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Something about immigration to the US

Poland's policy on Muslim immigration is fantastic.

Remember 9/11! Look at all the problems the French are having with their Muslim immigrants.

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." - President Donald J. Trump's proclamation about his Muslim ban which largely was upheld by SCOTUS minus a few countries (If memory serves). Conservative (talk) 02:19, November 14, 2021 (EST)

None of that is the issue. The issue is the CIA & the EU using Polish territory to provoke a war with Russia. RobSFree Kyle! 15:30, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Most Indians and Filipinos are a much better immigrant choice than people from predominantly Muslim countries. When is the last time an Indian doctor blew something up in the USA or Poland? When is the last time a Filipina nurse or nanny blew up something in the USA or Poland? Conservative (talk) 02:46, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Here's how Merrick Garland's new "domestic terrorism" hotline for public officials works

TGP:

After asking [Sen.] Mark Kelly the “wrong questions,” Kelly’s staffers photographed Conradson, began texting frantically and whispering to each other about him, then asked for a credential. Conradson showed his credentials and the staffer then asked police to remove Conradson from the public square....[1][2]

RobSFree Kyle! 23:29, November 11, 2021 (EST)

Just when you thought the Left couldn't sink any lower with their forcing of deadly CCP flu "vaccines" onto the public...

Scientists Are Attempting to Grow Covid Vaccine-Filled Spinach, Lettuce, Edible Plants To Replace Covid Injections

Northwest (talk) 15:38, November 12, 2021 (EST)

Donald J. Trump's response to the pandemic could have been better. On the other hand, his Operation Warp Speed developed a great vaccine in terms of the risk/benefit ratio. MAGA! Conservative (talk) 02:11, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Still singing that song? Donald J. Trump's response to the pandemic could have been better. When did you become an advocate for big government? Even after Fauci admits Warp Speed vaccines don't work, you still think they are fantastic? RobSFree Kyle! 15:29, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Trump downplayed the pandemic at first. He repeatedly engaged in wishful thinking and denialism and talked about the pandemic fading away soon. And how it was supposedly fading. Rather than take the bull the horns, he unfortunately engaged in denialism which helped the virus to spread. On top of this, he politicized masks which help mitigate coronavirus spread, but are not a panacea.
On the other hand, Trump did shut down air travel from China faster than most political people wanted to. And he did develop ventilators/vaccines faster than expected. He also sent a hospital ship and tents to NYC. So Trump was a mixed bag when it came to tackling/mitigating the pandemic.
But at the end of the day, there are only so much Trump could do when it came to mitigating the pandemic. Americans can be very oppositional and there is widespread distrust of the government and the media. America has a lot of immigrants from Europe and Asia so that helped bring the virus into the USA. States have a lot of power in the USA and can thwart sensible federal policies and unfortunately chains are often as strong as their weakest links (In other words, states that mismanage their pandemic response, help spread the virus to neighboring states and thru people traveling via the interstate highway system and planes.). On top of this, a large swath of America is overweight and have preventable underlying conditions that increase morbidity when people got infected with coronavirus. Conservative (talk) 04:33, November 15, 2021 (EST)
For the record, Dr. Fauci was more to blame on that front, as Peter Navarro revealed recently. And just so you know, it was FAUCI who politicized masks. And last I checked, YOU were the one who constantly pushed for the masks, even though I and others repeatedly tried to tell you that the masking just wasn't working at all. So it's the pot calling the kettle black in your case. Also, you of ALL people ought to know that the reason the pandemic didn't "fade away" was because the CDC literally counted those who simply had covid in their systems as COVID deaths, fudged the numbers to scare people. Trump had absolutely NOTHING to do with that. You want to push the liberal line on things, join Wikipedia. We are NOT Wikipedia, nor should we be. And Trump's been out of office thanks to an outright election coup, so all this mess can be blamed directly on Fauci now, not Trump. The only mistake he made was making a weasel like Fauci the head of his COVID response team. Pokeria1 (talk) 04:38, November 15, 2021 (EST)
Fauci is a train wreck. But Trump could have fired Fauci if I am not mistaken. Conservative (talk) 04:42, November 15, 2021 (EST)
He actually WAS going to fire Fauci, though. In fact, he made it pretty dang clear he was going to do so after the election, just a month before it ended in fact. Pokeria1 (talk) 04:45, November 15, 2021 (EST)
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. The fact is that Trump did not fire Fauci. As Harry Truman said about the US presidency, the buck stops here.
Also, Conservapedia is not Pokeriapedia so you cannot pontificate Conservapedia's official stance into being. Conservapedia does not have an official stance on the coronavirus pandemic. People are free to write essays with their point of view or set up debate pages, etc. Conservative (talk) 04:50, November 15, 2021 (EST)
I'm not going by my point of view, I'm trying to make sure Conservapedia doesn't become yet another Wikipedia where they push the liberal view of things all in an attempt to promote neutrality. If I were to add my point of view for Conservapedia, I would have added in text to articles stating God was a liar during Sodom and Gomorrah via his barter game by now. And just as an FYI, there were plenty of people besides me who are pushing back against your current narrative, including Northwest, PeterKa, and the site founder Andy Schlafly. Heck, even RobS, and he's not exactly innocent of trying to turn Conservapedia into yet another Wikipedia either. Not to mention I if anything am dangerously underweight and literally cannot afford to lose any more weight without dying, so don't give me that whole "most of America is dangerously overweight." Especially when most of the people I see coming into Good Will don't even look overweight (when I think of "overweight", I specifically think of someone like Homer Simpson at a bare minimum, at worst Vladimir Harkonnen). Pokeria1 (talk) 04:57, November 15, 2021 (EST)
If Trump had fired Fauci in the spring of 2020, he'd be accused of being "anti-science". Trump naively accepted Fauci's advice in good faith, not realizing Fauci was the duplicitous piece of crap in bed with Shi Zhengli that he is. By the fall election season, it was fairly obvious Trump wasn't listening to Fauci anymore.
Let's put the blame where it belongs on Xi Jinping, who just won more support from the CCP Congress for his Nazi ideology and agenda. RobSFree Kyle! 14:08, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Nearly 40% of American adults aged 20 and over are obese. 71.6% of adults aged 20 and over are overweight, including obesity.[3]

You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to discover that a large portion of America is obese. Just look out your window or go downtown in a city.

The USA is the 12th most obese country in the world in terms of its obesity level.[4] Conservative (talk) 05:07, November 15, 2021 (EST)

I don't hold to any one political narrative when it comes to the coronavirus pandemic. I try to be objective. I agree with points that the politically right/left/center hold. I endeavor to go where the facts lead. As far as the politically right-wing favored idea of Vladimir Zelenko's coronavirus treatment, I am the one who wrote that article. Conservative (talk) 05:13, November 15, 2021 EST)
Objectivity is PRECISELY why we're failing. In fact, objectivity was created by Voltaire and his ilk to subtly push poison into Christianity and overturn it when they created their Encyclopedie (and this was backed up by the likes of Timothy Dwight). In fact, just ask User:Progressingamerica, he'll tell you that objective news is far from objective and meant to default to a leftist point of view from inception. He'll even cite to you Public Opinion by Walter Lippmann who flat out states objective news' true nature. As far as the obesity thing, here's the thing, obesity tends to be a very loose term that could be defined by differing cultures. For example, in Japan, someone with large breasts and a slim figure technically qualifies as obese, even when it's obvious they aren't obese at all. If I'm going to go by obese, there is to be a very fixed and precise definition, one that literally cannot be missed, like Vladimir Harkonnen for example, or Paulonious. And I can assure you, speaking as someone who's working at Good Will, I've encountered quite a few customers who are closer to thin than obese, even if somewhat shapely at times. Pokeria1 (talk) 05:28, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Trump's DC hotel is for sale

I would call this an indication that Trump is no longer running for president: "Trumps Selling Prized Washington, D.C., Hotel for $375 Million." Surely the hotel would be worth a lot more money if Trump became president again. Trump has said he will make an announcement about running after the midterms. DeSantis versus Harris is the race that will end the mainstream media. PeterKa (talk) 19:47, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Who would win a Harris - Buttigieg primary contest in 2024? My money is on Bootyboy. RobSFree Kyle! 20:43, November 14, 2021 (EST)
I am not so sure. No black people will vote for Buttigieg. How big is the gay vote? PeterKa (talk) 20:51, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Kamala's approval rating is below Biden's. That's hard to recover from. By 2024 she is a known quantity, he is not. No one is fooled by her. Sure, a few more racist blacks may vote for her then the 3% she garnered in polls cause she's half black, but Bootyboy was already beating her in home state of California before voting even started and she dropped out. Now, as an incumbent Acting President in 2024, that would be an entirely different scenario. But as of now, I don't believe Democrats think she's got a lock on the nomination if Biden is a full one-termer. RobSFree Kyle! 21:04, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Biden completing four years raises another interesting scenario: I doubt Democrats or anybody would take serious an endorsement from a senile old man who Kamala once called a racist. Jill certainly would intervene. Like Obama, he'd just shut up and let Hollywood donors and the voters decide on Bootyboy's white privilege. RobSFree Kyle! 21:15, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Technically, we don't know if he's running or not, since he never actually ruled it out. Pokeria1 (talk) 19:58, November 14, 2021 (EST)
He cannot announce because campaign finance laws would then restrict some of his and donors activities. RobSFree Kyle! 20:45, November 14, 2021 (EST)
IOWs, he could have no contact or collusion with so-called independent issue-oriented 501(c)3 PACs and organizations. RobSFree Kyle! 20:49, November 14, 2021 (EST)
A 501(c)3 issue-oriented PAC, say a gun rights or pro-life PAC, cannot officially back a candidate, neither can the candidate coordinate or collude with the PAC once the candidate files the papers declaring his or her candidacy. The PAC can only solicit funds for the issue, not on behalf of a candidate. The PACs can, however, attack a candidate with a record for opposing their issue. These are the attack ads you see that usually end with, "Call so-and-so, tell them to stop killing puppies" or some such. RobSFree Kyle! 20:52, November 14, 2021 (EST)
And Trump's sale of the Washington hotel is probably related to Mayor Bowser turning it into as loser with her totalitarian lockdowns. RobSFree Kyle! 21:12, November 14, 2021 (EST)
Biden supposedly wants to off load Harris to the Supreme Court so he can replace her with Buttigieg: "Kamala is angry with Biden for defending 'white man' Buttigieg while giving her 'no-win' migration brief." Somehow, I don't think this idea is going to work.
According to the article: "But privately, Harris aides gripe that she's been set up to fail, and handed a portfolio that is not commensurate with her historic status as the first woman, and first woman of color, to hold the vice president's office." What an obnoxious attitude! PeterKa (talk) 06:51, November 15, 2021 (EST)
Trump needs cash. One of Trump's banks said they would not lend to him anymore - namely Deutsch Bank. And then there is the legal fees. And Covid-19 affecting hotel receipts to his hotels. In addition, when he ran for president, he automatically caused a lot of wealthy people in urban areas to hate his guts so that hurt his brand. My guess is that Trump's rural, non-college-educated fan base is not the type of people who go to Trump Hotels.
Trump definitely made a personal sacrifice when he ran for president. It was a step down in terms of a career. At the same time, he basks in the love of his supporters and wants to help the forgotten Americans.Conservative (talk) 08:13, November 15, 2021 (EST)
That's all spot on. Trump is somewhat cash-strapped, and he is somewhat transitioning into media platforms from some of his hotel-entertainment losers. He ought to partner with Bongino, Parler, Rumble or the Mercers, but that may not happen until after a second run or second presidency. Don Jr. could eventually become another Zuckerberg, Dorsey or Bezos. RobSFree Kyle! 13:54, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Groyper Beardson Beardly is one of the few people who've never heard of Conservapedia

Warning: profanity. Starts at 2:45:48. [5] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BernieandTrumpFan (talk)

Random internet lowlife trolls are insulting us? Ah, yet another badge of honor to wear that I'm running out of space for... —LT(TALK PAGE | CONTRIBUTIONS) Monday, 17:09, November 15, 2021 (EST)
Apparantly, BernieandTrump fan is attempting to draw Conservapedia into somekinda of "rightwing domestic terrorism" discussion, per Merrick Garland and the Biden DHS. Looks like another false flag "Unite the Right" rally. Will these people ever stop? RobSFree Kyle! 17:51, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Liz Cheney as veep

Buttigieg is no longer the only contender in the veepstakes. Now there is Liz Cheney: "Liz Cheney's anti-Trump crusade will end her career or make her a White House contender." The Dems better hurry up and do whatever it is they are going to do. The new veep has to be confirmed by a majority in both houses. After the midterms, the new Speaker of the House will be next in line after Biden and Harris (?). PeterKa (talk) 21:09, November 15, 2021 (EST)

There are so many different scenarios, it would be interesting to see an outline on paper. Right now, racist bigot Hakeem Jeffries [6] seems poised to be Pelosi's successor, unless the Democrat bigots can promote some white boy, girl, or thing quickly to preserve white privilege and keep blacks down on the plantation. It seems like another internal crisis for the party of hate. 21:39, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Politico reports this morning: "Meadows suggested DONALD TRUMP, his former boss, should become House speaker if the GOP flips the House in 2022. Technically, the speaker doesn’t have to be an elected member of Congress." [7] RobSFree Kyle! 13:24, November 18, 2021 (EST)

Will the Northeast and the states of MN/WI/MI vote for a Democrat in the 2024 presidential election?

Will the Northeast and the states of MN/WI/MI going to vote for a Democrat in the 2024 election?

With the price of heating oil and gas skyrocketing and the Democrat's antipathy to domestic energy producers in the gas/oil sectors, it makes you wonder. Besides incompetence, a defining characteristic of Joe Biden and his administration is stubbornness. So who knows how long this foolishness will last. People indoctrinated into political ideologies often ignore basic common sense. The Soviet Union dragged on for about 70 years. Jimmy Carter was often incompetent, but he seems less stubborn than Biden. It's partly a reflection of the American press being more compliant towards Democrats now.

Rising inflation sees Maine, New Englanders blast Biden administration and ‘rich people trying to get richer’.

America had energy independence under Donald Trump.

It's too bad that basic economics is not taught in primary/secondary schools.

My guess is that many of those states will foolishly vote for Democrats again. Israel wandered in the desert for 40 years. Maybe Northeasterners will wander in their proverbial wilderness of high energy costs for a long stretch.

Question: If weather forecasters have difficult predicting the weather 2 weeks out, why are many Americans putting an inordinate amount of trust in global warming alarmist in the climatology field about their long term forecast? Conservative (talk) 03:17, November 16, 2021 (EST)

Answer: Marxist infiltration of the education system. RobSFree Kyle! 12:53, November 16, 2021 (EST)
The pandemic is increasing attendance at religious schools and increasing homeschooling. For the first time, many people are seeing via Zoom what is going on in the nation's primary and secondary education. Republicans are starting to get more interested in education. A parent's rights bill is being proposed. Conservative (talk) 13:22, November 16, 2021 (EST)
At the same time, cultural change often happens slowly. Conservative (talk) 13:23, November 16, 2021 (EST)
School choice is the issue that can win blacks for Republicans. Youngkin did win some black majority districts. Also, blacks are not favorable toward the pro-criminal Defund the Police movement.
In reality, blacks make up the conservative wing of the Democrat party, and white Democrats are losing their grip. That's why they toss around the scare words "racist" and "white supremacy" so much, cause those words are effective in getting blacks attention. Republicans make a mistake in ignoring it; they must learn how to deal with those accusations and to communicate directly with black Democrats. And it begins by not thinking of the black voting bloc as a monolith, and exploiting internal divisions between blacks. There are black racists who voted for Obama based on skin color; on the hand, by far most blacks are conservative Christians who believe in God, family, and community - everything the Marxists seek to destroy. RobSFree Kyle! 13:53, November 16, 2021 (EST)
I have many black friends. Most know I am a Republican. Blacks have an internal mechanism, probably handed down generationally, where they try or can detect racist attitudes among non-blacks through body language, eye contact, and words and greetings when they meet a stranger. It then affects an employment or personal relationship if a relationship is established.
I saw an old black friend in public just the other day I hadn't seen in a few years. He asked me if he could hug me. That's not the way I would normally behave, but I am attuned to his personal struggles and felt it was a sincere expression from him of our friendship. RobSFree Kyle! 14:04, November 16, 2021 (EST)
A higher priority should be given to the GOP pursuing the Hispanic vote right now. Latinos across America are increasingly voting Republican. Can that happen in California? [8] Many Latinos self identifty as whites and Hispanics and whites have high rates of intermarriage. At the same time, black men increasingly like to marry white women. With intermarriage increasing, identity politics is a long term losing strategy for the Dems. See also: Essay: Why the end of racial identity politics through intermarriage is upsetting to leftists. The future is distressing to progressives.Conservative (talk) 14:07, November 16, 2021 (EST)
Those are two separate issues; Hispanics are not a monolithic voting bloc like Blacks and already vote along income demographic lines with the rest of the country. Neither Democrats nor Republicans can turn Hispanics into a monolithic voting bloc like blacks, despite efforts by both parties to do so since the 1980s. The priority needs to be breaking up the stranglehold Democrat racists have on African Americans, freeing them once and for all, and integrating them into American society as Hispanics and all other groups have been. Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans, etc. likewise vote along income and not along racial lines. RobSFree Kyle! 15:13, November 16, 2021 (EST)
Let me give out a secret observation: Most blacks are hungry for personal friendships with non-racist whites. And when you do establish a personal friendship, they can be among the most kind, loyal, loving friends you will ever have. RobSFree Kyle! 15:35, November 16, 2021 (EST)
To put it in vulgar stereotypical terms, they are starved for simple acceptance and mutual respect in American society. RobSFree Kyle! 15:42, November 16, 2021 (EST)
Between 2010 and 2019, the Latino share of the total U.S. population increased from 16% to 18%. Latinos accounted for about half (52%) of all U.S. population growth over this period. They are the country’s second largest racial or ethnic group, behind white non-Hispanics.[9] Conservative (talk) 14:11, November 16, 2021 (EST)

Chinese govt tries to hire 2 popular youtubers to lie about covid

Two Youtubers, one American [10] and one South African [11], spent about 10 years traveling throughout China on motorcycles and posting youtube videos about China. Both are fluent in Chinese. They left China about a year ago before being arrested and held hostage. Since then, they have reported separately on their channels stories about their experience that would have got them in trouble with the Chinese government during their 10 years in China. They have even aired somewhat their differences of opinion regarding issues related to China over the past year. Now, within minutes, both report the Chinese government has attempted to hire and bribe them to create Youtube videos to lie about Chinese involvement in the covid crisis. RobSFree Kyle! 15:45, November 17, 2021 (EST)

It sounds like it's just a form letter the propaganda department sent out to China-oriented Youtubers. If it was a serious offer, I think this Samuel Johnson quote would apply, “No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money.” Shakespeare wrote poetry about how sexy “Mr. WH” was, presumably for the benefit of an undisclosed gay client. PeterKa (talk) 21:31, November 17, 2021 (EST)
They document a few takers of this offer (most of these Americans living and reporting on China on youtube know each other). They are being paid to push the "North American white tailed deer" origin now as the narrative. RobSFree Kyle! 22:32, November 17, 2021 (EST)
The South African guy (Winston) is a bit smarter than his younger American partner. He has nearly 1 million followers. RobSFree Kyle! 22:34, November 17, 2021 (EST)