Talk:Warren G. Harding

How could this marvellous article have omitted to include a family-friendly description of the zany, madcap antics engaged in by Nan Britton and "Mr. Harding" in the White House coat closet, amongst the galoshes? Note: irony. Dpbsmith 20:30, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

even wikipedia admits harding was innocent here: "Warren G. Harding was not, directly, personally or otherwise, aware of the scandal. At the time of his death in 1923 he was just beginning to learn of problems deriving from the actions of his appointee". I think you expose your Liberal bias. Richard 21:16, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Uh, Nan Britton was associated with a different scandal, not Teapot Dome. She was... how to say this... the Monica Lewinsky of the Roaring Twenties. Dpbsmith 21:34, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

says harding's critics and the MSM. There is no unbiased source to substantiate that Richard 21:37, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Ummm....Teapot Dome, anybody? Biggest scandal ever in an administration? --Dave3172 20:31, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

if you haven't noticed, the article is one big stupid joke... Splark 20:33, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

What makes you say this is a joke?--Aschlafly 20:39, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

"Mr. Harding's unassailable character was an exemplary example for all Americans" Keep in mind all of his scandals, extramarital affairs, and everything else that was omitted (including his admission to be not mentally up to the job). I think you're being tricked by a liberal smart-aleck. Splark 20:43, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

And do you have unbiased sources that actually substantiate those claims? This is just like McCarthy, who has been proven right by history. Richard 21:06, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Note that the article is referenced. If you feel other material that is sufficiently factual and ideologically compatible then please add it rather than engaging in ad hominem attacks against my character (calling me a liberal) Richard 21:09, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Splark, with all due respect, I think you've been duped by liberal history books. Harding was one of the most conservative presidents and was maligned by liberals because he was conservative. Do you buy everything the media says about other conservatives, such as Anita Bryant?--Aschlafly 21:47, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

With all due respect to you, Aschlafly, Warren Harding did say "I am not fit for this office and never should have been here." (http://www.trivia-library.com/b/u-s-president-warren-g-harding-quotes-from-and-about-harding.htm). Also, the article does not even include the Teapot Dome scandal, where Harding secretly leased naval oil-reserve lands to private companies. (http://ap.grolier.com/article?assetid=0380900-00). While the media is quite biased against Harding, the article should at least include the Teapot Dome scandal and his two extramarital affairs (http://americanhistory.about.com/od/warrengharding/p/pHarding.htm) I know this site is biased, but the facts remain. -Splark 22:01, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

I agree that the teapot dome issue should be handled. I'm researching it. Patience, the article didn't exist until today. Granted the teapot issue looks rather small compared to whitewater or other incidents and seems more appropriate for an article on the secretary of the interior than Mr. Harding, but it did bother him and happened on his watch so it should be at least mentioned. As for the quote, I've no idea where, when or if he actually said that. The affairs cannot be substantiated even wikipedia treats them skeptically and Britton seems to be a scurrilous character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Harding#Extramarital_affairs). Let's fill out the article but not be mislead by period and later liberal biases and innuendo. Richard 22:25, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

League of Nations

I disagree with the removal of the league of nations paragraph. It is true that the senate did not ratify the treaty under Wilson but part of the Harding landslide was that he promised to keep us out and the American people rejected Wilson's internationalist policies. In context of the presidency Harding was a key figure in keeping us out of the League. Had we avoided the Truman period we might have dodged the United Nations bullet as well. Richard 22:58, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

I disagree. The Senate was already on record as opposing the League. Harding's assumption of the Presidency did nothing to enhance or reduce that. --Dave3172 23:00, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Avoiding the League had nothing to do with not entering the Spanish Revolution or the beginnings of WW2, especially WW2 since the League was for all intents defunct by 1939. Even had we joined, we'd have avoided either conflict. --Dave3172 23:04, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

One of the reasons that the league went defunct was America refused to join it. Obviously it would have lasted longer and we'd have been involved in many conflicts sooner had we gotten involved. The United Nations proves that. Richard 23:06, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

You are making an assumption that cannot be supported by the facts. US involvement in the League wouldn't have led to involvement in Spain. Neither France nor the UK got heavily involved though both were League members. One of the two countries that did (Germany) left the League.

And the WW2 contention is just not correct. By war's beginning the league was a joke. The war began due to occurences outside the League's influence. --Dave3172 23:14, 12 March 2007 (EDT)