::What about China? China brokered a [[peace]] deal between Saudi Arabia & Iran, and is a major player in the [[Middle East]] now, purchasing Iranian oil. Can't really impose secondary sanctions on China for its [[economic]] support of Iran as Trump just backed-off the [[tariff]] war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 23:32, May 14, 2025 (EDT)
:::If China thinks it can secure a long-term peace between Saudi Arabia & Iran, it's in for disappointment. Their religious differences are a ticking time bomb, which can never be truly defused.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:31, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
::::"Divide and rule" is a concept among leaders, not the general populace. The main point is, China is now an interested party and one of the main players in the Middle East - a big change in China's 3000 year history for the first time, as China now has a [[foreign policy]] outside its traditional borders. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:17, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
::Yes, the [[CARES Act]] certainly was [[inflation]]ary, but piling on $350 billion in aid to the [[corrupt]] [[Zelensky regime]] was throwing gasoline on a fire. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:26, May 16, 2025 (EDT)
:::I agree.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 13:31, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
Following up again in response to [https://nypost.com/2025/05/20/us-news/rubio-warns-syria-weeks-away-from-collapse-and-a-full-scale-civil-war-of-epic-proportions/ Marco Rubio's appearance before the Senate today]. He now says it's '''a priority''' for the US to prop up the al-Qaeda regime in Syria, lest the country descend into another civil war, which could be as little as just weeks away. At this point, I've just about had it. I regret voting for Trump. And if we end up supporting this new regime in any future conflict, I'll be calling for his impeachment. Just as I supported impeaching Obama and Biden before him on the same grounds.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:44, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
I also have this to say about the two countries which are pushing Trump the hardest to do this: Saudi Arabia and Israel. On the former, I've never believed that MBS is a true reformer. I've always believed that he is a stealth fanatic masquerading as a reformer so he could make his country more effective at waging jihad. So I'm not at all surprised that he's pushing Trump to do this. The sooner Iran takes out the Saudi regime, the better. As for Israel, Netanyahu has completely destroyed any goodwill I've ever had for Israel, possibly forever. One thing's for certain, as long as he, Likud, or any similar political movements are in charge, I will never support Israel again. In fact, I'm tempted to start supporting the Palestinians (but not Hamas, as they also support the Syrian regime). I never thought I'd ever reach this point, but here I am.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:53, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
:I have somewhat of a different perspective (which I'm not ready to fully articulate).
:I don't see the [[NATO]] provocations in [[Ukraine]] from 2014 to February 2022 as entirely unrelated to Operation Al-Aqsa Flood. I can bring forward a thesis with historical examples at some point later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:17, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
:For example, in [[Khruschev]]'s memoirs (1970) he describes the events of 1956 - the [[Suez Crisis]] & [[Hungarian Revolution]] - as beginning with Western & Soviet [[diplomat]]s who said to each other, "Look, we have a problem and you have a problem. Maybe together we can resolve both our problems".
:IOWs, while both power blocs are distracted with troubles within their own alliance, neither is able to mount a united front against the other. And this is done by agreement between the two power blocs. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:29, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
One more thing. To hell with the Abraham Accords. Its premise is a lie, it's not about peace but rather (more) war. Specifically, war against Iran and its allies, who at this point have the moral high ground and have had the moral high ground for years. But then again, just about any of our so-called "enemies" (who are actually enemies of the Deep State rather than the American people) at this point have the moral high ground and have had the moral high ground for years.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:01, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
==This is not news==
Trump said he and Putin may have a summit in a few weeks. This means negotiators are scripting the agreements the leaders will ratify at a summit meeting. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 00:47, May 17, 2025 (EDT)
===A more realistic account of the Trump-Putin phone call [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/putin-trump-phone-call-deadend-afu]===
:''Despite both sides drumming up the call’s significance as a good step forward toward normalizing relations, it achieved nothing. The reason: Putin again repeated to Trump that “root causes” of the conflict must be addressed, and shortly after, Zelensky declared in a press conference that Ukraine will never demilitarize and never give up its territories; the impasse stands as before.
:''Trump did decline to order a new round of sanctions on Russia...''
[[User:Conservative]] is still under the delusion that Trump's threats of sanctions, made for domestic consumption, carries some weight or has meaning. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 03:01, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
Trump said he'd end the war in 24 hrs. He didn't.
Trump said he'd end the war in 100 days. He didn't.
Trump said the [[Houthis]] caved. They didn't.
I'll bet $100 [[User:Conservative]] continues to [[naive]]ly fall for whatever Trump says for domestic consumption again and again in [[foreign policy]] (cause [[User:Conservative]] has no discernment). In foreign affairs, like in military conflict, you hold your cards close to your chest, and don't publicize your [[strategy]] in the press. But [[User:Conservative]] hasn't figured that out yet.
{{Cquote|My people perish for lack of knowledge.|||Hosea 4:6}}
When [[User:Conservative]] quotes Trump on these matters, he thinks he's being authoritive. But he's really only adding fuel to the liberal claim that Trump is a [[liar]]. [[User:Conservative]] has no discretion or discernment, and hasn't even figured out that much yet or the [[liberal claptrap]] he [[spam]]s.
It is one thing to fall for a [[liberal]] [[lie]] or [[hoax]] occasionally, but to [[spam]] it (as much as 17 times) to "get back at your enemies" is a [[sin]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 03:25, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
Why ia the Trump-Putin phone call for domestic consumption?
:''[https://www.rt.com/news/617871-trump-putin-phone-call/ Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine will begin ‘immediately’]'':
:Each will submit a separate, written proposal of what they deem necessary for a ceasefire. However, read the fine print: there is no deadline on submitting the proposals. That's why accusations of Putin stalling are [[BS]], cause the stall tactic is a joint agreement between Trump & Putin. Anything Trump, Rubio, Zelensky or the global & US media propaganda apparatus says about Putin "stalling" is [[BS]]. Trump essentially told Putin to go ahead and take [[Odessa]], but please be quick about it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 08:00, May 20, 2025 (EDT)
== 'Please die! It's great for us!' "Pro-palestine" activists tells to Palestinan-Arabs ==
This is so typical. See this Palestinian Arab (Alkhatib) complaining... quoted by Ella [https://x.com/EllaTravelsLove/status/1920899705602453709][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 2312:2421, May 1719, 2025 (EDT) == Climate hysteria is dying == Climate change hysteria peaked in 2021. See "[https://archive.is/4Z37E Climate Change Urgency Has Declined. The Green Transition Hasn’t.]" [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 08:45, May 18, 2025 (EDT):Google Trends doesn't show a peak interest in the USA: [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=climate%20change&date=now%201-d&geo=US&hl=en Climate change - USA]. It's going up and down within a certain range. The same for the world: [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=climate%20change&date=now%201-d&geo=US&hl=en Climate change - worldwide searches]. :The use of the words climate change is going up in its usage in books: [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=%22climate+change%22&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 Frequency of the words "climate change" in books]. :If Trump/GOP are successful in getting more school choice that would be a help to causing "climate change" hysteria to go down in the USA due to less indoctrination. "If successful, the Educational Choice for Children Act (ECCA) will create scholarships parents can use to send their students to private schools, available in all 50 states."[https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5302600-school-vouchers-school-choice-gop-budget-bill/] "Choice laws have now passed in every major Republican state. Congress and President Trump are now aiming at blue states that have resisted vouchers for decades."[https://archive.is/wD7DC#selection-515.0-515.160] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:06, May 18, 2025 (EDT) ::It's the return of Great Power politics and threat of [[nuclear war]] that ends this [[unipolar]] [[climate hoax]] [[brainwash]]ing of youth to justify the continued existence of the [[CIA]], etc. == Pence says Trump should return gift to Qatar == Transcripts.Meet the Press – May 18, 2025Fmr. Vice President Mike Pence, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Andrea Mitchell, Amna Nawaz, Stephen Hayes and Ashley Etienne. May 18, 2025, 11:49 AM EDT.KRISTEN WELKER: This Sunday: out of office. My exclusive interview with former Vice President Mike Pence. FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: I've never been a fan of American presidents criticizing America on foreign soil. KRISTEN WELKER: His thoughts on the second Trump administration and the direction of the Republican Party. FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: There's no question in this administration that he is surrounded, it appears to me, with people that -- that nurtured his more protectionist instincts. KRISTEN WELKER: Plus: trade tensions. President Trump returns from his trip to the Middle East amid new concerns about his trade war, as the world’s largest retailer warns higher prices are on the way. [...] KRISTEN WELKER: Good Sunday morning. President Trump returns to Washington after his trip to the Middle East, and he is touting what he says are new critical investments in the U.S. economy. It comes as his agenda back home is facing new challenges, and as he's planning for direct phone calls with the leaders of Russia and Ukraine on Monday. Against that backdrop, I sat down with his former Vice President Mike Pence on Friday at his home in Indiana. [START TAPE] KRISTEN WELKER: Let me ask you about President Trump's first official overseas trip to the Middle East -- FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: Yeah. KRISTEN WELKER: -- this week, where he met with the newly installed president of Syria. He dropped all of the sanctions against that country despite Israel's opposition. The trip included stops in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, but he did not stop in Israel. Sir, what message do you think President Trump's trip sent to Israel overall? FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: Well, first off, I think it was a very successful trip for the American economy. The president secured financial commitments in all three countries, including a historic contract for purchasing Boeing aircraft that'll really support American jobs. And I don't gainsay that. But, Kristen, I've never been a fan of American presidents criticizing America on foreign soil. And to have the president in Saudi Arabia questioning America's global war on terror, and describing it as nation-building and interventionist, I thought was a disservice to generations of Americans who wore the uniform and who took the fight to our enemy, you know, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And particularly giving that speech in Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers hailed from, not including Osama bin Laden, I thought was unfortunate. KRISTEN WELKER: Yeah. KRISTEN WELKER: -- this week, where he met with the newly installed president of Syria. He dropped all of the sanctions against that country despite Israel's opposition. The trip included stops in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, but he did not stop in Israel. Sir, what message do you think President Trump's trip sent to Israel overall? FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: Well, first off, I think it was a very successful trip for the American economy. The president secured financial commitments in all three countries, including a historic contract for purchasing Boeing aircraft that'll really support American jobs. And I don't gainsay that. But, Kristen, I've never been a fan of American presidents criticizing America on foreign soil. And to have the president in Saudi Arabia questioning America's global war on terror, and describing it as nation-building and interventionist, I thought was a disservice to generations of Americans who wore the uniform and who took the fight to our enemy, you know, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And particularly giving that speech in Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers hailed from, not including Osama bin Laden, I thought was unfortunate. KRISTEN WELKER: Let me ask you about another aspect of President Trump's trip. He said that he was going to accept a $400 million luxury jet from Qatar to use as a temporary Air Force One. He said he'll eventually donate that to his presidential library. Do you think President Trump should accept a military aircraft from Qatar? FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: Well, I think first we've got to remember who Qatar is. We've got a military base there. I have members of our immediate family that have deployed to the region. But Qatar has a long history of playing both sides. They support Hamas. They supported Al Qaeda. Qatar has actually financed pro-Hamas protests on American campuses across the United States. So, the very idea that we would accept an Air Force One from Qatar I think is inconsistent with our security, with our intelligence needs. And my hope is the president reconsiders it. I think if Qatar wants to make a gift to the United States, they ought to take that $400 million and plow it into infrastructure on our military base. KRISTEN WELKER: So you're saying President Trump should turn down this plane? FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE: I think he should. I think -- look, others have observed or there are profound issues, the potential for intelligence gathering, the need to ensure the president of the United States is safe and secure as he travels around the world and of course also there are very real constitutional issues. The Constitution prohibits public officials from accepting a present, in the words of the Constitution, a present from a foreign state. Now they may have some basis through chain of title for avoiding that, but I think it's just a bad idea, and my hope is the president will think better of it.[https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-may-18-2025-n1312151 NBC].:Pence is a loser. Trump [https://youtu.be/8JOULysjmlM?si=BAQ_nX4naUA0oENx&t=864 says the plane from Qater is being given to the U.S. Air Force - not him]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])::NBC 's Welker didn't bother to mention that...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 12:20, May 19, 2025 (EDT):::*[https://gentgoldstein.substack.com/p/trump-sends-abc-news-stern-warning#: Trump Sends ABC News Stern Warning Over their Qatar Jet Coverage!] Trump slams [[ABC News]] for falsely claiming Qatar gifted him a jet, clarifying it’s for the U.S. military, not personal...::::Does anybody actually still watch or get their information from ''[[Press the Meat]]''? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 15:04, May 19, 2025 (EDT):::::After CBS saga, they might get scared.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 19:44, May 20, 2025 (EDT)::::::How Welker survived [[Vivek]] with her [[crap ]]-[https://www.politico.com/video/2023/11/08/ramaswamy-goes-off-on-debate-host-kristen-welker-1129538 eating grin] is anybody's guess. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:55, May 20, 2025 (EDT) == What and when did they know about Biden's health? ==[[File:Joe Biden talking to a little girl while holding an ice cream cone.jpg|thumbnail|201px|right|[[Joe Biden]] is well-known for eating ice cream frequently. ]]Another article by the great writer [[Daniel Greenfield]]. [https://www.frontpagemag.com/what-did-they-know-about-bidens-health-and-when-did-they-know-it/][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 14:03, May 19, 2025 (EDT):He was a big eater of vanilla ice cream. Not good! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:32, May 20, 2025 (EDT)::True. Especially at his age.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 19:44, May 20, 2025 (EDT):::Old people eat ice cream as a laxative, [https://people.com/food/nancy-pelosi-eats-chocolate-ice-cream-for-breakfast-a-great-way-to-start-the-day/ which explains much]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:59, May 20, 2025 (EDT) == How news are 'MADE', literally == [https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/un-gaza-starvation-claim-retracted JFeed]:Too late, lie already spread.UN walks back wild Gaza starvation claim: 14,000 children not at immediate risk.After the UN Humanitarian Chief Tom Fletcher claimed 14,000 Gazan children are set to starve to death in the next 48 hours without aid, the numbers were revealed to be without foundation.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) 19:46, May 20, 2025 (EDT)