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Oh, a head of state. Wasn't he a terrorist, too? --Wing Nut 14:38, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
- Quite right. The liberals are trying to cover that up.
- 4. We do not attempt to be neutral to all points of view. We are neutral to the facts. If a group is a terrorist group, then the label "terrorist" is used here but not on Wikipedia. (See Differences_with_Wikipedia)
- BillyBoy 14:43, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
If your definition of "terrorist" is elastic enough to include Mandela and the struggle for racial freedom in South Africa, it's elastic enough to include George Washington and the American Revolution. There are times when violence is the only available recourse in the pursuit of freedom. Apartheid - like "taxation without representation" was one of those times. Jacobin 17:51, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
Such rediculous comparisons are hardly benignant or applicable Jacobin. The ANC (speaking specifically in regards to Umkhonto we Sizwe, of which Mandela was head) was under all prexisting contexts a terrorist organization, and cocurrently, there was a reason Mandela was in prison in the first place. Killing Civilians, especially women and children to reach your goals is hardly an admirable nor honorable action of which you so hastily ignore under the pretext of persuing racial freedom. Willink 17:02, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
There is no mention of the Mandela's criticisms of Bush: a point that the liberal Wikipedia is not remiss in making. Conservatives would want to know what this man stands for. Jason 10:33, 03 May 2007 (EDT)
Mandela was convicted of terrorism
Nelson Mandela was convicted of terrorism by a court of law, it is irrelevant whether or not he is, in your personal opinion, a terrorist. He is a convicted terrorist, who was released prematurely for political reasons.
Some people don't consider Osama Bin Laden a terrorist, does that mean we should refrain from calling him one on his article?
- Alfred, I hope you'll find that your desire to use this wiki as a soapbox for the rehabilitation of apartheid will be met with a cold shoulder at best. Trying to compare Mandela with Bin Laden is inexcusable. Yes, the ANC used violence in the fight against apartheid - as well they had to, since apartheid--like all colonialism--was a violent state of affairs. AliceBG 09:59, 5 June 2008 (EDT)