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:I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:47, December 18, 2025 (EST) | :I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:47, December 18, 2025 (EST) | ||
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| + | ===User:Conservative added [[Heil Hitler]] to his user page=== | ||
| + | [[File:1538852447 zagolovok.jpg|center|650px|thumb|[[Ukrainian nationalist]]s welcome [[Nazi]]s, 1941.<br>''Above in the [[Latin]] alphabet'': [[Heil Hitler]]! ''Below in the [[Cyrillic]] alphabet the salute in the collaborationist [[UPA]]'': Glory to the Heroes! - Slave Ukraini!]] | ||
| + | [[User:Conservative ]] added [[Slava Ukraine|Heil Hitler]] to his user page. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&curid=180781&diff=2162492&oldid=2162491] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.[[User:LT]] was just blocked infinitely for the same [[malicious]] intent. | ||
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| + | He was told years ago about the [[Ukrainian Nationalist]] salute. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=7f9ef5536dff44b6e2ca9eedfe237381%2B%5C] For this reason he's been [[Topic ban]]ned from international politics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT) | ||
| + | :Untrue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:41, September 27, 2025 (EDT) | ||
| + | ::It is true. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative&action=rollback&from=Conservative&token=7f9ef5536dff44b6e2ca9eedfe237381%2B%5C] [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/LT User:LT was blocked infinitely] for the same [[malice|malicious intent]]. | ||
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| + | ::Need the timeline? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:48, September 27, 2025 (EDT) | ||
| + | ::[[User:Conservative]] and I personally discussed this exact terminology more than 3 years ago, both on the [[wiki]] and on the phone. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/9ttm23dLLNbU/ Watch what happens when the NATO-backed soldier gives the official Nazi greeting, "Slava Ukraine" (Heil Hitler)]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 18:49, October 5, 2025 (EDT) | ||
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| + | Andy, this just appeared on my autofeed on my phone: [https://paw.princeton.edu/article/moment-andrew-schlafly-81-conservapedia A moment with ... Andrew Schlafly '81, on 'Conservapedia'] paw.princeton.edu | ||
| + | Andy Schlafly: "[[Conservatism]] is an approach that adheres to [[original intent]] in interpreting older documents..." | ||
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| + | To say the documented [[original intent]] of Russian, Ukrainian, and other [[Eastern European]] [[society|societies]] about the original meaning and current usage of [[Slava Ukraine]] in schools, academia, [[culture]]s and current usage is "far fetched" makes one sound like a [[liberal]] Supreme Court Justice. | ||
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| + | Here's the thing about [[original intent]]: to understand original intent, one must ''unlearn'' many inbuilt [[bias]]es and re-definitions accumulated over time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 14:26, November 21, 2025 (EST) | ||
| + | [[File:Slava Ukraine.PNG|center|850px|thumb|August 16, 2018.]] | ||
| + | {{Cquote|In the mythology of Ukraine, along with the myths about the "great past", there are legends aimed at distorting the truth about the shameful pages of the formation of the ukronacist ideology. A vivid example of this is the desire to hide and whitewash the Nazi essence of the slogan "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!"|||[https://en.topwar.ru/147996-mify-o-proishozhdenii-ukrainy-i-ukraincev-mif-9-slava-ukraine-gerojam-slava-heil-hitler-sieg-heil.html Myths about the origin of Ukraine and the Ukrainians. Myth 9. "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!"], October 8, 2018,}} | ||
| + | :Link to [[Ukrainian Nationalist]] directly. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:40, September 27, 2025 (EDT) | ||
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| + | :Note: None of this is new to [[User:Conservative]]. It was presented to him in detail in the spring 2022, where he changed his mind and admitted to the [[fact]] that [[Nazi]]s served under [[Zelensky]]. His actions have been [[malicious]], targeting specific users with offensive postings, and deserve the same treatment [[User:LT]] got. | ||
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| + | I have [[Topic ban]]ned [[User:Conservative]] in the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative&diff=2162721&oldid=2162715 area of international affairs] for 6 months for repeated violations and [[trolling]]. It is his second offense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 22:39, September 27, 2025 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ===Should Conservapedia allow [[User:Conservative]] to create [[Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine]]?=== | ||
| + | [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AAFD_Essay%3ARussian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine&diff=1990335&oldid=1990334] | ||
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| + | Or should [[Conservapedia]] have written, enforceable [[community standards]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 16:51, December 18, 2025
Just keep in mind Conservapedia's unofficial, enforced policy:
RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:06, December 4, 2025 (EST)
This statement (which I've heard a thousand times from the same source):
- True conservatives don't believe in the very liberal concept of hate crimes! Conservative (talk) 18:59, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
is very similar to transgender ideology: you can deny reality, and create your own reality by belief. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:25, December 4, 2025 (EST)
- Summary: "Many American conservatives oppose hate crime laws primarily because they view them as violating principles of equal justice under the law, punishing thought or motive rather than action alone, risking inconsistent or politicized enforcement, and potentially infringing on free speech—preferring instead that all violent crimes be prosecuted equally regardless of bias motivation."
- I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 11:47, December 18, 2025 (EST)
User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page
Above in the Latin alphabet: Heil Hitler! Below in the Cyrillic alphabet the salute in the collaborationist UPA: Glory to the Heroes! - Slave Ukraini!
User:Conservative added Heil Hitler to his user page. [1] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 When called out for it he deleted it.User:LT was just blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent.
He was told years ago about the Ukrainian Nationalist salute. [2] For this reason he's been Topic banned from international politics. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
- Untrue. Conservative (talk) 18:41, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
- It is true. [3] User:LT was blocked infinitely for the same malicious intent.
- Need the timeline? RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:48, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
- User:Conservative and I personally discussed this exact terminology more than 3 years ago, both on the wiki and on the phone. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:08, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
Andy, this just appeared on my autofeed on my phone: A moment with ... Andrew Schlafly '81, on 'Conservapedia' paw.princeton.edu Andy Schlafly: "Conservatism is an approach that adheres to original intent in interpreting older documents..."
To say the documented original intent of Russian, Ukrainian, and other Eastern European societies about the original meaning and current usage of Slava Ukraine in schools, academia, cultures and current usage is "far fetched" makes one sound like a liberal Supreme Court Justice.
Here's the thing about original intent: to understand original intent, one must unlearn many inbuilt biases and re-definitions accumulated over time. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:26, November 21, 2025 (EST)
| “ | In the mythology of Ukraine, along with the myths about the "great past", there are legends aimed at distorting the truth about the shameful pages of the formation of the ukronacist ideology. A vivid example of this is the desire to hide and whitewash the Nazi essence of the slogan "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!" | ” |
—Myths about the origin of Ukraine and the Ukrainians. Myth 9. "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to heroes!", October 8, 2018, | ||
- Link to Ukrainian Nationalist directly. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:40, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
- Note: None of this is new to User:Conservative. It was presented to him in detail in the spring 2022, where he changed his mind and admitted to the fact that Nazis served under Zelensky. His actions have been malicious, targeting specific users with offensive postings, and deserve the same treatment User:LT got.
I have Topic banned User:Conservative in the area of international affairs for 6 months for repeated violations and trolling. It is his second offense. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:39, September 27, 2025 (EDT)
Should Conservapedia allow User:Conservative to create Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine?
Or should Conservapedia have written, enforceable community standards? RobSRecovering Republican 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)