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'''"Helpless" babies and sinners in the Bible''' are discussed in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A11-16&version=RSVCE Ephesians 2:11-16] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A12-19&version=RSVCE and Romans 5:12-19]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A6-11&version=RSVCE Romans 5:6-11] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A31-39&version=RSVCE and 8:31-39]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A13&version=RSVCE 2 Timothy 2:13] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+1%3A19-22&version=RSVCE and 2 Corinthians 1:19-22] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A35&version=RSVCE and John 10:35]. This directly relates to the subject of [[Salvation]] and [[Infant baptism]]. | '''"Helpless" babies and sinners in the Bible''' are discussed in [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A11-16&version=RSVCE Ephesians 2:11-16] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A12-19&version=RSVCE and Romans 5:12-19]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A6-11&version=RSVCE Romans 5:6-11] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A31-39&version=RSVCE and 8:31-39]; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A13&version=RSVCE 2 Timothy 2:13] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+1%3A19-22&version=RSVCE and 2 Corinthians 1:19-22] [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A35&version=RSVCE and John 10:35]. This directly relates to the subject of [[Salvation]] and [[Infant baptism]]. | ||
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| + | The word "[[faith]]" does not appear in any of these passages. Infants without faith and hope and God are helpless, and God saves them "while they are still helpless" by baptism with water and the word <ref>[http://biblehub.com/commentaries/ephesians/5-26.htm Ephesians 5:26]</ref>. | ||
The [[Theology|theological]] [[controversy]] between the [[doctrine]] of both [[Catholic Church|Catholicism]] and [[Orthodox Church|Orthodoxy]] on salvation together, and the doctrinal position on salvation represented by the [[Protestantism|Protestant]] division between [[Reformed Churches|Reformation Theology]] and [[Arminianism]], is rooted in [[the Gospel]] [[argument]] that Jesus died to save the helpless and powerless who have no faith, "having no hope and without God in the world" <ref> [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A11-16%2CRomans+5%3A12-99&version=KJV;RSVCE Ephesians 2:11-16 and Romans 5:12-19]. </ref> No one is more helpless than the pagan groping in the darkness of [[Ignorance|ignorant unbelief]] without any real knowledge of the Gospel of Christ, and the unborn, newborn, infant, baby, or child in arms who cannot walk, and has no conscious faith and no conscious hope <ref> [http://biblehub.com/greek/1025.htm '''βρέφη''' ''brephe''] ([http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/18-15.htm Luke 18:15]). <br> Compare [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A6-11%2CRomans+8%3A31-39&version=KJV;RSVCE Romans 5:6-11 and 8:31-39] </ref> Yet [http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%203%3A5 Jesus says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God."] | The [[Theology|theological]] [[controversy]] between the [[doctrine]] of both [[Catholic Church|Catholicism]] and [[Orthodox Church|Orthodoxy]] on salvation together, and the doctrinal position on salvation represented by the [[Protestantism|Protestant]] division between [[Reformed Churches|Reformation Theology]] and [[Arminianism]], is rooted in [[the Gospel]] [[argument]] that Jesus died to save the helpless and powerless who have no faith, "having no hope and without God in the world" <ref> [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A11-16%2CRomans+5%3A12-99&version=KJV;RSVCE Ephesians 2:11-16 and Romans 5:12-19]. </ref> No one is more helpless than the pagan groping in the darkness of [[Ignorance|ignorant unbelief]] without any real knowledge of the Gospel of Christ, and the unborn, newborn, infant, baby, or child in arms who cannot walk, and has no conscious faith and no conscious hope <ref> [http://biblehub.com/greek/1025.htm '''βρέφη''' ''brephe''] ([http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/18-15.htm Luke 18:15]). <br> Compare [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+5%3A6-11%2CRomans+8%3A31-39&version=KJV;RSVCE Romans 5:6-11 and 8:31-39] </ref> Yet [http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%203%3A5 Jesus says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God."] | ||
Taken all together within the context of the whole of the Bible and together with the Christian belief that God cannot contradict Himself, and that scripture cannot be broken, infant baptism is supported by the Bible. <ref> Compare [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A13%2C2+Corinthians+1%3A19-22%2CJohn+10%3A35&version=KJV;RSVCE 2 Timothy 2:13; 2 Corinthians 1:19-22; John 10:35]. </ref> | Taken all together within the context of the whole of the Bible and together with the Christian belief that God cannot contradict Himself, and that scripture cannot be broken, infant baptism is supported by the Bible. <ref> Compare [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A13%2C2+Corinthians+1%3A19-22%2CJohn+10%3A35&version=KJV;RSVCE 2 Timothy 2:13; 2 Corinthians 1:19-22; John 10:35]. </ref> | ||
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Revision as of 07:56, November 4, 2019
"Helpless" babies and sinners in the Bible are discussed in Ephesians 2:11-16 and Romans 5:12-19; Romans 5:6-11 and 8:31-39; 2 Timothy 2:13 and 2 Corinthians 1:19-22 and John 10:35. This directly relates to the subject of Salvation and Infant baptism.
The word "faith" does not appear in any of these passages. Infants without faith and hope and God are helpless, and God saves them "while they are still helpless" by baptism with water and the word [1].
The theological controversy between the doctrine of both Catholicism and Orthodoxy on salvation together, and the doctrinal position on salvation represented by the Protestant division between Reformation Theology and Arminianism, is rooted in the Gospel argument that Jesus died to save the helpless and powerless who have no faith, "having no hope and without God in the world" [2] No one is more helpless than the pagan groping in the darkness of ignorant unbelief without any real knowledge of the Gospel of Christ, and the unborn, newborn, infant, baby, or child in arms who cannot walk, and has no conscious faith and no conscious hope [3] Yet Jesus says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
Taken all together within the context of the whole of the Bible and together with the Christian belief that God cannot contradict Himself, and that scripture cannot be broken, infant baptism is supported by the Bible. [4]
See also
Salvation: declarational salvation and ontological salvation