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Quakers have always been a minority group everywhere in the world, except Pennsylvania. Therefore, how on earth could there have been enough Quakers in the 13 colonies to affect Continental Army recruitment?? I'll believe it for Pennsylvania, and perhaps Rhode Island, but nowhere else. (After all, they were hanging Quakers in Massachusetts not too many years earlier.) Please give us a citation for that statement.[[User:Leansleft|Leansleft]] 16:47, 10 August 2007 (EDT)
 
Quakers have always been a minority group everywhere in the world, except Pennsylvania. Therefore, how on earth could there have been enough Quakers in the 13 colonies to affect Continental Army recruitment?? I'll believe it for Pennsylvania, and perhaps Rhode Island, but nowhere else. (After all, they were hanging Quakers in Massachusetts not too many years earlier.) Please give us a citation for that statement.[[User:Leansleft|Leansleft]] 16:47, 10 August 2007 (EDT)
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:I'm curious about the paragraph: "Christians should obey ALL state authorities (John 19:10-11; Romans 13:1-7; 1 Timothy 2:1-7; Titus 3:1-2; 1 Peter 2:13-24) because "it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God." (1 Peter 2:19 NIV); hence, it would be sinful to help one government overthrow another government." Isn't it sinful just because it is violence? Does the Bible commend Christians to obey anti-Christian authorities? I would think not, and if the price for disobeying those authorities in refusing to use violence is persecution and imprisonment, that is the price you pay to enter Heaven!! [[User:Pandeism|Pandeism]] 18:07, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

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Quakers have always been a minority group everywhere in the world, except Pennsylvania. Therefore, how on earth could there have been enough Quakers in the 13 colonies to affect Continental Army recruitment?? I'll believe it for Pennsylvania, and perhaps Rhode Island, but nowhere else. (After all, they were hanging Quakers in Massachusetts not too many years earlier.) Please give us a citation for that statement.Leansleft 16:47, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

I'm curious about the paragraph: "Christians should obey ALL state authorities (John 19:10-11; Romans 13:1-7; 1 Timothy 2:1-7; Titus 3:1-2; 1 Peter 2:13-24) because "it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God." (1 Peter 2:19 NIV); hence, it would be sinful to help one government overthrow another government." Isn't it sinful just because it is violence? Does the Bible commend Christians to obey anti-Christian authorities? I would think not, and if the price for disobeying those authorities in refusing to use violence is persecution and imprisonment, that is the price you pay to enter Heaven!! Pandeism 18:07, 10 August 2007 (EDT)