Conservapedia:Contest5

This is the rough draft of what eventually will be the format for the new point system, please discuss the format and any other concerns regarding the Contest here.

Contest 5 Point System

Things changed from Contest 4's:

Increased the gap between quality and short articles

Normal articles can easily be transformed into quality articles - and thus there should be some more gratification for doing so

Agree. Great suggestion.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Decreased the gap between normal and entertainment anything

Can't say I agree with this. Entertainment entries are rarely educational or informative in any meaningful way. Frankly, most are a waste of time.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

While I agree that many entertainment articles are pointless - I think it's also tough to say that ALL are. Like for example - articles on sports teams are entertainment - but at the same time sports do have a big history, and it's certainly encyclopedic. That being said, an article on Britney Spears' hairstyles would obviously be less significant. Perhaps we should figure out how to distinguish these--IDuan 14:34, 3 February 2008 (EST)

I think the judges should have greater authority to take points away from uninformative entertainment entries.--Aschlafly 14:37, 3 February 2008 (EST)

agreed.--IDuan 14:47, 3 February 2008 (EST)

If someone spends the time to make a quality entertainment article, then they should still get close to the points of a quality regular article

Same comment as above.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Increased the amount of points for a fully copied entry

Only by a bit though - given that you have to go through and wikilink anyway - creating that entry is essentially the same as a minor edit

Agree. We reward improvements here. If well said by someone else and we have rights to copy (as in already paying for it as a government work), then let's use it and reward with points.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Increased the amount of points for a quality edit

It was getting almost the same amount of points as a short entry - when really, based on the description, it involved more work than a short entry

Right.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Increased the amount of points for an image

You could at least two minor edits in the time that you could find one image appropriate to the article you have, and insert that image appropriately

Right.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Increased the amount of points for breaking news

This was only so I could increase the gap between a user who finds a breaking news article, and a sysop who adds that article to the main page

Why do we want to increase that gap? I do agree that quality breaking news should be highly rewarded with points.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

I honestly don't really want to increase the gap - but in the last contest a user complained about the handicap of non-sysops, so I added it for him. But I'd befine if you reverted--IDuan 14:34, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Increased the amount of points for a template

Templates take a lot - they should probably be getting the same amount of points as an ordinary entry, but I thought that doing that would be too drastic of a change.

Don't know. If you say so, it's OK.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Redefined what a template had to have

read:Userboxes don't count

Right.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

General comment: insightful entries should be rewarded more. Although subjective, these contests should create better incentives for the masterpieces, long or short, that deliver particularly good writing, insights, explanations, etc. Perhaps a "masterpiece" category that could be give special attention (and final decision) by judges after self-nomination of the best entries.--Aschlafly 14:28, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Ok! How about this: each team nominates ... about 10 ... of it's best articles, and then the judges pick the top two among those - and those articles will be worth 100 points.--IDuan 14:34, 3 February 2008 (EST)

That's an interesting suggestion! I like it.--Aschlafly 14:37, 3 February 2008 (EST)

Points

New entry

Quality new entry: 20 points

• Definition:A Quality New Entry includes at least two full-length paragraphs, three relevant citations, an emboldened subject, several links to other entries, some in-depth content and designations of category, and is not entirely copied.
• Exception: Entertainment-related* Quality New Entries will receive only 18 points.

Ordinary New Entry: 12 points

• Definition: An Ordinary New Entry is a new entry which does not meet the qualifications for a Quality New Entry, but is of higher quality than a Short New Entry, and is not entirely copied.
• Exception: Entertainment-related* Ordinary New Entries will receive only 10 points.

Short New Entry: 6 points

• Definition: A Short New Entry contains only a few sentences and may or may not have a reference, and is not entirely copied.
• Exception: Entertainment-related Short New Entries will receive only 4 points.

Copied Entries That Add Little Value: 3 point

• Definition: A entry copied from a public domain source such as .gov site - you MUST link to other articles and the article can not be of trivial nature (i.e. non-encyclopedic, non-educational or non-historical)

Masterpiece: 100 points

• Definition: At the end of the contest each user (if they want to) will nominate their best article, and then the judges will pick the top two of all the articles nominated. The winning users will get 100 points for their article.

Existing entry

Quality edit of an existing entry: 8 points

• Definition: A Quality Edit to an existing article includes at least two extra sentences, an additional reference, and the inclusion of an important or relevant fact.
• Exception: Entertainment-related* Quality Edits will receive only 6 points.

Minor Edit of an existing entry: 2 points

• Definition: A Minor Edit is an edit which does not meet the qualifications for a Quality Edit. These edits might include small formatting changes, spelling and grammatical changes and/or the addition of a category.

Images

Adding a quality public domain image to an entry: 4pts (+2 points per article if it's an image you uploaded)

• Beware: Copyright violations will result in harsh penalties!

Templates

New Template: 8 points

• Definition: The template must have at least 4 non-userspace links.

Redirects

Redirecting a Page: 1 point

• Definition: Redirecting any page - whether the page was something different or not. Misspellings don't count.

Breaking News

Breaking News Item: 6 points

• Definition: A Breaking news item is placed on the Main page with wiki links to Conservapedia articles and a link to the external reference article.
• Exception: A non-administrator who submits an article to an administrator and the article is placed on the Main page will receive 5 point and the administrator will receive 6 points for adding the article and links. It is at the administrator's discretion whether to place the article on the Main page.

Bonus Points

• An additional bonus of 3 points is awarded for adding a new entry on the "most-wanted" list, Special:Wantedpages
  • Note carefully: The entry must be on this list
• An additional bonus of 1 point is awarded for adding a link to an entry on the Special:Deadendpages, and thereby removing that entry from that list
• An edit to an existing entry may qualify as a New Entry if the edit is substantial enough (however, mark these pages off so the judges can review).
• Adding a relevant photo to Breaking News will receive a 2 points bonus.
• Blocking a vandal/sock/troll or reverting their vandalism: 2 points.

Notes

An entry is "entertainment-related" if it relates to a subject not taught as core curriculum in a typical high school or college. This includes articles on sports, popular music, movies, and other entertaining but not necessarily educational subjects.

• Exception: Full credit will be given for notable or important historical subjects, and for political entries.
• Exception: Full credit will be given for reasonable subjects which are educational but not necessarily taught in a typical school.
• Exception: If entertainment entries are excessively useless - judges can deduct points