Talk:Router (computing)

To me a router is, and has been for decades, a woodworking machine that shapes, hollows, bevels and wot-all, pieces of wood to turn them from what they were - um - pieces of wood - into things of beauty or utility or - hopefully - both. I have three of them and 50+ bits. If you're good enough, you can work magic with a router. I made a living for twenty odd years using them.

I have no doubt that UserTAR could turn this lovely noisy little machine into a suitable "See Also". AlanE 20:52, 10 December 2014 (EST)

No. Obviously he couldn't. Or won't. AlanE (talk) 23:51, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Perhaps we should move this content to a new name? If so, any thoughts on what it should be? "Network router?" "Router (electronic)?"--David B (talk) 11:10, 16 February 2016 (EST) By the way, AlanE, TAR did paste his See Also link block on this page. I removed most or all of them ( I don't remember exactly). See the edit log for details.--David B (talk) 11:12, 16 February 2016 (EST)

I implemented a solution. Conservative (talk) 11:34, 16 February 2016 (EST)

Thanks!--David B (talk) 11:39, 16 February 2016 (EST)

Thanks Cons! Give me a day or to and I will do something. Please be advised that some of what I write will be from personal experience and therefore open to Markmanlike criticism. AlanE (talk) 23:57, 16 February 2016 (EST)

Markman? Do you mean the Markman who, after being blocked for being a parodist, told me in private email that his goal all along had been to damage Conservapedia? And who wanted me to help him get his account restored? Which I of course refused? The one who said that he treats Conservapedia, and in fact all websites, as just "video games" in which the goal is simply to do as much damage as possible to as many people as possible? That Markman? SamHB (talk) 01:54, 17 February 2016 (EST)

SamHB, evangelical Christianity teaches the depravity of man and the need for being born again through Jesus Christ and being transformed by the power of the Spirit. Consider Markman as being one additional data point confirming the depravity of man and the existence of evil! If memory serve (and it may not), Markman was from the godless UK. Conservative (talk) 10:03, 17 February 2016 (EST)

Yes Sam. That Markman. Pinhas himself. (Appropriately named, don't you think?

And Cons - seeing as you have elbowed your belief in Britain's "godlessness" into the conversation - can I ask that if about 70% of a nation's population either believes in God or in some sort spiritual entity, (your figures mate, not mine) can that nation be considered "godless"?

AlanE, a Eurobarometer poll in 2010 reported that 37% of UK citizens "believed there is a God", 33% believe there is "some sort of spirit or life force" and 25% answered "I don't believe there is any sort of spirit, God or life force".[1]. See also: British atheism. Godlessness has doomed Britain, Rabbi Boteach - Jerusalem Post. I hope this helps clarify things. :)Conservative (talk) 23:48, 17 February 2016 (EST)

Yes Cons, it has indeed "clarified things". It clarifies the fact that you have to either believe that only 25% of Brits are godless (your figures) or that Rabbi Boteach is right (your wish). Even if you ignore everything but the first figure, it shows that over a third of Brits believe in a God. By your logic, if I had two cats and a dog, I would be "dogless". Catch what I mean Cons?

You should go to this godless place, Cons. Book yourself into a place like St. Albans , just north of London and go for a walk on a Sunday morning. You can't go a hundred yards, it seems, without tripping over a well-frequented church or chapel - C of E, Baptist, Methodist, and so on. Go to the cathedral there, Cons: not one of the great ones, but certainly one of the longest and it is well deserving of veneration, Cons. I will stop here, mate; not get into Bath on its "greyhound day" when the square in front of the entrances to the cathedral and abbey are wall to wall greyhounds, whippets, lurchers and the like. I do go on don't I? AlanE (talk) 01:53, 19 February 2016 (EST)

AlaE, "37% of UK citizens "believed there is a God". The other figures mix in spirit and also life force. God isn't merely a spirit. The devil is a spirit, but he is not God. And a force is not God as God is a person.

Lastly, due to immigration, which includes among others evangelical Christians, Muslism, other religious people and others, London is becoming desecularized. See THESE articles. Conservative (talk) 10:09, 19 February 2016 (EST)

And one other thing. My "source" in CP during Markman's campaign against me told me that

And one other thing. My "source" in CP during Markman's campaign against me told me that his ISP was in Israel. AlanE (talk) 20:30, 17 February 2016 (EST)

Don't believe everything you read. I can make it look like I'm in just about any country in the world, and switch among them in a minute or less. That may have been where he/she actually was, or it may not have been.--David B (talk) 22:14, 17 February 2016 (EST)

And how's your language - your vernacular - when you change countries? I correspond with various English speakers regularly. Pinhas Markman did not come across as a Pom. I showed a Gmail of something he wrote to me after his - um - fall to my English wife and she said: : "he's not English. He May be in England now but he did not learn to speak in England. Or write. He sounds somewhere where they learn American English." AlanE (talk) 23:18, 17 February 2016 (EST)

Cons, I certainly don't believe everything I read from you. In fact, I don't think I believe any of it. From my email exchanges with Pinhas Markman, which are all in archives that I can't be bothered to look up, he lived in Israel and was in fact a Messianic Jew.

Also, any time I want to read about your views on evangelical Christianity teaching the depravity of man, or anything else, for that matter, in a discussion of Pinhas Markman, or any other utterly unrelated topic, I will always know that I can count on you. SamHB (talk) 00:13, 18 February 2016 (EST)