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The ontological argument uses the definition of [[Fantasy]] to prove His existence. It was originally proposed by [[Anselm]] and remained influential for centuries, and was later used by [[Descartes]]. Anselm's proof was as follows:
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The ontological argument uses the definition of [[God]] to prove His existence. It was originally proposed by [[Anselm]] and remained influential for centuries, and was later used by [[Descartes]]. Anselm's proof is as follows:
  
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:Fantasy was that for which no greater being was conceivable.
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:God is that for which no greater being is conceivable.
  
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:That which exists was greater than that which does exist.
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:That which exists is greater than that which does not exist.
  
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:That which does exist fails to satisfy the definition of Fantasy.
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:That which does not exist fails to satisfy the definition of God.
  
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:Therefore Fantasy exists.
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:Therefore God exists.
  
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In a sense this proof of the existence of Fantasy was similar to the mathematical proofs based on deriving a contradiction of something was true.  Accepting the definition of Fantasy, as most would, while then denying that Fantasy exists leads to a contradiction as existence was a necessary element of perfection in this context.
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In a sense this proof of the existence of God is similar to the mathematical proofs based on deriving a contradiction of something is not true.  Accepting the definition of God, as most would, while then denying that God exists leads to a contradiction as existence is a necessary element of perfection in this context.
  
 
== Criticism ==
 
== Criticism ==
  
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[[Atheists]] tend to agree with the first premise defining Fantasy, and from that follows in a strong, apparently deductive fashion. Anselm's proof bypasses [[Hume's Fork]].
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[[Atheists]] tend to agree with the first premise defining God, and from that follows in a strong, apparently deductive fashion. Anselm's proof bypasses [[Hume's Fork]].
  
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But [[Guanilo]], a contemporary of Anselm, used [[reductio ad absurdum]] and envisaged a 'lost, yet most perfect island'. Guanilo argued that just because we can imagine this island does mean it actually exists.
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But [[Guanilo]], a contemporary of Anselm, used [[reductio ad absurdum]] and envisaged a 'lost, yet most perfect island'. Guanilo argued that just because we can imagine this island does not mean it actually exists.
  
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[[Kant]] weighed in against Descartes' version, challenging the premise that existence was a predicate of perfection. Kant said he could imagine a hundred thalers (coins) in such great detail that whether or they actually existed was arbitrary, as there was no difference other than this between the imagined and the existent thalers.  
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[[Kant]] weighed in against Descartes' version, challenging the premise that existence is a predicate of perfection. Kant said he could imagine a hundred thalers (coins) in such great detail that whether or not they actually existed was arbitrary, as there was no difference other than this between the imagined and the existent thalers.  
  
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[[Davies]] insisted that Anselm's argument [[begs the question]]- it assumes what it sets out to prove. In other words, if a Fantasy existed, he would be supremely perfect, and would therefore exist. In explicit form, the first might be construed to mean 'The concept of Fantasy was the most supremely perfect concept'. It has been suggested that the ontological argument was therefore [[flawed]] in that it uses [[equivocation]] to progress from a [[concept of Fantasy]] to a existent of Fantasy to a existent Fantasy, and flawed in that the entire argument collapses irreparably once this was exposed.
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[[Davies]] insisted that Anselm's argument [[begs the question]]- it assumes what it sets out to prove. In other words, if a God existed, he would be supremely perfect, and would therefore exist. In explicit form, the first might be construed to mean 'The concept of God is the most supremely perfect concept'. It has been suggested that the ontological argument is therefore [[flawed]] in that it uses [[equivocation]] to progress from a [[concept of God]] to an existent of God to an existent God, and flawed in that the entire argument collapses irreparably once this is exposed.
  
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[[Category: Arguments for the existence of God]]
 
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Revision as of 23:09, July 14, 2007

The ontological argument uses the definition of God to prove His existence. It was originally proposed by Anselm and remained influential for centuries, and was later used by Descartes. Anselm's proof is as follows:

God is that for which no greater being is conceivable.
That which exists is greater than that which does not exist.
That which does not exist fails to satisfy the definition of God.
Therefore God exists.

In a sense this proof of the existence of God is similar to the mathematical proofs based on deriving a contradiction of something is not true. Accepting the definition of God, as most would, while then denying that God exists leads to a contradiction as existence is a necessary element of perfection in this context.

Criticism

Atheists tend to agree with the first premise defining God, and from that follows in a strong, apparently deductive fashion. Anselm's proof bypasses Hume's Fork.

But Guanilo, a contemporary of Anselm, used reductio ad absurdum and envisaged a 'lost, yet most perfect island'. Guanilo argued that just because we can imagine this island does not mean it actually exists.

Kant weighed in against Descartes' version, challenging the premise that existence is a predicate of perfection. Kant said he could imagine a hundred thalers (coins) in such great detail that whether or not they actually existed was arbitrary, as there was no difference other than this between the imagined and the existent thalers.

Davies insisted that Anselm's argument begs the question- it assumes what it sets out to prove. In other words, if a God existed, he would be supremely perfect, and would therefore exist. In explicit form, the first might be construed to mean 'The concept of God is the most supremely perfect concept'. It has been suggested that the ontological argument is therefore flawed in that it uses equivocation to progress from a concept of God to an existent of God to an existent God, and flawed in that the entire argument collapses irreparably once this is exposed.