Talk:Debate: Luther, Protestantism vs. Catholicism: Which is better?

We said the past that these debates would happen on debate pages and not user pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Conservative (talk)

It looks like just another one of your spamfests, and not much of a debate or dialogue. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:48, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

If you don't like reading due to people supporting their arguments. Don't go to an online encyclopedia. Conservative (talk) 18:54, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Nah, I read as far as "I am withdrawing from this discussion", and don 't need to read any further spam and trolling. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:59, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

So in your very first posting to this formal debate, you lead off with a Godwin against Catholics and spam link twice to the same page. That says it all. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:32, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

I am not vandalizing my content if I am merely changing my own edits.

I am not vandalizing my content if I am merely changing my own edits. Conservative (talk) 12:02, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

You cannot remove 3,000 bytes and whole sections after another editor has responded to your postings. You can make typographical corrections, and maybe correct grammatical errors to clarify context (as long is it doesn't change the meaning of the context).

The other editor has already responded to your posting; you can't vandalize the page to remove embarrassing postings. 12:05, August 4, 2023 (EDT)RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!}

He did not respond to my post. The later section was added by me. Conservative (talk) 12:07, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

diffs or it never happened. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:08, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

I don't understand your last post on this page. But I know that he did not respond to my latest content. Conservative (talk) 12:10, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

You need to present diffs (with timestamps) to prove that you are modifying 3,000 bytes of your own postings before he ever responded. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:12, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Just look at the edit log. The latest edits are all mine. And I decided to just remove this section anyways. Conservative (talk) 12:14, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

The latest edits show you removing 3,000 bytes of your postings; your need to show when you made those postings with timestamps. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:16, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Simply look at the string of the latest edits for that section. None of them are from NishantXavier. Conservative (talk) 12:19, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

That's your job. You need to present individual diffs with the timestamp when the 3,000 bytes were posted. If you didn't have a reputation for vandalizing talk pages and bad faith editing, it wouldn't be an issue. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:19, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

You are just being difficult because in the past I criticized Putin for being corrupt. You know that I did not vandalize anything and just removed my screenshots of the edits. Anyways, I am done debating XavierNishant so it's a moot point. Conservative (talk) 12:32, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

I am performing the actions of a neutral Admin and enforcing the rules against vandalism and bad faith editing. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:34, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

You are just being difficult because in the past I criticized Putin for being corrupt. You know that I did not vandalize anything and just removed my screenshots of the edits that I just offered for proof. Anyways, I am done debating XavierNishant so it's a moot point.

And I am not going to waste my time with and contentious and oppositional person - namely you. Conservative (talk) 12:36, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

You are spamming off-topic content in this discussion now. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:38, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia, or any wiki, is not your personal doodle pad - it is interactive with other users present. Yes, you can make changes to your postings in Debate format or talk pages before other users respond; however, you have not proven that as a fact, given your reputation for vandalism and outright deletion of talk pages. It is not an Admin's responsibility to follow your endless, and ceaseless doodlings and deletions. You must prove your good faith editing by providing the individual diffs for the 3,000+ bytes of information you removed this morning for the mainspace. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:42, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Also, in Debate and discussion format, please sign and date with the timestamp ALL postings. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:29, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

This is worth reviewing, and even having Andy take a look at:

comment by a neutral observer

As an independent neutral observer, my impression is User:Conservative has been waiting for years to unleash this level of vitriol and spamming against the Roman Catholic Church when the original Debate question dealt with the writings of Martin Luther. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:39, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Wikipedia is a valid source of anti-Catholic criticism?

And he spams the Michael Vorhees garbage one more time (three times, by my count) in this so-called "debate" or 'discussion". Read Conservapedia's rules on spamming. Any user can remove it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:42, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Spamming the same material over and over again is trolling, and trolling is a violation of CP's civility guidelines. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:47, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

rejoinder to the above commmentary

New Advent, a Catholic encyclopedia website, is one the most prominent Catholic websites on the internet.

I cite a portion of New Advent's article on Pope John XII below:

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On 6 November a synod composed of fifty Italian and German bishops was convened in St. Peter's; John was accused of sacrilege, simony, perjury, murder, adultery, and incest, and was summoned in writing to defend himself. Refusing to recognize the synod, John pronounced sentence of excommunication (ferendæ sententia) against all participators in the assembly, should they elect in his stead another pope. The emperor now came forward to accuse John of having broken the agreement ratified by oath, betrayed him, and called in Adalbert. With the imperial consent the synod deposed John on 4 December, and elected to replace him the protoscriniarius Leo, yet a layman. The latter received all the orders uncanonically without the proper intervals (interstitia), and was crowned pope as Leo VIII. This proceeding was aginst the canons of the Church, and the enthroning of Leo was almost universally regarded as invalid. Most of the imperial troops now departing from Rome, John's adherents rose against the emperor, but were suppressed on 3 January, 964, with bloodshed. Nevertheless, at Leo's request, Otto released the hundred hostages whom he had called for, and marched from Rome to meet Adalbert in the field. A new insurrection broke out in the city against the imperial party; Leo VIII fled, while John XII re-entered Rome, and took bloody vengeance on the leaders of the opposite party. Cardinal-Deacon John had his right hand struck off, Bishop Otgar of Speyer was scourged, a high palatine official lost nose and ears. On 26 February, 964, John held a synod in St. Peter's in which the decrees of the synod of 6 November were repealed; Leo VIII and all who had elected him were excommunicated; his ordination was pronounced invalid; and Bishop Sico of Ostia, who had consecrated him, was deprived forever of his dignities. The emperor, left free to act after his defeat of Berengarius, was preparing to re-enter Rome, when the pope's death changed the situation. John died on 14 May, 964, eight days after he had been, according to rumour, stricken by paralysis in the act of adultery. Luitprand relates that on that occasion the devil dealt him a blow on the temple in consequence of which he died.

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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Conservative (talk)

Off topic. The above observations are about Conservapedia guidelines dealing with civility, spamming, trolling, proper talk page and Debate etiquette. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:06, August 4, 2023 (EDT)