Talk:Half-Breed Republicans

This statement makes no sense:

• They succeeded the moderate Republicans who had been less opposed to slavery than the Radical Republicans.

Less opposed? Opposition to slavery is what created the Republican party, fought the Civil War with 600,000 dead, and emerged victorious. This is pure, unadulterated commie/Democrat agitprop as old as the New Deal. 16:07, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Hmm, that does sound very misleading/false. I've also heard liberals claim that it was Andrew Johnson who wanted to punish the South more than Lincoln and the Republicans did. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday,

Sure. It's the standard commie/Dem agitprop in school texts books since the New Deal. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:16, 4 January 2021 (EST)

In a nation of 30 million, with 600,000 dead in the Civil War, virtually every family was affected. But Communist Democrats would have you believe that after the Civil War and Blacks were freed, some Republicans became pro-slavery. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:20, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Wait, the liberal brainwashing in public school history textbooks has been since the 30s? One thing certainly interesting was that when I had learned about the Stalwarts/civil service reform advocates in high school, we weren't told that the Stalwarts' support for the spoils system had to do with their support for civil rights, and I initially got the impression that those who advocated for the civil service system were the good guys. The history textbooks also excluded mentions of liberal racist Democrats like Hugo Black, and of course promoted the Southern strategy narrative. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 16:22, 4 January 2021 (EST)

It goes back further than the 1930s. Progressives have doing their work in education since at least the 1900s. Progressingamerica (talk) 22:23, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Hmm, interesting. So what are some more of the specific details about this? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 22:25, 4 January 2021 (EST)

One thing you can read if you like is this: [1] All of the ills of government control of education ultimately trace back to one person. Horace Mann. "We, then, who are engaged in the sacred cause of education, are entitled to look upon all parents as having given hostages to our cause"

Thanks! —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 22:33, 4 January 2021 (EST)

In the Reconstruction era, many Republican carpetbaggers were opportunists, "to the victors go the spoils". They bought up Plantations for the back taxes, about a dime on the dollar, got involved in politics under the old system of handing out jobs to cronies, and in this case, many were Black. Civil service reform essentially was a second, non-violent Civil War that transformed the nation.

Jim Crow laws are as much intertwined with civil service reform and civil service reform advocates as it is with states rights and the 10th Amendment. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:43, 4 January 2021 (EST)

In this article, what Mr. Nationalist put in was an argument that Jim Crow was "moderate"; maybe it was in the Democrat party for 100 years between 1865 and 1965. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:45, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Ah, I see. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 16:48, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Civil service reform barred Blacks from government jobs. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:54, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Huh?

The article currently says:

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After the American Civil War they succeeded the moderate Republicans who had been more interested in maintaining the spoils system than the Radical Republicans commitment to civil rights.

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I thought Half-Breeds were pushing for civil service reform to replace the spoils system? Now yes, its leader James G. Blaine may have individually supported the spoils system and corruption/patronage it brought, though the faction as a whole pushed for the Pendleton Act. —LT^{(TALK PAGE | CONTRIBUTIONS)} Tuesday, 15:54, November 9, 2021 (EST)