Talk:Giacomo Puccini

Neither Vivaldi or Albinoni in the See Also section are stylistically similar to Puccini. They seem to be there simply because they are all Italian, which seems like an odd way of connecting things. Pasteur, Proust, and Polk were also males whose last name began with P, but you wouldn't use them for your See Also. ZTak 23:41, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Why "see Also" people who died 300 years before him?

Why not "see also" soem of his contemporaries? AliceBG 23:58, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Good comments, but there is a good reason to have them there, they all were important italian composers. To mention his contemporaries you may use the main part of the article. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 00:12, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Being an Italian composer shouldn't be enough to warrant being part of See Also. Brad Pitt's See Also shouldn't include Charlton Heston (but both were leading male actors). Pollack shouldn't have Winslow Homer in his See Also (but both were American painters). I.M. Pae and Frank Lloyd Wrigt were both architects, but their pages should See Also to each other. Each of those previous pairs were completely unrelated, even though their fields were the same. Similarly, Vivaldi and Albinoni were both Italian composers, but have as much to do with Puccini as a kosher pickle. ZTak 15:46, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Um... One: you forgot the original "horse opera". I'm about to add it.

Two: there are plenty of Italian opera composers for links without disappearing into the far past (but if you insist on the Italian Baroque, stick to Vivaldi, whose operas are still known today, and Claudio Monteverdi who is credited with the first opera.)

Three: Mascagni and Leoncavallo are the obvious links, but if you insist on that sort of thing going in the body of the article, (sigh), then watch that space. AlanE 16:41, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

I see your point. As I understand "See Also" is part of the matter of the article, but it does not have to be 100% related to it. It is mainly an opportunity for us to promote other articles that could be interesting for the users and that we need to increase traffic to. In that way, we choose what accomplish that objective. --User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 16:47, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Sure; but there are categories within music, even within opera, that are natural to stay within before moving on. Example: The three I have linked are natural links, (and now that I think about it, Giordano could be added.) Verdi, and Boito and possibly Bellini form another. Bellini was before the other two, but the great Verdi singers are great Bellini singers. By the time you get to Bellini, you are getting into bel canto which is another natural category within itself and the natural link to Bellini there is Donnizetti. And on it goes. This is all off the top of my head And that is just within Italian opera. (Did you follow all that?). Anyway t'is done now. AlanE 17:46, 29 September 2008 (EDT)