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:I could also point out the 2nd amendment gives the militia the right, not the individual. Further, there is no "right" to produce and sell firearms--in case anyone cares. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 13:34, 26 April 2007 (EDT) | :I could also point out the 2nd amendment gives the militia the right, not the individual. Further, there is no "right" to produce and sell firearms--in case anyone cares. [[User:Flippin|Flippin]] 13:34, 26 April 2007 (EDT) | ||
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| + | *The United Nations (an anti-semitic organization) doesn't know a damn thing about human rights. It's the gang that stood by and watch the genocide in Rwanda! The right to own a firearm, is based on the right to self-defense, i.e., the right to those means to defend oneself against those who wish to destroy one's life. The right to self-defense is itself is a corollary of the right to life. This is common sense! -- [[User:AmeriCan|AmeriCan]] 21:00, 26 April 2007 (EDT) | ||
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Where did the this kkk information come from? That is not true.Bohdan 15:32, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
now it looks better, thank youBohdan
- The NRA cite says nothing about this, infact, it appears Black Codes in several Southern states prohibited Blacks from owning fire arms. [1] RobS 15:47, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
- nor is the Klan mentioned on the NRA's official 'about us' history; in fact, all the early activity mentioned was in the North (New York, New Jersey, Ohio). According to the search feature on their site, the only two pages on nra.org that mention ku klux klan are http://www.nraila.org/issues/articles/read.aspx?id=105&issue=011 and http://www.nraila.org/issues/articles/read.aspx?id=16&issue=020 . The first one of those -- an essay complaining about the racism they think Michael Moore accuses them of -- would have been a natural place to mention it, if it were in fact true. --Jtl 23:23, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
- That's evidently what this is, somebody trying to insert Micheal Moore disinformation into this article, and the cite doesn't support his claim or Michael Moores. RobS 23:33, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
- nor is the Klan mentioned on the NRA's official 'about us' history; in fact, all the early activity mentioned was in the North (New York, New Jersey, Ohio). According to the search feature on their site, the only two pages on nra.org that mention ku klux klan are http://www.nraila.org/issues/articles/read.aspx?id=105&issue=011 and http://www.nraila.org/issues/articles/read.aspx?id=16&issue=020 . The first one of those -- an essay complaining about the racism they think Michael Moore accuses them of -- would have been a natural place to mention it, if it were in fact true. --Jtl 23:23, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
Constitutional right or human right?
Before me and AmeriCan start an edit war over this, I would invite him/her to readlthis. These are your human rights. Right to bear arms is not one of them. The Second Amendment, on the other hand, grants a constitutional right to bear arms. The two are different. Sorry for any misunderstanding. --Wikinterpretertalk?
- I could also point out the 2nd amendment gives the militia the right, not the individual. Further, there is no "right" to produce and sell firearms--in case anyone cares. Flippin 13:34, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
- The United Nations (an anti-semitic organization) doesn't know a damn thing about human rights. It's the gang that stood by and watch the genocide in Rwanda! The right to own a firearm, is based on the right to self-defense, i.e., the right to those means to defend oneself against those who wish to destroy one's life. The right to self-defense is itself is a corollary of the right to life. This is common sense! -- AmeriCan 21:00, 26 April 2007 (EDT)