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==NFL Templates==
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== Thoughts on clarifying some username policies. ==
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Thanks for making those NFL Templates. I noticed some of them weren't being used in the articles, so I inserted them. I hope you continue making those templates. --[[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] 16:29, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Ahh, thank you, yeah there was a question of what namespace they should go in for a while - but I think it's pretty much been resolved that the template namespace is adequate; and I certainly do plan on continuing soon! Thanks for putting them in consistently (I like the fact that you put it in its own section - that makes it a lot more clear and it also makes the pages nicer)--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 16:31, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:: Those templates were originally in template namespace, and I suggested (months ago) that they shouldn't be.  My reasons were as follows:
 
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::* If they are only used on one page, there's little point in making templates for them.
 
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::* Current policy is for templates to be locked, so if the roster changes (as I expect would happen reasonably often) then a sysop needs to change (or at least unlock) them.
 
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::* If you don't want complex tables cluttering up the article, then they could be put into a sub-page and linked into the article as a template.
 
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:: Now, if something has changed, such as them now being used on multiple pages, then that changes things, but otherwise I think they should not be in template namespace.  I've not seen any other discussion on this, so if there is one somewhere, and particularly if it mentions factors that I haven't considered, could you point me to it please?  I'm not laying this down as law, but I think it's pertinent to consider.
 
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:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:58, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::The only reason I said I thought they should be in the template namespace is because when I started transferring them to the mainspace others started telling me to stop ... I mean frankly I'm fine with you moving them, I'll even go back and fix all the links - because I actually believe that they should be in the mainspace (since they're only being used on one page) - but ultimately it's your call - just give me the heads up whatever you decide and I'll go in and change the links.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 10:20, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::: Where were those "others [who] started telling [you] to stop" doing so?  I'd like to see that conversation.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:31, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::::Re by email<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 11:55, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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The comment was sometime back - another sysop ultimately stopped my attempt to move the tables from the templatespace to the mainspace for that very reason; but again if you delete those templates (or move them depending on what's necessary), then I can fix all the links--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:32, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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: (Iduan advised by e-mail that the sysop is no longer with us, and the conversation was off Conservapedia).  The only references to where templates should be that I can find are:
 
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:* [[Help:Creating templates]] says that " templates are ''normally'' created in the "Template" namespace" (my emphasis).  I would consider this to be the nearest thing to a directive on the matter, and it clearly allows for exceptions.
 
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:* [[Help:How to create a new article#Templates]] says to "Precede the name with the word "template" and a colon."  However, I consider this to be a "how to" rather than a "must do", so it doesn't count.
 
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:* For what it's worth, [[User talk:Philip J. Rayment/Archive 4#Templates]] is a brief conversation I had some time back with Tash on this very subject.
 
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: So I'm not making policy here, but I'm saying that there's apparently no policy preventing a template being in a sub-page, and whilst we might not like that idea normally, this seems to me a pretty clear case of it being appropriate.
 
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: Please list the templates to be moved on [[User:Philip J. Rayment/Article renaming project|this page]], and you can also mark there when the links are fixed up.
 
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: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:58, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 
  
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== Guard dog ==
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Please check your email so I can ask some questions about these.--[[User:ChrisB00|ChrisB00]] 17:16, 19 February 2014 (EST)
  
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What's the deal with that? --[[User:MakeTomorrow|<font color="#00ff00">Make</font><font color="#0000ff">Tomorrow</font>]] 17:27, 8 February 2008 (EST)
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Also, I don't know why this posted three times.--[[User:ChrisB00|ChrisB00]] 17:18, 19 February 2014 (EST)
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:From what I've heard, and I'm not going to give away everything because I don't know what's final and what's not, it's an experimental program meant to more easily block vandals without the presence of admins - I was mistakenly blocked by it; but luckily Philip was there to explain.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 17:30, 8 February 2008 (EST)
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:I deleted the extra sections. Responded to your email - feel free to ask any questions. Just so everyone knows what I sent/to clarify:  Username policy is that you use your first name and last initial; you might see a few users who don't fit under that policy (Conservative, Karajou - even I use the opposite (although your first initial last name would also be okay)), but that is because those users predate the policy.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 18:11, 19 February 2014 (EST)
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::Sweet! That will be awesome...except then we don't get to block them ourselves. :/ [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 17:34, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::: It won't pick up all types of vandalism, so there will still be plenty of opportunities for you to block editors!  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:07, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Ah...Okay...still it's really awesome(genius). :P [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 18:16, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::Haha - it does sound pretty awesome - Philip = amazingness--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 17:36, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Very true![[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 17:37, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Wow, sounds like a very useful system. --[[User:Liam Spencer|'''<span style="background:#7BA05B;color:turquoise">&nbsp;L.S.&nbsp;</span>''']] 17:44, 8 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Looks pretty lame to me, but that may have just been the beta… --[[User:MakeTomorrow|<font color="#00ff00">Make</font><font color="#0000ff">Tomorrow</font>]] 10:30, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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: Sorry about that latest block. Rather than it needing a bit more fine tuning, in this case it appears to be a bug.  I've turned it right off for now, until I can find and fix the bug.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 16:59, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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::It's fine, don't worry about it. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|<font color="#00ff00">Make</font><font color="#0000ff">Tomorrow</font>]] 23:13, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::Uhmm - well I think he was actually referring to my block (since I was the latest), but regardless - it's fine philip, lol--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:18, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:::: I ''was'' referring to you, Iduan.  I've got no sympathy for MakeTomorrow who deliberately put it to the test. :-) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:26, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Congratulations. Looks good.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 17:28, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Thanks - I'm actually kind of nervous about the looks ... but I appreciate your support (oh and by the way - good thinking to use switch!)--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 17:31, 9 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Sorry if i missed this in the [[Conservapedia:Manual of Style|MOS]], but is there a preference to have singular or plural article names?  I found the [[Optic lobes]] article (plural title) and created [[Optic lobe]] with a redirect to it. I wasn't sure if what I did was ok, or if the singular title should redirect to the plural title, or if both are acceptable.--[[User:Recorder|Recorder]] 11:49, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:I changed the redirect to the singular. Redirecting to the plural makes linking more difficult. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 14:24, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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::Thanks.--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 22:36, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
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== Good boy! ==
 
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Thanks.
 
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--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 23:06, 12 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Great blocks. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] 21:06, 13 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Boy, you were quick!  [[Conservapedia:Guard dog|Guard dog]] alerted me to this, but before I could respond, you had!  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:15, 16 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Haha, IDuan = the new Guarddog? lol--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 23:15, 16 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Iduan, since you seem to be the one who organized this contest; I have a question: Could I be a contest judge? Thanks! :P [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 16:41, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:You should probably check with Andy - but if it's up to me: well, I just don't think you're reliable enough. Just kidding - of course! you'd be a great judge!--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 16:43, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 
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::Thanks! I will get Mr. Schlafly's permission and proceed from there! :P [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 16:44, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Not working, sorry. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:03, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Yeah I just realized that, my fault - thanks--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 19:22, 17 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Hey Iduan!  I was reading through your contributions.  That an amazing point total!  I just had one question: Why are [[Washington State University]] and [[Emory University]] counted as quality new entries although they do not have two paragraphs or three references?  I might be confused about the rules, but I was pretty sure that an entry had to meet those requirements in order to earn 20 points. Thanks, ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]]<sup>[[User talk:SharonS|Talk]]</sup> 06:15, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Yeah - I was wrong to call those quality - I actually got one of them confused with another article that I had written, but every thing's fixed now. Thanks,--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 12:32, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 
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[[Washington State University|this entry]] and [[Emory University|this entry]] are not quatlity new entries. Sorry! :{ [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 09:57, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 
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:Oh no - you're right, sorry, I'll change that now.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 12:16, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 
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::Thanks! :P [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 19:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 
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I'm not finished with [[Io]] yet! It's just that I need to get to bed right about now, and wanted to publish what I had already. I will have ''much'' to say about Io and its volcanism.
 
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You might also want to check out [[Ganymede]]. I think that Ganymede presents some problems for uniformitarian theories of the origin of the [[solar system]].--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 22:57, 18 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Well done, fantastic edits and work rate as we've come to expect! :D Win or lose, it was good fun testing our mettle against your team :) [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 07:22, 21 February 2008 (EST)
 
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Hello, I keep trying to properly reference my work using the techniques and tools suggested, but some of them don't seem to work properly, could you give me some pointers please, it would make my edits more accurate and help me convey the full meaning of what I'm trying to say, so that you don't get a garbled half-truth of what I was trying to say.  Thanks! [[User:Entheogenicorder|Entheogenicorder]] 13:22, 21 February 2008 (BWT)
 

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Thoughts on clarifying some username policies.

Please check your email so I can ask some questions about these.--ChrisB00 17:16, 19 February 2014 (EST)

Also, I don't know why this posted three times.--ChrisB00 17:18, 19 February 2014 (EST)

I deleted the extra sections. Responded to your email - feel free to ask any questions. Just so everyone knows what I sent/to clarify: Username policy is that you use your first name and last initial; you might see a few users who don't fit under that policy (Conservative, Karajou - even I use the opposite (although your first initial last name would also be okay)), but that is because those users predate the policy.--IDuan 18:11, 19 February 2014 (EST)
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