "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." (Galatians 6:7). "I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them." (Proverbs 1:26-32).

I don't see sackcloth and ashes yet in the UK/Europe. But I have seen a lot of gluttony and drunkeness. Maybe some cold winters and bad times will change that. Europe is headed for economic decline and being less economically relevant. Maybe that will humble them and sober them up. Sometimes people have to suffer a lot or hit rock bottom before they are willing to change. If some Europeans repent, God will welcome them. Conservative (talk) 20:07, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Actually, you're low balling the EU crisis. Energy costs will be 20% of disposable income. This will wipe out the European economies. If the European "right wing populists" don't stand up on their hind feet, toss out the globalists, and make peace with Putin very quickly, they are screwed. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:40, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

A walk down memory lane: Remember when the Queen and Phillip set Obama up to look like a fool? Watch Phillip smirking through the whole sordid affair. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:43, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

“I am the flail of God. Had you not created great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” - Genghis Khan

"I am the gas supplier attendant of God. You baited the Russian bear European NATO members by trying to expand NATO into Ukraine and now you will dearly pay the price." - Vladimir Putin

Putin has nothing to do with it. The EU refuses to buy the gas. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:49, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

I fixed it. Conservative (talk) 20:56, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Gotta love some of these headlines; 'Unbelievable shock' when somebody 96 years old dies. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 20:59, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Grammar question: "CNBC has bad news for the Europeans and the Ukrainians who are depending on them;" I read this to say, "CNBC has bad news for the Europeans and the Ukrainians who are depending on CNBC." RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 00:12, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

I just bought a slew of writing/grammar books. Part of my work requires me to be an editor. Right now, I am using the software Grammarly and ProWritingAid as crutches. There is so much I have to learn. I bought some books on accelerated learning and memory improvement so I can tackle 4-5 fields plus learn a few languages. Conservative (talk) 01:53, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

Unfortunely, I forgot everything I learned about grammar back in 6th grade when we had to diagram sentences, so I don't even know what to call that. But it's a common mistake. I only caught it cause I had to learn from memory to avoid it. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 02:27, September 9, 2022 (EDT)

Rod Dreher: Charles is a conservative, but a different kind of conservative

An interesting take from Rod Dreher of The American Conservative.

"The heir to one of the world’s oldest monarchies, a traditionalist? You don’t say. But Charles’s traditionalism is far from the stuffy, bland, institutional conservatism typical of a man of his rank. Charles, in fact, is a philosophical traditionalist, which is a rather more radical position to hold."

"He is an anti-modernist to the marrow, which doesn’t always put him onside with the Conservative Party. Charles’s support for organic agriculture and other green causes, his sympathetic view of Islam, and his disdain for liberal economic thinking have earned him skepticism from some on the British right. (“Is Prince Charles ill-advised, or merely idiotic?” the Tory libertarian writer James Delingpole once asked in print.) And some Tories fear that the prince’s unusually forceful advocacy endangers the most traditional British institution of all: the monarchy itself."

"Others, though, see in Charles a visionary of the cultural right, one whose worldview is far broader, historically and otherwise, than those of his contemporaries on either side of the political spectrum. In this reading, Charles’s thinking is not determined by post-Enlightenment categories but rather draws on older ways of seeing and understanding that conservatives ought to recover. “All in all, the criticisms of Prince Charles from self-styled ‘Tories’ show just how little they understand about the philosophy they claim to represent,” says the conservative philosopher Roger Scruton."

"Scruton’s observation highlights a fault line bisecting latter-day Anglo-American conservatism: the philosophical split between traditionalists and libertarians. In this way, what you think of the Prince of Wales reveals whether you think conservatism, to paraphrase the historian George H. Nash, is essentially about the rights of individuals to be what they want to be or the duties of individuals to be what they ought to be."--Geopolitician (talk) 23:28, September 8, 2022 (EDT)

Turley was on with Alex Christoforou and Alexander Mercouris today. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 21:46, September 8, 2022 (EDT)