Talk:Afrika Korps

Sorry to interupt the backslapping

El Alamein?

--Horace 22:19, 3 March 2007 (EST)

Don't get the joke here. Is this a joke? What does this mean?--Aschlafly 22:19, 3 March 2007 (EST)

No joke. I just thought that the article, as it currently stands, gives the impression that the Afrika Korps totally defeated the British and that it is solely down to the Americans that the Afrika Korps were eventually defeated. That is, of course, incorrect. --Horace 22:24, 3 March 2007 (EST)

OK, let's fix it ASAP.--Aschlafly 22:40, 3 March 2007 (EST)

I looked at it and don't see anything that is obviously "incorrect". Didn't the Germans beat the British in North Africa in WWII, until the Americans arrived?--Aschlafly 22:41, 3 March 2007 (EST)

Not really. The Afrika Korps were defeated at the second battle of El Alamein shortly before Operation Torch. Furthermore, Operation Torch did include some British troops (and even some Free French). --Horace 22:49, 3 March 2007 (EST)

I'm skeptical. This seems like a battle characterized by the British as a big victory to boost public morale. In fact, a quick look confirms that Allied losses were nearly twice the German losses. Rommel did retreat, however, so I guess that is what makes it a victory. Surely he could have retaliated successfully later had Patton not arrived.

Feel free to add and describe the battle, though, as it is informative. I'll get this started and you can change as you like.--Aschlafly 23:01, 3 March 2007 (EST)

These guys were amazing only deafted by the British Eigth Army. --Will N. 11:29, 4 March 2007 (EST)

A good source for this article would be John Bierman and Colin Smiths book The Battle of Alamein, which details how the Afrika Korps were stopped at the First Battle of El Alamein and then defeated at the Second Battle of El Alamein. British casualties were high because the second battle involved the Eighth Army attacking the Afrika Korps with the result that many British Imperial soldiers marched into World War I type machine-gun fire. The British did win, however. --WOVcenter 21:54, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

Operation Torch

Actually I don't think it is strictly accurate to say that Operation Torch defeated the Afrika Korps for two reasons: (1) I think Torch had finished by that time; and (2) The Afrika Korps were caught between the Americans and the British. I will look it up and return later. --Horace 22:27, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Steep learning curve?

I fail to see what relevance a the steep learning curve the americans faced has on the Afrika Corps. It is not entirely relevant.--Matthew2208 18:19, 30 December 2009 (EST)

The Afrika Corps taught the Americans a lot of lessons. RJJensen 18:25, 30 December 2009 (EST)

Yes but how does that qualify for its inclusion in an article ON the Afrika corps? I'm going to attempt a revision.--Matthew2208 18:33, 30 December 2009 (EST)

Could you please site a reason for your revision? It is muddying the article.--Matthew2208 18:49, 30 December 2009 (EST)

It was put back by sysops, so they must think it is relevant. On such issues, I defer to the people in charge.--Wuhao1911 18:55, 30 December 2009 (EST)

I agree. That section belongs in an article on the overall North African theater. It either needs to be moved to such an article, or this article should be redone to cover the entire theater. I would prefer two articles, in order to maintain a proper level of detail.--Manhattan 16:56, 27 July 2010 (EDT)