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"However, others contend that the universe is only 6,000 years old, so this conclusion is often considered to be mistaken." As an indigenous Australian, this is an insult to both my religious beliefs and my culture. As an educated man with as good an understanding of science, the bible, and creationism as any other layperson, this is an insult to my intelligence. I'd like to request an edit on exactly the same grounds that Young Earth Creationists on this site routinely request edits of articles that offend their religious sensibilities. [[User:203.166.0.220|203.166.0.220]] 07:09, 12 June 2007 (EDT) | "However, others contend that the universe is only 6,000 years old, so this conclusion is often considered to be mistaken." As an indigenous Australian, this is an insult to both my religious beliefs and my culture. As an educated man with as good an understanding of science, the bible, and creationism as any other layperson, this is an insult to my intelligence. I'd like to request an edit on exactly the same grounds that Young Earth Creationists on this site routinely request edits of articles that offend their religious sensibilities. [[User:203.166.0.220|203.166.0.220]] 07:09, 12 June 2007 (EDT) | ||
:Could you please explain just how it insults you and how you would like it changed? I know of nothing in Aboriginal culture (as distinct from uniformitarian science) which conflicts with this statement. On the contrary, Aboriginal stories speak of Aborigines being created, whereas uniformitarian/evolutionary science has taught that Aborigines are not as evolved as Europeans. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:38, 12 June 2007 (EDT) | :Could you please explain just how it insults you and how you would like it changed? I know of nothing in Aboriginal culture (as distinct from uniformitarian science) which conflicts with this statement. On the contrary, Aboriginal stories speak of Aborigines being created, whereas uniformitarian/evolutionary science has taught that Aborigines are not as evolved as Europeans. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:38, 12 June 2007 (EDT) | ||
| + | ::I never claim to know why other people think what they do. I can, however, understand that aboriginal people have pride in the claim that they can trace a civilised heritage back 40 - 50 or more 1,000s of years which is based in an ancient dreamtime. It is obvious that the Young Earth vs Old Earth groups will never agree on anything which claims a longer time frame that the Young Earth group will accept so it seems that an article which expresses both points of view is better than one which refuses to acknowledge either. Especially on a site like this one. The insult to the religious beliefs is that the Young Earth theory is based on the certainty that the history of the world as presented in the Jewish scriptures is the only accpetable and correct history of the world - therefore, as a for granted point of view, the aboriginal religion is wrong - the creation stories of the aboriginal people come from a tradition which is much older than the Semetic one. I can only think of some very backward racists who would claim that one race of humanity is more or less "evolved" than another race. Evolutionary theory tends to look at species rather than variations within a species and I think that there would be very few evolutionists who would claim that one race is lesser than another due to evolution. Anyway, that's me for now. Have a good night/morning y'all. --[[User:Bilby|Bilby]] 10:11, 12 June 2007 (EDT) | ||
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"However, others contend that the universe is only 6,000 years old, so this conclusion is often considered to be mistaken." As an indigenous Australian, this is an insult to both my religious beliefs and my culture. As an educated man with as good an understanding of science, the bible, and creationism as any other layperson, this is an insult to my intelligence. I'd like to request an edit on exactly the same grounds that Young Earth Creationists on this site routinely request edits of articles that offend their religious sensibilities. 203.166.0.220 07:09, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
- Could you please explain just how it insults you and how you would like it changed? I know of nothing in Aboriginal culture (as distinct from uniformitarian science) which conflicts with this statement. On the contrary, Aboriginal stories speak of Aborigines being created, whereas uniformitarian/evolutionary science has taught that Aborigines are not as evolved as Europeans. Philip J. Rayment 07:38, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
- I never claim to know why other people think what they do. I can, however, understand that aboriginal people have pride in the claim that they can trace a civilised heritage back 40 - 50 or more 1,000s of years which is based in an ancient dreamtime. It is obvious that the Young Earth vs Old Earth groups will never agree on anything which claims a longer time frame that the Young Earth group will accept so it seems that an article which expresses both points of view is better than one which refuses to acknowledge either. Especially on a site like this one. The insult to the religious beliefs is that the Young Earth theory is based on the certainty that the history of the world as presented in the Jewish scriptures is the only accpetable and correct history of the world - therefore, as a for granted point of view, the aboriginal religion is wrong - the creation stories of the aboriginal people come from a tradition which is much older than the Semetic one. I can only think of some very backward racists who would claim that one race of humanity is more or less "evolved" than another race. Evolutionary theory tends to look at species rather than variations within a species and I think that there would be very few evolutionists who would claim that one race is lesser than another due to evolution. Anyway, that's me for now. Have a good night/morning y'all. --Bilby 10:11, 12 June 2007 (EDT)