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So was Brooks Hays a member of the committee? That's what the top of this .pdf seems to imply, although other sources like this one indicate that the "Hays" was Wayne Hays of Ohio. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 17:06, September 21, 2021 (EDT)
- Update: having read the final report of the Cox Committee, it seems that Wayne Hays was not a member; the report says that the acting chairman who filled the place of Cox was Brooks Hays. Unfortunately I only have it on my computer as a .pdf with no associated URL, so I can't link to it here. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 21:39, October 4, 2021 (EDT)- Alternatively, paste it into Cox Committee Report. RobSFree Kyle! 22:18, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- In the .pdf, there is technically no spacing in between the text when copy/pasting it, and the fact that typos somehow result in the process creates a tedious, long process to fix the errors. Even going through the process for merely a few sentences can take longer than one expects. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 22:34, October 4, 2021 (EDT)- Other possibilities: take photos with your phone and upload the imgs. RobSFree Kyle! 22:39, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- In the .pdf, there is technically no spacing in between the text when copy/pasting it, and the fact that typos somehow result in the process creates a tedious, long process to fix the errors. Even going through the process for merely a few sentences can take longer than one expects. —
- Alternatively, paste it into Cox Committee Report. RobSFree Kyle! 22:18, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Another possibility: upload what you got in raw form to a user subpage (draft space) and let editors tinker with it. RobSFree Kyle! 22:43, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Ah yes, that's a good idea. I'll get to that right now. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 22:45, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Ah yes, that's a good idea. I'll get to that right now. —
- Another possibility: upload what you got in raw form to a user subpage (draft space) and let editors tinker with it. RobSFree Kyle! 22:43, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Just post a link to it either from See also or your user page. RobSFree Kyle! 22:47, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Maybe we can get User:StephenKollenborn to work on it. RobSFree Kyle! 22:49, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Done. Now, perhaps the idea of uploading images may be more practical for readers. I can take screenshots of every individual page and upload them to put in a nice photo gallery in the article. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 22:53, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Done. Now, perhaps the idea of uploading images may be more practical for readers. I can take screenshots of every individual page and upload them to put in a nice photo gallery in the article. —
- Maybe we can get User:StephenKollenborn to work on it. RobSFree Kyle! 22:49, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Yah, it won't be completed in a day, but gives editors something to do when they're bored (put a little Note at the top: You can help improve Conservapedia by copyediting and formatting this original primary source document.) I for one, want to read it, just don't know when. Got a link? RobSFree Kyle! 22:59, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Uh, I specified above that there apparently isn't an associated URL with this .pdf when I downloaded it. I got it via the U.S. House Historian's office in an email reply, and there was an additional note stating that it's publicly available in one's local Federal Depository Library. There may be a way to add a URL to any .pdf via certain applications like Adobe, though I haven't sufficiently looked into that yet. This is a matter I'll try to focus on tomorrow. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 23:06, October 4, 2021 (EDT)- Wow. When they talk about efforts to suppress the report, it wasn't a conspiracy theory. I scanned it over, and it wasn't to hard to pick this out:
- because they are well known and their expenditures comparatively great, the attention focused on their foreign activities is disproportionate. Those foundations whiich [typo] are concerned with internationalism along political lines appear to center their activities around projects which support tlhe [typo] Government policy of participation in United Nations activities
- RobSFree Kyle! 23:20, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- There are a few problems with trying to find a copy of the Cox Committee report on the internet:
- There is ambiguity between the Cox Committee report of 1952–53 and a different "Cox Report" in the 1980s/90s. The latter tends to predominantly show up on search results when looking for the former.
- Internet Archive contains several entries about the Norman Dodd report from the Reece Committee, but oddly nothing for the Cox Committee report.
- The same applies for American Deception.
- The few sources which bring up the Cox Committee report (for my research, one article by Fascinating Politics and one by The New American) don't provide a link to it.
- Now, regarding potential censorship, I'm surprised the target would be the Cox Committee report as opposed to the Reece Committee report. It was the latter (which is quite easy to access on the internet) which really went in-depth. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 23:27, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- There are a few problems with trying to find a copy of the Cox Committee report on the internet:
- Wow. When they talk about efforts to suppress the report, it wasn't a conspiracy theory. I scanned it over, and it wasn't to hard to pick this out:
- Uh, I specified above that there apparently isn't an associated URL with this .pdf when I downloaded it. I got it via the U.S. House Historian's office in an email reply, and there was an additional note stating that it's publicly available in one's local Federal Depository Library. There may be a way to add a URL to any .pdf via certain applications like Adobe, though I haven't sufficiently looked into that yet. This is a matter I'll try to focus on tomorrow. —
- Yah, it won't be completed in a day, but gives editors something to do when they're bored (put a little Note at the top: You can help improve Conservapedia by copyediting and formatting this original primary source document.) I for one, want to read it, just don't know when. Got a link? RobSFree Kyle! 22:59, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- The background to this was, and I'm speaking off the top of my head on several details, the US had something like 21 delegates to the UN organizing conference, of which the vast majority were hand-picked KGB operatives by Alger Hiss (User:FOIA's writings will have more detail and good sources). Lud Ullmann, who lived wth Gregory Silvermaster, was one. Victor Perlo may have been one, too. This information was common knowledge by 1952, after the Russians stole nuclear secrets and the Julius Rosenberg's were on trial. All these confluences of events led to COngressionl investigations. RobSFree Kyle! 23:37, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
- Interesting. After all, the Cox Committee was established by a House resolution in April 1952. Given that its investigation and report was really just scratching the surface of exposing communist infiltration, I think you may have a good point about strong efforts to suppress the report. It began the needed probing which the Reece Committee continued in 1953. The Cox Committee report also provided the recommendation for investigating whether foundations abused their privileges for tax evasion, which the Patman Committee probed in the 1960s. According to Fascinating Politics:
- The background to this was, and I'm speaking off the top of my head on several details, the US had something like 21 delegates to the UN organizing conference, of which the vast majority were hand-picked KGB operatives by Alger Hiss (User:FOIA's writings will have more detail and good sources). Lud Ullmann, who lived wth Gregory Silvermaster, was one. Victor Perlo may have been one, too. This information was common knowledge by 1952, after the Russians stole nuclear secrets and the Julius Rosenberg's were on trial. All these confluences of events led to COngressionl investigations. RobSFree Kyle! 23:37, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
| “ | [Patman]'s report in 1963 assailed the growth of tax-exempt institutions as new monopolies that were effectively being subsidized by taxpayers and uncovered the funneling of money from the CIA to groups with no seeming connection to the government (Shanahan). | ” |
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LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 23:45, October 4, 2021 (EDT)
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Great news!
I was just able to get the .pdf of the Cox Committee report on the internet with an associated URL. [1] —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Saturday, 17:07, October 9, 2021 (EDT)
- (p.7) There remains the ugly unalterable fact that Alger Hiss became the president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. And this despite the fact that his nomination and election came about through the efforts of men of proven loyalty and broad experience in public affairs...There is also the indisputable fact that Frederick Vanderbilt Field became the secretary of the American Council of the Institute of Pacific Relations.
- RobSFree Kyle! 17:48, October 9, 2021 (EDT)
- In reading this stuff, one must remember the context. It was not driven by paranoia, there was the threat of nuclear annihilation hanging over everyone's head. RobSFree Kyle! 17:51, October 9, 2021 (EDT)