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:I'll add that I think you should apply to be a Canadian citizen, I'm not kidding and it's relatively simple. Enter their healthcare system. If treatment means life, you have no options then go there. However, can you afford to wait in line with all the other Canadians suffering the same ailments, sometimes years? They will draw your name from a lottery and give you a shout-out "you won" visit to see the doc, because that is how "healthcare for all" works.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 13:37, 16 January 2010 (EST)

::Even if the rather extreme view you gave was true, Kwasi92 would still have a better chance of getting treatment in Canada than in the US. There is no lottery; there's a queue, and if at any point your ailment becomes near-immediately life threatening they will treat it anyway (I'm no expert on Canada's system; I'm assuming it's similar to Britain's). The DoI gives "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as unalienable rights, and I don't understand how so many people feel comfortable with a system that allows all three to be infringed upon; the first is obvious, the second by forcing people into debt to pay for high healthcare bills, and the third by not allowing people with life-altering illnesses treatment unless they can pay for it. [[User:CharlieT|CharlieT]] 15:01, 16 January 2010 (EST)

::::Your link doesn't work, so I'll try again later. As I said, I'm unfamiliar with the Canadian system, but I highly doubt they use a lottery; I'm going by the British system, where your place in the queue decides when you get treatment. A doctor decides whether your problem has become immediately life-threatening, or you can call 999 and get an ambulance; it's not as if your appendix ruptures or your arm falls off and you have to wait two weeks for treatment; you will be rushed to hospital and operated on immediately. You don't go before a 'death panel' before or after which asks you how productive your life has been or tests your political loyalty <s>or asks whether you can pay</s>. I'll admit American healthcare is better, but that's because they can go about their business without regard to cost; they choose who to treat, confident in the knowledge that the bottom line doesn't matter, because the patient will pay; those that can't go out on their ear (unless, I'm hoping, it's a true emergency). American healthcare is probably better - for those who can get it. The system, however, I consider worse, for those who can't afford it don't get it. Socialized healthcare is probably worse, because a) they don't have a limitless amount of money to spend and b) they treat EVERYONE, so they have to treat more people, but still, I consider the socialized system the better of the two, because everyone receives treatment. My preference, however, is for a system like Britain's; private healthcare for those who want and can afford it, and that takes pressure off the socialized system which treats everyone else (and treats them well, however many scare stories about people waking up with three arms you hear). [[User:CharlieT|CharlieT]] 15:49, 16 January 2010 (EST)