Difference between revisions of "Talk:Food additives and addiction"

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::Can you find a citation for that? The FDA doesn't seem to think so. And people being afraid to consume it doesn't mean anything. See [[ad populum]]. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:21, 23 November 2008 (EST)
 
::Can you find a citation for that? The FDA doesn't seem to think so. And people being afraid to consume it doesn't mean anything. See [[ad populum]]. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:21, 23 November 2008 (EST)
 
::(ec)People being afraid of it is not indicative of being addictive.  I think what you're talking about is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_restaurant_syndrome "Chinese restaurant syndrome] which is kind of an urban legend [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamic_acid_(flavor)#Health_concerns}].  The restaurants say "No MSG" because people are afraid, yes, but that doesn't mean the people who are afraid are informed.  Life's a little rough over here right now, so I'm not sure if that really makes much sense.  I hope it helps, though.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 21:26, 23 November 2008 (EST)
 
::(ec)People being afraid of it is not indicative of being addictive.  I think what you're talking about is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_restaurant_syndrome "Chinese restaurant syndrome] which is kind of an urban legend [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamic_acid_(flavor)#Health_concerns}].  The restaurants say "No MSG" because people are afraid, yes, but that doesn't mean the people who are afraid are informed.  Life's a little rough over here right now, so I'm not sure if that really makes much sense.  I hope it helps, though.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 21:26, 23 November 2008 (EST)
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:::(edit conflict) I have added two quotes from doctors about MSG while you were writing this comment, I believe. Also, I think you are confused in your edit comment about "regulation and food scares". There is a big difference in liberals unduly calling for bans on [[trans fats]] and conservatives calling for regulation of poison and highly addictive drugs in food. Remember that the D in FDA is there for a reason: drugs. Not acceptable in food, in playgrounds or elsewhere.  -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 21:28, 23 November 2008 (EST)

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Food for thought (pun intended): the FDA has rated MSG as GRAS (generally recognized as safe) and its "acceptable daily intake" is "not specified", which is about as good as it gets. The UN and WHO both place MSG alongside salt and wheat.

I'm a little suspect of that reference. It gets its information from a book, and the author of the book (who doesn't seem to have any notoriety; he doesn't even have the bio page of his own website finished yet) just read a bunch of studies that other people made, and decided that MSG causes autism. While I haven't read the book, I'm highly suspect that this random guy figured out something that scientists can't seem to figure out, and on top of it, that the FDA doesn't know it yet. There's also (according to Amazon) a chapter in his book about "the benefit of a natural zero calorie sweetener and a natural hormone proven to reduce breast and prostate cancer". I think I hear a duck. HelpJazz 20:55, 23 November 2008 (EST)

MSG is still addictive. Chinese restaurants have to say "No MSG" because people are afraid of consuming it.-Foxtrot 21:09, 23 November 2008 (EST)
Can you find a citation for that? The FDA doesn't seem to think so. And people being afraid to consume it doesn't mean anything. See ad populum. HelpJazz 21:21, 23 November 2008 (EST)
(ec)People being afraid of it is not indicative of being addictive. I think what you're talking about is "Chinese restaurant syndrome which is kind of an urban legend [1]. The restaurants say "No MSG" because people are afraid, yes, but that doesn't mean the people who are afraid are informed. Life's a little rough over here right now, so I'm not sure if that really makes much sense. I hope it helps, though. LiamG 21:26, 23 November 2008 (EST)
(edit conflict) I have added two quotes from doctors about MSG while you were writing this comment, I believe. Also, I think you are confused in your edit comment about "regulation and food scares". There is a big difference in liberals unduly calling for bans on trans fats and conservatives calling for regulation of poison and highly addictive drugs in food. Remember that the D in FDA is there for a reason: drugs. Not acceptable in food, in playgrounds or elsewhere. -Foxtrot 21:28, 23 November 2008 (EST)