Conservapedia talk:90/10 rule

Vote

Support

Sure. Can I point out, too, that we should also enforce the gun laws-- er, rules we already have? Flippin 14:50, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Oppose

1. --ColinR^talk 12:28, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
   • I incorporated two of your ideas after you voted. --Ed Poor 12:33, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
2. I find it ironic that i'm voting against this on a talk page ... Jrssr5 13:02, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
3. Oppose. It doesn't actually harm CP to use talk pages, and this rule will encourage people to just edit away without discussing. Oh, and Jrssr5 has a point ... --Wikinterpreter^talk?
4. --Mtur 14:48, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Comment

While I recognize the good intention behind this rule, it's hard to correctly use it. After all, an editor could make mostly worthless edits, cause problems on talk pages, and yet not violate the 90/10 rule. Or an editor could work really hard on one or two amazing articles, engage in a lot of discussion on talk pages about improving said articles, get in a small squabble with a sysop, and get blocked for 90/10 violation. If we're going to be blocking "dissidents" for too much "talk page use," we need to base our blocks on more than just the number of edits. ColinR^talk 12:28, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

This rule is just an excuse to stifle criticism. Auld Nick 12:26, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Nick, that's not true! (blocks your account ;-) --Ed Poor 12:29, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Even with the recent changes, I still oppose the rule. I think if something is to be done for commenting on talk pages too much, it should be a simple warning, "hey buddy, quit jabbering so much and start contributing." If that doesn't work, and they still only engage in useless arguments, block them for no more than a week. I still don't like the idea of warning/blocking them, but I know it's going to happen regardless. ColinR^talk 12:39, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

The 90/10 rule does not differentiate individuals who are waisting time from those who are attempting to build or understand a consensus prior to making an edit. Ideally, talk pages serve to avoid edit wars on the main pages. Additionally, the 90/10 rule suggests that dozens of small edits (example) would artificially boost one's "factual edit" count without actually making worthwhile contributions by editing one word here and one word there. In essence it becomes trivial for anyone who knows of the rule to game the system and penalizes those who are trying to find the consensus before editing. (Side note: I had to go back and edit the entire page rather than the section to avoid having two edits here - one for the vote, one for the comment. Otherwise, it would damage my ratio more than a single edit.) --Mtur 14:48, 24 April 2007 (EDT)