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'''Matthew Shepard''' (1976-1998) was an American college student from [[Wyoming]].  On October 7th, 1998, he was savagely beaten and robbed by two men, and died on October 12th.  The killers were heavily involved in drugs and had met Shepard in a bar, giving him a ride afterwards. 
  
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[[Homosexual]] activists and the liberal media converted this drug-related killing <ref>Ben Fritzen, a former police detective, said, "Matthew Shepard's sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn't the motive in the homicide... What it came down to, really, is drugs and money." [http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070810/EDITORIAL/108100014/1013/editorial Washington Times Editorial] 8/10/2007 </ref> into a [[hate crime]] even though the prosecution never described the killing as a hate crime.<ref name="courttv">http://www.courttv.com/archive/trials/mckinney/110399_verdict_ctv.html</ref>
  
It stinks, man because nobody talks to me, man. So, why don't you. Man. --[[User:Rocky|Rocky]]
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* McKinney's girlfriend, Kristen Price, said, "I knew that night it was all about getting money... Money to get drugs." McKinney himself, talking for the first time (he did not testify at his trial), told ABC's Elizabeth Vargas that "it wasn't a hate crime... [A]ll I wanted to do was beat him up and rob him." In fact, McKinney said, "I have gay friends. ... You know, that kind of thing don't bother me so much."<ref>[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/aug/10/reject-the-hate-crimes-bill/ Reject the 'hate crimes' bill]</ref>
  
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A book published in 2013 reports:
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*A former lover of Shepard’s confirms that Shepard and McKinney had sex while doing drugs in the back of a limo
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*Another subject, Elaine Baker, tells Jimenez that Shepard and McKinney were friends who had been in sexual threesome with O’Connor<ref> [http://www.advocate.com/print-issue/current-issue/2013/09/13/have-we-got-matthew-shepard-all-wrong?page=full Have We Got Matthew Shepard All Wrong?
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A new book argues that America’s most notorious hate crime was not a hate crime at all.]</ref>
  
I was being sarcasticIt seems funny that Conservapedia would use Fox News as a source for science reporting since Fox reports on evolution like it really happened. [[User:MAnderson|MAnderson]] 17:11, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
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Activists claimed even before the details of the crime were known that the murder was due to anti-gay biasOnce the crime was discovered, Shepard's friends "were calling the County Attorney's office, they were calling the media and indicating Matthew Shepard is gay and we don't want the fact that he is gay to go unnoticed."<ref name="20/20" />
  
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A misguided defense of one of the killers tried to make an issue of Shepard's [[homosexuality]] in order to employ a "gay panic defense" based upon the defendant's alleged prior homosexual experiences, but this was rejected by the judge.<ref name="courttv"/> In fact, at least one of Shepard's killers claimed in an interview on ABC's "20/20" that money and drugs motivated their actions that night, not hatred of gays.<ref name="20/20">[http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=277685&page=1 20/20 News Story on Matthew Shepard]</ref> One of the girlfriends of the accused testified that they had planned to pretend to be homosexuals so that they could rob Shepard.<ref name="courttv"/>
  
Hi, I hope you don't mind but I did a quick spell check of your essay. I know you requested users did not edit it and instead discussed it on the talk page, but I've made sure that content was not changed beyond a few letters. Happy editing [[User:StatsMsn|StatsMsn]] 07:43, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
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Ever since Shepard's death it has been cited by homosexual activists to promote legislation to classify attacks motivated by the sexual orientation of the victim as [[hate crime]] that would be punished more severely than were it performed for other reasons. All legislation, both in Wyoming and on the national level, had previously failed, but Congress passed a hate crime bill which was signed into law in October, 2009. It is the "Matthew Shepard & James Byrd Hate Crimes Prevention Act."
:::Thanks, man. I am terrible at spelling. Really apprechiate (probabily spelt that wrong) the edits. --[[User:Rocky|Rocky]]
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== Rocky Horror ==
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*[http://homes.thedailycamera.com/extra/shepard/ Matthew Shepard Murder] The Daily Camera.
  
I was a bit puzzled by your message, but then I went and checked my edit history.  That's actually not my article.  I simply redirected an erroneous title to the correct one (which I shouldn't have done since it's against CP's guidelines). [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)<br />
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Oh, I see. Well, I still changed it, if you want to see it. Yeah. Wow, it is harder to think up something to say now than it was when I had to write that essay for English. Anyway, thanks for telling me. --[[User:Rocky|Rocky]]
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== Debates ==
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Rocky,
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Shepard, Matthew}}
  
If you want to start a debate, then please do the following:
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* Title it "Debate: <title of debate>".  You will note that DanH has moved [[Is atheism a religion]] and [[Should gay marrage be allowed?]] to [[Debate:Is atheism a religion]] and [[Debate:Should gay marriage be allowed?]] respectively.
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* Start the debates.  Don't just create a page for ''others'' to debate (they are quite capable of doing that themselves), but put forward your own views so that people have something to agree or disagree with.  (And don't just give your opinion, but provide an argument.)
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I'll leave those pages there for another day or so, but if you don't put your own views there by then, I'll delete those pages.
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I realise you're still new to all this, so don't take this as telling you off; just giving you some guidance.
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:36, 28 April 2008 (EDT)<br />
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Philip,
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Don't worry, you did not sound like you were telling me off. I put in the debates my own opinion. You can access the one about athisim [[Debate:Is atheism a religion|here]] and the one about homosexual marrage [[Debate:Should gay marrage be allowed?|here]]. Thank you for telling me that. I was wondering why nobody was responding. Thank you, again. --[[User:Rocky|Rocky]]
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I believe that Bush is a good president in most aspects. I don't use the e-mail thing. sorry... [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 09:51, 30 April 2008 (EDT)<br />
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:That's cool with the email thing. What aspects do you think that he is good with? --[[User:Rocky]]
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I would suggest that you use Firefox as your browser and install the spell-checker. It would appear that you are in need of some assistance.  (I'm trying to put this as nicely as I can.)  [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 18:48, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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If what you included was real information, then cite it; otherwise, it will be removed as possible libel.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:55, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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Revision as of 03:57, September 16, 2013

Matthew Shepard (1976-1998) was an American college student from Wyoming. On October 7th, 1998, he was savagely beaten and robbed by two men, and died on October 12th. The killers were heavily involved in drugs and had met Shepard in a bar, giving him a ride afterwards.

Homosexual activists and the liberal media converted this drug-related killing [1] into a hate crime even though the prosecution never described the killing as a hate crime.[2]

  • McKinney's girlfriend, Kristen Price, said, "I knew that night it was all about getting money... Money to get drugs." McKinney himself, talking for the first time (he did not testify at his trial), told ABC's Elizabeth Vargas that "it wasn't a hate crime... [A]ll I wanted to do was beat him up and rob him." In fact, McKinney said, "I have gay friends. ... You know, that kind of thing don't bother me so much."[3]

A book published in 2013 reports:

  • A former lover of Shepard’s confirms that Shepard and McKinney had sex while doing drugs in the back of a limo
  • Another subject, Elaine Baker, tells Jimenez that Shepard and McKinney were friends who had been in sexual threesome with O’Connor[4]

Activists claimed even before the details of the crime were known that the murder was due to anti-gay bias. Once the crime was discovered, Shepard's friends "were calling the County Attorney's office, they were calling the media and indicating Matthew Shepard is gay and we don't want the fact that he is gay to go unnoticed."[5]

A misguided defense of one of the killers tried to make an issue of Shepard's homosexuality in order to employ a "gay panic defense" based upon the defendant's alleged prior homosexual experiences, but this was rejected by the judge.[2] In fact, at least one of Shepard's killers claimed in an interview on ABC's "20/20" that money and drugs motivated their actions that night, not hatred of gays.[5] One of the girlfriends of the accused testified that they had planned to pretend to be homosexuals so that they could rob Shepard.[2]

Ever since Shepard's death it has been cited by homosexual activists to promote legislation to classify attacks motivated by the sexual orientation of the victim as hate crime that would be punished more severely than were it performed for other reasons. All legislation, both in Wyoming and on the national level, had previously failed, but Congress passed a hate crime bill which was signed into law in October, 2009. It is the "Matthew Shepard & James Byrd Hate Crimes Prevention Act."

External links

References

  1. Ben Fritzen, a former police detective, said, "Matthew Shepard's sexual preference or sexual orientation certainly wasn't the motive in the homicide... What it came down to, really, is drugs and money." Washington Times Editorial 8/10/2007
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 http://www.courttv.com/archive/trials/mckinney/110399_verdict_ctv.html
  3. Reject the 'hate crimes' bill
  4. [http://www.advocate.com/print-issue/current-issue/2013/09/13/have-we-got-matthew-shepard-all-wrong?page=full Have We Got Matthew Shepard All Wrong? A new book argues that America’s most notorious hate crime was not a hate crime at all.]
  5. 5.0 5.1 20/20 News Story on Matthew Shepard