Difference between revisions of "Talk:Germany"

Revision as of 12:25, November 18, 2007

I removed the Lonely Planet map of Germany from this site - it is a copyrighted work posted without permission.

Thank you! I just deleted the image. ~ SharonS ^Talk! 19:16, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

The whole Text was taken from Wikipedia without respecting any aspect of the the GNU-FDL, wich is a copyright violation. --Germany07 05:34, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I deleted the first part of the first sentence in the "War on terror" section because it was not an objectively true statement and was not supported by sources in any way.

Wikipedia started their German article with "History" first, as is here. Most encyclopedic works begin with current government, area of land, education, income, and the like, and leave history for last. I suggest the same thing here. Karajou 19:32, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

I think we can expand the contemporary section, which does and should come first, but after the overall summary, I think history should come next, going up to and including the present moment. Boethius 23:19, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

CIA World Factbook

Information from this source is all PD. It's not ideal but it's a start.

I also tried to upload a map from the same source but got the error "Could not copy file "/tmp/phpxAUb49" to "/home/conserv8/public_html/images/4/4c/Germany_map.gif"."

From - https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/faqs.html

"Can I use some or all of The World Factbook for my Web site (book, research project, homework, etc.)? The World Factbook is in the public domain and may be used freely by anyone at anytime without seeking permission. However, US Code prohibits use of the CIA seal in a manner which implies that the CIA approved, endorsed, or authorized such use. If you have any questions about your intended use, you should consult with legal counsel. As a courtesy, please cite The World Factbook when used."

Adolf Hitler

In the very first version of this article Adolf Hitler was listed under 'Famous Germans'. This caused some confusion. It is right that he was born in Austria, but he applied for German citizenship later, which was granted in February 1932. So should we list him as 'German' or 'Austrian'? My source is the NS-Archive in Germany [1] (German).

Since Hitler is a historical figure as a German (not an Austrian), I reinserted him in the list of notable Germans. --Hojimachong^talk 23:01, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Adolf Hitler was a dictator in Germany and should appear on historical paragraphs on this page only. It will hurt human and religious feelings calling him a famous person! I took him away from the list. Ffrree 14:04, 24 April 2007

(I'm not so much responding to an old post as re-raising a previous point.)

Perhaps the "Famous Germans" section should be retitled "Famous and infamous Germans"?

Philip J. Rayment 07:25, 18 November 2007 (EST)

The Reformation in Germany

This subsection is so long, and so detailed, that it derails a balanced article about Germany. It seems to be a long quote from one of Conservapedia's history lectures, but for that very reason it is not encyclopedic in tone -- it reads like a lecture. I think that a succinct description of these events might be a *part* of the main article, but such a lengthy treatment has the effect of unbalancing the whole entry and making it far less useful for reference purposes. Boethius 22:52, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Feel free to trim as you see fit. I plan on doing some trimming and adding citations in the future. --Hojimachong^talk 23:01, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Thanks, Hoji -- I have put in a relatively brief starter section here, which we can grow on our own. It's adapted from the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (which is PD, and also a source for WP's entry), but I've taken some care to update the phrasing and added a few additional details. Boethius 11:53, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

World War II

WWII is casually dismissed in a sentence and a half... needs some expansion, no? GodlessLiberal 21:17, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

"European power struggles immersed Germany in two devastating World Wars in the first half of the 20th century..."

I agree, apart from anything else, Germany played a rather more active role in the outbreak of World War Two than is implied in the above sentence. Orgone 21:20, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Added a table

This table can be edited to add addtional info as needed, or correct info due to elections, population changes, etc. Karajou 19:25, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

Looks nice! I think this would make a good template. Unless somebody implements it in the next x hours (it's 5.40am and I really should go to bed soon), I could work on it tomorrow. --Sid 3050 23:39, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

Nevermind. Starting to get complicated, I have little time, and my motivation is at a low point right now. I still think we should have a "country-info box" template, though. --Sid 3050 13:40, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

I would think an effort has to be made on the article itself; pics and the table can come later. I'm concentrating on the US Civil War right now, and then I'll detail those pics for it. Karajou 17:32, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Good catch

Sorry about hasty revert. [2] Maybe I should go far a walk now. --Ed Poor 19:51, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

No harm done, just two letters that needed correcting :) --Sid 3050 19:59, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Expansion

This article could do with a lot of work. We could have it so much better, if we tried. I'll attempt some expansion of it at some point. Hans E. Mann 13:34, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

About the famous Germans

As long as they don´t have their own articles I would like to make a classification : writers, artists, sportsmen etc. Would that be ok? Toolsyoucantrust 17:00, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

That would be the best thing. That list is getting long, and will only get longer, perhaps we should think of making an article called "Famous Germans"? Bohdan 17:17, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

Currency

A newly-added section includes this sentence: "From an exchange rate of the Germany current of 3 to the dollar, it eventually fell to over 1 trillion to the dollar."

This doesn't make sense, unless perhaps the German currency was called a "current", which I doubt was the case. It seems that there should be a mention of the deutschmark in there.

Philip J. Rayment 07:22, 18 November 2007 (EST)