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*My name is Rob Smith.  I am a writer, Historian and Administrator on Conservapedia. Any assistance I may be please ask on my Talk page or privately by e-mail.
 
*My name is Rob Smith.  I am a writer, Historian and Administrator on Conservapedia. Any assistance I may be please ask on my Talk page or privately by e-mail.
  
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<big>'''Clausewitz, ''On War'','''</big> 1873 English translation.
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<big>'''Useful stuff'''</big>
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*[http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/irhistry.htm Documents of Diplomatic History]
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*[http://fletcher.tufts.edu/inter_resources/dhpgenresources.html Fletcher School at Tufts International Relations Resources]
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_how-to_guide How-to]
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<center><big><b>''More shocking revelations of the Nation's vital secrets emerged from the dark recess chambers of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigation when it declassified its long held Executive Session transcripts.  Senator Jospeh R. McCarthy and Chief Counsel Roy Cohn, vile scum that they are, clearly step over the line of abuse with this witness, <br>(though it should be noted, this is in the pre - Miranda warning age....''</b></big></center><br>
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Mr. Cohn. Mr Varley, as a matter of fact. To put it frankly here, you are not very careful about telling the truth, are you?
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Mr.Varley. I think I do tell the truth.
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Mr. Cohn. Well, now, you were before a grand jury, and I asked you, before the grand jury, whether or not you had ever been arrested or convicted, and you denied it at first and then admitted it later; isn’t that a fact?
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Mr.Varley. I don’t know what—[consulting with counsel].
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Would you mind repeating the question, please.
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Mr. Cohn. Read the question, please.
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[Whereupon, the last question was read by the reporter.]
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Mr. Varley. I never admitted that I was arrested.
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Mr. Cohn. You never admitted that you were arrested?
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Mr. Varley. No.
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Mr.Cohn. You still don’t think you were arrested?
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Mr. Varley. That’s right.
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Mr. Cohn. I see. You got some good legal opinions about that; is that right?
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The CHAIRMAN. Is it your testimony that you have never been arrested?
  
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Book I—On the Nature of War
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Mr. Varley. That’s right, sir.
  
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Chapter I
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Mr. Cohn. What do you think, the records of the New York Police Department are forged?
  
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What is War?
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Mr. Varley. Well, I asked my lawyer to consult the records and also tried to recollect the matter, and all my
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recollection was that I was summoned before the court of magistrates.
  
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1. Introduction.  
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Mr. Cohn. Isn’t it a fact—I regret the necessity of going into this again—but isn’t it a fact that you were found by members of the New York City Police Department in the men’s room and 50-something Street and Lexington Avenue on December 29, 1941, arrested on a morals charge, and that you plead guilty and paid the fines, or you were given an alternative of a fine or jail sentence and you paid the fines, not only for yourself but for the other man who was taken in along with you, name Leonardo Boronek? Isn’t that a fact?
  
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WE propose to consider first the single elements ...to advance from the simple to the complex....in the consideration of any of the parts the whole should be kept constantly in view.
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Mr. Varley. Would you give me the question?
  
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2. Definition.  
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[Whereupon, the last question was read by the reporter.]
  
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War therefore is an act of violence to compel our opponent to fulfil our will.  
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Mr. Cohn. Before you get to that, would you please add this, Mr. Stenographer: the names of the policemen were Valetine Piccitrilli and William Vogel.  Now, would you answer that question?
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[[Image:Cohn.gif|left|frame|Roy Cohn, alleged rumors say he was a closet [[Pinko]]. McCarthy, driven to [[insanity]] by an endless parade of liars, drank himself to death.]]
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Mr. Varley. This is not a fact.
  
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... the compulsory submission of the enemy to our will is the ultimate object. In order to attain this object fully, the enemy must be disarmed; and this is, correctly speaking, the real aim of hostilities in theory. It takes the place of the final object, and puts it aside in a manner as something not properly belonging to war.  
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Mr. Cohn. Tell me where it isn’t a fact.
  
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3. Utmost use of force.  
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Mr. Varley. I was never arrested, and I was never convicted on a morals charge.
  
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... that war is an act of violence, which in its application knows no bounds; as one dictates the law to the other, there arises a sort of reciprocal action, which in the conception, must lead to an extreme. This is the first reciprocal action, and the first extreme with which we meet (first reciprocal action).  
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Mr. Cohn. Tell us what happened.
  
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'''4.—The aim is to disarm the enemy'''.
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The CHAIRMAN. Were you picked up by the policemen?
  
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We have already said that '''the aim of the action in war is to disarm the enemy''', and we shall now show that this in theoretical conception at least is necessary.  
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Mr. Varley. The policemen did talk to me, but I was not arrested.
  
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If our opponent is to be made to comply with our will, we must place him in a situation which is more oppressive to him than the sacrifice which we demand; but '''the disadvantages of this position must naturally not be of a transitory nature, at least in appearance, otherwise the enemy, instead of yielding, will hold out''', in the prospect of a change for the better. Every change in this position which is produced by a continuation of the war, should therefore be a change for the worse, at least, in idea. The worst position in which a belligerent can be placed is that of being completely disarmed. If, therefore, the enemy is to be reduced to submission by an act of war, he must either be positively disarmed or placed in such a position that he is threatened with it according to probability. From this it follows that '''the disarming or overthrow of the enemy''', whichever we call it, '''must always be the aim of warfare'''. Now war is always the shock of two hostile bodies in collision, not the action of a living power upon an inanimate mass, because an absolute state of endurance would not be making war; therefore what we have just said as to the aim of action in war applies to both parties. Here then is another case of reciprocal action. '''As long as the enemy is not defeated, I have to apprehend that he may defeat me, then I shall be no longer my own master, but he will dictate the law to me as I did to him'''. This is the second reciprocal action and leads to a second extreme (second reciprocal action).
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The Chairman. Did they take you along with them?
  
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Mr. Varley. The policemen told me that—
  
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The Chairman. Did they take you along with them?
  
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Mr. Varley. No, they didn’t.  The policemen told me, as I recollect it, that after we had very brief discussion, “Let the magistrate’s court figure that out,” words to that effect.
  
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The Chairman. Did they take you down to the magistrate?
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Mr. Varley. We went to the magistrate’s court, all together.
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The Chairman. The policemen picked you up, they took you down to the magistrate; is that right?
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Mr. Varley. He didn’t pick me up.  He said that “Well, let all of us go to the magistrate court.”
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The Chairman.  All right.  When I say “picked you up,” what do you understand that I mean?
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You said he didn’t pick you up.  What do you think it means to get picked up?
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Mr. Varley. That the counsel says, to be arrested.
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The Chairman. And the policeman came in and took you to the magistrate; is that right?
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Mr. Varley. He said, “Let’s go to the magistrate.” He didn’t say, “You are arrested.” I didn’t resist—
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The Chairman. Did he take you down in a police car? Did they take you down in a police car?
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Mr. Varley. I think it was an ordinary automobile.
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The Chairman. They took you down in their car, did they?
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Mr. Varley. We went in their car.
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The Chairman. All right. They took you to the magistrate?
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Mr. Varley. We went down to the magistrate’s court.
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The Chairman. They took you in their car to the magistrate, is that correct?
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Mr. Varley. May I say how I remember what happened?
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The Chairman. No, you answer my questions. I may say that if the policeman’s testimony is correct, you perjured yourself about three times now.  You can keep on if you want to, or you can tell us the truth.
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I will repeat the question: Did they take you in their car to the magistrate?  Either yes or no?
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Mr. Varley.  Yes.
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The Chairman. They did, all right.  Did they file charges against you?
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Mr. Varley. Yes, there was a summons by a policeman.
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The Chairman.  All right. And were you found guilty?
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Mr. Varley. I pleaded guilty.
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The Chairman. You pleaded guilty?
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Mr. Varley. Yes.
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The Chaiman. You paid a fine?
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Mr. Varley. I paid a fine.
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The Chairman. And did you pay the other man’s fine, too?
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Mr. Varley.  I did.
  
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*[http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/irhistry.htm Documents of Diplomatic History]
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The Chairman. You say you were never arrested?
  
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*[http://fletcher.tufts.edu/inter_resources/dhpgenresources.html Fletcher School at Tufts International Relations Resources]
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Mr. Varley. Yes, sir.
  
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* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_how-to_guide How-to]
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The Chairman. Mr. Cohn, I want this transmitted to the U.S. attorney, a clear case of perjury.

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More shocking revelations of the Nation's vital secrets emerged from the dark recess chambers of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigation when it declassified its long held Executive Session transcripts. Senator Jospeh R. McCarthy and Chief Counsel Roy Cohn, vile scum that they are, clearly step over the line of abuse with this witness,
(though it should be noted, this is in the pre - Miranda warning age....


Mr. Cohn. Mr Varley, as a matter of fact. To put it frankly here, you are not very careful about telling the truth, are you?

Mr.Varley. I think I do tell the truth.

Mr. Cohn. Well, now, you were before a grand jury, and I asked you, before the grand jury, whether or not you had ever been arrested or convicted, and you denied it at first and then admitted it later; isn’t that a fact?

Mr.Varley. I don’t know what—[consulting with counsel].

Would you mind repeating the question, please.

Mr. Cohn. Read the question, please.

[Whereupon, the last question was read by the reporter.]

Mr. Varley. I never admitted that I was arrested.

Mr. Cohn. You never admitted that you were arrested?

Mr. Varley. No.

Mr.Cohn. You still don’t think you were arrested?

Mr. Varley. That’s right.

Mr. Cohn. I see. You got some good legal opinions about that; is that right?

The CHAIRMAN. Is it your testimony that you have never been arrested?

Mr. Varley. That’s right, sir.

Mr. Cohn. What do you think, the records of the New York Police Department are forged?

Mr. Varley. Well, I asked my lawyer to consult the records and also tried to recollect the matter, and all my recollection was that I was summoned before the court of magistrates.

Mr. Cohn. Isn’t it a fact—I regret the necessity of going into this again—but isn’t it a fact that you were found by members of the New York City Police Department in the men’s room and 50-something Street and Lexington Avenue on December 29, 1941, arrested on a morals charge, and that you plead guilty and paid the fines, or you were given an alternative of a fine or jail sentence and you paid the fines, not only for yourself but for the other man who was taken in along with you, name Leonardo Boronek? Isn’t that a fact?

Mr. Varley. Would you give me the question?

[Whereupon, the last question was read by the reporter.]

Mr. Cohn. Before you get to that, would you please add this, Mr. Stenographer: the names of the policemen were Valetine Piccitrilli and William Vogel. Now, would you answer that question?

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Roy Cohn, alleged rumors say he was a closet Pinko. McCarthy, driven to insanity by an endless parade of liars, drank himself to death.

Mr. Varley. This is not a fact.

Mr. Cohn. Tell me where it isn’t a fact.

Mr. Varley. I was never arrested, and I was never convicted on a morals charge.

Mr. Cohn. Tell us what happened.

The CHAIRMAN. Were you picked up by the policemen?

Mr. Varley. The policemen did talk to me, but I was not arrested.

The Chairman. Did they take you along with them?

Mr. Varley. The policemen told me that—

The Chairman. Did they take you along with them?

Mr. Varley. No, they didn’t. The policemen told me, as I recollect it, that after we had very brief discussion, “Let the magistrate’s court figure that out,” words to that effect.

The Chairman. Did they take you down to the magistrate?

Mr. Varley. We went to the magistrate’s court, all together.

The Chairman. The policemen picked you up, they took you down to the magistrate; is that right?

Mr. Varley. He didn’t pick me up. He said that “Well, let all of us go to the magistrate court.”

The Chairman. All right. When I say “picked you up,” what do you understand that I mean? You said he didn’t pick you up. What do you think it means to get picked up?

Mr. Varley. That the counsel says, to be arrested.

The Chairman. And the policeman came in and took you to the magistrate; is that right?

Mr. Varley. He said, “Let’s go to the magistrate.” He didn’t say, “You are arrested.” I didn’t resist—

The Chairman. Did he take you down in a police car? Did they take you down in a police car?

Mr. Varley. I think it was an ordinary automobile.

The Chairman. They took you down in their car, did they?

Mr. Varley. We went in their car.

The Chairman. All right. They took you to the magistrate?

Mr. Varley. We went down to the magistrate’s court.

The Chairman. They took you in their car to the magistrate, is that correct?

Mr. Varley. May I say how I remember what happened?

The Chairman. No, you answer my questions. I may say that if the policeman’s testimony is correct, you perjured yourself about three times now. You can keep on if you want to, or you can tell us the truth. I will repeat the question: Did they take you in their car to the magistrate? Either yes or no?

Mr. Varley. Yes.

The Chairman. They did, all right. Did they file charges against you?

Mr. Varley. Yes, there was a summons by a policeman.

The Chairman. All right. And were you found guilty?

Mr. Varley. I pleaded guilty.

The Chairman. You pleaded guilty?

Mr. Varley. Yes.

The Chaiman. You paid a fine?

Mr. Varley. I paid a fine.

The Chairman. And did you pay the other man’s fine, too?

Mr. Varley. I did.

The Chairman. You say you were never arrested?

Mr. Varley. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. Mr. Cohn, I want this transmitted to the U.S. attorney, a clear case of perjury.

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