Difference between revisions of "Talk:Proposition 8"
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::You act as if direct personal knowledge is somehow inferior to reading something from the press. Not everyone decides to call a press conference to draw attention to themselves, especially when it threatens the welfare of their families. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:31, 7 November 2008 (EST) | ::You act as if direct personal knowledge is somehow inferior to reading something from the press. Not everyone decides to call a press conference to draw attention to themselves, especially when it threatens the welfare of their families. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:31, 7 November 2008 (EST) | ||
:::That works for you, Learn together, as you are a trusted sysop. I trust what you say. However a personal testimony needs to go through the same rigorous test that a regular citation does (or, rather, that a regular citation ''should''). There's nothing to stop someone from saying "well I was there and I can say that the protesters didn't break the law," and we'd be at a standstill. Perhaps this particular case isn't the best example, but I hope I've shown that using personal references in principle can have unwanted outcomes elsewhere on the site. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:43, 7 November 2008 (EST) | :::That works for you, Learn together, as you are a trusted sysop. I trust what you say. However a personal testimony needs to go through the same rigorous test that a regular citation does (or, rather, that a regular citation ''should''). There's nothing to stop someone from saying "well I was there and I can say that the protesters didn't break the law," and we'd be at a standstill. Perhaps this particular case isn't the best example, but I hope I've shown that using personal references in principle can have unwanted outcomes elsewhere on the site. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:43, 7 November 2008 (EST) | ||
| + | :::That being said, I did find a reference, so now everyone should be happy :) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:47, 7 November 2008 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 17:47, November 7, 2008
I know some of the leaders of the Yes on 8 movement. As they have no wish to become martyrs, I do not wish to provide further information in that area. The protesters broke the law. Emphasizing its peaceful elements misses the points brought up by the reference. Learn together 12:06, 7 November 2008 (EST)
- So you have no objective references to these claims, just your personal assurance that they're true? --Jareddr 12:14, 7 November 2008 (EST)
- You act as if direct personal knowledge is somehow inferior to reading something from the press. Not everyone decides to call a press conference to draw attention to themselves, especially when it threatens the welfare of their families. Learn together 12:31, 7 November 2008 (EST)
- That works for you, Learn together, as you are a trusted sysop. I trust what you say. However a personal testimony needs to go through the same rigorous test that a regular citation does (or, rather, that a regular citation should). There's nothing to stop someone from saying "well I was there and I can say that the protesters didn't break the law," and we'd be at a standstill. Perhaps this particular case isn't the best example, but I hope I've shown that using personal references in principle can have unwanted outcomes elsewhere on the site. HelpJazz 12:43, 7 November 2008 (EST)
- That being said, I did find a reference, so now everyone should be happy :) HelpJazz 12:47, 7 November 2008 (EST)
- You act as if direct personal knowledge is somehow inferior to reading something from the press. Not everyone decides to call a press conference to draw attention to themselves, especially when it threatens the welfare of their families. Learn together 12:31, 7 November 2008 (EST)