Talk:Todd Akin

Nothing in Akin's comment suggests he wanted to distinguish between "legitimate" rape and false accusations of rape.--Jukebox

The context of the remark, as well as common sense, demonstrate that meaning. No other meaning is plausible.--Andy Schlafly 14:15, 22 August 2012 (EDT)

I suspect that a large part of what has worked so many people up is his idea that the female body has ways of shutting down a pregnancy due to rape. --Bogart 12 15:22, 22 August 2012

Akin's comment was “It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare...If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.” I don't think he would need a doctor to explain that someone who wasn't raped won't get pregnant and that still doesn't address the problem that he seems to think that women can somehow stop pregnancy during rape, which is what the controversy is about. Why not just focus on his concern about the child and the mother as the victims? Half his comment is brilliant and the rest just a mistake. --Jukebox

Why were my comments deleted?--PatMc 10:29, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

I think there has been a major issue with the database. Everything between last night and a few minutes ago seems to have disappeared. It's not just your comments. Davidspencer 11:03, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

On August 23, I noted here that there are two separate aspects to this article - his campaign and the media reaction to his remarks. I believe that the article should cover both aspects. So, I expanded the article. My changes were lost in the data base problems, so I have readded them. I kept all subsequent changes to the media discussion section. Please feel free to edit further, but I find it a bit frustrating to have so much hard work lost due to technical glitches. Thanks, Wschact 22:23, 25 August 2012 (EDT)

I revised your additions, prioritizing the principled conservative positions and downgrading the less thoughtful comments by left-leaning politicians.--Andy Schlafly 22:56, 25 August 2012 (EDT)

Did a doctor tell him that the female body has ways of "shutting the whole thing down" or just tell him "it's really rare" and just make assumptions (based on that comment) about the biological shut down? --Dsherman 13:07, 19 November 2013 (EST)

I think a doctor did tell Congressman Akin that the body typically goes into shock when victimized by rape, and that this reduces the likelihood of pregnancy--Aschlafly 14:22, 19 November 2013 (EST).

Hopfully it was a doctor that had a medical degree.--Dsherman 19:48, 19 November 2013 (EST)

Akin.

I agree with Palin on this one. There is no such thing as legitimate rape; that implies that both of the people involved went into it willingly. And Akin is losing in his own state by ten points. At this point, I think that Akin is either trying to lose or being incompetent. We cannot have incompetent men in the governing body of this country. Akin must go. Also, he himself has admitted that he is totally wrong. Why are you making excuses for Akin that Akin is not even making for himself?

Akin's proper, intended meaning of the phrase was clear from the context, even to people who (like Palin) opposed him before he made the remark.

And Akin did not admit he was totally wrong in his principles. Quite the contrary, he has withstood the media bullying.--Andy Schlafly 21:01, 28 August 2012 (EDT)