Talk:Carter's Law
Look, i'm pretty much brand-new here, but a search for "Carter's Law" and "organic chemistry" gives me five google hits. Are you sure about this? StephenE 14:35, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- Do you have a doctorate in the subject? Read "Chemistry Under Extreme Conditions". Thank you. CameronJ 14:37, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- No, i do not have a doctorate in the subject--but it would appear that nobody with a doctorate in the subject has written an article on "Carter's law" in terms of organic chemistry, as a JSTOR search gives zero hits. StephenE 14:41, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- Because it's an obscure area of organic chemistry that only applies under high-energy conditions. The law doesn't become observable unless you're at around 3500K, and doesn't affect anything until you're at surface-of-a-star hot. Sorry to be brusque, but just because it isn't on the internet (90% pornograpy, 10& propaganda) does not mean that it is irrelevant. Read Chemistry At Extreme Conditions or Chemistry Under Extreme or Non-Classical conditions. It might be a bit much, but the principles should become obvious. CameronJ 14:52, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- No, i do not have a doctorate in the subject--but it would appear that nobody with a doctorate in the subject has written an article on "Carter's law" in terms of organic chemistry, as a JSTOR search gives zero hits. StephenE 14:41, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
With all due respect, JSTOR is hardly "the Internet" as you describe it, Doctor. As I'm sure you're well aware, it's the premiere "go-to" resource for academic, peer-reviewed scholarly articles. I just find it odd that no scholarly articles seem to even raise the subject. And unfortunately, my university library--one of the largest in the country--does not list either of the titles you mentioned, Doctor.StephenE 14:55, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- Sorry, I didn't mean to dismiss JSTOR; I was referring to your earlier mention of a "Google search". I am aware of the absence of articles on Carter's Law, mostly because of the facts mentioned above; it is obscure and only occurs under extreme conditions. Considering the coverage given to pseudo-science like AGW and homeopathy, I'm amazed that people still trust scientific journals at all.
I don't know what you want me to do about the two titles. Extreme conditions chemistry is a rarely observed phenomenon, and I'm sorry you're library does not stock more information about it. They are both excellent books and would help you to understand the matter in question. CameronJ 14:59, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
Google searches of a scan of the books you cited. Perhaps, Professor, you could direct me to the appropriate chapters or page numbers in the books in question. StephenE 15:03, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- I could, but since you're determined to disregard the facts, I fail to see any purpose in that. And I don't claim the title of professor; I do not teach at a university. CameronJ 15:05, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
I have the scans of the books in front of me, open in another window. Simply tell me which pages deal with Carter's law, Doctor, and I'll concede the matter. StephenE 15:07, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
The article itself has to be properly cited anyway, so the insersions into the text as to what page they would be on, as well as the names of the books, authors, etc. in the references section, must be made. Karajou 15:10, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- I wouldn't hold my breath, sir. I am almost 100% certain that this article is completely made-up, and Cameron's refusal to even provide a page number does little to make me doubt that. StephenE 15:11, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- Oh stuff it, I was proven wrong. It's a spoof article, created to see if anyone actually knows any science. StephenE, you were a better editor than I gave you credit for, and well done for picking up on it. My apologies for wasting your time. CameronJ 15:13, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- You would have been better off, Cameron, had you been truthful and honest. But lying gets you nowhere except out on the street. Karajou 15:15, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
- Oh stuff it, I was proven wrong. It's a spoof article, created to see if anyone actually knows any science. StephenE, you were a better editor than I gave you credit for, and well done for picking up on it. My apologies for wasting your time. CameronJ 15:13, 15 July 2009 (EDT)