Talk:Seung-Hui Cho

We should probably mention (somewhere) that Chinese, Japanese and Korean names go in [family, given] order. So that "Mr. Cho" is would be called Seung-Hui by his parents or close friends (not this this kid had any close friends, but ...) --Ed Poor 19:50, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

For the purposes of the article, I believe the (first, last) combination will be searched much more, and as the Anglicized version, can stand to stay on Conservapedia. I don't have a grasp of east Asian languages, though. --Hojimachong^talk 19:53, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

I think it should go back to Seung-Hui Cho, given that the source cited, and most of the news, calls him that. ColinR^talk 19:55, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

What news are you looking at, Colin? I've only seen Cho Seung-Hui on CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and the Today show :/. --Hojimachong^talk 19:56, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Look at the source the article cites. ColinR^talk 20:02, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Either way, a redirect can be set up. DanH 19:56, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

32 fellow students?

I think at least one of the casualties was a professor, if not more. DanH 20:06, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Fixed. You're right, Dan, one was an Israeli-American. --Hojimachong^talk 20:08, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

New article?

Perhaps one article on the shooting qua the shooting - with timelines, victims, etc, and this one on the human-piece-of-crap (sorry, a little editorialisation there) that did it? Jacobin 23:23, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

Overlooked?

They have been trying to get stricter gun laws in Virginia, as they don't keep records on bought shotguns, rifles or private handguns. And they don't check the amount of guns bought against recent crime waves. But Bush vetoed the decision.

Funny this doesn't seem to be widely known.

Other mass murderers

This case reminds me of Gavin de Becker's account of the postal worker who (the media said) "suddenly" went besersk and "without warning" killed several co-workers. The media account was wrong, of course. The postal worker had shown anti-social signs for years before the incident. But everyone was afraid of the legal repercussions of dismissing him. I'll have to look it up, I have the book in a box somewhere. --Ed Poor 09:39, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

The sad truth is that hind sight is 20-20. It's nearly impossible to tell the difference between a potential psycho and a harmless crank until it's too late. Czolgolz 09:42, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Gavin de Becker disagrees with you.

• Attackers do not “just snap,” but progress from forming an idea, to planning an attack, to gathering weapons. This process can happen quickly, but sometimes the planning or gathering weapons are discoverable. See Mosaic threat assessment method. --Ed Poor 10:59, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Removal of some details

I thought those details were useful, why did you get rid of all that? Flippin 09:40, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Tell me what purpose they serve. Do they explain why he did it? Do they show a pattern, or an indication of a larger problem? This is not Eyewitness News ("details at ten!"), and we do not need to generate an audience. --Ed Poor 09:47, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Disagree--people come here for encyclopedic content. Details are encyclopedic. Why remove any of his personal history or the details surrounding his crime? Further, if this topic were less-vulgar, we would make sure to stuff the page with detail (I assume). Why not continue that practice here? Flippin 09:50, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

I'd love to see some more information about his personal history, especially anything that would shed light on why he would hurt himself or others. As for the crimes he committed in Virginia, perhaps on article on the day's events would be good to start. Shall we call it Virginia Tech shootings? --Ed Poor 09:52, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Agreed. Thanks Flippin 09:53, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Signs of disturbance

he had been communicating with via instant messenger under the pseudonym Question Mark.

Didn't he sign a questionnaire with just a question mark? --Ed Poor 14:50, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Christain

where does the NPR article mention his religious affiliation?Bohdan

Zealot

Not in the article but the front page. I'm wondering if Zealot is actually the word for him. I'm not even disputing anti-christian (although I will point out that he killed at least one jew, which I would read as him being sort of indiscriminate) but since it was his own religion even that seems more anti-self, like alot of his morbid writings. Also... don't Zealots... I dunno, talk to people? Aren't they kind of known for not being able to shut up? My thesaurus has Advocate, Drumbeater, Dogmatist... just saying that word doesnt really describe him accurately. --RexMundane 11:02, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Cause of Massacre?

Commandment No.1 Everything you post must be true and verifiable. and No.2 Do not post personal opinion on an encyclopedia entry This article contains the sentense The massacre was evidently caused by the killer's intensely anti-Christian, and perhaps anti-American, views. The source gives no reason for the massacre. The above contravenes Conservapedia:Commandments. When is the Trustwothy Encyclopedia going to get trustworthy? WhatIsG0ing0n 06:58, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

Wiki collaboration

I just now read every word of every edit made to our Seung-Hui Cho article. With the exception of a few reverts, every edit was constructive and brought the article closer to "being good". I consider it an honor to have had the chance to collaborate with Mr. Schlafly and also enjoyed working with Dan (aka MountainDew) and Jaques. --User:Ed Poor 12:34, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

I trimmed and tweaked a bit, because this is an article that has been accessed 2,323 times. Let's be extra careful with popular pages. --Ed Poor 11:53, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Bill Buckley

Who is he? and why should we care what he thinks? If we get into cherrypicking op-ed pieces we are going to end up with a very long article full of soundbites. --Cgday 06:11, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

Re-Added Category:Gun Free Zones Removed by User:IHop

I re-added the Category : Gun Free Zones since the young mass murderers who are the proof of the failure of the liberal unicorn Pollyanna fantasy called gun free zones are most definitely part of the category Category : Gun Free Zones. TheAmericanRedoubt 11:55, 22 January 2015 (EST)

See, while I agree that VT is a gun free zone, I do not agree that everyone ever tangentially connected with one is part of the category. Seung-Hui Cho enacted his mass murder in the gun free zone, not because of it.

1 day ban for trolling. "Lots of excellent wikis have an abundant amount of category tags at the bottom of their articles. Please don't pick fights with other editors over category tags - especially when the category is not a very broad category." See Conservapedia:Manual_of_Style#Categories. "My request to other editors, please do not be persnickety with TheAmericanRedoubt about the category tags. He promised to do better on the category tags and now sees how he has been overdoing it. Conservative 13:38, 14 January 2015 (EST)" See Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Category_tag_compromise_and_TheAmericanRedoubt

TheAmericanRedoubt 12:40, 22 January 2015 (EST)