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::I can't think of very many gift givers who are responsible for defending any gifts, once given. It's always the gift '''''recipient''''' who needs to defend what's been received. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:51, 6 November 2016 (EDT) | ::I can't think of very many gift givers who are responsible for defending any gifts, once given. It's always the gift '''''recipient''''' who needs to defend what's been received. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:51, 6 November 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::What gift is this then and who is the giver? And who is the recipient? Why was this gift - these "unalienable rights" - given so selectively? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:19, 6 November 2016 (EDT) | :::What gift is this then and who is the giver? And who is the recipient? Why was this gift - these "unalienable rights" - given so selectively? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:19, 6 November 2016 (EDT) | ||
| + | As far as "all men are created equal", I am going to do some reading of books related to politics down the pike and I intend to read these book which seem interesting: | ||
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| + | *[https://www.amazon.com/Equality-Impossible-Martin-Van-Creveld/dp/9527065526/ref=sr_1_18/154-0989455-4877061?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1478421566&sr=1-18&refinements=p_27%3AMartin+Van+Creveld Equality: The Impossible Quest] | ||
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| + | *[https://www.amazon.com/Privileged-Sex-Martin-van-Creveld/dp/1484983122/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1478421642&sr=1-8&refinements=p_27%3AMartin+Van+Creveld The Privileged Sex] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:51, 6 November 2016 (EST) | ||
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| + | :Cons! How nice to be with you again! | ||
| + | ::I'll cut to the chase: These Unalienable Rights don't seem to have extended to the slaves. Didn't it say: '''All''' men...? | ||
| + | ::::(My comments above were sparked by my hearing Billie Holiday. Not a lot of people listen to her any more. Even Ella is being buried by the modern crap. And certainly, modern PC would not countenance the release of a single like "Strange Fruit". Even Bing's ''Buddy, Can You Spare A Dime?'' would not see the light of day these days.) | ||
| + | :The Unalienable Rights clause has always troubled me as has the "Home of the Free" claim in your national anthem. An expatriate American friend of mine opines that they are more statements of hope than fact. I hope he is right. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) | ||
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| + | ==Question== | ||
| + | Since the ''[[Obergefell]]'' decision, is [[gay marriage]] a [[God]]-given unalienable right? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:16, July 8, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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Who is responsible for defending these rights
God doesn't do a very good job of protecting these--just ask Nelson Mandela about how long he was in prison. --Gulik5 12:16, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
- When I read the phrase, "unalienable rights" in its historical context in the U.S. the cynic in me tends to think of the Billie Holiday song: Strange Fruit. It has always bothered me - especially the line that says: Then the sudden smell of burning flesh. It seems hanging wasn't enough. AlanE (talk) 00:13, 6 November 2016 (EDT)
- I can't think of very many gift givers who are responsible for defending any gifts, once given. It's always the gift recipient who needs to defend what's been received. Progressingamerica (talk) 00:51, 6 November 2016 (EDT)
As far as "all men are created equal", I am going to do some reading of books related to politics down the pike and I intend to read these book which seem interesting:
Martin van Creveld books:
- The Privileged Sex Conservative (talk) 03:51, 6 November 2016 (EST)
- Cons! How nice to be with you again!
- I'll cut to the chase: These Unalienable Rights don't seem to have extended to the slaves. Didn't it say: All men...?
- (My comments above were sparked by my hearing Billie Holiday. Not a lot of people listen to her any more. Even Ella is being buried by the modern crap. And certainly, modern PC would not countenance the release of a single like "Strange Fruit". Even Bing's Buddy, Can You Spare A Dime? would not see the light of day these days.)
- I'll cut to the chase: These Unalienable Rights don't seem to have extended to the slaves. Didn't it say: All men...?
- The Unalienable Rights clause has always troubled me as has the "Home of the Free" claim in your national anthem. An expatriate American friend of mine opines that they are more statements of hope than fact. I hope he is right. AlanE (talk)
Question
Since the Obergefell decision, is gay marriage a God-given unalienable right? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:16, July 8, 2024 (EDT)